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well i did see the entire and tragically cut short get backers series. and it was pretty cool and was more important to the character and story. But it didn't inflcit any mental damage or have a physical effect on its victim. So to be fair, i'll wait till i see the one in the naruto anime to decide on which is cooler. and also it's what made midou ban such a bad ass.
Get Backers is cool in it's own way, I prefer Naruto .. but there's no denying that Mange Sharingan is a complete and total ripoff of Evil Eye. It would be just as cheesy as if the next big anime suddenly had someone doing Shikamaru's shadow-bind, only in a cheap copy of it.
Edit : Yeah, sucked that Get Backers got cut short the way it did, the ending was horrible, and the whole 'Infinite Castle' stuff was pretty cheesy overall. The best thing about the series was Midou Ban (Badass!), Chibi Ginji (Rofl!), and Dr. Jackal .. (kind of similar to Kimimaro, now that I think about it .. only he pulls blades from inside his body instead of bones..)
holy crap. never thought of dr. jackal and kimimaro. interesting similarities. same sort of look too. hhumm? But naruto is definetly better. So people let me know about the whole oro and blood thing and how is it he would use the blood limit of the bodies that he takes over.
I think the only reasonable explanation is that he just pulls the contract out and adds the newly aquired blood to it .. that way he could (A) - Keep his summons, and (B) - Take advantage of bloodline abilities of his newly aquired body
maybe kishimoto ( i think thats his name ) wasn't even thinking about it XP. It might just be something that shouldn't be discussed.
however, if he was.... Oro's blood may just stay the same even if he does a body transfer. All blood is probably the same and the person's "soul" is what makes it individual. So when Oro's soul is transfered into a new body, the blood becomes identified as his.
what i'd like to know....is how come naruto doesnt need a tattoo or scroll or anything to smear the blood on for the summon? oro's got that arm tattoo, and i think jiraiya has a small one on his palm as well, and kakashi had to use a scroll (although he didnt for pakkun, for some reason).....so whats up with that?
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Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
what i'd like to know....is how come naruto doesnt need a tattoo or scroll or anything to smear the blood on for the summon? oro's got that arm tattoo, and i think jiraiya has a small one on his palm as well, and kakashi had to use a scroll (although he didnt for pakkun, for some reason).....so whats up with that?
Well, with Kakashi, he summoned like half a dozen dogs, and big ones, too.
Pakkun seems to be pretty much the runt of the litter, so he's not very demanding. Even so, because he isn't a fighting dog.
Dunno, maybe Naruto is to young to get a tattoo, or we didn't see him get tattooed.
Can't find any rational explanation, as you must have noticed by now.
I just stand by my theory that if you give blood from sacrifices, you don't need to give your own. That's what makes more sense since Oro changes bodies.
ah but is it considered a sacrifice of blood if the blood is already out of your body? i'm sure the blood running down naruto's lip was not going to be of any value to him anymore.....and if it sounds like im being picky about the idea, well i have to be if the summons themselves are supposed to emphasize the point of sacrifice as the base for summoning
maybe kakashi's scroll thing had nothing to do with summoning. Maybe it was just done so that it could help him do something else. Like maybe look cool in front of Sakura. Hahaha. Most likely none of this actually has anything to do with summoning except the blood cuz Naruto can summon just fine without any of that stuff.
when i saw kakashi use his blood on the scroll during that bridge fight, my thought used to be that he provided his blood for the tracking dogs to figure out what odor to sniff out for finding zabuza...which WAS the point in him getting nailed by zabuza's weapons, after all
Jeesssh! Naruto was being crushed by the desert coffin (hope I named the jutsu right) so the blood that was/had been flowing from his mouth was from that...which is a sacrifce in a sense. Especially, because he was sacrificing his life for Sakura... well, summoning Sakura wouldn't help much.Quote:
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
ah but is it considered a sacrifice of blood if the blood is already out of your body? i'm sure the blood running down naruto's lip was not going to be of any value to him anymore.....and if it sounds like im being picky about the idea, well i have to be if the summons themselves are supposed to emphasize the point of sacrifice as the base for summoning
Anyhow, maybe Gamakichi helped out cause Naruto save his life.
Gama-Bunta seems to be a supporting father, he really got mad when the kid told he had been bullied, so I can assume that Gamakichi saw Naruto summoning Gama-bunta and decided to help the summoning.
Edit: I just remembered that in the end of the second chunnin exam, they summoned Iruka, and didn't need any blood at all. Maybe with humans is different...
Huh, maybe if you put more chacra into it you need less blood... Kishimoto has lots of explaining to do...
As long as it's fresh blood, I think it counts as a blood sacrifice.
Off-topic: Memnoch/hornetmike, I agree Getbackers isn't as good as Naruto, but it has a lot of cool characters
Hell yeah! GB is one of my faves [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Along with CB, Hellsing, Azumanga Daioh (love Hotsuma's Osaka Avatar!) .. I guess I like lots of anime .. but Naruto is my fave right now [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: KonohamaruCorps
As long as it's fresh blood, I think it counts as a blood sacrifice.
Off-topic: Memnoch/hornetmike, I agree Getbackers isn't as good as Naruto, but it has a lot of cool characters
Agree on the Oro/Blood thing
true, how can kishimoto get into blinding detail about the way shino's bugs blocked zaku's air cutter move, while leaving important things vague like summoning jutsus
getbackers is interesting.....but the way the fight scenes are arranged (especially in that infinite castle thing) are a bit too contrived imo
He has to explain why Shino's bugs didn't do Kankuro for one. Considering their number, I wonder if they would have left any chakra at all. But I digress.Quote:
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
true, how can kishimoto get into blinding detail about the way shino's bugs blocked zaku's air cutter move, while leaving important things vague like summoning jutsus
getbackers is interesting.....but the way the fight scenes are arranged (especially in that infinite castle thing) are a bit too contrived imo
Damn, I gotta check which forum I am before posting. Mendo kusai, ne?As Shikamaru would say.
Kishimoto probably just never thought to go into extra detail about it.
Some of the GB fights weren't great, but the characters is what made the show good. I'm suprised there wasn't more talk about GB when they had the thread in General Anime a while ago. Hellsing has a lot of style also, Alucard was cool.
There used to be a GB section before the show ended.
Do we know for sure that Manda actually has a scroll to sign? Do all summons have one? Or is it just a Gammabunta thing? Maybe Oro doesn't have to sign anything, and he can summon him no matter what body he's in. Just a thought, I'm probably totally wrong.
Well if oro doesn't use a contract or need one. wouldn't that mean anyone can summon manda. It seems to me that the sand ninjas needed a scroll in order to summon. and look at how many of them it took to do so. it seems those scroll were given to them as some sort of permission thing IMO. I just don't know. But yes kishimoto has a lot of explaining to do. too many things left unsaid.
Yeah, if I'm right (which I admit is very unlikely) then technically anyone could summon Manda, but nobody would because a) it takes an abnormal amount of chakra and b) Manda seems to want to eat everyone who summons him, even Oro.
So because of his strength and skill, Oro is probably the only one who can effectively summon him and survive.
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Originally posted by: sangai sakusei
he just re signs the contract and gives a new print.
This is most likely the correct explanation.