Naruto Chapter 505

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Originally Posted by animus

Naruto's form is like some Spirit Oni form or something? Reminds me of something, but I can't recall.

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The shroud looks like the Sage of the Six Paths. The shroud even wears the same necklace and gives Naruto horns, like the Sage had.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_of_the_Six_Paths
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._Six_Paths.png

So I really don't think Sage Mode is redundant. He was in Sage Mode when he "captured" the Kyuubi. I think this form is Kyuubi + Sage Mode. And it makes him closer to the original Sage of the Six Paths than anyone, except maybe Pein.

I was just talking about the 4th Hokage passing his legacy move to Naruto and it actually happened! Now I know, his time spent with his Mom and Dad wasn't just lovey dovey.

I wonder whether Naruto's teleport technique results in him splicing his legs or other body parts.

Anyhow, I already thought of the upgrade to his teleport technique.
Oodama shunshin kage bunshin no jutsu. Using his speed and teleport, he manifest himself like multiple clones to fight his enemy.

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Originally Posted by poopdeville

The shroud looks like the Sage of the Six Paths. The shroud even wears the same necklace and gives Naruto horns, like the Sage had.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_of_the_Six_Paths
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._Six_Paths.png

So I really don't think Sage Mode is redundant. He was in Sage Mode when he "captured" the Kyuubi. I think this form is Kyuubi + Sage Mode. And it makes him closer to the original Sage of the Six Paths than anyone, except maybe Pein.

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I was just about to bring that up. His new chakra shroud looks awfully like the Sage of the Six paths. I am actually satisfied with no explanation for now.

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Originally Posted by Sidnne

Its most likely that Naruto is using the Flying Thunder God technique and not just moving super fast. I'm sure some kind of explanation will come as to why he can do it without seals...

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thunder god uses seals, so if he's not using seals, it's not really the same technique anymore. (I only mean we shouldn't call it the same thing, but at the same time, I still think he's just moving faster)

i only assume that because naruto is of the senju clan, and nine tails is awfully close to ten tails, that's why he looks like that.

An Akatsuki member is gonna die in a gag fight basically! I hope it's good!

Seeing this power-up, I can't help but think that Sage mode should have been Naruto's power-up for the start of shippuuden, but toned down from what it was when he fought Pain. I can't help but feel that the power-ups are too frequent, however cool they may be! That new cloak looks pretty sick though.

Off topic: Is the internet playing a joke on me, or is the 2nd Hokage's name really Tobirama Senju? Oh god Kishi no...

This "power up" should be factored in since the battle with Haku(the mirror guy with a bloodline tech) It is just that Naruto didnt master and have control over it.(resulting in incremental tail manifestation and lost of consciousness) Now it is legitimized and some additional tech added.(albeit less flare in training compared to Sage training.-just imho)

So why does Naruto have this form and not the other Jinchuuriki like the Eight-Tails? Is it just because it's the Nine Tails?

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Originally Posted by animus

So why does Naruto have this form and not the other Jinchuuriki like the Eight-Tails? Is it just because it's the Nine Tails?

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The kyuubi was always a bit special

Posted before refreshing but whatever I'll throw my two cents into the pile anyway. I didn't see Naruto ever touch Kisame to plant an anchor tag so I wouldn't call it Flying Thunder God Technique. If what he did was an actual technique instead of pure Kyubii enhanced speed it is even more awesome/broken than the Fourth's version. Maybe Infinite Sky God Technique would be a better name.

That much speed and power are broken enough without adding teleportation to the mix

Makes you wonder, Sage Kyuubi mode should be quite something at this point. Sasuke is gonna have to pull 3 or 4 Susanoo's out of his ass if he even wants to stand a chance against the new and improved naruto

He'll probably do just that.

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Originally Posted by Tofu #2

i only assume that because naruto is of the senju clan, and nine tails is awfully close to ten tails, that's why he looks like that.

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That is what I assume as well. The nine-tails is the closest thing to the ten-tails, so Naruto is probably the closest thing to the Sage of Six Paths.

Also, wasn't it said that the Sages power branched out two ways which eventually became the Senju and Uchiha clan? If Mito Uzumaki married into the Senju clan that means that Naruto has some Senju blood in him. Naruto is probably the first Jinchuriki to have a demon's power under control and have Senju or Uchiha blood.

Senju blood + 9-tails + controlling the 9-tails = closest thing to the Sage of Six Paths??

*I apologize if I am completely wrong about the Senju / Uchiha clan being descendants. I was too lazy to look it up to see if I remembered correctly.

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Originally Posted by Yukimura

Posted before refreshing but whatever I'll throw my two cents into the pile anyway. I didn't see Naruto ever touch Kisame to plant an anchor tag so I wouldn't call it Flying Thunder God Technique. If what he did was an actual technique instead of pure Kyubii enhanced speed it is even more awesome/broken than the Fourth's version. Maybe Infinite Sky God Technique would be a better name.

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It isn't more broken at all, in fact it's weaker. Minato can teleport wherever the seal is, he doesn't have to direct himself to someplace. He also knows when the seal is in motion, which is how he saved Kakashi. Minato's version is just so much more versatile.

So does it make a difference that Naruto only got half of the Kyubi's power? Minato admitted to sealing half with him and half with Naruto. Do you think that power came back or is the Nine Tails half the beast he used to be? And if that is the case, aren't the other Bijuu's stronger at this point?

Interesting point. I think it would be lame if Kyuubi's power came back, would seem then that Minato's sacrifice was for nothing. I doubt it has come back, as Kyuubi is sealed in Naruto so unless he is regenerating his chakra there isn't a way for his other half of chakra to get in. If that could get in, then the half in Naruto should be able to get out (which would make the seal more of a valve than a lock).

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Originally Posted by FireEmblem

Off topic: Is the internet playing a joke on me, or is the 2nd Hokage's name really Tobirama Senju? Oh god Kishi no...

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Never thought about that...hmm, and he is a master of Time Space Jutsu *fanning troll flames

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Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil

So does it make a difference that Naruto only got half of the Kyubi's power? Minato admitted to sealing half with him and half with Naruto. Do you think that power came back or is the Nine Tails half the beast he used to be? And if that is the case, aren't the other Bijuu's stronger at this point?

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Originally Posted by DB_Hunter

Interesting point. I think it would be lame if Kyuubi's power came back, would seem then that Minato's sacrifice was for nothing. I doubt it has come back, as Kyuubi is sealed in Naruto so unless he is regenerating his chakra there isn't a way for his other half of chakra to get in. If that could get in, then the half in Naruto should be able to get out (which would make the seal more of a valve than a lock).

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I'm guessing it has to do with the properties of yin and yang which have been mentioned but are cunningly yet to be explained

Though i prefer Kishimoto's method of playing it safe than Kubo's of retconing shit every 5 chapters

I'll speculate here on why Naruto has the same form when he draws on kyuubi chakra now that he had when he summoned the fox's power while in sage mode. During that chakra tug of war, Naruto was infused with nature energy, so it's conceivable that the kyubi chakra that Naruto extracted during the tug of war mixed with the nature energy within him, and the seal locked away that mixture of chakra instead of just the fox's. If this is true, I'd bet there's a limit to how many times, or how much demon chakra Naruto can draw upon and still take on that form, because I don't think he had as much natural energy in him as the demon had chakra to tug away.

edit: This might actually make a pretty decent way to gather sage energy. Before battle, infuse the demon chakra with nature energy. Then all he has to do is access the demon chakra. This is way less awkward than the method he developed before, and it's also more powerful.

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Originally Posted by darkshadow

It isn't more broken at all, in fact it's weaker. Minato can teleport wherever the seal is, he doesn't have to direct himself to someplace. He also knows when the seal is in motion, which is how he saved Kakashi. Minato's version is just so much more versatile.

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What do you mean by "direct himself to someplace"? I might agree (though it'd be arguable) that teleportation using the seal is more versatile if it existed as a technique in a vacuum, but Naruto has a couple of other powers such as sensing both chakra and negative emotions. With those abilities, Naruto's better off with a teleportation technique that doesn't require a seal.

Plus, using Minato's teleportation in combat, on the fly, requires throwing a seal to the intended destination, or some kind of deceptive/hidden tactic to place the seal for use at a later point in the fight. Considering that a projectile can be deflected, and that there's both mental and overhead of execution for deceptive/hidden tactics, use of the technique can be made to lack spontaneity. No setup required teleportation = more spontaneous teleportation.

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Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles

I'll speculate here on why Naruto has the same form when he draws on kyuubi chakra now that he had when he summoned the fox's power while in sage mode. During that chakra tug of war, Naruto was infused with nature energy, so it's conceivable that the kyubi chakra that Naruto extracted during the tug of war mixed with the nature energy within him, and the seal locked away that mixture of chakra instead of just the fox's. If this is true, I'd bet there's a limit to how many times, or how much demon chakra Naruto can draw upon and still take on that form, because I don't think he had as much natural energy in him as the demon had chakra to tug away.

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Also one could infer that now that Naruto has control over the Kyubi maybe now the Older frogs can fuse with him. Before when they tried they showed the Nine Tails "rawring" at them, but now that he is in check I wonder if it is possible.

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Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil

Also one could infer that now that Naruto has control over the Kyubi maybe now the Older frogs can fuse with him. Before when they tried they showed the Nine Tails "rawring" at them, but now that he is in check I wonder if it is possible.

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The kyuubi isn't in check, it's just that by separating the evil intentions from its chakra Naruto can use it without losing control

Though maybe Naruto can use his newfound powers to increase the strength of the seal... who knows?