Naruto Chapter 432

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Fri, 01-23-2009, 10:31 AM
Paper

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Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil

Good call, I couldnt remember if I had seen that or not before.

I still want to see Gaara step in and help...

If anybody is going to step in the fight the most likely squad will be Guy's team. Since the fight with Pein, Tenten, Neji, Rocklee and Guy have been training in the woods since the time of Pein onslaught; they were heading to the village a couple of chapters ago, since Guy saw the birds flocking away from the village he assumed something had happen in the midst of training.

(Most likely since the team is at full strength and it will be good opportunity to see Neji and Lee growth.....eh... and Ten Ten too).
Fri, 01-23-2009, 11:12 AM
Assertn

The whole "fuck teamwork" motto has already started back when Naruto fought Kakuzu. I was thinking the same thing about how it contradicts the whole series up till now, but technically Naruto's not fighting Pein alone - he's actually been pulling off some good teamwork with the three giant frogs and the elders.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 11:24 AM
Paper

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Originally Posted by Assertn

The whole "fuck teamwork" motto has already started back when Naruto fought Kakuzu. I was thinking the same thing about how it contradicts the whole series up till now, but technically Naruto's not fighting Pein alone - he's actually been pulling off some good teamwork with the three giant frogs and the elders.

Now thinking about the Kakuzu fight, your right it seems kishi is trying to do what he should've done along time ago which is molding Naruto into a worthy ninja making the fight one on one.

Just thinking about Naruto "sudden" powerup leads me to believe that he can actually withstand a fight with Sasuke and his powerups as well, either way it has to lead to that direction.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 12:30 PM
Pandadice

aw dang did i pick a gret time to start reading the manga. only caught up to it a couple days ago, and i'm glad i did. this chapter was amazing!
Fri, 01-23-2009, 12:41 PM
joker-kun

Thought there was only two Pein's left? Why are people saying four?
Fri, 01-23-2009, 12:41 PM
FireEmblem

The Rasenshuriken did cut the Shang Tsung Pain. When it magically expanded, the blades of the jutsu shredded him apart. I don't see how that jutsu is not impressive to people.

Also I always assumed that the reason Naruto got hurt with the Rasenshuriken the first time he did it, was because he had to be at ground zero when it impacted. I don't think that just handling the jutsu is what causes harm, but the split second where Naruto is actually at the zone of impact before he pulls away is where the danger lies. Since he can throw it now, it should be fine.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 12:48 PM
Munsu

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Originally Posted by FireEmblem

The Rasenshuriken did cut the Shang Tsung Pain. When it magically expanded, the blades of the jutsu shredded him apart. I don't see how that jutsu is not impressive to people.

Also I always assumed that the reason Naruto got hurt with the Rasenshuriken the first time he did it, was because he had to be at ground zero when it impacted. I don't think that just handling the jutsu is what causes harm, but the split second where Naruto is actually at the zone of impact before he pulls away is where the danger lies. Since he can throw it now, it should be fine.

Because people always have to find something to complain about. It's inscribed in our human nature.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 01:00 PM
Sidnne

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Originally Posted by Assertn

but technically Naruto's not fighting Pein alone - he's actually been pulling off some good teamwork with the three giant frogs and the elders.

Right. The teamwork with the frogs has been my favorite part of this fight so far. I'm impressed by the way they seem to work together seamlessly and are all on the same page without very much verbal communication.

Also, I don't get why people are so annoyed about the teamwork thing. Yes, teamwork was emphasized early on in the manga, but a common theme in most manga (including this one) is that the weaker characters tend to stay back when a strong character is fighting a strong enemy so that the strong character can go all out.
Remember that Kishi was a huge DBZ fan and we see many similarities between the two manga; this is no different. Just about every time Goku fought, everyone else stayed back to let him fight so they weren't in his way, he didn't have to worry about protecting them, and he could use his full power without any of them getting hurt. Same situation here, as Naruto himself stated two chapters ago.

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Originally Posted by joker-kun

Thought there was only two Pein's left? Why are people saying four?

Yes, there are only two left. I can understand if people said three, because it was difficult so see what happened to the one who got caught up in the rasen-shuriken. But, it appeared he turned in a bird-creature and died? Perhaps that was its original form?
Fri, 01-23-2009, 01:08 PM
Abdula

I'm curious, why do you guys keep saying Naruto defeated X bodies and there are only X left. What makes you guys think they won't just get back up? I mean after Jiraiya I thought you guys would know better but then you guys said the same thing about Kakashi but that one got back up too and I see no reason why they won't recover here, especially considering how calm Pain is. Naruto can waste his charka doing whatever the hell he wants until I see otherwise I think its all for naught.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 01:16 PM
Death BOO Z

goddammit, can we please stop with the dragon ball z comparisons? holy jews, some people don't know when to let go of an old story.

I'm not surprised that Shikamaru and the rest of the village don't go rushing in to the fight, but the actual dialog was off-tune. it gave off the impression that Naruto is now on a different level and can no longer be bothered with people who are not magical like him.

I agree on the frog business, though, I think that this jutsu is the least developed jutsu naruto has. and this is the jutsu that should most connect him with jiraya's legacy. I hope that in the future, naruto's base jutsu, along with the kage bunshin, will be the frog summoning and not the rasengan.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 01:27 PM
Archangel

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Originally Posted by Abdula

I'm curious, why do you guys keep saying Naruto defeated X bodies and there are only X left. What makes you guys think they won't just get back up? I mean after Jiraiya I thought you guys would know better but then you guys said the same thing about Kakashi but that one got back up too and I see no reason why they won't recover here, especially considering how calm Pain is. Naruto can waste his charka doing whatever the hell he wants until I see otherwise I think its all for naught.

I think you're giving Pain a bit too much credit of you believe he's even capable of regenerating his lost bodies during battle.

As for Pain being calm, why wouldn't he be. Worst case scenario, he loses all his bodies and learns every single jutsu naruto is capable of. Next step, get a couple more bodies and absolutely destroy him in their next meeting.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 01:30 PM
Abdula

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Originally Posted by Archangel

As for Pain being calm, why wouldn't he be. Worst case scenario, he loses all his bodies and learns every single jutsu naruto is capable of. Next step, get a couple more bodies and absolutely destroy him in their next meeting.

Yes that is my point, although I really don't see it happening, even if Naruto manages to defeat all six Pains its still for nothing.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 01:34 PM
Archangel

Well it did take him some time to get 1 body back, so getting all of them online should take a while.

If they're smart they'll figure out his secret and attack the rain country before he has the chance to recover.

We'll know Pain's done for when we get the flashbacks of his painful teenage years, why his friend died, why he became a raving psychopath yada yada yada...
Fri, 01-23-2009, 02:51 PM
Dansetsu

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Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil

Well now we know that Naruto was up at night working on the Rasenshuriken. I am just curious to know how he got around to it not tearing up his arm. He must be using the Sage Chakra somehow to protect himself.

Yeah and an infant could have predicted that he was working on that. That's whats lame. It's just a more nukier version of his old one. I'm sorry that I'm being a douche about Naruto's moves, but this is Kishis fault for waiting so goddamn long to make him decently strong. He made him mess up and bumble through everything up until Jiraiya got a hold of him and that wasn't even that long ago. So he hasn't been that strong. Now all of a sudden with the help of some frogs we're supposed to believe that he's decent? They aren't even ninjas for gods sake. They're fucking frogs.

And I think I'm much more shallow than you guys. Because I think the main problem I have is that Naruto is dressed so weirdly and gay. I mean a flaming coat and capri's? Give me a break. Give the kid some decent ninja threads. Honestly, as stupid and shallow as it sounds I know, that's why I like Pain and the akatsuki more. Kishi designed them so well that I really don't think about anything else but the coat and battle outfit. I mean even if the rasengan was used by one of Pains bodies, I would actually think it looks cool. I'll give into the rasengan band wagon, because it is strong. I don't know why I just don't like Naruto or the way he looks.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 03:43 PM
Paper

I got neg rep just because I stated facts :rolleyes: anyways moving along, I wonder when they are going to give Naruto the scroll Jiraiya had for him.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 03:50 PM
Sidnne

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Originally Posted by Death BOO Z

goddammit, can we please stop with the dragon ball z comparisons? holy jews, some people don't know when to let go of an old story.

Boo-fucking-hoo. The similarities are there, so they are going to get mentioned whether you like or not. God forbid reference to another manga be made. Some people need to chill and not cry like a bloodied vagina every time something they don't like is mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Abdula

I'm curious, why do you guys keep saying Naruto defeated X bodies and there are only X left. What makes you guys think they won't just get back up?

Yes, its very possible that they will get back up; we have seen it before. But, at the present time, there are only two bodies left standing and currently in the battle.
Again, it is possible the other bodies will rejoin the fight, but I don't believe they will. I get the feeling Kishi used the other bodies as a way of demonstrating the sage power and Naruto's development, which people have been longing for for quite some time. It is set up perfectly now for an epic battle between Pein and Naruto with only 2 of Pein's bodies still fighting and with Naruto out of sage chakra.
If the other bodies joined the fight at this point, then Naruto is toast, because who is going to be able to help him? Plus, I think I recall Pein saying something about the god realm not being able to resurrect the bodies again just yet? I think he said that after Naruto destroyed the first one a few chapters ago, but I could be mistaken about that.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 04:10 PM
poopdeville

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Originally Posted by paper mache

It was explain http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/15/, when using sage technique the user gets alot stronger thus making them recover at a faster rate and the fact that Naruto already heals at a faster rate because of the Kyuubi makes him withstand the after math of the rasenshuriken.

That's not much of an answer. Tsunade said that rapid cycles of damage and healing would quickly kill him. He has to prevent the damage in the first place.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 04:11 PM
Munsu

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Boo-fucking-hoo. The similarities are there, so they are going to get mentioned whether you like or not. God forbid reference to another manga be made. Some people need to chill and not cry like a bloodied vagina every time something they don't like is mentioned.

http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?p=203034
DBZ references
Fucking stop it, you morons! I'm sick and tired of hearing about how many similarities you found on each episode. Nobody cares and everyone knows that Toriyama is Kishimoto's idol.

-Thanks.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 07:09 PM
Uchiha Barles

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Originally Posted by Dansetsu

Yeah and an infant could have predicted that he was working on that. That's whats lame. It's just a more nukier version of his old one. I'm sorry that I'm being a douche about Naruto's moves, but this is Kishis fault for waiting so goddamn long to make him decently strong. He made him mess up and bumble through everything up until Jiraiya got a hold of him and that wasn't even that long ago. So he hasn't been that strong. Now all of a sudden with the help of some frogs we're supposed to believe that he's decent? They aren't even ninjas for gods sake. They're fucking frogs.

Naruto's been decently strong for a long time. His opponents post time skip were Orochimaru, Itachi, Deidara, Kakuzu, and now Pain. All of these guys are either current or former Akatsuki members, essentially the best ninjas this story has to offer. You'll have to excuse Naruto not being able to walk all over them. You'll also have to excuse the fact that he wasn't presented with a whole bunch of nobody ninjas to single handedly slay and maim like, say Sasuke or team Kakuzu got, to establish his badassedness.
Fri, 01-23-2009, 07:34 PM
UChessmaster

As for the episode, while Naruto fought well, i found it strange how the summon suddenly had trouble with pain`s summonings when they seemed to manage just fine seconds ago, can`t wait to see what will happen to the other 2 Pains.

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