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Susano is some kind of Tengu etheral being with the legedary sword of -instakill-? someone cares to explain, or are we going to stick with Shaman king jokes?
wasn't Oro's death supposed to be a turnpoint of the series?
I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi instead of finishing Sasuke v Itachi decided to start the other fights just to show us the real conclusion of SvI after each and every other fight ends...
looks like Oro ended up as meat shield and source for new intel of Sasuke....
So Kishi just basically retold the story of how Susanoo defeated Yamata no orochi. I'm glad though we finally get to see Itachi pull some elitist crap we all know he had up his sleeve. I've been waiting for awhile for this. So we get to see Itachi show his real strength and even my guy Orochimaru made a nice cameo.:)
Yeah we talked about how Kishi is making Naruto and Sasuke complete copies of eachother already and Yamata no orochi did have eight heads but no, Orochimaru is not a bijuu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidnne
Wait did you miss the whole year of Sasuke thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by RyougaZell
Actually.....I think the reason for oro to appear like that was because there really was no other worthy candidate to demonstrate the true power of susano. We've already had dramatic opportunities for Itachi to utilize his other two powers, but to reveal his ultimate one on an opponent who's just....lying there....would be a huge waste.
Yeah getting rid of the immortal Orochimaru that even the Akatsuki fear so easily really is something, although he will probably be back. I wonder how Kishi intends to explain away Sasuke defeating or escaping from this one cause I'm sure he will.
Is Sasuke due for another power up?Quote:
Yamata no Orochi awaits a genius of the Yagami clan, which is the arch enemy of the Kusanagi clan. The purpose is to awake it [Yamata no Orochi], in order to fight Kyuubi again.
Since Yamata no Orochi’s power inherits in the Yagami Clan, If the heir appears as the first genius in 1000 years that is able to awake Yamata no Orochi’s ability, it will be completely restored. Once the process is done, the genius with such crucial task will be destroyed due to the true body of Yamata no Orochi resurfacing, which has an all-new power. It won’t be found before the decisive battle with Kyuubi, and will be able to kill no matter of thing, destroy any type of place, and attain infinite vision (as Kyuubi has). The core of Yamata no Orochi’s power is in a kind of forbidden sealing jutsu. As soon as the Yagami clan heir comprehends enough of it, a bigger, much stronger power will surface in the grasp of Yamata no Orochi.
lol Itachi finally pulled out an awesome move. I thought this chapter was great, Oro getting disposed of like trash really showed the power of Susanoo. But I don't think the insta kill is actually part of Susanoo. Remember, Zetsu was saying Itachi used the legendary sword which Oro was looking for. So that means that the sword is not something that is part of the Susanoo jutsu, and I think we are still yet to see the real power of this technique. I suspect its the summoning of some sort of ethereal beast which is the Mangekyou Sharingan's taijutsu technique, much like how Tsuykomi and Amaterasu are its Genjutsu and Ninjutsu techniques. Its probably some sort of legendary fighter who has been given an uber power up by Itachi because he also had that legendary sword.
But yeah, I think Oro will be back in the form of Kabutoro. I don't think however he will be as powerful as either the original Oro or the version we just saw get owned. Afterall, Kabuto only merged himself with the defeated host body of Oro. The essence of Oro got abosrbed by Sasuke and has now been sealed by Itachi.
Edit: And I love the way Itachi just looks more pissed than anything else when Oro starts making his speech, and then just stabs him to shut him up.
Well if you think about it Kabuto and Sasuke reuniting could release Oro ,body and soul reuniting, and cause him to evolve into an even more powerful form which would go along with what I posted above.
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Originally Posted by Abdula
Not sure what you meant dude... but... for the first time in weeks I did not forget to download the weekly chapter of Naruto until 4 days later (must be because I was looking for One Piece and found Naruto) and I am actually behind 2 or 3 eps on the anime...
@Abdula: Even if that were possible it can't happen now, as the part of Oro that was in Sasuke has now been sealed away.
Can't you say. Well I agree its not likely and would make for an incredibly dreadful storyline but that has never stopped Kishi before, despite my love for Oro I didn't even want to see him come back again in any form but it still happened.
I thought the reason Oro showed up like he did was for Kishi to weasel the Susanoo/Yamata no Orochi mythology into it. Other than that, Oro is cannon fodder once again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
As alot of people have said, a "part" of Oro will probably come back with Kabuto, or maybe once Itachi is killed he will be unsealed. I personally think he is gone, and if he does come back it won't be anything spectacular. Oro has really lose his role as one of the top dog villains on the show. unless of course Kishi puts together a chain of events that catapult him to the main villain again (i.e. stealing Madara's body:eek:) [I strongly doubt that would happen though.]
It's a bit sad now that everyone's mentioned it, but Orochimaru's not going anywhere. They keep "sealing" him. I've also seen posts mentioning that he's immortal, and while I can't quite agree with that, I'm not quite sure how one would kill him anyway. The guy's been blasted with fire, cut in half, ravaged and pounded, some of these times when he had no chakra left, but he's still kicking. So I guess sealing him would be the only way to defeat him, but sealing him means he still around. There's no end in sight to this guy, and I'm almost positive he'll show up again, not in just some half kabuto construction, but in his "full glory". Probably before this fight's over....
Highly unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles
He was just used to show Susanou being used on someone cause after this fight = no Itachi - no Susanou - no victim for ultimate MS technique.
Kishi told me :D
I don't know that he has lost his position as a top dog villian. He may not be the most powerful anymore, when compared to Pein and Madara, but he is still the most interesting and most diabolically sinister.Quote:
Originally Posted by joker-kun
We certainly haven't seen the last of Orochimaru. He still hasn't been given a proper exit.
Well one thing is for sure... Sasuke will now be weaker with Oro gone. I don't think he will have any of Oro's healing abilities for example, and may even lose some of the techniques he was using against Itachi.
I highly doubt that. Kishi gave them to him for a reason and he was able to use them while supressing and without depending on Oro which tells me they are his now. I mean he does still have the sharingan right, and Oro did train him for three years so I doubt the techniques he has used thus far are going to go anywhere.
-The healing ability could simply be because he absorbed Oro. When he used them not only was he still supressing Oro meaning Oro wasn't using it but he was unaware of them himself so I think that too is a given at this point. Besides isn't Oro just sealed in some genjutsu realm, when he got stabbed didn't the snakes just slither back into Sasuke?
As far as Orochimaru not being completely owned this fight, I think that's the case because its just the least lame of the of ways Sasuke can survive this fight.
Sasuke can outright win the fight, by pulling some ultra secret attack. But if that was going to happen, he wouldn't have had to release Orochimaru. In otherwords, he's empty. If he's not, we're all calling it as it is, total BS. He can also just gain some kind of power up, which would probably be in the form of an advanced sharingan that may or may not be Mangekyou, but that's even lamer than Sasuke having another attack at his disposal. I can think of no other way for Sasuke to win.
If Sasuke is not going to outright win this fight, then he has to be saved. The konoha ninja are busy with Madara, they're not going anywhere. Sasuke's posse is busy with the shark guy with that ridiculous chakra eating sword. I doubt they'll defeat him and be able to come in and save Sasuke. Even if they do come in, are we supposed to buy that they can beat Itachi, even in this state, when Orochimaru couldn't? We have no indication of what their real strenght is, save for the impression that they're weaker than Sasuke. If they come in and win, I'm calling total BS.
So who's left to play Sasuke's hero? I guess Madara somehow could assuming he has plans for Sasuke, but he's busy with the konoha ninja. Some other Akatsuki? I'm just not seeing that happen, because they seem in general to be unaware of Madara even existing, and I doubt saving Sasuke would be part of any of their own agendas. Maybe some random ninja that we may or may not already know. Possible, but lame. That leaves Orochimaru. He's not dead, his presence has already been established, and we know him to be among the most powerful ninja around, including when comparing him to akatsuki. So if he somehow is not out of comission from that Susano thing, I wouldn't be surprised.
I suddenly have a funny feeling about Madara. I think the reason he covers up his eye is because his other eye is a Rinnegan, meaning he's a part of Pein. Pein said Akatsuki's purpose was to create a weapon to show people the meaning of pain. And they intend to use bijuu to do it. But we already know the Sharingan has the power to seal the bijuu, sort of how Sasuke took in Orochimaru's powers while he sealed him.
What if, in addition to sharing vision, Pein's bodies share chakra too? That would mean the 6 of them would share the chakra of nine bijuu. And one of the bodies would have enough chakra to use all the strong Sharingan techniques it wanted.
Maybe this is why Itachi said that Madara is weak. Madara probably lost to Pein, and is either in a mind-control genjutsu, or dead and re-animated or something. In any case, they seem to treat each other as equals despite our expectations that one should lead. Also, the reason Madara wears the Tobi mask might be as a convenient excuse to hide his new eye from Itachi. Pein and Madara probably don't want him to know.
As we're seeing in the current fight, having a Magnekyou Sharingan doesn't mean much if you don't have the chakra to back it up. Itachi's plan to surpass Madara may be to beat Pein when Madara couldn't. But he has to do that before Pein gets too many bijuu, and he has to get a fresh pair of eyes before he can fight Pein, even if it means redeveloping the Magnekyou Sharingan.
Obviously, this is all speculation. But I wouldn't mind reading it. Especially since Madara just met Naruto.
ahh gotta love reading here <3
LOL Orochimaru dynamic entry failed!
Hmm.. I'd just noticed that Sasuke look fat with CS2