Mangekyou Sharingan

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Originally posted by: Divinity
I forgot where I heard this or seen it, but I think it was Itachi who said there are only 3 people capable of using the Mangekyou Sharingan. Himself, Sasuke, and someone else. Is that Kakashi?

The Sharingan discriptions on naruto fansites say that Kakashi can't obtain it cuz he isn't a true Uchiha, but chapter 276 proves it wrong.

So... Did Kakashi copy it from Itachi during their first encounter, or is there more to it than meets the eye?

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Kakashi's eye is called Chingekyou Sharingan for those of you who think he can use the Mangekyou. I hate to tell you but it's false, Kakashi is not the third Mangekyou user, he just developed his own Sharingan type jutsu.

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Originally posted by: PSJ

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Originally posted by: Divinity
I forgot where I heard this or seen it, but I think it was Itachi who said there are only 3 people capable of using the Mangekyou Sharingan. Himself, Sasuke, and someone else. Is that Kakashi?

The Sharingan discriptions on naruto fansites say that Kakashi can't obtain it cuz he isn't a true Uchiha, but chapter 276 proves it wrong.

So... Did Kakashi copy it from Itachi during their first encounter, or is there more to it than meets the eye?

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Kakashi's eye is called Chingekyou Sharingan for those of you who think he can use the Mangekyou. I hate to tell you but it's false, Kakashi is not the third Mangekyou user, he just developed his own Sharingan type jutsu.

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Where did you hear this?

Also.... In the Manga it clearly says "Mangekyou Sharingan" in big bold letters running down the page. After hearing this, maybe they just wanted us to think it was Mangekyou... But I don't know...

I thought "Chingekyou" was just Mut joking around when the raw for that chapter was released.

what? Obito knew how to use MS. isn't there any manga readers here. Obito didn't even manage to get the 3rd dot of sharingan what makes u think he had MS. and don't u think he would be alive and untouched if he had MS. have u guys seen the Naruto vs susake fight before the fillers began. susake didn't have MS but the 3 dots was enough to do major damage. ofcourse kakashi is the 3rd user. what makes u think he isn't?
itachi killed every uchiha excluding his little brother. so the option of the 3rd unknown person is already done, which leaves u with kakashi.

Ahhh so many different opinions.... hehe... I'm sitll gonna stick to my idea that Kakashi somehow copied Mangekyou Sharingan. First off, Sharingan is a bloodline limit and it can't be copied Yes, but Tsukoyomi is a jutsu and Kakashi probably copied it and gained access to the Mangekyou Sharingan.

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Originally posted by: Divinity
Ahhh so many different opinions.... hehe... I'm sitll gonna stick to my idea that Kakashi somehow copied Mangekyou Sharingan. First off, Sharingan is a bloodline limit and it can't be copied Yes, but Tsukoyomi is a jutsu and Kakashi probably copied it and gained access to the Mangekyou Sharingan.

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Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu are both justu done with the MS through the eyes. There is nothing to copy, and Kakashi didn't copy it.

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Originally posted by: Naruto_RNG
ofcourse kakashi is the 3rd user. what makes u think he isn't?
itachi killed every uchiha excluding his little brother. so the option of the 3rd unknown person is already done, which leaves u with kakashi.

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There is always the possibility that Kakashi only just recently developed the MS, therefore he wouldn't be the 3rd user. It could be that the 3rd user was killed by Itachi (possibly Shisui), or that the first user ever has been dead for X-hundred years. We don't know.

But for the record, I'm starting to beleive it is Kakashi.

Well the 3rd user probably has been dead for X-hundred years which is why there is even a record on how to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan.

i bet the first user was the first of the Uchihia Clan

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Originally posted by: Naruto_RNG
what? Obito knew how to use MS. isn't there any manga readers here. Obito didn't even manage to get the 3rd dot of sharingan what makes u think he had MS. and don't u think he would be alive and untouched if he had MS. have u guys seen the Naruto vs susake fight before the fillers began. susake didn't have MS but the 3 dots was enough to do major damage. ofcourse kakashi is the 3rd user. what makes u think he isn't?
itachi killed every uchiha excluding his little brother. so the option of the 3rd unknown person is already done, which leaves u with kakashi.

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its just a therory that he might of survived that rock cave in, or something though actually come to think of it again, i dun really think he was the third one capaible of it, however personly i think he is still alive and i think hes that Tobi guy in akatsuki with the one eyed mask lol, he personality also sorta resembles Obito too XD

anyways it could be Kakashi, it could someone not even introduced yet, it could be someone whos dead, or someone else XD, but i guess il stick with my 2nd therory XD and say that Shishun? ( cant remeber his name -.- lol ) guy could have obtained it >: ) lol

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Originally posted by: KoKo37
actually come to think of it.. he did say "capable", so maybe it was like that Shishun guy. ( i forget his name, was the guy itachi killed to get mangekyou sharigan XD so il jus call him Shishun.. close enough lol ) because maybe it was Shishun that wanted to kill Itachi in order to gain mangekyou, and Itachi killed him in self defense, thus gaining the mangekyou sharigan, and like then maybe Shishun while dying told him to go to the scroll place and stuff and it pissed Itachi off or something so thats why he killed everyone -.- lol. so maybe its like a super plot twist and Itachi's not really evil and the Uchiha clan was planning to do something bad or somthing so he killed everyone.. -.- lol, course that still leaves a bunch of questions n stuff but just a theory XD

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Obito is not coming back, he was squashed like a little bug because he's a weakling.

Natural selection always applies, kiddies.

Itachi did say that Sasuke would be the third person ever to use the MS, right? That means the first two had to come before that flashback, so odds are it was the guy who wrote the scroll describing how to acquire the MS, since I doubt Itachi just figured out on his own that he had to kill his best friend just to get it. They'll probably never mention the guy who wrote the scroll ever, so we're probably stuck not knowing who it was.

Ero itachi said he is one of the three. that three includes susake too when he gets it. but i still say it is kakashi. itachi never said that the scrolls teach u how to obtain MS. he said the scrolls have the secret jutsus of the clan. i'll watch the eps again, but i'm sure it was something along those lines. he said he achieved it by killing his best friend. and i don't think out of all uchiha clan some guy and itachi and soon to be susake were the only ones who achieved MS. as for obito being alive, i'll tell u again he's dead, can't be alive nor akatsuki leader cause the leader has two eyes from what i saw in the manga & anime and both eyes looked alike. as for him beign a member of the group don't think either, he would of come back to village when his injuries were healed.

Im pretty sure his brother meant that sasuake would be the 3rd user ever. Its a "very rare trait" of what is a rare trait to begin with.

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Originally posted by: Gen
Im pretty sure his brother meant that sasuake would be the 3rd user ever. Its a "very rare trait" of what is a rare trait to begin with.

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Pretty much.

But keep in mind if Kakashi could have acquired Mangekyou before the entire Uchiha massacre. Perhaps Kakashi was the first to ever use it.

I don't beleive this myself, it's just a possibility. I'm of teh opinion that the first user ever lived long before Itachi and wrote down all the secrets of the Sharingan in that room under the tatami mat.

...i doubt kakashi acquired mangekyou before because why would he let itachi beat down on him then? why not mangekyou back.

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Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
...i doubt kakashi acquired mangekyou before because why would he let itachi beat down on him then? why not mangekyou back.

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yah, or why didn't he use vs zabuza if he was about to die then XD, anyways i doubght it was kakashi XD

Kakashi was not about to die when he fought Zabuza. He owned Zabuza's ass. Actually, most of his injuries came from him letting Zabuza hit him...but that's not the point.

CK, yeah, you're right. If he had it back then he could have used it on Itachi. I guess that proves he's not the 3rd user.

kakashi couldn't use his MS because he was caught off gaurd by itachi's, and it would of been pointless if he would of used it since he was in illlutionary world. wast of chakra. if kakashi has a MS not something else, then each MS has it's own set of moves. itachi's is illutionary and kakashi's could be something else i don't know what to call that black hole thing kakashi did to sasories weird friend, forgot his name. why would he use it against zabuza, sharingan was more than enough for him. u guys are forgetting that MS use a lot of chakra mainly for kakashi. if u don't believe go read the magna and see wut happened to kakashi when he used it.

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Originally posted by: Naruto_RNG
kakashi couldn't use his MS because he was caught off gaurd by itachi's, and it would of been pointless if he would of used it since he was in illlutionary world. wast of chakra. if kakashi has a MS not something else, then each MS has it's own set of moves. itachi's is illutionary and kakashi's could be something else i don't know what to call that black hole thing kakashi did to sasories weird friend, forgot his name. why would he use it against zabuza, sharingan was more than enough for him. u guys are forgetting that MS use a lot of chakra mainly for kakashi. if u don't believe go read the magna and see wut happened to kakashi when he used it.

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Kakashi also said he wasn't good at using MS yet. So it could only mean that during the time-jump is when he learned to use the MS.

Am I the only one who thinks that there are three MS users and three different ways to achieve it?