if it has to do w/ hating sakura, then it's all good.Quote:
Originally posted by: jing
Can't we all just be friends.... and hate sakura?
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if it has to do w/ hating sakura, then it's all good.Quote:
Originally posted by: jing
Can't we all just be friends.... and hate sakura?
hotsuma, in all honesty i'd have to say the only one who sounds heated up is you. I rather enjoy debates that i have alot to say about. And strange how i bash the anime all the time for pointless things they add or animations that just seem wrong, and then people accuse me of being to hard on it. Then I come here and now apparently the series is my religion. wtf??Quote:
Originally posted by: Hotsuma
You don't have a problem with it. And honestly, I don't care that you don't either. What I think is ridiculous is you trolling me(and anybody else)by saying "If you don't like it, don't read it" when I've said for the umpteenth time that I'm STILL a fan of the series. Disliking something isn't necassarily a problem. It's just a disagreement, one that I can live with. (but I'll still rag on it) Especially for one damn fight. You're making this waaaaaay bigger than it really is. I'm saying it has DBZ elements plastered all over it, and that I dislike it. You're the fool that's taking it like I insulted your fucking religion.
All i did in response to you was prove how your anal analagy about something that happened in dbz (something, might i add, which was NOT one of the reasons for it being a bad show) can also be applied to way more series than just naruto. In fact, i wasnt even referring to you when i said "watch something else" in the first place, it was actually towards Rasendori. You know someone's a spazz when they flip out at a single line of a big discussion.
As i've pointed it out many times, MOST long running series like this have these elements. In fact in the future if you find a fighting/action series that will last for a long time, then you should assume you're gonna get pissed about it, and so dont get involved with that series. Naruto starts out as a kid....naruto dreams of being hokage. OBVIOUSLY this means that over the course of the series, naruto will be "leveling up." If you think shuriken tricks alone was gonna make him hokage, then wtf were you thinking?
People tell you to stop watching the series cause nobody on this forum wants to hear your masochistic practices of reading something that you know you're gonna end up hating. In fact i speak for all of us when i say "NOBODY CARES HOW MUCH THIS IS LIKE DBZ"....these arguments have been done many times.
interesting that you act like you understand my point, yet you just accept the fact, and decide to let dbz forever ruin any series that involves action elements that may have already happened in dbz. If you say it won't change a thing, then whats the point in even discussing anything with you? You'll only be using the forum to ventilate your frustrations while the rest of us have to endure it. And yes....i do mean ENDURE it. These chapters are groundbreaking events that will forever affect the rest of the naruto series. Those of us who are enjoying this would like to be able to talk about how awesome this fight is turning out, but instead our excitement is destroyed by all the whining that is going on in this forum. It really does take away from the experience when people bitch all the time.Quote:
Uh, no shit. It's kind of hard not to associate the two when they share that many similarities. And yes, it is lame. When you see everything mentioned above, I don't know a word that better describes it. You can preach to me all you want as to why it's happening (Because Naruto is so mad!!!111one), but that won't change a thing.
Mage: someday you'll learn that arguments arent a luxury only enjoyed by the youth.
*OFFTOPIC**OFFTOPIC**OFFTOPIC**OFFTOPIC**OFFTOPIC* *OFFTOPIC*
i love to see when people "flame" each other on a network forum. Just please do it on topic.
anyway,
i thought DBZ was a cool series. Not a Great series (which would actually include logic, a good storyline, good character development, and a monster soundtrack), but nonetheless a very entertaining series to watch. If you weren't in awe from Goku turning SSJ ON Freeza and its all like "AAHHHH!!!!", then yeah, watever. I just thought it was COOL to finally have that sunbitch freeza on his ASS screaming for his life.
And yes, naruto has many similarities as DBZ which makes it a COOL series. But what makes it a far BETTER series (in comparison to DBZ) is that it actually has a good storyline, logic, good character development, and a ...decent soundtrack.
*ONTOPIC**ONTOPIC**ONTOPIC**ONTOPIC**ONTOPIC**ONTO PIC*
o yeah btw, i didnt read the entire thread cuz its.. pretty long.. so im not adding anything useful to the "discussion" if there was actually something going on. Here is my 2 cents: i thought freakin 230 was AWESOME! OMG. After i read that i was in awe. Not only in naruto's physconess, but also from Sasuke's power. I think it will be a tie. I really dont want either to win because 1. If sasuke wins, the whole goal of Naruto's promise to Sakura and Sasuke will not be fulfilled and 2. if naruto wins, sasuke will only become even more of a bitch and run away again anyway to Oro and maybe waste ANOTHER YEAR of our lives catching up to him. Kakashi has to play a VERY important role in this fight at the end since kishimoto gave us the honor by showing nearly a whole chapter of him jumping after them and probably even Kabuto, which would end up as an awesome fight. FUTURE APPEARANCES? : 1. Kakashi 2. Kabuto
3. Itachi 4. Jiraiya
according to this chap it safe to say that, sasuke has relized that the curse seal is holding him back. true
"You are someone who knows the same pain of loneliness that I do. And.. that pain makes a person stronger. Because of that, by severing these bonds... I will gain even more strength."
I was expecting Sasuke to win and join Oro - but after that sentence I don't think that option is valid anymore. Sasuke will, just like Gaara, learn that fighting for someone is better than fighting for yourself. Maybe he will beat Naruto and then be caught off-guard by Gaara or will have to face all the survivors of the expedition team + sand in a group fight when they fight for Naruto - and his very own sake. But what is imho certain is that by the end of this fight, Sasuke will have understood just like Neji and Gaara did.
haha theyve been running around in the woods for so long that i forgot all about the point of the fight and them realising its better to fight for others thatn urself
Chapter 231 prediction.
we will see naruto beating around sasuke, and sasuke then decides to use the curse seal because he cant keep up with naruto...and then we will see CS2 properly...
I might be a bit late, but whoever said that YYH doesn't have smart fights is a dumbass. Especially if said person is a Naruto fan.
I'm sorry, but YYH's fights have a lot more twists and charm than most of the Naruto ones.
Finally, you should all read JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Now that manga has the best fights EVER. So fucking smart. It's impossible to predict winners.
Cut the DBZ shit already, its been discussed to death!!!
If you dont like the fact that Naruto and a bunch of other series take some elements from DBZ, oh well. Its the author's choice and we have to live with it.
As for Naruto, which this thread and forum happen to be about, I think this fight is partially more a combination of strengths and tactics/strategy. The reason Naruto is not using clones against Sasuke is because it didn't work in the past, so he learned this and isn't wasting chakra on it. Sasuke is flipped out because of gaining more "power" which he is obsessed with because of his Brother. They are both in a high emotional state right now, so expect them to give it their all, which can include more advanced techniques/abilities.
Its just a damn story, quit getting all riled up over it, jeez. There are better things to do then to sit here complaining and bitching. Maybe its time to go out and get some fresh air and get off your computer for awhile. Trust me, it helps, [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
PS: If you want an example of boring, try reading this thread from start to finish, having at least half of it taken up on DBZ fighting, rather then the thread topic.
- Reason -
Sorry, man. I was in a pretty SHITTY mood last night after watching Resident Evil Apocolypse. (Do not watch if you're a real RE fan.) Anyways.Quote:
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
hotsuma, in all honesty i'd have to say the only one who sounds heated up is you. I rather enjoy debates that i have alot to say about. And strange how i bash the anime all the time for pointless things they add or animations that just seem wrong, and then people accuse me of being to hard on it. Then I come here and now apparently the series is my religion. wtf??Quote:
Originally posted by: Hotsuma
You don't have a problem with it. And honestly, I don't care that you don't either. What I think is ridiculous is you trolling me(and anybody else)by saying "If you don't like it, don't read it" when I've said for the umpteenth time that I'm STILL a fan of the series. Disliking something isn't necassarily a problem. It's just a disagreement, one that I can live with. (but I'll still rag on it) Especially for one damn fight. You're making this waaaaaay bigger than it really is. I'm saying it has DBZ elements plastered all over it, and that I dislike it. You're the fool that's taking it like I insulted your fucking religion.
All i did in response to you was prove how your anal analagy about something that happened in dbz (something, might i add, which was NOT one of the reasons for it being a bad show) can also be applied to way more series than just naruto. In fact, i wasnt even referring to you when i said "watch something else" in the first place, it was actually towards Rasendori. You know someone's a spazz when they flip out at a single line of a big discussion.
As i've pointed it out many times, MOST long running series like this have these elements. In fact in the future if you find a fighting/action series that will last for a long time, then you should assume you're gonna get pissed about it, and so dont get involved with that series. Naruto starts out as a kid....naruto dreams of being hokage. OBVIOUSLY this means that over the course of the series, naruto will be "leveling up." If you think shuriken tricks alone was gonna make him hokage, then wtf were you thinking?
People tell you to stop watching the series cause nobody on this forum wants to hear your masochistic practices of reading something that you know you're gonna end up hating. In fact i speak for all of us when i say "NOBODY CARES HOW MUCH THIS IS LIKE DBZ"....these arguments have been done many times.
interesting that you act like you understand my point, yet you just accept the fact, and decide to let dbz forever ruin any series that involves action elements that may have already happened in dbz. If you say it won't change a thing, then whats the point in even discussing anything with you? You'll only be using the forum to ventilate your frustrations while the rest of us have to endure it. And yes....i do mean ENDURE it. These chapters are groundbreaking events that will forever affect the rest of the naruto series. Those of us who are enjoying this would like to be able to talk about how awesome this fight is turning out, but instead our excitement is destroyed by all the whining that is going on in this forum. It really does take away from the experience when people bitch all the time.Quote:
Uh, no shit. It's kind of hard not to associate the two when they share that many similarities. And yes, it is lame. When you see everything mentioned above, I don't know a word that better describes it. You can preach to me all you want as to why it's happening (Because Naruto is so mad!!!111one), but that won't change a thing.
Mage: someday you'll learn that arguments arent a luxury only enjoyed by the youth.
the point I'm trying to come across is that whenever I do say Naruto, or ANY given show that has good fights has DBZ elements, people really do act like I just shot one of their own kids. It's sad, but they live in this little world where everything in Naruto is perfect, and every fight is completely original. And then when people call the similarity, act like it's not real, or justifiable with excuses. "Naruto is mad! He's passionate about his friends..etc etc DBZ isn't like that at all!" I don't care, because that doesn't change the fact that it's still there.
What I'm saying is "I dislike this fight, and think it would be better if Naruto did... instead." If you're going to just sit there and enjoy everything that's being fed to you, then fine. Blindly enjoy a series. Nothing wrong with that. Other people have their own ideas of how things could have been done better. Is that reason enough for them to hate the series? No. It just means it's an opinion differing from Kishimotos. And it certainly isn't enough to warrant the "Don't watch, if you don't agree with it!" attitude that people here always cop.
And I agree. Nobody really does care if it has DBZ elements. It's shitty, but hopefully only this fight. It's dumbshits that try to justify and say its ok, that I think are fucktards. I want better, though.
DBZ elements did ruin this fight, so far. MAINLY, the process they were going through (lose, come back stronger) The fights, OTOH, were pretty fun, because unlike DBZ, they're still mortal.
Back on topic..
Finally.. Naruto gaining strength through a fox, allows him to become closer to Hokage? I don't think so. I think, ultimately, he'll try to become a great ninja, without having to use so much force. The hokages weren't hokages just through sheer strength. It's their SKILL that made them as good as they were.
Anyways.. SOrry again. I was fucking sour after Anderson messed up Resident Evil 2. Had to take it out on somefin. No hard feelings, hopefully. None here anyways.
Havent been here in a day, anyway Sasukes abilities from I can see are far better with the Sharingan then with the cursed seal, and he was even able to kick Naruto out of his Kyuubi form.
More or less he will go to lvl 2 just b/c Kishimoto knows that the populas wants him to. the fact that Naruto basically depending on the kyuubi chakra now is just lame(no discussion otherwise).
I really hope that if there is a time jump, well see naruto being able to only use the chakra when hes about to die(only when THAT happens) if he goes on like this (the whole fox, one tail look) its going to get boring to alot of people.
The better understanding of the sharingan was very appreciated to alot of us b/c now we know that it perceives things several steps ahead. And Naruto and the 4th "Being similar" proves that he is the 4ths son (but its not like we didnt know that already)
i was hearing everyone saying how did sasukes punches hurt naruto well half of it was mentioned.
FIrst like already said the punches are counters which is using naurto's power agisnt him. Those punches alone naruto would quickly recover from and he wouldnt need to release more of the kyuubi. The reason that i did'nt see anyone mention was sasuke had kicked naruto head where it landed underwater. I mean how are you supposed to be recovring when you cant breath thats why naruto needed to get more power to reverse that situation. I dont care how much chakara a charater has he can still drown.
Oh and btw hotuma should have his own speacil group called "Flamemaster"
AssertnFailure, the fact is, you aren't simply argueing, you're flaming like little kids. And, as you said, we're having to ENDURE through this flame fest.
never will there be a chapter that doesn't turn out in a flame fest, why can't we all just share our opinions and not try to prove each other wrong cuz we know we can't nobody is willing to change their views on things anyway
its ok hotsuma.....it sounded like you were bashing it just because they were transforming like something that has happened in dbz before. Personally i think the stuff in this battle is cool. Because you know that regardless of the outcome, neither sasuke nor naruto will be the same after this. This is one of the reasons why anime is better than cartoons......If you watch batman, the villain always gets away and the good guy always has to take him down the same basic way he has before. They always leave the show open for improvised encounters without fear of inconsistency (which basically means "make as many eps as they can before people get bored"). And its not drawn out such like sasuke upgrades, then fights for a while, then naruto upgrades, and fights for a while......both sides are changing in like, every chapter!
Terracosmo: the problem with coming into a discussion late is you miss the ideas behind the discussion.....nobody was bashing YYH, i was only using it as a point that other shows can be compared to dbz
mage: show me a flame, and i'll show you why you're a noob
You aren't adding any to the discussion yourself. All you are doing is chiming in with smartass remarks. You want to talk about maturity? Try not adding fuel to the fire. If you have an argument about something one of them has said in their posts, then state it. But you aren't arguing, YOU are flaming like a little kid.Quote:
Originally posted by: mage
AssertnFailure, the fact is, you aren't simply argueing, you're flaming like little kids. And, as you said, we're having to ENDURE through this flame fest.
Nobody is forcing you to endure anything. You know what their argument is about, if you don't like it, then skip over their replies. Thats what mature people do.
Sidanne why do you have to flame me like that? grow up
Well done, Mage. You have managed to display the extent of your intelligence in only 3 posts. You are completely unable to post anything resembling an argument or add to the discussion. Your abilities consist only of considering everything a flame and calling others immature.
lol mage...........
tell me, would your ideal forum world be people posting what they like and dont like and nobody else would respond in any way that opposes their post? if so.....then that would be one hell of a boring forum
Yes it would, but I think the transformations are good, its just how many times they use them, people are mostly complaing and saying "wow, naruto went to kyuubi, Sasukes going down, ah man S just got his lvl3 sharingan, man, but wait Naruto got more power from Kyuubi, give me a break"
ILL SPELL THIS OUT FOR YOU REALLY SIMPLY, the reason why this keeps happening is so that when the fight over theyll both go and say "I had to rely on this(lvl 2 curse seal or Kyuubi chakra) so much, that in order for me to become a great ninja is to learn how NOT to use it as much" by the end of the series we wont see them use it as much, so stop complaining
this chapter was awesome when i saw the last page a BIG smile went across my face. naruto is awesome in his new form. altho if he does this in every fight its going to become boring i hope its one of those one time things. i have to agree with hotsuma on what he wrote in the first pages. the lack of ninjutsu and strategy is becoming quite boring. sasuke is also awesome now with his complete sharingan. i want more :'(
just have to comment on this with yondaime, this looks like it will involve parts of old naruto - 4th theories and i would love to see who has anything right in this.
PSJ: i still think inane got the translation wrong and its supposed to say "Kid, you should thank me and the 4th hokage that sealed me in you"
thats what another person translated it to be.....and it sounds more practical imo
i dont think strategic henges would be as cool in this fight.....its way too significant for it to have an outcome decided by some sneaky bastard technique
ok yea that would make more sense... yea for this fight i want the brute force badass transformations fight but in the future i want it to go back to ninjutsu and strategy again.
I wouldnt mind seeing what Sakura did to Zaku in a fight again(but not as gay or useless), with all the copies but ok brute force can sometimes work and I guess Kishimoto is just elaborating on that
it all depends on the significance of the fight and the characters involved.
if naruto beat sasuke by farting in his face.........then about 80% of the naruto fans would stop watching
Now this is a interesting prediction, I would really like to see that. It would fit the theme of Naruto very well and also keep sasuke on the good side.(plus i think it would make this arc incredible)Quote:
Originally posted by: Elessar
"You are someone who knows the same pain of loneliness that I do. And.. that pain makes a person stronger. Because of that, by severing these bonds... I will gain even more strength."
I was expecting Sasuke to win and join Oro - but after that sentence I don't think that option is valid anymore. Sasuke will, just like Gaara, learn that fighting for someone is better than fighting for yourself. Maybe he will beat Naruto and then be caught off-guard by Gaara or will have to face all the survivors of the expedition team + sand in a group fight when they fight for Naruto - and his very own sake. But what is imho certain is that by the end of this fight, Sasuke will have understood just like Neji and Gaara did.
@AssertnFailure: And the problem with feeling that posts are directed at you only is that it's completely unnecessary. In other words, I wasn't talking about you. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
i dont want sasuke to turn good again that would ruin this whole arc that put so much weight in the sasuke - oro relationship and sasuke cutting all bonds to leaf. if he turns good again i will lose much of my respect for this show. just to compare it to dbz, i want a reverse vegeta situation instead of turning good from bad i want him to turn evil completly fomr this point since it has happened gradually for a long time.
awesome chapter. lots of information is presented about sharingan.
future: sasuke needs to escape so oro can buttfuck him
pretty good chapter, can't wait to find out the conclusion to naruto vs sasuke fight.
I don't think Sasuke will come back to 'the good side' anytime soon. Ever since we first saw the sannin, the parallels with them and Team 7 have only grown. Sasuke is clearly the Oro of Team 7 and I would be really surprised (and disappointed) if Naruto managed to turn him around. Now I could see Naruto winning and dragging Sasuke forcibly back, which would only make Sasuke hate Konoha more. It would also ruin this whole arc that has started to drag on a bit. (Before everyone flames me again about how I complain about this arc's length, this chapter has redeemed the arc, more with the dialogue than the whole transformo-naruto thing.)Quote:
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
i dont want sasuke to turn good again that would ruin this whole arc that put so much weight in the sasuke - oro relationship and sasuke cutting all bonds to leaf. if he turns good again i will lose much of my respect for this show. just to compare it to dbz, i want a reverse vegeta situation instead of turning good from bad i want him to turn evil completly fomr this point since it has happened gradually for a long time.
oh.....i thought you did, since i was the only one talking about YYH [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
@AssertnFailure: And the problem with feeling that posts are directed at you only is that it's completely unnecessary. In other words, I wasn't talking about you. [img][/img]
as cool as the idea of having one of the kids be a protagonist with the level 3 sharingan and level 2 curse seal.....its kinda sad that he'll end up being a bad guy [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
No you weren't, re-read all posts! Damnit! I should have just pointed fingers and called names to begin with lol [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Man, if Naruto beats Sasuke that way, I'd love the series even more. It'd be the ultimate pwnage.Quote:
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
it all depends on the significance of the fight and the characters involved.
if naruto beat sasuke by farting in his face.........then about 80% of the naruto fans would stop watching
well at least we can be pretty sure naruto wont defeat him with 1000 years of pain
Naruto is annoying, I hope he gets his ass kicked
i wanna see this superkyubi-naruto do some shit...looks bad ass!!
im thinking this fight might end with interference...but i think we will see a winner through the fighting, i just dont think the fight will finish...if there is to be interference
assertnfailure your racial remarks are offendingQuote:
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
lol mage...........
tell me, would your ideal forum world be people posting what they like and dont like and nobody else would respond in any way that opposes their post? if so.....then that would be one hell of a boring forum
i dont see a racial comment in that quote..
??
because your eyes are un-trained, my son.
well then train my eyes...
where is this racial remark in the text..??
neither do i.
urgh...if it ends w/ interference i would be not very happy. they need to finish their fight!!
yeah i do want the fight to finish...
its just that i have a feeling interfernce is going to happen before the finish..
from the start of this mission ive had this feeling that someone would interfere..
man i hate this fight i wish naruto would just hurry up and drop some turds into sasukes mouth.
You still haven't pointed out the racial remark.
well the fact is that its there
there is one thing i can't stand, it's when people start to spit out bullshit and play it off as if it really happened or it's the truth. don't post stupid crap like that and if you don't like it, then show me where a racial remark was made in this thread. if you happen to find it, i'll apologize. but good luck finding it cuz if i looked through the thread and i couldn't find it, sure as hell you won't.Quote:
Originally posted by: mage
well the fact is that its there
Shut the fuck up, dumbass.Quote:
Originally posted by: mage
well the fact is that its there
Hey, if you're going to accuse someone of actually making an offensive racial comment, you should really point out where he did it. This is an attack on Assertn's character that goes far beyond any normal type of flaming. This is unacceptable. Point out what you're seeing or apologize. You don't have to listen to me obviously, but mods, if any of you see this, I would hope that you would enforce this. I'm sure you don't tolerate any kind of racism on the forums, nor should you tolerate any kind of unsupported and/or false accusations of such.Quote:
Originally posted by: mage
well the fact is that its there
On topic: I've said this before, maybe, but I think they're going to reach a limit in they're powering up, at which point, it's just going to switch into the ninja fights we all know and love, but with high stakes involved. Situational analysis, cleaver tactics, etc. will become important again. That's my hope as well as my prediction. It would serve to show what these new powers are really capable of.
When did the thread change from Inane 230 to "Flaming troll biasly and blindly accuses someone of racial comments just to prove his ignorance." thread?
Anyway, I like the fight, but I don't want it to carry longer than a chapter or two. It seems slightly dragged out to me. Thats probably because of the numerous waits we have all had to endure. Oh well, I am just hoping in the end the finale is great and starts the new arc with alot of feeling and tension with it. I just hope he doesnt end this in a melodramatic sort of way. If it does the series will probably start or worse, become stale.
I hope so as well. I miss the good old days of logical fighting. This head butting tactic is getting a little old. Kishimoto must be stressing for good ideas or is makeing us all sweat to the end so he can surprise us with a really good finish. On the whole interuption bit. Kakshi will get there to see the fight but not be able to stop what's going on. On another note. If Naruto keeps using the Kyubi mode more and more dosn't he run the risk of never coming back out of it again and becoming Kyubi him self?Quote:
Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
On topic: I've said this before, maybe, but I think they're going to reach a limit in they're powering up, at which point, it's just going to switch into the ninja fights we all know and love, but with high stakes involved. Situational analysis, cleaver tactics, etc. will become important again. That's my hope as well as my prediction. It would serve to show what these new powers are really capable of.
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Originally posted by: Hotsuma
I don't know why, but has it ever occured to people here that Kyuubi isn't as invincible as people make it out to be? What I mean to say is, maybe Kyuubi is a double edged, sword. And by tapping into his power, Naruto ultimately loses a part of himself in the process. I dislike the idea of having an invincible trump card for Naruto, mainly cause he's such a clever fighter, and will use trickery to win, instead of brute force.
Yeah normaly Naruto is a clever fighter,thats why the hole chapter i was waiting for Naruto to do something clever about Sasuke reading his movement,i want to see the clever Naruto not the one the goes berserk and becomes a demon fox even if he looks cool.
But it was intresting seeing Sasuke learning his sharingan more and when kybui teased Naruto was intrestring also cause finaly they said something about the fourth.
Also i like what you have said in the topic so far cause IT IS lame all these powerups,i think it becasue kisimoto is running out of ideas or he is saving somethin speciel for us.
Hrm thoughts on this entire leveling up etc...
Well... we have seen throughout the manga that both sasuke and naruto, and for that matter the rest of the Genin's are constantly training.
We are just being shown the "breakthrough" moments of these events. Would ya rather have seen another chapters of chakra modling like when Naruto was dealing with the Rasengan. Yay training.
As much as I love seeing Lee kick a tree... it gets boring after the 50th time.
Suffice it to say I really enjoyed this chapter. I like seeing the characters grow and mature. I don't need to see every step of how they got to it... seeing the end results is just fine at times.
I agree with this, i see kakashi rallying all the gennins, sand and bringing them to interupt the fight, which by this time will be at the climax where sasuke and naruto will almost kill each other, (after powering up to the max), by doing some big mega jitsu. then after being interupted, they have this long talk about how the leaf will not make sasuke weaker (they did defeat the five sounds). however, before sasuke makes up his up, kabuto shows up aducts him and brings him to the snake man he will brain wash him and take over his body before he gets rescue haahahahaaa!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] (j/k) but i do agree that sasuke will see the light ,i feel a character like him in this situation will go back to the good side sooner or later [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: tuggumkee
Now this is a interesting prediction, I would really like to see that. It would fit the theme of Naruto very well and also keep sasuke on the good side.(plus i think it would make this arc incredible)Quote:
Originally posted by: Elessar
"You are someone who knows the same pain of loneliness that I do. And.. that pain makes a person stronger. Because of that, by severing these bonds... I will gain even more strength."
I was expecting Sasuke to win and join Oro - but after that sentence I don't think that option is valid anymore. Sasuke will, just like Gaara, learn that fighting for someone is better than fighting for yourself. Maybe he will beat Naruto and then be caught off-guard by Gaara or will have to face all the survivors of the expedition team + sand in a group fight when they fight for Naruto - and his very own sake. But what is imho certain is that by the end of this fight, Sasuke will have understood just like Neji and Gaara did.
As for the mother theory... doubt it, i think when kuybi said that naruto and the fourth are alike he was talking about their spirit.... ( when the fourth was battling kuybi he must have acted and talked like naruto before finally sealing kuybi), this probable means that even the kuybi agrees that he will be the fifth, hokage. (or maybe i'm comletely wrong and its really a mis-translation.)
i don't think the nine-tails is a double-egde sword, rather a really strong power... and i'am sure u have heard this before .."power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutly" i think that this might have somesort of play in this story..
Anyway, i'm hopeful that kishimoto is really just pumping us up for the real fighting the next chapter, obviously, it's working lol, thats when we'ill see naruto's creativity combine with kuybi's strength vs sasuke's almost complete sharigan with his no.1 skills in ninja art combine with his cursed seal strength.
the will of fighting for oneself vs. the spirit of fighting for someone else. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
please comment nicely lol [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
jeez why do you guys have to flame me so bad?
*coughMoroncough*
Anyway, welcome to the forums Shadow-arrows!
wow thats a big 1st post
whoa, whats been going on here while i was away? racial wha? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
i dunno if sneakiness would work in naruto's favor in this match. Sasuke's a pretty clever guy as well, and dont forget.....he can see through genjutsu, so all the crafty stuff naruto tends to come up with (usually involving henge), wouldnt even work.
sasuke isn't coming back to the leaf nor is he gonna turn good!
the only reason why kakashi was introduced back to the arc was to bring back naruto's beaten up body.
Maybe .....
Gamabunta will settled this ...
Frog boss is summoned , he catch Sasuke with his tong and hold him inside his throat .
That's the simple way ....
Or we'll get some super fight; Sasuke turn Super Wild and Naruto increase his Kyuubi Side and loose control for a frw moment.
*Take cover !*
Or kishimoto will gave us some super Naruto Chapter ...
Sakura will maybe put an end to this fight (like on the roof of this Hospital ...)
She will think "I can't let the ones I loves kill each others , I must do something .." Sakura jump in the battle , but this time no kakashi to recuse her and °°Bang°° She dies ...
Naruto and Sasuke come back to normal
You know there have been times(in anime/manga) where that one good guy went bad and then turned good again, so its still possible for him to still be goodQuote:
Originally posted by: Mut@t@
sasuke isn't coming back to the leaf nor is he gonna turn good!
the only reason why kakashi was introduced back to the arc was to bring back naruto's beaten up body.
how awkward would it be if sasuke came back? but i don't want him to work w/ oro. still...
sasuke wont come back. its like mutata said. why would kakashi be able to make him come back now when he couldnt before sasuke is even more set on going to orochimaru now then he was last time kakashi talked to him about it.
I think this time around he may actually have to do it by force(most likely will not work), and just b/c he going there doesnt mean he has to stay after hes learned everthing he needed from him, unless oro takes his body.
Its like Gaara discovered, love makes us strong, not pain. Sasuke will discover this too. Perhaps Kakashi will show up and give Sasuke a clue about the truth behind the mangekyo(sp?). Maybe he will tell him that the real secret is not killing your best friend, but the realization of just how much that person meant to you. Afterall, sometimes you don't know what you've got til its gone, right? Love is the answer!
no he will probably not stay after getting stronger afterall he wants to kill itachi but after that he will just turn into a missing nin like his older brother, heck if he continues like this he will become his older brother.
Oh I can see it now if that happens, hell be somewhere(probably after a hard fight with one of his old comerads(sp?)) and he looks in a puddle or pond and sees his face and then he sees his brothers face and screams, that would be good b/c he would've realized that he has been following the wrong path but its just speculation.
:: sniff sniff :: that was so touching.Quote:
Originally posted by: Sidnne
Its like Gaara discovered, love makes us strong, not pain. Sasuke will discover this too. Perhaps Kakashi will show up and give Sasuke a clue about the truth behind the mangekyo(sp?). Maybe he will tell him that the real secret is not killing your best friend, but the realization of just how much that person meant to you. Afterall, sometimes you don't know what you've got til its gone, right? Love is the answer!
sasuke be like itachi...HAH!! sasuke's not that strong. but that scenario that knives made up would be touching too. :: sniff sniff :: i might actually cry.
Why do I have the feeling this is how this arc will end:
My prediction:
Naruto is already going berserk in the next chapter since he can't handle the amount of chakra, Sasuke can't handle it either and he wont go Level 2. Before Naruto can do any more harm to Sasuke, The Genin's show up with the Sand nins, and then they try to stop Naruto from flipping out, meanwhile Sasuke flees to Oro, and then Finally Kakashi shows up to deal with Naruto.
I can also see this heading south, with Kakashi showing up in time to stop them from killing each other, but then perhaps Sasuke kills Kakashi or something.
Either of these would be an interesting conclussion.
- Reason -
sasuke kill kakashi??????
It might satisfy the "kill your closest friend" thing for him and still leave the series with a protagonist.... though minus one wu-tang badass ninja.Quote:
Originally posted by: jing
sasuke kill kakashi??????
im just sayinh SASUKE KILL KAKASHI? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE.
Either of these may happen, but I really must disagree about level 2. We will see it soon enough, I think that's a given.Quote:
Originally posted by: Reason
Why do I have the feeling this is how this arc will end:
My prediction:
Naruto is already going berserk in the next chapter since he can't handle the amount of chakra, Sasuke can't handle it either and he wont go Level 2. Before Naruto can do any more harm to Sasuke, The Genin's show up with the Sand nins, and then they try to stop Naruto from flipping out, meanwhile Sasuke flees to Oro, and then Finally Kakashi shows up to deal with Naruto.
I can also see this heading south, with Kakashi showing up in time to stop them from killing each other, but then perhaps Sasuke kills Kakashi or something.
Either of these would be an interesting conclussion.
- Reason -
I have the ultimate solution. Kakashi brings Sakura around, and being the Sasuke-obsessed bitch she is, gets in the way of one of Naruto's blows, thus killing her. Or, he kills her himself, and then meets the requirement for level 2. Either way, she dies and the rest of the world is happy.
so many possiblities. it would suck if sasuke goes back to the leaf. it's a big blow if this happens.
But you know it's going to happen. Sasuke's going to grow up sometimes. And, going back to the Leaf is just a part of that. I don't see why people here hate Sasuke so much. Prior to these set of events (Oro part 2), he was a pretty good guy. He saved Naruto's can a few times, most noticably, in his fight with Haku. He was a noble character, until Itachi fucked his mind up.
i wont sasuke to go bad...but goin back to the leaf is kinda enivitable(sp?) i dont really mind that...i dont really mind sasuke he is not that bad of a character...but yeah he let itachi play around with him to much.
Yeah, that's a weakness. What he should do is "eh. I'm alive, I'll get stronger, but I'm not worrying about itachi. the past, as bad as it was, is the past. I'll move on." Itachi'll probably come after him then, and he can kill him when that happens.
Bleh. If Sasuke goes back to Konoha then there will be nothing to drive the story. Sakura will get in the way, and they'll continue doing non-story missions. Sasuke needs to go to Orochimaru while Sakura turns her back on Naruto to break team 7(Is that the number?) and drive the story somewhere that it should go, like more individual character development for those characters just now taking the spotlight (Neji, if he lived, Shikamaru, etc.. and the new alliance with the Leaf and Sand).
Let him go, people! Sasuke needs to follow this path and let his spirit get broken later by Itachi. I doubt he'll stay with Orochimaru long anyway.
yes yes the world would be a better place. tears of joy r flowing from my eyes.Quote:
Originally posted by: Hotsuma
I have the ultimate solution. Kakashi brings Sakura around, and being the Sasuke-obsessed bitch she is, gets in the way of one of Naruto's blows, thus killing her. Or, he kills her himself, and then meets the requirement for level 2. Either way, she dies and the rest of the world is happy.
sasuke can come back to konoha and together he and naruto can battle the akatsuki together.
I have to say that this thread has been 9 pages of utter shit. I had to sift through that many pages of DBZ-flames, when the arguing parties should have created their own thread for the argumentatively challenged, and fought it out with blowup boxing gloves.
There were a few gems though. Elessar's comment that brought up the point of the entire arc was exceedingly accurate, in my eyes. The whole point of this adventure was to prove the point... fighting for someone else is what makes you strong. It seems that every (good) main character in the story has learned the lesson except Sasuke. (Whether he's "good" or "bad" is up for debate now...) Most of the people learned that lesson... FIGHTING NARUTO. Hello?! *knock knock knock* Anyone home?! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
My predictions for the next chapter... I think that the three-dot sharingan will be a possible negative when his sight fills with the probabilities of Naruto's moves. I have a vision in my head of tons of Narutos on a single pane surrounding Sasuke. Probably not though... just a Naruto-fanboy vision probably.
As far as long term, I'd love if Gaara and Lee entered the picture together to illustrate the point Elessar brought up. Imagine the effect that Lee and Gaara fighting for Naruto would make upon Sasuke.
Regardless, flame away... seems to be the only thing Gotwoot has been good for lately.
-xtortout
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Originally posted by: xtort
I have to say that this thread has been 9 pages of utter shit. I had to sift through that many pages of DBZ-flames, when the arguing parties should have created their own thread for the argumentatively challenged, and fought it out with blowup boxing gloves.
There were a few gems though. Elessar's comment that brought up the point of the entire arc was exceedingly accurate, in my eyes. The whole point of this adventure was to prove the point... fighting for someone else is what makes you strong. It seems that every (good) main character in the story has learned the lesson except Sasuke. (Whether he's "good" or "bad" is up for debate now...) Most of the people learned that lesson... FIGHTING NARUTO. Hello?! *knock knock knock* Anyone home?!
My predictions for the next chapter... I think that the three-dot sharingan will be a possible negative when his sight fills with the probabilities of Naruto's moves. I have a vision in my head of tons of Narutos on a single pane surrounding Sasuke. Probably not though... just a Naruto-fanboy vision probably.
As far as long term, I'd love if Gaara and Lee entered the picture together to illustrate the point Elessar brought up. Imagine the effect that Lee and Gaara fighting for Naruto would make upon Sasuke.
Regardless, flame away... seems to be the only thing Gotwoot has been good for lately.
-xtortout
I'm not even sure why all these people are obsessed with the possessed-uber-Naruto. Visual effects like this have been done before (Haku fight, Gaara, and most noticably, the fight with Neji in the finals). Naruto has had this aura before, or at least a similar one. I'm beginning to think most of this DBZ flaming is actually uncalled for because we're all just wrong about that last panel.
The rest of this battle will probably be a battle between the main theme of Naruto, fighting to protect someone, and fighting to gain power. Sasuke may very well come back (as far as he's gone though, I doubt it). Sasuke may not even *want* to fight Itachi after he gains full power over his potential (which he reached at this point by evolving his curse seal). Naruto is fighting Sasuke to protect Sasuke from falling into evil. I do not think Sasuke will ever hold a candle to Naruto again.
I also believe that no matter what, Sasuke is going to run. If he wins, he's succeeded in gaining the power to kill (or at least match) Itachi at this point. If he loses, he'll only hate and resent Naruto and Konoha more.
Other than that, I guess we'll all just have to find out...
i dont think that sasuke will ever match itachi until gets the mangekyou. im ready to see naruto and sasuke go on seperate paths. i think that sasuke is meant to be the embodiment (sp?) of everything that is oposite to naruto. if he changes now and goes back to the leaf it would be a waste of the past year, but as this fight continues to prolong the more confident i am that it will be interupted. if so, i really hope that sasuke finds another way to get the mangekyou. well, at least we can look forward to sasuke going level 2 at the end of the next chapter.
itachi set sasuke on the path of hate on purpose knowing that sasuke would end up the same as him if he followed it
itachi will never acknolage sasukes strength and will never seek sasuke out for the purpose of killing him(unless it is for an alternate reason) it will be sasuke always chasing itachi
If Naruto starts using that gay-ass Kyuubi form in every fight to win, he, and the series will suck ass. Just like DBZ did. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
People who want Sasuke to become evil.. Dream on. It's not going to happen. So far, everybody in Naruto who's fought against him has ultimately changed their ways. I think it's lame that they do, because a kid yaps his mouth, but oh well.
Sasuke going a different way (like on a different journey), I see happening though. When people in these types of series get a reality check, they tend to go on long journies to figure things out. (but then come back immediately when there's a crisis heh)
Anyways. Next fight, the Sharingan won't be able to keep up with Naruto. Probably because Kyuubi is directly involved in the fight this time, and he might emit a different set of moves (like X-tort said), making it impossible to predict. But then he'll come back level 2 and kick Naruto's ass. Not sure when Kakashi will come around, but he'll be there somewhere.
1) I never said Sasuke is going to stay evil (and if I did, I'm sorry for contradicting myself) But he probably isn't going to be 'good' at the end of this arc. Lots of series have done the whole rival thing, and Naruto and Sasuke are clear rivals. Sasuke has more skills and Naruto is pure raw power. Rivals tend to hate each other. Sasuke will come back, just not anytime soon.
2) I've really really seen enough of the endless Itachi fanboys. Yes, he's powerful. Yes, he can probably destroy most of the chunnin and several jounin single handedly. Yes, the whatever-its-called-I-don't-want-to-bother-to-spell-it-anymore-super-sharingan is really really powerful and I don't want to hear anymore about that either. Itachi fanboys have begun to use the Mangekyou sharingan as an excuse, to say that Itachi will never lose. Itachi has blatantly stated he CAN'T beat more than one sennin level ninja.
3) If anyone should be fawning over a really strong character, it should be Oro. He, crippled, but with a little help from a jounin level, took on the other two sannin to a stalemate. And has killed a Hokage (it was an old one though). In Sarutobi's defence, and Oro's I guess, Sarutobi killed two hokages himself in that battle. Oro with not cursed hands is one of, if not the most powerful characters so far. I still hate him though...
Stupid Itachi fanboys, we don't even know the extent of Sasuke's lvl 2 seal...
Explain how people should be fawning over a really strong character like Oro, but not stronger than him, like Itachi? Itachi is just cooler than Oro. He's nothing but a pedophile gimp (or used to be) who has a lame purpose in life.Quote:
Originally posted by: Ryllharu
3) If anyone should be fawning over a really strong character, it should be Oro. He, crippled, but with a little help from a jounin level, took on the other two sannin to a stalemate. And has killed a Hokage (it was an old one though). In Sarutobi's defence, and Oro's I guess, Sarutobi killed two hokages himself in that battle. Oro with not cursed hands is one of, if not the most powerful characters so far. I still hate him though...
Stupid Itachi fanboys, we don't even know the extent of Sasuke's lvl 2 seal...
Edit : And no, I'm not an Itachi fanboy. But, I'd rather fawn over Itachi, than Oro is all I'm saying.
Again, I was making a suggestion that a lot of Itachi fanboys are fanboys because Itachi is so strong. He is cool, but he's not some invincible, unstoppable force. Neither is Oro, but he's really strong in a similar way Itachi is. I know why there aren't any Oro fanboys, because he IS a "a pedophile gimp (or used to be) who has a lame purpose in life." I was just hoping to persuade some recent joiners from joining the army of Itachi fanboys and find a more unique character for a favorite (one that probably isn't the strongest character, that's too DBZish).
I'm just sick of every single thread turning into an Itachi thread. What happened to the 684+ post Itachi thread where all the fanboys used to hang out together? All too many threads lately have been "OMGZ!!! NARUTO IS NO CHANCE TO DEFEAT ITACHI!!!!! ITACHI WILL MANGEKYOU THEM ALLZ AND END IT NOW!!!!! ITACHI TOTALLY WILL PW0NZR SASUKE!!!" Yes, I am thoroughly aware this is a exaggeration, but it is sadly not that big of one.
I'm not going to reply to any responses to this message unless they are actually about chapter 230, to prevent this from becoming too much of an Itachi thread (yes, I know I started it). Whoever wants the last word on this little issue I've brought up can have it.
Note: the comparison to DBZ is not necessarily an insult. Admit it, you know you watched it too.
dbz is the shit and you all know it.
you know.....sasuke could very well become the next biggest villian of the series....
perhaps the "last boss" so to speak....
Just to mention didn't Gai leave before kakashi? to look for lee... i can see him coming in before kakashi gets there, just to surprise. Esp. since Gai hasn't done any major fighting yet, its a very viable possibility
wait he did? i dont remember gai leaving.....
edit: xtort if you dont like it then dont post here anymore [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I'm just saying that if I were to choose between JUST Itachi and Oro, it would be Itachi because of said reasons.Quote:
Originally posted by: Ryllharu
Again, I was making a suggestion that a lot of Itachi fanboys are fanboys because Itachi is so strong. He is cool, but he's not some invincible, unstoppable force. Neither is Oro, but he's really strong in a similar way Itachi is. I know why there aren't any Oro fanboys, because he IS a "a pedophile gimp (or used to be) who has a lame purpose in life." I was just hoping to persuade some recent joiners from joining the army of Itachi fanboys and find a more unique character for a favorite (one that probably isn't the strongest character, that's too DBZish).
I'm just sick of every single thread turning into an Itachi thread. What happened to the 684+ post Itachi thread where all the fanboys used to hang out together? All too many threads lately have been "OMGZ!!! NARUTO IS NO CHANCE TO DEFEAT ITACHI!!!!! ITACHI WILL MANGEKYOU THEM ALLZ AND END IT NOW!!!!! ITACHI TOTALLY WILL PW0NZR SASUKE!!!" Yes, I am thoroughly aware this is a exaggeration, but it is sadly not that big of one.
I'm not going to reply to any responses to this message unless they are actually about chapter 230, to prevent this from becoming too much of an Itachi thread (yes, I know I started it). Whoever wants the last word on this little issue I've brought up can have it.
Note: the comparison to DBZ is not necessarily an insult. Admit it, you know you watched it too.
The Itachi thing isn't that bad anymore though. Everyone's all gone past the Itachi fixation, and back toward Kyuubi Naruto nut hugging. You and I know that the Kyuubi crap is WAY more overrated here than Itachi ever was. It always has been, and will be, until somebody manages to get past it. Hell, even when Kisame overcame the chakra,people were still deifying it.
The DBZ thing is an insult, to people who got tired of the formula. (read thread to learn what it was)
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Originally posted by: Hotsuma
People who want Sasuke to become evil.. Dream on. It's not going to happen. So far, everybody in Naruto who's fought against him has ultimately changed their ways. I think it's lame that they do, because a kid yaps his mouth, but oh well.
No its not lame. In naruto the charaters are acually HUMAN with real emotions. I mean look at Zabuza(sp?). He was evil he killed for fun he called himself a demon. But near the end he died crying because his friend haku died. Protecting him and everyone else. I think this style of story telling is more real then some of the other idiot badies out there. Who have no real purpose other then to kill and cause chaos.
You think it's real. I don't think it's enough. Whatever.
just wrong. even without the mangekyou sharingan, itachi can pretty much wipe the floor with everyone that has been introduced except for the sannin. the reason why itachi is never gonna lose to anyone is because the only person who can and will beat him is sasuke. if that doesn't happen then sasuke's entire storyline goes to shit. also, what's wrong with not being able to beat more than one sannin level ninja? sannins are pretty much hokage status in terms of over skill/power. being even able to beat one of them is incredible.Quote:
Originally posted by: Ryllharu
2) I've really really seen enough of the endless Itachi fanboys. Yes, he's powerful. Yes, he can probably destroy most of the chunnin and several jounin single handedly. Yes, the whatever-its-called-I-don't-want-to-bother-to-spell-it-anymore-super-sharingan is really really powerful and I don't want to hear anymore about that either. Itachi fanboys have begun to use the Mangekyou sharingan as an excuse, to say that Itachi will never lose. Itachi has blatantly stated he CAN'T beat more than one sennin level ninja.
actually, you're stupid. if you talk so highly of orochimaru, then why don't you think about when orochimaru said that itachi is even stronger than he is? also, orochimaru did not end in a stalemate in that sannin fight. he lost. kabuto got the shit kicked out of him and so did orochimaru. don't try to ignore the facts when they are right in front of you. sorry to break your bubble but itachi is the strongest character right now.Quote:
3) If anyone should be fawning over a really strong character, it should be Oro. He, crippled, but with a little help from a jounin level, took on the other two sannin to a stalemate. And has killed a Hokage (it was an old one though). In Sarutobi's defence, and Oro's I guess, Sarutobi killed two hokages himself in that battle. Oro with not cursed hands is one of, if not the most powerful characters so far. I still hate him though...
Stupid Itachi fanboys, we don't even know the extent of Sasuke's lvl 2 seal...
also, what does sasuke's lvl 2 seal have anything to do with this? do you think level 2 seal will be enough to beat itachi? no, idiot, of course not. sasuke is obviously gonna realize that this quick method of getting stronger isn't the right way to become truly strong. if sasuke does beat itachi with the level 2 seal, then all of that stuff kakashi told him and naruto's ability to change people's hearts will all go to waste. i don't know how you're not even thinking this through.
why is this dbzish and why do you need persuade anyone from being an itachi fan? don't be mad cuz your favorite character is either an idiot or a weakling (you probably like rock lee).Quote:
Originally posted by: Ryllharu
Again, I was making a suggestion that a lot of Itachi fanboys are fanboys because Itachi is so strong. He is cool, but he's not some invincible, unstoppable force. Neither is Oro, but he's really strong in a similar way Itachi is. I know why there aren't any Oro fanboys, because he IS a "a pedophile gimp (or used to be) who has a lame purpose in life." I was just hoping to persuade some recent joiners from joining the army of Itachi fanboys and find a more unique character for a favorite (one that probably isn't the strongest character, that's too DBZish).
the fact is, the only way to beat itachi is via mangekyou sharingan. is there ANY other technique that can counter/defeat it? no. it's like how the sealing technique was the only way to beat kyubi (i'm not saying itachi is strong as kyubi, i'm just making a comparison between which technique is needed for a certain person). and don't bring up gai's dumbass method of fighting against sharingan users.Quote:
I'm just sick of every single thread turning into an Itachi thread. What happened to the 684+ post Itachi thread where all the fanboys used to hang out together? All too many threads lately have been "OMGZ!!! NARUTO IS NO CHANCE TO DEFEAT ITACHI!!!!! ITACHI WILL MANGEKYOU THEM ALLZ AND END IT NOW!!!!! ITACHI TOTALLY WILL PW0NZR SASUKE!!!" Yes, I am thoroughly aware this is a exaggeration, but it is sadly not that big of one.
respond back, i know you're itching to.Quote:
I'm not going to reply to any responses to this message unless they are actually about chapter 230, to prevent this from becoming too much of an Itachi thread (yes, I know I started it). Whoever wants the last word on this little issue I've brought up can have it.
yes it is quite lame. and boring in the long run.Quote:
Originally posted by: GotwootNewbie
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Originally posted by: Hotsuma
People who want Sasuke to become evil.. Dream on. It's not going to happen. So far, everybody in Naruto who's fought against him has ultimately changed their ways. I think it's lame that they do, because a kid yaps his mouth, but oh well.
No its not lame. In naruto the charaters are acually HUMAN with real emotions. I mean look at Zabuza(sp?). He was evil he killed for fun he called himself a demon. But near the end he died crying because his friend haku died. Protecting him and everyone else. I think this style of story telling is more real then some of the other idiot badies out there. Who have no real purpose other then to kill and cause chaos.
@ hotsuma. maybe we are dreaming but if he doesnt this series will suck really bad. sasuke cut all ties to konoha when he left if he comes back now and everybody forgives him i will seriosuly kill kishimoto.
Thank you. I'm glad somebody gets the picture.Quote:
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
yes it is quite lame. and boring in the long run.Quote:
Originally posted by: GotwootNewbie
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Originally posted by: Hotsuma
People who want Sasuke to become evil.. Dream on. It's not going to happen. So far, everybody in Naruto who's fought against him has ultimately changed their ways. I think it's lame that they do, because a kid yaps his mouth, but oh well.
No its not lame. In naruto the charaters are acually HUMAN with real emotions. I mean look at Zabuza(sp?). He was evil he killed for fun he called himself a demon. But near the end he died crying because his friend haku died. Protecting him and everyone else. I think this style of story telling is more real then some of the other idiot badies out there. Who have no real purpose other then to kill and cause chaos.
@ hotsuma. maybe we are dreaming but if he doesnt this series will suck really bad. sasuke cut all ties to konoha when he left if he comes back now and everybody forgives him i will seriosuly kill kishimoto.
Badass guy : "I must kill everything! The world sucks!" (or anything anti-hero)
Naruto : "No! You can't kill! It's just not right! Change your ways!"
Badass guy who is no longer badass : *cries* I'm sorry, I was wrong.
Naruto : "Let's go eat some ramen."
Villains are meant to stay villains. Neji was MUCH cooler as a "villain." Gaara was more character as a bad guy. (but when he came back, he was still fairly cool, because of how dramatic it was) Zabuza was an AWESOME bad guy who had all the right parts to being a good villain. Until Naruto came in and pussified him.
Maybe I'm just a cynical person. who knows.
i agree on neji, i dont care about zabuza since he was going to die anyway but i still think gaara is badass even tho he is a good badass. i just hope naruto wont suceed this time with sasuke cause sasuke is seriously much better as an evil character. he was a real pussy when he started to turn evil and in the whole process of it but now once he got some more strength and is evil he is cooler and i think he is better as a character if he is evil. there are far to many good guys and to less evil guys.
I actually think Sasuke made a pretty good good guy. When he took the blow for Naruto against Haku, I thought it was a pretty cool thing to do. "I don't know why... My body just acted on it's own... Idiot, Naruto.."
That was a great scene.