Did you notice that Kurisu automatically said that he shouldn't call her Christina and she is not his assistant, when he never ever called her his assistant in this timeline?
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Did you notice that Kurisu automatically said that he shouldn't call her Christina and she is not his assistant, when he never ever called her his assistant in this timeline?
That's right. However, like Buff, I wanted a minute of actual epilogue where we see them together, and who the heck Dar's wife is.
I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xelbair
They've established that even normal people without Reading Steiner can start having their past selves/memories creeping up on them. Okarin's been calling Kurisu "Christina" for the past 3 weeks non-stop, but he's only saved tried to save her twice, once unsuccessfully.
Then again, you can include the memory of Kurisu from Beta before the very first D-mail, and perhaps the last (two?) time they were in Alpha where Kurisu learns that she dies in Beta.
I think your argument holds more weight though, even if I don't feel 100% convinced.
Yeah I kind of did wish for that too. Maybe that's what the ova will be for.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
After a bit of thought, I feel pretty good about it now actually. Feel much better :D
Daru's wife is Mayushi, or Braun's daughter.
Deep inside I feel like Moeka is the best option, but for some reason it doesn't work in my mind since she's been killed in one of the alpha lines, not allowing for Suzuha to come to the world.
What about Feyris? She is his target, after all.
Mayushi, Moeka, Feyris ->those came to my mind in that order, but I could never convince myself 100% that it was any one of them because of the possibilities. Mr Braun's daughter?! Will she make it in 7 years? (6 years, 2 months or so for a closer approximation).Relationship-wise no one beats Mayushi, since they're all friends and she doesn't have a crush on Okarin (and/or ignores Daru by doing so). Physically, Feyris shares the same front fringe as Suzuha. The only other person to share that is Kurisu (and she in Beta). It could be just a design thing though.or a haircut.....
What if Suzuha did not really disappear, and she was her own mother?
That would explain why she wants to keep it a secret.
I vote Moeka, in spite of the paradox we had when she was killed by Braun. I'd have to check though on that point.
Why?
Because Moeka is the only one having combat habilities up to par with Suzuha's in some lines. The scene where they are at each throat point blank is my basis.
I could still be wrong though.
I thought it was Moeka at one point because she also had brown hair. (browser stopped me from making that edit when I posted previously).Quote:
Originally Posted by David75
That's pretty screwed up, lol. Genetically speaking that can't really happen, and didn't she say that there would be a time paradox should the two of them meet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinta
I was joking.
The spoilerish visitors at RandomC posted a picture of Daru's wife the other day ;)
oh.. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by shinta
I saw a post on ANN that said Daru's wife is revealed in the game too, but they were kind enough to black out the spoiling bits. Since I have no idea what the movie is about I'll wait a bit longer, but your expression screams Feyris to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zell
Look at the eyes, she has Mayushii's eyes, with Daru's color if i remember it right.
Her father had her pinned down on the floor and was throttling her when Okarin interfered. While it's an open question whether that means anything, the truth is that Christina knows her old man the best. She was clearly living in denial before this event, wishing to believe he would happily cooperate with her and share the credit. It's likely seeing him crazily stab somebody right before her eyes opened those very eyes for good. So, even without any memories of other timelines, she could have thanked Hououin. However, the last scene strongly suggests she has some vague feelings, like has been said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
You don't stay in a foreign country and wander around to just thank someone because it probably won't succeed anyway. You have to have really strong feelings towards that person, even if you can't remember why. This bears more weight with Christina because she is rational by nature.
Yes, I don't disagree, but as rational and scientific as she is, she's also a romantic. A true 100% adherence to rationality and logic would prevent her from studying time machines and also would have prevented her from staying with the wacko group for so long in the other timelines. Not to mention she did have those dubious hobbies/interests she tried to hide from the others. In other words, if she was a robotic slave to rationality, no matter what kind of unexplained feelings had tried to keep her in Japan, she would have instead boarded the plane to the USA.
Finally got time to marathon this in two days. Definitely one of the best series I've seen lately. I'm a big fan of time-travel/parallel words, so the story behind Steins;Gate intrigued me from the very beginning. The opening episode though hooked me even more, given the "WTF" element. Throughout the rest of the series, I kept wondering what the significance of Kurisu dying was, only to have it wrapped up quite nicely in the end.
The one thing I am confused about though is when Okabe was able to ascertain that the timepath Kurisu dies in was the Alpha timepath. Sure, it was the original one that started it all, but couldn't it have been just another Beta timepath. I was under the impression that the Alpha timepath (or, going past the 1% divergence meter) was something along the lines of impossible to do, even given the impossibility of the series itself. They kept explaining it like he needed to keep going and push his way there, but in the end he had already been there and he had to make his way back. Maybe I'm just not understanding it clearly.
Can't wait for the movie. Here's to hoping it's a continuation instead of a retelling.
First ep, alpha line.
Okabe sends first D-mail
Then Beta line.
Last episodes, Okabe tries to open steins gate, to be in another line where he doesn't have to choose between Mayu or Kurisu
That's how I get it.
Ugh, I just read that this is from the maker of Chaos: Head? Well, I liked that show (except for the disappointing development towards its end). The feedback to the first two episodes doesnt sound that exciting, but I guess Iīll see by myself.
It's a LOT better than Chaos;Head. I can't stress that enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
I dropped Chaos;Head halfway through but enjoyed this show from the beginning till the end.
Chaos;Head probably would have been better if it was spread across 24-26 episodes.
I liked it well enough though. Been too long, so I can't remember if I was content with the ending or not.
Steins;Gate wraps up almost perfectly in my opinion. I'm not quite sure why the feedback on the first two episodes doesn't sound exciting to you, since there is a major "wtf" moment in the first episode alone. But I guess it depends on the viewer. If you liked Chaos;Head though, you'll like Steins;Gate.
Nah, the problem with Chaos:head was that it started out as this interesting, psychological otaku-drama, but then turned into a full-fledged Sailor Moon-like fantasy-plot. Aka, I liked it better when it was uncertain if the main characters delusions were real or not.
Anyway, still have to watch SG episode 1.
Episode 25
Awesome epilogue.
Yeah, it was a good extra episode. Okarin was as crazy as ever, Christina as tsundere as ever.
Daru's wife was an out of the blue revelation, though...
It's a great twist. Everyone kept guessing wrong and rationalizing relationships among introduced characters when the obvious answer based on the daughter's looks is this one.
Now Daku will either meet her in a Rainet event by himself or through Okabe when they start the "you chased me across the desert one time" convo. Time paradox!Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
This ova provided a more satisfying closure for Okabe/Kurisu, but in my eagerness for it I didn't tune in to the comedic first half as much.
It wasn't unexpected, but I liked how they ended the episode with the sudden cut after the assistant's 'Close your eyes' command.
Cliffhangerish, most "logical" reasoning would imply it was the kiss Okabe so longed for, or in my comedic mind..a slap o.o was never truly revealed what she did, so to each their own i guess, on that note...anyone think it's good as it is? or think a Sequal might be possible? (they could come up with a "problem" 7 years in the future or something if ya ask me, such as Okabe fucking up the future by meeting that woman in the desert endangering the daughter's "existence" and must somehow be "corrected" or something along certain lines ._.)Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Time travel stories really cannot 'end' with finality because of the nature of the theme. I am already satisfied with this ending, but I am the type that loves characters over plot so my answer will always be I want shows that I like continued. The only exception to this would be Chrno Crusade.
That was pretty good, the way progress was constantly being canceled out via d-mail was getting very personally annoying but having those unclear dreams really saved the show for me. It wasn't meaningless, not all of it anyway.
I also enjoyed the ending and epilogue, after all the bulshit they wen't through it was about damn time fate worked in their favor for once.
Watched ep 1, thanks for the recommendation.
While I enjoyed it overall, thereīs on BIG problem I have so far. I should be used to that since Im not new to anime, but still: So the opening scene shows a very young doctor. Next to him an even younger, clueless moe-girl. And they soon meet a similarly young girl that publishes her articles in science magazines. WTF?! Yeah, yeah, in anime and JRPGs, itīs always young people that save the world, but come on! The world of science is a world of older people because it takes time to gather the required knowledge. I could accept the fairly young doctor, but the girl? Sigh. Pandering to the otaku audience.
Anyway, will keep watching.
EDIT: Ep 3 finished. So I take it Kyouma isnt a real doctor, just making up stuff. I really like the similarity of his character to the protagonist of Chaos;Head. Totally deluded in his own crazy world. The only thing Iīd like to know now is how he sustains this life of his. Where does he works, how does he get money for a living?
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ep 16 watched.
Fantastic show. So far. What I hope to see adressed, though, is the fact that while Kyouma stays the same, EVERYTIME he leaps back in time, he forsakens his friends in that world line. Because every time leap creates a new world line with all the more or less subtle changes he set in motion. Thatīs what I donīt like about this showīs concept and I cannot see a non-tragic end because of it. Like, even if Kyouma manages to save "everyone" in the end, he should realize "Nobody here is the original. I sacrificed hundreds of friends to create this one ideal world line ..."
Well, I donīt want anybody spoiling me anything, so Ill just go watch the rest.
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Finished the whole thing.
Great anime, but last episode was completely unneeded. Did they have to fill that time slot or what?
Kinda disappointed that the anime didnīt respond to what I mentioned earlier: It might be a happy end at first look, buuuuut all those "failed" world lines are just as real as the one Kyouma ended up in. Just he has what he wanted: a world line where Kurisu and Mayushi are well alive.
But now there are dozens of world lines where Mayushi died, sometimes Kurisu, too. AND he left his friends behind everytime he leapt through time! Was it ever explained what happens to the body that stays in the present, while the memories leap back through time? Maybe body is left without a mind, maybe everytime Kyouma went back, his friends from that world line had to watch their friend die. And so on.
The only reason why it appears like a happyend is because Kyouma doesnīt think of all this stuff, or chooses to ignore it. Otherwise heīd realize: He didnīt save anyone but his own desires. And if heīd think some more, heīd come to a point where heīd say "fuck it all, itīs all meaningless". You know, because when anything happens, be it in this or that world line, why try at all? You know that in some world lines you fail no matter what. That the people you care fore have to suffer no matter what. That aspect is being ignored. And maybe for the better.
Oh, and wtf, biggest surprise at the end: Kyouma is supposed to be 18? What, were they afraid to have an older protagonist? I though heīd be something like 25 or older. He certainly looks it.
Do not double post in future. Consider this a warning. -Buff
it's a while since I read it but the visual novel had decent alternative routes and may have explored that notion( I can't remember for sure). Probably boring to read right after watching it but I'd suggest trying out the VN instead of rewatching the anime if you feel like rewatching it sometime later on.
I suppose it didn't matter to him. As long as he created ONE timeline that where everyone was safe, he was satisfied in knowing that somewhere in the universe there was a happy end.
Which was the "last episode"? The one where they explain Daru's wife? If so, that's an OVA that was added on at the end. The last episode from memory was the one where Kyouma faked his death.
ok, that makes more sense then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
Steins;Gate 0 episode 1&2 are out.
First ep is more a quick setup and character review. Somehow these are the initial parameters for that timeline.
But it was boring.
Second ep is more like I like my Steins;Gate
Hope we'll get some reactions in that thread.
Greatly enjoyed both episodes. This anime feels like a weekly emotional punch to the gut, though. I wanna hug Okabe and cry together ...
I've got to go back to RandomC and re-read some parts of the main story, but so far I agree that the first 2 episodes are pretty good. Kurisu dropped her politeness a little too quickly to be believable, but I'll tolerate it for the sake of getting on with the story.
We're still in a setting phase. We're not in an active one yet. The end of the ep was not a surprise, we've been warned many times.
Is there no thread for Zero? Anyway.
Crying. Gotdam. "But I like Hououin Kyouma even more!" had me break. :(