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The beta is actually listed on battlenet now and lets you do a system scan.. Last time I visited battle net a month or 2 ago it only had the opt-in options and not the sc2 icon.
I really can't wait. I saw a gameplay video of "scrap yard?" and it looked pretty sweet. It was a space setting w\ islands of land. It would be so awesome to work for blizzard on the sc2 dev team. (aside from the death threats from rabid fans who expected the game to be out 2-3 years ago ! )
the system scan was avaible 3 or 4 months ago Oo
yerrrp and im sure I failed. Might haveta buy a new setup for this.
ill be playing for a little while if anyone wants to do some evo or fastest; 'siccpro'
New battle report (i think )
battle report 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDwMPSFmHZs
battle report 2/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWsO4iq1e_A
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It's Terran vs Protoss.... I'm loving it. I like the nukes : )
I'm curious how many people have pre-ordered starcraft 2 over the past 2-3 years.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/bli...l#BOM_comments
Starcraft 2 Beta pushed to 2010... weak sauce. This sucks... I was thinking the beta would be out later this month, and then full release around february/march :(
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/bli...ablo,9515.html
new rumor that the beta may be launching soon.
Beta launched today.
Any lucky gotwooter managed to get an invite?
Shit, didn't get an invite (yet anyway) :(
HOLY SHIT!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y15BK1q2sqw
If I don't get an invite.... hopefully somebody has this cracked very soon. OMFG! OMFG!
got an invite.
muhahaha
downloading the game right now
but I wish i could play the singleplayer too :(
because I really sucked in SC1...
OMFG!!!!
/outrageous jealousy
just out of curiousity, i just went to ebay.... 18 people have beta keys listed @ upwards of $350!
i looked last week or the week before and there was just 1.
bad thing is that you have to sell your battlenet. account
I've got all my games attached to it and my WoW account too ^^
I bet some people who got the beta key at blizzcon also opt in for the beta. Those that got the invite to the beta can now just sell the key they got from blizzcon for profit.
i have 2 battle.net accounts, no invite though :(
How long do beta's usually run before actual game release? I'm taking it as a sign that we should see SC2 released by the end of the year...
I mean, they've had the game working for almost 2 years or more, as they've showed at blizzcon and what not. I'd think that they would have already worked out most kinks, and this beta should help them iron out battle.net under load.
depends
~3 months maybe?
or 4?
Wow beta ran for around a year if i remember correctly.
SCII beta shouldn't be too long. Most of the patching done will be to fix balance issue and certain bugs.
Bad Company 2 beta is 3 month long.
I doubt SC2 beta will take as long as an MMO game-beta (which is thousand times larger and bigger)
edit: played my first game against computer
it seems like there is only the "very easy" one avaible...
to sum it up:
if you got 3 zerkers....you won *cough* (he got like ~5 units and 5 workers after 10-15 minutes)
but his AI is really good (theoretically).
he blocks entrances with units or buildings (and uses them to trap u in his base too)
and he built a radar at the blocked "stone-path" (u probably saw that in a video... u have to destroy a few rocks before u can attack him from that side) and seems to move his units there if u try to attack from that side...
he retreats if u face him on open field and if he got a big disadvantage
and the best thing is
the comp says "gg" when he lost the game :P
I believe a comp on Hard or Very Hard(?) can be *really* powerful.
at least I hope so. they seem to use every trick in the book.
very nice!
Not that this is a confirmed date.... but bestbuy.com has it listed @ June 1st 2010.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/bli...ease,9755.html
Blizzard guy quoted saying that they think the beta will last 3-5 months, likely 3 months. July or before for the release date.
there is a cracked beta out somewhere, with some new AI (self created).
just 4 info
oOoOoOoOoOooOo going to google now.
I downloaded it last night but it was so late that I had to goto bed. I'll post results later on if I get it to work.
I got the cracked beta insalled yesterday and it works!!!
The download included a map pack, the beta client downloader, and a launcher program. Just have to install the beta client, and then put the launcher in it's directory. The launcher asks you for a map to open and it opens it, taking you directly into a game on that map.
I'm not sure if it give you a random race or not, as I only played one game.
There's something included to mod the difficulty of the AI. The computer I played against was .... on super easy I guess. It sent a single hydralisk early on to attack my base. Then when I went to attack they only had a few units.
Still.... pretty cool. it's alot different w\ the updated graphics from the original. Probably would get used to it after playing several games.
got my second key today, check ur e-mail, maybe someone is lucky and they sent out new invitations, my mail was a "Invite your Friend"-mail though.
The key is meant for people who is already in the beta to invite a friend.
Anyone happen to have an extra?
Are there any issues with the cracked beta? Or everything works just fine like the normal beta?Quote:
Originally Posted by itadakimasu
Gamestop is giving out free beta keys to those who preorder the game right now. Call your local Gamestop!
I just pre-ordered it from their website! I can't wait to play tonight !Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
The cracked beta just lets you play single player and the AI isn't really smart so it wasn't a whole lot of fun. It's cool to build all the buildings though, and test the new units out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekeco
* So...apparently the latest sc2 beta patch causes an infinite loop of the update program. So after waiting for so long, I can't play :( Bnet is down apparently too :(
got my beta key last night finally... gives me something to do while i sit at home recovering from my surgery. even though I only have this POS computer instead of mine for the moment its still quite a lot of fun even with the handicap of a slow comp.
anyone wanna play lemme knowww its Kage.sicpro
Starcraft 2's Official Release date is set: July 27, 2010
Link to the news over at Gametrailers
Updated Blizzard's Starcraft 2 Official Site
I've been playing beta for 3 months now (legit, I was selected) and I love it, the changes and what not. It's really fun.
Got the beta from my preorder on gamestop.com. Initial thoughts...
This game is amazing. I was concerned by the introduction of immortals and reapers that the feel of the original might get lost by exaggerated paper/rock/scissor-ness of the new units, but it didn't really play like that at all. I can see potential for specialized strategies, although I definitely have to get more comfortable with the new units. Just like the original, though, this game is all about mass units.
My favorite part is how improved the micro-management is from the original. There were a lot of things I felt should have been in the original that weren't there, and my natural inclination when starting with this new version was to try them out. Amazingly, most of the tricks I felt should be there WERE there. Here's a few:
Rally to shortcut tasks:
It always felt like right-clicking rally points should behave the same way as right-clicking behavior for the units that are produced by those structures. For example, if you right click a marine to a bunker, the marine goes into the bunker. Now, you can automate this by setting the rally point of a barracks straight to the bunker. Even more significantly, however, is that you can set rally points of your home bases to resources, causing your drones to auto-harvest. This is crucial for multi-tasking your base's economy.
Structure grouping:
This is something I did a lot in the original, although to a more limited extent. Especially for zerg, I found it handy to assign number keys to my hatcheries, so I can quickly select them and spawn backup units for me while I'm busy with my army. However, previously, I could only assign one structure at a time, so if I had 4 hatcheries, I'd use 7, 8, 9, and 0 keys for each one. In this new version, you can assign multiple structures to a single number, so I could have all 4 of my hatcheries to just the 0 key. The beauty here, is that, like the way grouping worked with units in the original version, if you group similar structures, you can perform actions on all of them simultaneously. by clicking the select larvae button, I select the larvae from all 4 hatcheries, allowing me to easily micro-build my new armies. The protoss and terran benefit similarly, except with their queue structure, clicking on a new unit will add that unit to structure with the shortest queue. For example, if you select 4 gateways and click 'Z' 4 times, then each gateway will have produce a zealot. Massing units is super easy with this technique.
Grouped casting:
Along the same vein, smart-casting is now used by groups of units. In the original, if you had 6 high templar in a group, and casted psionic storm, all 6 would cast at the same place, which is a waste. Now casting only happens once per unit, so you can select your 6, and just click around without having to worry about overkilling. This is also handy for structures that cast. For example, the Nexus has an ability that speeds up production rates of structures. If you group all your Nexuses together, you can easily cast-click on all your active structures as long as a Nexus still has energy.
Well since i don't have the beta i don't follow this thread much, so have no idea if this has been posted. Tried to look back a few pages but saw nothing.
It's a series of videos called "I suck at Starcraft 2" made by TotalBuiscit who made a few funny WoW movies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Rv-s-7rNk <-- first one. Right now there is about 10.
Very informative to see and actually learn a little yourself. Specially if you are not that good yourself with RTS multiplayer where people rush you. I myself is a slow builder when i play RTS-games and play mostly against computers and when i play people only times i do good of any kind is when the others are slow builders too that love to hoard the mighty armies ^^
But since i actually plan to play SC2 on multiplayer it's time to learn how to rush things up a bit. And i find this very informative and entertaining too since he jokes around with himself and how he used to suck in the videos.
Oh and don't forget it comes in 720p def so use it ^^
That's awesome. I hadn't thought to try that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
They're going to close the beta pretty soon and perform some updates. Then they're going to open it back up shortly prior to the release of SC2.
Ok, here's some more stuff. This time about team management.
Resource sharing:
Perhaps one of the most frustrating limitations of team play in the original was that players couldn't give resources to each other. Well, now they can. There's a small icon in the top right corner that lets you give or request X quantities of minerals or gas, which is very useful if anyone is struggling or finds themselves with a large surplus.
Shared unit control:
Another small icon near the top will display a list of the players in the game. In this window, there's a checkbox next to each ally called "Control." Basically what this does is allows that ally to share control with all of your units and structures, sort of the same way Team Melee worked in the original. This is particularly useful if want certain allies to micro a mixed army of yours and his units, while you perhaps control a separate army or focus on your own base.
Last ally standing:
This is important to remember: In team battle, you're no longer out until your team is out, so don't just suicide your units if your base is overrun. Hide your drones in your ally's base. He can give you the resources you need to rebuild later. If you still have an army, keep them around and use them effectively. You still win if your team wins, so might as well stick it through.
Dropped teammates:
Teammates who drop early won't screw you over (at least not quite as badly) as they may have in the past. A dropped player will automatically grant control to all allies, so their base and army can still be managed just the same as if the player was still there. Of course, it's much harder to micro two bases than one, so it still sucks when this happens.
I`m still waiting on a beta invite :(
you had(!) plenty of time to preorder the game on amazon, recieve a beta key
and cancel the order later...
however from what i've heard the beta is over @ the end of the month
and amazon was giving aways keys till 16th May.
Dominican Republic, i can`t pre-order cause i live in Dominican Republic
Unit command queuing:
To be honest I never did anything too advanced except scouting in the original SC with this, but I do know its been expanded upon in this new game. Like normal, holding shift and performing actions lets you queue up commands for each unit. However, now there are more complex command that can be queued. A great example is with Terran tanks. If you're turtling your tanks towards an enemy base, you typically want to move your tanks individually so they can protect each other, however this can take up a lot of micro time. Now you can queue the whole sequence easily for each tank. If your tanks are already sieged, just do this: Press D, hold shift, click to the new position, press E, and release the shift key. D will unsiege, move the tank, and E will siege again. The beauty here is you can do this and focus your attention on the next tank or your marines right away without having to go back to the first one.
Another nice queue feature are for structure building for Terran. While an SCV is constructing a building, you can give it orders to build something else, and it will begin it as soon as its done with its current project. You'll already see the placeholder for the new building, making it easier to batch structures side by side.
Blinking large groups of stalkers up a ledge can be much easier using shift clicks as well. Select group of stalkers, hold shift, right click (move) right below a ledge, then click to blink up the ledge while holding shift still. The stalkers won't blink until they are right below the ledge.
watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ant4Wfc4b0
the cool thing is that units can wield 3 different (or more?) weapons now
so a rifle for long range, machine gun for burst, flamethrowr for close range
and now imagine
8 players, everyone chooses a different character
they barricade themselves somewhere
you hear one marine scream
"Zerg incoming, defend yourselves!!!"
everyone starts shooting and tries to stop the swarm as they manage to cross the barricade
"Fall back!" while retreating, the technican class runs up to the consoles and activates a few towers to cover their retreat and the heavy gunner jumps into the Goliath mechs and wreaks havoc over the zerglings
oh pls, someone create such a map ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4w1Xfdk5ZA basically just like this, only better and bigger
or maybe rebuild omaha beach and add a few comp-marines who also help defend against invading forces.
Zerg Rally Tricks:
As always, the key to the zerg is mass mass mass. Its important to not stop production even during a heated battle, and you'll likely want your backup to head straight to the front lines. Then again, maybe you'd rather keep them back in case the enemy tries to sneak attack while your army is out? Well in any case, rallying is the way to go. Here's a few things you can do with rallies for zerg.
1) Hatcheries have 2 rally points. I don't recall if I mentioned this already, but they do. One is for the drones, the other is for everything else. Just click on a hatchery, right click on a resource, and you'll automatically set the drone rally point. Click on a hatchery and right click anywhere else to set the rally point for your other units. If you group all your hatcheries, you can easily control their collective rally points the same way.
2) You can shift+click multiple points for your rally. Use this if you prefer your units to flank a destination from the side, rather than a b-line straight across. Especially handy for fliers.
3) You can override rally points for each unit. Just select an egg and right click on the map, a resource, an enemy, etc, and the unit will rush to execute its command. If you are massing units that you want to back up your army with, but don't want to mess up your hatchery rally points, just click a rally point after evolving the larvae before you select off them. Only that batch of units will arrive at the new destination.
Note: Another useful fact about rallying for all 3 races - units now rally via the attack command instead of the move command. This means you no longer have to worry about them ignoring enemies right out of the gate like they used to in the original.
The digital pre-download(prior to sales of digital keys on the 27th jul 2010) is available now for bnet account holders.
Just go thru the link from blizzard.com
Get yours today!
New trailer released!
HOLY SHIT
27th July cant come fast enough :(
Oh, July 27.. i thought it was July 22, damn :P
Gotwoot clan anyone?
My roommate and I have been practicing the beta pretty hardcore. I can get into the 1v1 gold league fairly consistently now. 2v2 is a bit harder for zerg, though. They tend to get ganged up on. :[
I've just preordered SC2. Playing beta was fun(even getting owned by my platinium league friend...) - i'm gonna stick to zerg once again.
Terran seems to be my best race. I was able to get into gold twice playing exclusively as Terran. I wonder if the hydralisk change from t1 to t2 building is affecting my gameplay. I couldn't get pass the bronze league playing as zerg and i used to be pretty good with them in sc1.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/c...namitedata.com
$47.80 after tax @ dell.com ($45 and free 7day shipping)
Gamestop cancelled my pre-order because I got a new debit card and i'd ordered w\ my old card number... saved about $17.
I see $59.99Quote:
Originally Posted by itadakimasu
I saw the lower price earlier today, now I see $60. I guess the sale is over or they realized they made a mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
sorry... i guess it was a limited time thing :(
Collector Edition for 80$
For people who still want to get it and don't mind waiting a few days.
I'm playing though campaign right now, got the game for 140pln(approx 43,75 USD).
Had the game pre ordered at a local store for 54€. But skimmed through some paper commercial before i left from work this morning and saw a big ad for SC2 29€ at a place 500 meters from where i work :D
Hoping to have my copy in the mail tomorrow :)
Gonna have it a few long hours. Till then I'm doing all I can to get this POS computer ready. Any suggestions how I could get it to run with less framerate lag? Already have the graphics driver upgraded and had all the settings turned down on the beta.
I hate you... I wanted to get one too but they are damn expansive here, way more than in the us/rest of eu...
ahhh so good. If only I had a real computer and not this giant applebox from the early 2000's.
who wants to play?
fliprowley89@gmail.com
The flash drive dog-tag is so badass. It's actually made of metal, and the orange part lights up when you plug it in.
I'm down to game: assertnfailure@gmail.com
Was gonna retire until I got back to my computer up north but I'll give it a go for some customs I guess.
Played the campaign a bit yesterday, thoughts so far...
Still as fun as expected. The missions serve well to stay fresh and unique, instead of the typical "turtle in, mass an army, destroy everything" routine. I wish there was more active involvement of hero units, though.
The in-between-missions mode feels a bit gimmicky to me. Most of the useful aspects to it (buying upgrades, choosing missions, etc) could have just as easily been accomplished with a simple menu screen. The extra dialogue doesn't seem to add too much to the story yet. You can choose your missions, which also affects what types of tech/upgrades you will have for future missions, but so far this seems to mostly dilute from the main storyline. I was perfectly content with the straightforward linear path of the older campaigns. The main storyline isn't quite as apparent, as you simultaneously focus on missions that seem to bear relatively small impact to its overall progression.
Interestingly enough, though, the game feels completely different than the beta. This is probably because half the units I've seen so far aren't even IN the multiplayer game. Its fun to play with some of the older units, and it serves to justify the transitional period of Raynor's raiders, since they are supposed to be "behind the times," afterall. Also, lots of pretty stuff to look at in-game as you explore the campaign mode. Easy to pick-up and play.
If anyone wants to play some 1v1s, add me dreamfield@gmail.com. Not playing tonight but will be on the rest of the week.
i'm game
If anyone wants to play add: luxi.darkblade@gmail.com (I have this email since elementary school and its for registration purposes only)
Anyone who is interested in playing me add: xzeroravenx@yahoo.com
I've just played the game against silver league guy(I'm doing placements) and that guy just basically walled himself in his base with cannons, tried to proxy gateway/pylon but did not attack using this, and basically he let me control the whole map. That low-skill guys are in silver? wtf?!
after walling himself in he tried to use void rays, but its bad idea to use 5 voids against 50 hydras(air was obvious after walling)
Oh, and i finished campaign. ending is interesting... :>
Man that was terrible. I can sort of play 1v1's but when me and Assertn tried to 2v2 the computer my computer completely froze and had to restart. This is torture having the game but not being able to really play. Seemed better during beta.... sorry for the bad games tonight steve :x
somehow I've won 16 in 1v1 tho hahahh
I don't know how i feel about the match making system. I'm not especially good and i've gotten to platinum several times. Maybe the brackets within a league itself needs to be better define? I feel like enough lucky match up vs bad people and you can get pretty far up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xelbair
My roommate is in platinum league and he got matched up with a bronze player...
and then lost...
Granted the guy 1-base 4-gated (aka insta-pro), but still.
what do you except so shortly after realease
I would expect that the system wouldn't be pitting platinum and bronze players against each other, for one thing.
Another thing is, how did such a good player ended up in bronze?Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
I've always wondered how the Zerg "base" room will work. It'll be interesting to see!
He flopped his placements for easier wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
I just beat the campaign yesterday, thought some people on some sites bashed the story, I throughly enjoyed it. How about you guys (for those who beat it already)?
I'm curious how HoS will play out.
after beating the challenges and gaining that fine piece of a spectre-portrait I got confident enough to do my placement matches
ended up in platium league with 5-0 stats
I'd like to stomp some comps with you guys, add KrayZee (Character code: 837)
edit: I didn't like the story *that* much
it was ok though.. basically only ~8 out of 29 missions (or 26) had to do with the plot.
the rest were merely sidequests.
the ending was weird as it could get, i still don't have a clue what this artefact exactly does (and even more WHY it does what it does), where it comes from and why everyone knew about it and why the protoss didn't use it before.
Sentenal.295 if anyone wants to add me. Currently Platinum in 1v1 and 2v2, hopefully will make Diamond if I keep playing.
I liked the Campaign, except Kerrigan was a bitch, one-shooting my Siege Tanks, and using that Darkswarm/Plague thing to kill all my Marines. She forced many restarts.
Yeaaah man, silver league in 1v1. Started to think it would never happen. I think I would be in platinum or at least gold if I had a computer with at least minimum spec's. Every time I click it takes .5 seconds to react to it. Soooo I figure I'm moving about half the speed of everyone else -____-
I wish I didn't have a full-time job and real obligations to be able to get to diamond league.
I got into gold again as with my initial placement in the beta. I played two gotwooter so far and got owned pretty badly so i guess gotwoot level is pretty high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
you play on US servers? can't add you :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentenal
Oh yeah, US Server.
If you are US Server as well, Sentenal is the character name, and 295 is the character code or w/e.
In general, how good are the people here that play, and what races to you guys play? I play mainly Protoss.
Just got placed platinum in 1v1, and my roommate and I upgraded to platinum in 2v2.
Bam.
Great game, just finished the single player mode.
lol I am so awful at this game. must be a myth that poker players are good at rts. I've won 4 so far, lost 10. I guess I'll have to watch a ton of replays to be able to grasp this game.
You should go online and read strategy plans for the game. I think it takes some of the fun out of it, but if you're playing online, it's not really for fun, it's life and death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xrlderek
No way, learn your own strategies as you go. If you cant handle the losses that comes with getting better you shouldn't play. Its more rewarding that you hone your strats each game and make it that much more efficient.
Make a lot of miners
Build units early; not too many
Get a decent army quickly; while also expanding for heavier units.
If you don't know what units are strong against others you should play the single player challenges. They have stuff that teaches you how to not suck in there.
or just press the "help" button
which shows every unit's strengths and weaknesses
and a decent buildorder solves most problems.
i personally believe protoss is the most easiest race to play, because a 2 gate opening and gate-push is strong against every matchup
except for a good terran when he's going for a marauder push (strongest t1 unit by far)
You're just reinventing the wheel at that point. Starcraft strategies are a science developed over years by professionals. It will take you 2 years to learn your own strategies that will allow you to survive long enough to learn anything anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemane_no_Jutsu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_J9eo5RPUIQuote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Kagemane_no_Jutsu: Watch some of these videos and you'll see how much this game has been dissected and examined, even with SC2. Trying to learn the game by trial and error and developing new strategies on your own is a huge waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
Starcraft 2 doesn't have the crazy learning curve that Brood War had, but it still takes alot to get good at it. The most important thing you can possibly try to improve on, is your mechanics. That is, your scouting, your micro, and your macro. If you can effectively do those, you can simply adapt your strategy to whatever is going on in the game. And if you need specific strategic advise and don't mind people mocking you, TeamLiquid.net has a really big strategy forum, and lots of good players.
Also remember about day9 netcast - While his commentary is not so good as Husky's but he makes really great analysis of what's going on, where to expand, etc etc.
http://day9tv.blip.tv/
I talked to a platinum member and from what he says, you really need to know what all of the buildings are, what all of the units are and what they are best for. You need to scout a lot and see what your opponents are building so you can tailor your builds to beat them. He mentioned how some of the pros will even build decoy structures to make you think they're going one direction but it's a ploy. He also said you have to see what their SCVs are doing, ie. if they are collecting a lot of vespene gas right off the bat then they are planning a certain strategy and you need to be able to counter it.
Yep, also a lack of tech in their base could suggest hidden tech, or in the early game proxy structures or cannon rush.
Don't think in categories "unit X counters unit Y" - you can counter terran mek by striking from many places at once, by avoiding the army and going for base, etc - its slow as hell, same goes for protoss stalker+immortal+colossi.
Its good to know which unit is strong against which, right, but there are other weaknesses you can exploit that are not shown in counters section of help menu.
Al least that's what i got from day9 dailies and from my friend (diamond league player)
Definitely don't want to rely solely on any one source for strategies and unit information. I just think the likelihood that you will learn something like an undiscovered strategy or unit strength/weakness just from playing the game is not very high. Most if not all of this information is already available. I think you'd use your time more wisely learning something beyond the basics and what works best for your playing style.