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nice, now i got something to look forward to when i get home from work [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img].Quote:
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All I have to say is this: Excellent. Take the raw emotion of the last episode and times it by 3.
pretty much what he said.Quote:
Originally posted by: EpyonNext
All I have to say is this: Excellent. Take the raw emotion of the last episode and times it by 3.
*if you havn't seen espisode 24, skip the rest of this post*
This espisode surprized me, before this espisode i thought he was gonna stay on the Beam's ship and meet up with Gekko-Go, but its looking like its gonna be the otherway around. Overall this was a very emotional and good espisode imo.
Also, how does Nanashi release there espisodes? Do they do it in batches, or just whenever they got time?
Episode 24 = Great
Holland seems to be coming around from being a total punk bitch, this makes me happy as I was growing tired of hating him.
Skip Below If not seen 24
The scene where Renton and Charles are in the hangar hugging was so sad, the kid had finally found all the happiness he'd been looking for (except his girl) and we know it's all going to be ripped away from him somehow.
What was up with Ray saying they approached Renton knowing who he was and where he had come from...
A) what a mean thing to say after the kids heart is already broken.
B) why then did they approach him then: to get info? to bring him over from the 'bad guys'? any ideas?
Blah Blah Blah.....Skip if you havent watched ep-24...slacker.
Unsure, but it's dead apparent that Charles and Ray did care about Renton. Thats what really made the episode heartbreaking.
They said that so that Renton wouldn't feel any attachments to them, but he seemed to see through the lie, doesn't really matter though, the outcome would be the same.
If anyone hasnt caught upto episode 24 then its their fault. Hurry up!
Renton has a very hard life. All the good things in his life come and go so quickly.
Finally Holland has come to accept that Eureka choose Renton to pilot the Nirvash. Both of them are needed to awaken its true potential.
Just watched up to episode 11. I'm glad this show is getting a little more serious. It was a bit too goofy for my tastes earlier on, but around episode 8 the plot picked up. There are some absolutley hilarious characters in this show, and the animation is marvelous (even if the fights are a little one-sided as of this point). Its got good music as well. I'm sticking with this one, will take me a little while to catch up though.
edit: this show rocks, all caught up.
Come me mate! Its better than Black Cat and Blood+ that we are watching right now.
i caught up! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] intresting that Chrales robot dun need a boarder
Hi guys .. wanna say thanks 1st cos ur discussions made me watch the show xD .. thanks again
What u guys think Holland will do when he meets Renton ?? And how bout Eureka when she sees Renton ?
The Renton-Holland meeting will be awkward as hell, I doubt Holland will say anything positive to Renton, he'll probobly just remark at how the Nirvash and Eureka need him, and that he should come back. Renton-Eureka...just plain awkward, and those damn kids might screw it up too.
Haha those kids always screw things up .. still remember the part that Renton used a toy mouse to lure them away from Eureka's room ...
Hmm... A very good series altogether. Watched all the episodes so far released in a few evenings. This seems to be one of those somewhat poignant (in lack of a better word right now) series that go a bit overboard with the psychology of the mental development of youngsters (and a few people not so young anymore...). It bothers me sometimes, but with this series being otherwise so very rewarding, I sure can stomach it like a man... No wonder why many have mentioned it as one of the best series of 2005.
For some bizarre reason it's always so moving to watch a previously robot like young person to be awakened to real human feelings (no sarcasm intended. I really mean this.)
What will Holland do? Kick Renton's ass. He rarely does anything else... I hope Eureka will encourage Renton to be more aggressive like the buddies have suggested. You know what that would mean, of course.
Man!! finally caught up!
okay 1st... Holland was really getting annoying, and was somehow hoping that Renton would stay with Charles are Ray and somehow destroy the Gekko-Go (yea! sorry for Eureka but still)... however, hopefully Holland is changing and well, things are going to get interesting either way (with Charles and Ray and the Special Forces bent on taking over the world)... anyways... it was slow to pick up but this show is now DAMN good...
one thing though... seems that ex-military people take Gekko-Go style ships as souvenirs? are they really better than the flying wings the army uses? anyways, even at mid-season there is so many questions unanswered (i mean, we don't even know what his father did) that... this is cool!
Perhaps those Gekko-Go style ships are mainly used by special forces. And I think Charles and Ray's ship is significantly smaller, also. It has just a crew of two, after all. The flying wings look easier to build and maintain, anyway = that's what military wants.Quote:
Originally posted by: Darknodin
one thing though... seems that ex-military people take Gekko-Go style ships as souvenirs? are they really better than the flying wings the army uses?
Ep 25 not out, yet, but does anyone know, where i can find Winamp skins based upon Eureka Seven? ^^
Ep. 25 is out!
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I dont think this has been posted yet, sooo.....
The series is already up to Episode 37, if you want to see how far along Nanashi is with the translations(they are catching up), check http://forums.nanashi-fansubs....ndex.php?showtopic=728
Just an FYI for anyone who wants to know.
Not terribly much happened in ep 25, but it did contain some tidbits. There are still many mysteries in that world, so it's not bad at all they have episodes like this.
Pile Bunkers are weird...
Despair is weird...
really... and Will is weird (more so than Eureka i say)
That's all I could say about the content of this eps...weird.
It made for a good transition of the reunion Renton will be making in the next eps, right before what I assume will be a big battle.
That makes me wonder though, that there is another option in the fate of Renton's sister. We all assume she is either missing or presumed dead, or confirmed dead, but the Gekko-Go crew that knows about it is keeping quiet. Remembering that Talho was recruited from a hospital Holland found in god knows where, so maybe Renton's sister caught herself a case of Despair and is similarly tucked away in a hospital. Just random speculations, its a good possibilty.
Moreover, what the hell is going on with that weird book? I think the title is 'Golden Bower' or at least that's what it looks like to me. Holland reads it, Dewey reads it, and they flash it randomly during the eps. You get the feeling that whatever it's about is something big.
With the appearance of Anemone and theEND this series has gotten so much better.
First 7 episodes were just too goofy and silly for my tastes. Now I am seeing why this show is so talked about.
I expected the episode to be good, but holy shit. That fucking owned all.
Awesome, Awesome, Awesome, so good, Renton pwns all even though he's really Kira Yamato in disguise. Is anyone else beginning to think Ray is an evil coniving bitch? Just an observation I had.
This episode certainly was worth waiting for. I'm just wondering how powerful Nirvash will become. If Renton and Eureka can already singlehandedly take care of a large fleet, there isn't anymore much left that could really oppose them.
I have to say I have no idea what Ray wants. She could be evil, or perhaps not. Certainly she wasn't evil when Renton was living in their ship. I'm far from sure of what she was planning in this episode. The preview showed something sinister, but details remain to be seen.
I thought this episode was great. Holland's being immature, Eureka finally going out and looking for Renton on her own, Charles' commentary. The Rainbow Sea was also a beautiful setting for this battle, just wish there was actually more of a battle...
There was one big drawback: Renton Thurston has entered the ranks of "I don't kill enemies, I just disable them from being able to fight." Kira Yamato in disguise for real... Have protagonists who are willing to admit that sometimes killing an enemy is necessary gone out of style in Japan? If I have to watch Renton disarm enemies for 24 straight episodes... How the hell is a LFO unit supposed to navigate the Trapar if its head (where I assume the sensory devices in the unit are) is gone? That's like saying"I'm not going to kill you. I'm just going to blind you while you're riding a great big surfboard thousands of meters above the ground. Good luck." How naive thinking like that is supposed to be the mark of a true hero I have no idea...
Charles: "To show compassion while flying around a battlefield... You're going to die, Renton... You're too soft." Now that man speaks the truth! *
* truth may not hold up in shoujo anime.
I can only hope that this show doesn't fall into the same crap fest of "A true hero never needs to kill anyone" that has plagued numerous mecha series. That is bullshit. A true hero won't kill unnecessarily, but he will do so when it's the right/best option on the table. Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
Don't get me wrong, I still think this show is pretty awesome. That is just one of the complaints I have with some of the popular mecha anime. I'm glad that Nanashi is getting episodes of this show out again.
-I didn't even know Eureka could ref board. Apparently, she's really good at it too.
-Ray grabbed her stomach before she said that Charles knows what she wants. That motion itself seemed pretty sinister to me. I have no idea at this point what that means, but it has a lot to do with Eureka apparently. Eureka 7's animation is really great because a lot of things are tucked away in tiny animation details, instead of cyptic dialogue here and there. (I also liked the way Talho was messing around with her hair before they moved in to attack, it was a really natural motion, something subtle that you usually don't see.) That's why this is so far one of the greatest series I've ever watched in my decade or so of anime watching.
-The last 26 eps are, if you think about it, all build up. Now we get to the parts of the series where things really get messy. Charles and Ray after...whatever she's after, Dewey and Anemone, the mystery of Renton's sister, and somehow the cause of everything...Adrock Thurston.
Even if Renton is starting to turn really soft, we still can't forget all the weird shit that hasn't been addressed since it first appeared.
After the time Renton launched off the Seven Swell, (what appears to be the polar opposite to whatever the two of them did this time), an expeditionary team went into the space around it, where a Corelian would later form. They were slaughtered by what I can only assume were LFO's using solidified Trappar as weapons.
I can only assume that Renton may be forced back into mortal struggles sooner than he would like.
Also, with an LFO as powerful as the Nirvash, which apparently possesses total dominance over all LFO's, KLF's anything Trappar related (Seven Swell and the new one that even peels off reflection film i.e. Skyfish skin) fighting may not even be necessary. There's an old samurai saying that details among the strongest samurai, a fight's outcome would be determined before it even began, and going through with the fight is really only a waste of one of their lives. With Renton and Eureka both in it, the Nirvash appears to be totally dominant over everything. Why bother killing when you know you have the power to kill anything at anytime?
Yea... I agree... with all what you guys have been saying. certain things I want to point.
1- ANYTHING can happen. Renton not killing anyone might change really fast (as he showed when he was with Charles).
2- What the hell are LFOs anyways? they look alive and well there is a good mystery there.
3- Holland will become a bad guy? I could see that happening (well more is, i hope this happens or something similar to that.)
4- Nirvash is overpowered now, but that doesn't mean anything. first there is the TypeTHEend, then there might be others like it. and it seems that the military is not going to be enemy #1 in the end so... lotsa things can happen!
I think Nirvash, typeZERo was the first LFO they discoverd/made. So it is very strong and its strenght is only matched by that other LFO which that crazy girl piloted. It was called somethingEND.Quote:
Originally posted by: Kraco
I'm just wondering how powerful Nirvash will become.
I think they are alive. The power of the LFO are based on how strong the will of the pilot is. Remember the first episode when seven swell phenomenon happened. Renton didnt know how to activate it. He was just thinking about protecting Eureka. Also that amita drive might be some kind of interface between humans and LFOs.Quote:
Originally posted by: Darknodin
2- What the hell are LFOs anyways? they look alive and well there is a good mystery there.
Kira Yamaro and Renton. A very good observation. Yes, whats happened to the old trend of killing your enemies or the new generation of heros are becoming soft.Quote:
Originally posted by: masamuneehs
Renton Thurston has entered the ranks of "I don't kill enemies, I just disable them from being able to fight." Kira Yamato in disguise for real...
@ Ryllharu : Yes, I agree with you totally. This anime is keep on topping my chart of favorite animes. The animation of this show is really smoth and natural. Those little details are well refined.
Special recap ray=out of the first 26 episodes...
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Removed link to 4th Op. After watching it about 10 times I saw a huge fucking spoiler.
-EpyonNext
So, the recap was all Eureka Seven we get this week?
Damn, I hate recaps...
If they can make good on their claim that the real story is only now about to begin then i'll take a recap episode.
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So, the recap was all Eureka Seven we get this week?
Damn, I hate recaps...
Quote from Nanashi's website
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27 is nearing completion.
Ah, cool! If that means they will also release it as soon as possible, and not use it to build buffer...
Episode 27 & 28 Released
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28 : http://bt.nanashi-fansubs.com:...ea79ca5c9a639ff69fd802
Haven't watched the eps. yet, but it looks as if they are gonna leave the clock in:
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EDIT: Good episodes. Points to Ray and Charles on the Sam Fisher gear. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
quite excellent episodes - nice to see they keep raising the bar
Slowly catching up with you all, I finished ep9 yesterday and am really liking Talho.
It's getting more and more serious. I like very much the fatalistic attitudes of the SOF. Somehow suits them very finely. And it's also nice how they aren't afraid of blood in this series. Although it remains to be seen if it only bleeds freely on the opponents' side, or if we are going to lose somebody also from the Gekko-Go crew eventually.
NO NO NO NO, give me back my OP2 you useless bastards!!!! I definately didn't see the Charles situation turning out that way at all, can't wait for 28 to finish dl...
Wow, episode 27... that was some wicked stuff. For a mostly mecha anime this episode sported some really good covert ops and stealth battle. Holland was friggin scary as hell early on in the episode, and Charles...
Man, that was just raw. Using the gun to lift up the bulletproof vest and firing off until there's nothing left, raw. And the end, holy shit, if it already wasn't messy enough...
I also got the feeling that someone from the Gekko-go will die sometime in the future, it just seems to always happen that way around the end of season 2 or beginning of season 3 in anime. One important character from the bad guy's side dies, then one from the good guy's. My money is on Moon-doggie or Stoner getting killed, especially after Stoner's words in 27.
Some questions I hope are going to be answered: What is going on with the Nirvash? Is it permanently linked with Renton/Eureka's minds now?
What exactly is Ray's deal with childbirth and how did it get that way? (answered in ep. 28)
Is Eureka even a human being? Ray certainly made it seem like she wasn't...
Episode 28, here I come!
Oh,and I concur on the generally negative consenus about the new opening.
Edit: I love the small visual effects that they do so well in this anime. The expressions on people's faces say more than most dialogues, gestures are usually meaningful. Best of all, as someone mentioned recently, is the small details that are done so well in this show.
I love that the blood wasn't all washed off from the Nirvash. At first you see just a smudge on the white paint in the blurry foreground, then they go to a long-shot where you can see the whole Nirvash, including the arm that is still bloody despite obviously being washed. Then they cut to a running shower. Then to the messed up inside of Charles/Ray's kitchen, and what is in the very center of the initial shot? Spilt tomatoe sauce all over the floor. Slow pan up towards the empty table. New shot: focus on the table from above, everything white except for the RED condiment tray in the center. Next shot: inside the refrigerator, a slow pan downward ending on uncooked meat. Oh the visual innuendo's are beautiful in this show!
28 was great as well. Damn this show kicks some major ass
Ray's humming throughout eps 28 was some of the most unnerving and creepy background noise I've heard in a while. Once she started that, I knew we'd seen the end of her by the end of the eps.
What an amazing end at that! I expected LFO/KLF combat, and we actually got ship to ship close combat. Ken-Goh has to be the greatest gunner in the entire world. Not only did he help Talho move the Gekko-Go out of the way, he hit Ray with one.
Most touching of all was Ray reaching for her severed arm to grab the ring. Very moving. I'd seen things like it before, quite often actually, but this time it actually came off really well. Ray seemed so small as she was struggling to get to it.
Ray was sterilized when Adrock Thurston and researchers, whom I can only assume Eureka was a participant in, set off the first Seven Swell with the Nirvash. Ray blames Eureka, the only reason I can guess is because Eureka must have been present, and piloted the Nirvash for the test.
Talho's reaction to Renton being the only available donor was very interesting. Talho is obviously sore about Diane and Holland's relationship, whatever happened there. I'm hoping that we'll find out what happened soon.
Renton clearly trusts and loves Eureka enough to tell her everything about him. But Eureka doesn't want to tell him about the horrible things she's done.
Finally, who are all the people in the ending? I recognize Maeter (she's obvious), and I think Talho and Anemone, but they are draw strange, as if Talho is in high school and Anemone is in her 20's. I suppose the last one must be Eureka, similarly drawn older.
They should've had Ray and Charles kill at least a couple Gekko-Go members. Half of them have are just filler characters anyway. I don't even remember the bald guy having any lines before this. Also, those three kids are probably the biggest downfall of the show. They need to be killed asap.
EDIT: Double post happened due to laggyness.
Where have you been? Good guys can't die in anime! That's what the villains are for. Seriously though, I agree that Ray and Charles WOULD have killed some Gekko State members, but they were all hiding. Ray happened to run into Talho, who was with three big distractions (Renton, Eureka, the children). Charles ran into Holland. Considering those matchups I don't see how the outcome was unrealistic.Quote:
Originally posted by: badass
They should've had Ray and Charles kill at least a couple Gekko-Go members. Half of them have are just filler characters anyway.
No way Jose. Maeter and Link do get annyoing at times, but Maurice I like. He is more mature and I think it is going to become really important that he didn't rush to Eureka's side (halfway in episode 28). I think its going to get to Eureka.Quote:
Originally posted by: badass
Also, those three kids are probably the biggest downfall of the show. They need to be killed asap.
Just watched episode 27 and 28... Both great episodes...
Holland kicks alot of ass... He didn't think twice about killing Charles... 3 or so bullets to the stomach, it was awesome...
I wish Renton would've killed Ray himself though, or maybe even Eureka... that would've been great...
We want more, more..mooore!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Holland was great in these espisodes, when he lifted the vest and started firing without second thoughts was awesome, and when Ray trashed the place I liked how well detailed and drawn everything was, also when she was trying to get to the ring it just brought up another emotional level. Awesome espisodes altogether.
There was one of the bombshells. I knew it was going to be something like that, but I didn't at all expect exactly that.
Really big drop in animation quality, but if they are going to save their budget on eps like this, where only the dialogue matters, I'm fine with that. I'd rather have crap eps now, and the end of the series look great, rather than see their budget die right before the last ten eps.
After watching episode 29...
Yeah, it was a fairly good episode... I didn't really notice the drop in animation you talk about, but whatever... We knew that Eureka had some sort of connection with the Coralians, but I never expected for her to be one... I wonder what that says of Renton, since I remember Holland saying that no one exept Eureka had ever witnessed the "dream world" Renton experienced when he went into the Coralian...
I think what the military and Holland were both implying is that neither side had ever managed to get into the Coralian. Since Adrock believed them to be sentient, then that probably means a great deal about Renton, since that would imply that Renton was accepted by that one into the dream world.
Also, if Eureka is one, that must mean that in some way at the least, Anemone is one. Maybe that has something to do with her psychosis and why they pump her full of rage medicine all the time. Was she torn from their world where Eureka was willingly given to this side? Or is she some synthetic military made one?
The thing I noticed early on was Eureka has a red circle (usually appearing as cresent moons, unless her eyes are fully open) in each of her eyes, whereas Anemone has a single red slash through each. I wonder if there is any signifigance to that difference. It makes them both similar and different for sure.
When Renton went into the Coralian, did Dominic also went into it? Or did he just went to get Anemone after the Coralian was over?
Didn't he just go afterwards, to get Anemone back? Well, I don't remember that well anymore. But a nice episode nevertheless. I suppose an explanation like that was evident. I always thought Eureka would be some sort of hybrid, but she seems to be a real thing. But there is a definitive difference between her and Anemone for some reason. It looks like Anemone isn't quite stabile, so maybe she's a hybrid, imperfect model, or synthetic like Ryllharu said.
Who were those three guys who reported about Dominic? Is the military spying its own agents, or were those some rebel dudes reporting to Gekko State?
Probably the military themselves.... Gekko State wouldn't bother with such a small fry... And the main importance is Dominic saying "How can I possibly report this?" which means that when he goes to report he'll be caught in a lie...
I always knew Eureka wasn't human. The extent of her "not being human" was the only thing I wondered about. The fact that she can speak with the Nirvash (which is probably another conscious being), was almost absorbed by the Skurve in the old mine (a sorta 'come back home' phenomenon) and just her general behavior were pretty big hints towards her being Coralian.
I wonder about the difference between Compac Drives and LFOs, between Eureka and Anenome (I think she's also Coralian, but like Ryllharu suggested, one that was forced into human form) and whether Coralians are all of the same conciosness or not.
Compac Drives seem to be like souls/spirit compacted into a fuel source, like Mako in FF7. LFO's remind me of Evas. They're certainly alive, but why do they have those forms if their natural state is frozen/stuck in Skurve (back to the cave episode again)? Were they once walking beings, or the first attempts of Coralians to take on human form?
I think Ryllharu hit the Anenome/Eureka thing right on the head. The difference in there eyes... I've often wondered myself. Has anyone else noticed that Eureka's red circle changes depending on her moods?
Close-ups of Eureka in this episode are only when she's upset. Further back shots show no "red" in her eyes when she's neutral or in a good mood. Could just be lack of detail...
6:20 - Renton has just gotten upset about Charles and Ray. Eureka says she feels her 'choosing' Renton over Holland is why Holland killed the two. The "red" in her eyes is a half circle, thick at the bottom.
18:47 - Eureka is very upset, talking one on one with Renton about her being a Coralian. The "red" in her eyes is almost a complete circle.
Eureka "chose" Renton. What do you all think that means exactly? I think it was that she "chose" him to enter the Coralian, where no human has been before. Like the Coralians presented Eureka in human form as a show of their good-will to Adrock, Eureka brought Renton back to show the Coralians that some humans can co-exist with Coralians. Holland has flaws that would have made the Coralians restless if he had been presented. Also... Diane, Renton's sister, appeared for a flash in the Coralian. I think that indicates she may have been there ahead of time. If I had to guess I'd say she was "the first diplomat". I wouldn't be surprised if it was her that suggested to the Coralians that Eureka be created in human form. Just my guess.
If I remember correctly Domic did NOT go into the Coralian. He didn't appear in any of the 'dream' sequences there, only afterwards in the crater. Those guys trailing him are probably not from Dewey's squadron (as I always got the feeling Dewey trusted Dominc), but I'm betting on the other military.
I like how they subtly hinted at Dominc being followed early on in the episode. He is at Adrock's memorial and suddenly looks around. But he doesn't see anyone. That was a good one.
Also I liked how after Talho's rant and revealing everything they drop back to a shot of the kitchen and the sign reads "Today's Recommendation."
Moondoggie's reaction to the sparkling bathroom was also hilarious.
Ahah, I forgot about Moondoggie's reaction. He screams like something horrible has happened, and then you see him cleaning too.
I always thought the changes in Eureka's red circle was because her eyes were either wide open, or some variation of half-lidded. Interesting theory though. Do Anemone's change their angle relative to flat? It should be easier to tell because the mood-swing queen changes about 10 times a minute.
As for their two particular shapes, it's neat to note that a circle and a line are about as opposite as two objects can be. One implies completeness, and the other does not. (This is kinda obvious, but I felt like pointing it out.)
I like the idea about the exchange with Eureka and Renton, but I always got the feeling that something worse than that happened to Diane. They didn't seem too emotional about the Coralian, as if something bad like that had happened before, more that they just wanted to make absolutely sure they got into it first.
They are Special Ops soldiers (or were). They wouldn't be emotional even if something bad had happened. Like Talho said, it's not some happy family onboard Gekko-Go. Besides, who knows if any or many of them were actually present right there when Diane supposedly went in.Quote:
Originally posted by: Ryllharu
They didn't seem too emotional about the Coralian, as if something bad like that had happened before, more that they just wanted to make absolutely sure they got into it first.
I think we're jumping to conclusions about Diane going in. She was in Renton's vision, yes, but so was just about everything else. Hell, those three girls in this eps were in it as part of his class before they turned into whatever. Important things to Renton were in there, along with a lot of messed up stuff (that came from Anemone).
Renton's sister is pretty important to him, its no surprise she would show up.
Also, the members of the Gekko-Go do get emotional about Diane. Holland gets really weird when he starts thinking about her, and Talho gets really angry about her, and when Holland is thinking about her. If something happened, they'd show it on their faces.
It doesn't even matter that they were special ops. Holland loses his temper ALL the time. Talho gets really pissed off at the dumb shit Renton does, and she gets infuriated at Holland too. Hell, Gekko State wouldn't even have existed if it wasn't for Eureka and Holland getting emotional and going AWOL in that city.
Yeah, you are right. I worded that really bad. What I was trying to say is that even getting emotional wouldn't stop them from doing or trying to do something, because of their background.
If Eureka is a Coralian and that Scab/Skurve goop was what she came from or whatever, then how is it that those religious people know how to fix her? Might they have some type of religious connection with the creatures? As they said, the plot thickens more and more now. And I think Anemone was an attempt to clone/copy whatever Eureka is in an attempt to study/comunicate with/conquer the Coralians.
We learned about Eureka this episode and from the preview we should learn more about the Nirvash next time. I hope it turns out to be some cool lifeform like a baby Coralian or something, we'll see.
Just watched episodes 27, 28 and 29. I think you guys have covered every aspect of all three episodes.
This series has given us more questions than answers. Finally the truth about Eureka has become avilable. Now its Renton's sister turn.
Episode 30 is out!
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So, if I understood correctly, Holland is all worked up about Renton's family because Diane disappeared after she left him. Renton is starting to get a little confused about Eureka's Coralian origins, and putting her off at a slight distance in his mind from time to time. He keeps seeing something else in her. The rest of the time he continues his protect her absolutely vow.
And Dewey plans to attack the Scab (formerly called Skurve) directly? Is this to stop all the earthquakes and other natural disasters that Adrock started up when he decided to make contact with the Coralians?
I don't know if I like the new (or is it old?) Talho look. The OP and ED has grown on me a lot though, so I guess we'll see.
Well this episode sucked... mainly because of Talho...
She went from super hot, to just a dumb broad...
Talho's new look is weird, it makes her body stand out more, though it's not as obviously hot as the old getup, and the hair just plain sucks. If these scientists we able to figure out all the nerves in these aliens, essentially making them cyborgs, when are we going to see all the human cyborgs that should have been created from similar research? Cause if there's one thing any show thrives on, it's cyborgs.
I hope they make Nirvash look different than before somehow, not just the same old, same old.
Well 30 wasn't the best E7 episode yet, but it addressed some things that were bound to come up eventually.
I also don't like Talho's new look. Then again, Eureka has also gotten uglier, and I think the creators are going for a 'the positive changes need to be made on the inside' kind of thing. This can also be seen in how Ray and Charles were always so into keeping their ship clean and neat, while the Gekko-go, whose forces were superior in the end, was usually messy and more chaotic. I also think the 'Inner beauty' being released is sorta the design behind the beauty of the Seven Swell. If this isn't just my imagination, then I wouldn't be surprised if the next version of the Nirvash is uglier than the old one. Better looking or worse, it will still be superior to its past self.
I'll never get over how poorly military technology is guarded in anime. Not even a single KLF platoon to guard your top R&D base? The scientist knows exactly what the commanders are going to use the weapon for? For crying out loud he just TOLD Holland what they were developing!
I'm really intrigued by what's going on with Maurice. Told ya it was going to be a big deal eventually.
I also don't get what exactly Dewey hopes to gain out of attacking the Skurve (Scab). From the episode preview it looks like a massive air strike. But won't that just really fuck up the planet that humans still have to live on? That guy needs more screentime so we can figure out what the enemy is really up to.
A decent episode. I have no bigger problems with Talho's new looks. So much have changed for the crew of Gekko-Go that it's no miracle some crew members feel the need to change themselves, also externally. And I think a good show with a strong plot won't be any worse if the characters aren't only designed so that the audience can leer at them. In my opinion while Talho certainly didn't get any hotter, quite the contrary, she didn't get ugly either.
Whilst Masamuneehs does have a point about the lack of visible defences of the R&D facility, the Gekko-Go got in through peaceful means, in the end. We don't know what kind of weaponry they had there. There could have been also KLFs in some hangar. And of course they had those strange new weapon prototypes...
If there was any military personnel stationed at the Tresor R&D base they must be the worst soldiers in history. The Gekko-go, with or without fake landing codes, is an easily recognizable ship. Hell, letting any ship in general land at your top R&D base is idiotic.Quote:
Originally posted by: Kraco
Whilst Masamuneehs does have a point about the lack of visible defences of the R&D facility, the Gekko-Go got in through peaceful means, in the end. We don't know what kind of weaponry they had there. There could have been also KLFs in some hangar. And of course they had those strange new weapon prototypes...
There couldn't have been any military people at Tresor because they would have done SOMETHING upon seeing the Gekko-go. They certainly wouldn't sit by and allow their resources to be used to restore the biggest threat posed to them by their greatest human enemy. What kind of military just throws an important job to a group of engineers and then doesn't leave an officer to oversee the progress? Dewey must be low on men or plain stupid...
Maybe they were just military contractors, responsible for their own safety. Actually you proved that yourself by saying there weren't any purely military personnel present: That means it's not a military base. It's just a research and development base making stuff for the miliaty upon contracts. Chances are they would never ask for armed forces to be stationed there; They looked like people happy with their independence.
edit: fuck, pics don't work.
Not going to add to the discussion much yet. Just wanted to say that I started this a little while ago and am at ep 13, and damn but if it isn't a pretty good series. Probably take me a while to catch up on it, but that's a good thing :)
Episode 31 is out.
http://bt.nanashi-fansubs.com:2710/t...a20d5b.torrent
finally caught up with this series...i must say..this series is so damn good..
Yeah. What a tender moment between Renton and Eureka... And of course true to the anime traditions, it had to be disturbed. Damn, you could really see how Renton gathered and accumulated all the courage he could possibly muster to this moment, and then it had to go to waste. What a damn pity...
But damn I hate those twisted kids that every now and then pop up in anime. Now I'm talking about that troupe the military is employing. It's not like their job (whatever it might be) couldn't be performed by some experienced soldiers. Or is the thing they are doing so unethical that only brainwashed kids would possibly do it without hesitation (that is, be stupid enough to do it)? Doh, if it was so bad, they should let a computer do it. Would probably be cheaper.
This Show Delivers!
Thoughts on 31:
Loved the contrast between Eureka's talking about bloody hands and Renton's literally oozing cleaning product.
Bear is hilarious. I said something like his theory before, and I believe he's very close to the truth of why Eureka was sent by the Coralians.
Ageha squad: badass. Granted they are an anime cliche, but man nothing's more sinister than an evil child. I also think that Dewey needs people equally insensitive to others. Children are selfish, easily influenced/brainwashed, perfect for this plan. Jet Black said it best, "And, really, there's nothing more pure and cruel than the mind of a child..."
Was Dewey coming on to that sage? I love how he provoked an attack by the Scab Corals to get humans on his side. I can only wonder how nobody (Dominic!) figured out he and the Aghea Squad was behind it? plot convienence...
Noticed something interesting. In the flashback when Eureka finds the 3 kids Link looks to be unconscious, Matear is crying so hard her eyes are shut. But Maurice is staring straight at Eureka. Goes a long way to explain his growing distant from her.
You heard it here first: Dominic and Anemone will defect from Dewey's squad. Dominic cares too much about the girl, and Dewey seems to be more interested in the Ageha squad right now.
While I agree about Dominic I think Dewey has a stronger hold over Anemone, even if he doesn't need her now eventually he'll have to field some LFO type offense, and theEND is probobly his ace. Dominic will probobly try to take her with him but she won't go.Quote:
Originally Posted by masamuneehs
this show kciks ass! it rule you!
but why Talho change hair? she sooooo hot before!
Talho dressed like that because she was trying to get Hollands attention with her sexuality. Holland didn't care about it, and she knew that in order to be the supporting hand that she wanted to be for Holland, she didn't need to dress so skimpy.
On a scale of 1 to 10 this episode scored a PWN.
Another good episode. Damn those half crazed children soldiers are becoming hateful characters, at least for me. I don't know how those soldiers can stand to take orders from them. Perhaps Dominic can't in the long run, and will hit the road. theEND doesn't appear to have a chance against Nirvash, so it's hard to say what happens to Anemone. And it's also noteworthy that Anemone has a separate personality when injected with the medicine, and that makes it even harder to predict what she might do. Probably only simple things and decisions, in the end, based on her behavior, so it shouldn't be too hard for Dominic to manipulate her enough to get her out of Dewey's direct control.
Quite excellent episode indeed.
Kind of curious to see what exactly happened when Nirvash avoided? theEND's missile barrage.
The more this series develops, the more I'm thinking it's going to be difficult to end it at 50 episodes - at least it should mean it remains a fast-paced series till the END ;)
done in as close to real-time as it gets, obviously i Pause alot to take in big scenes and to think. On average I spend 40-50 minutes watching an episode of e7, including typing this. There's so much to be appreciated that just watching it straight through isn't enough, too easy to miss things:
7:03 - Confirmed: Members of the Ageha squad have no souls. "1 head, 1 torso, 2 arms, 2 legs; that counts as one body"
Those gigantic missing holes were the Scab Coral attacked... Festums (Fafner) all the way
7:05 - Confirmed: Axel Thurston is one kickass old man.
7:07 - Hmm: All new scenes start with a pan down onto ground level?
7:08 - Wow!: Little kid just pissed himself. Coralian eyes... wow...
7:10 - Axel Thurston: its the one that says 'BAD MUTHA FUCKA' on it!
7:12 - And now we know why he is always flying kites. See comment directly above.
End A part thought: Where the hell did Axel's friend come from and why didn't he get more screentime earlier?
Part B start- Now the scenes start going from the ground up towards the sky: Human attack (first, from sky), Coralian attack (second, from the Planet)
7:15 - Hmmm: That radio operator looks so much like a character from Cyborg009
7:19 - Frown: Anemone's attack did no damage? I don't like that...
Big smile: Brought back the first OP song.
7:20 - Eureka and Renton: HADOUKEN!!! Anemone: Pwned.
7:22 - See note from 7:10
End Reaction: One kickass episode. Axel Thurston is the fucking man. I don't like the Nirvash getting that far ahead of _theEND, but I figured something like that was bound to happen. Seriously though, Dewey had better have something huge up his sleeve to counter with or Eureka and Renton are going to kick his ass (without killing anyone of course)
I also lost count of whether the direction of the camera angle panning from up to down and vice-versa was what i thought it would be or not. I noticed they'd sometimes switch between locations and do a different opening pan, but alot of major events opened with the pan.
I say: "Axel Thurston" You say: "BAD MUTHA FUCKA!"
I say: "masamuneehs" You say: "BAD"...........................thats not right, again
I say: "masamuneehs" You say: "BAD MUTHA FUCKA!"
Never have I seen so much in depth review by anyone. Not that Eureka 7 doesnt deserves it. You just went an extra mile. You are right that there is too much to be appreciated and it isnt just worth watching straight through. You certainly need a moment to pause and think about what just happened.
That was funny seeing a Hadouken.Quote:
Originally Posted by masamuneehs
Although the second opening was awesome, the third is started is starting to grow on me along with the new ending.
Human and a Coralian?
What would their children be like? Nirvash? ( Not robots obviously but the core structure of Nirvash like)
Just going to quote you again. Why? I loved it.
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Originally Posted by masamuneehs
Assuming they even could reproduce, it would only depend on whether Eureka is what she is because she developed that way from the beginning or whether she was somehow molded from ready material to human shape. If she indeed developed that way right from the beginning, the offspring would obviously be more human than Eureka and a little less human than Renton. In practice, quite human. If she was just artificially made to look like a human, then it's more likely they couldn't even reproduce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadugar
Has it been told if Eureka was a baby in the beginning? If she was and then develop to her current form over time, then it would indicate the human form is her natural form, and it would give better chances for the family Thurston to continue.
Check episode 30. When Renton and Eureka meet the doctor at the Tresor facility Eureka recognizes her and says, "This is where they brought me when I was discovered." And then there's a shot of Eureka, semi-covered in Coral, and quite obviously older than a baby. Renton's voiceover uses interesting words, "That's right... Eureka was discovered as a Coralian."Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
It's the 'as a Coralian' thing that makes me feel she's just using a human form. The Scab Coral have been seen in numerous different physical forms, (the most interesting to me is still the Trappar that attacked/crystallized the miltiary KLFs way back when) and since they 'appear' and 'disappear' from the planet it seems that any physical manifestations of Coralians are not their natural form.
The only possible exception is the Nirvash and all the other LFOs... In the cave it certainly looked like the Nirvash-like forms were growing quite naturally in that form, indicating that they do have a fixed physical form and can not 'disappear back into the planet' as easily as the Scab Coral.
Glad to see you guys like the show. If you want any clarification from episodes 33+, or anything in general, let me know. I will try my best to answer it :P
You are icealchemist from Nanashi right?
Welcome if you are.
Episode 32 was awesome, but the "Renton, I'm falling apart, what do I do?" act and crying from Eureka is getting a bit tireing. Good thing Talho was there to slap the heck out of her.
Yes Eureka did need a good slap, and the kid pissing himself after looking into Eureka's eyes was priceless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budweineken
And yes I would be from Nanashi :p
oh, look what the cat dragged in? Abandoning the Nanashi forums for this one Icealchemist? I can't really blame you ;)
As someone who sees episodes of e7 more times before the release than most of us ever see in our lives I'm sure your comments and clarifications will be most helpful in the future.
btw, what's the deal with the Nanashi torrent tracker? Is it going to limit releases that badly? What donation goal are you trying to reach?
edit to below: my bad. i still don't know shit about the tech stuff.
There is no deal with the tracker, it was the archive bot that is close to overages on bandwidth. We already reached our donation goal for the year, but if we can get more we would like to get you all another server to either serve files on irc with or seed the bit torrents. As of right now we have a little over $2300(USD) in donations.Quote:
Originally Posted by masamuneehs
*is clueless to why episode 32 went un-noticed for the most part*
On release day the torrent never got to over 1000 peers.
That was indeed a good detail. It gave a lot of impact factor to the kid's terror.Quote:
Originally Posted by icealchemist
That's quite intesting actually. We know in the beginning Eureka was a remorseless killer in the Spec Ops squad, and later on she has also shown clear lack of emotions and understanding of emotions. Only later she apparently acquired any deeper feelings, after Renton entered the stage. However, despite having those feelings and emotions now, she still doesn't know what to do with them or how to follow them. I see it so that Talho brought her back to the real world from going overboard. Thus it didn't (yet) bother me that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budweineken
Wow,ep 32 had so much pwnage that i'm right there next to that kid cleaning my pants.
Since it hasn't been mentioned...Nirvash Spec-2 (Is that the proper name for it now?) is awesome. Zeta Gundam with a Kamehameha/Masenko-Ha/Dragon Slave/insert favorite anime projectile. Everytime I looked at the new Nirvash I thought how it didn't look all that different from the original, then when I saw the new board I figured that was the big change...then I saw waverider mode (forgive me I've been watching Zeta this week ) and seven swell On-DEMAND and I went nuts.
Though this has been mentioned, Axel is sick, just a balls out fantastic charachter. THough unlikely, I hope he somehow meets up with the Gekko-Go so he can be awesome even more.
Eureka's guilt over the actions of her 'bretheren' seemed well done to me. While it did make her a bit whiny she reacted in a very believeble way considering she probobly could see through the eyes of the Coralians that killed all those people. I assume she'll learn to communicate with them and try to get them to not take Dewey's bait, causing a rather large setback in whatever he's planning. Dewey is just plain crazy, why is he stirring up Coralians in inhabited areas...does he plan on having the human race wiped out along with the Coralians and starting over with just him and his crazy little girls? This series brings it so well, I can barely believe its real.
@Icealchemist, thanks to you and your group for all the work you put in bringing us this show
I thought Dewey was doing that just to get public opinion against the Coralians and in support of a war against them. The public doesn't know those were provoked attacks, after all. They only know suddenly large hordes of Corallians appeared and attacked everything that moves (and don't move).
Since it's not Dewey working alone but the military alongside him, there needs to be some reason the military also accepts. Even if it's a corrupt military. But for the military to annihilate all the civilians would obvious be a suicide.
That's a another good point and possibly a large part of what he's doing, but he really doesn't even need support to be able to do it. The military is entirely afraid of him. No one in this world other than Holland even DARE oppose Dewey.
He was saying that he was doing these pinpoint attacks to drag the Coralians out. He's been trying to Find them. Once he knows that, he can attack them at free will.