Well... they do need to prepare the ship, as Hachin pointed out.
Still, seems they enter a new sub plot with those nobles mentioned at the end.
Loved the art once again. And the humour animus already pointed out.
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Well... they do need to prepare the ship, as Hachin pointed out.
Still, seems they enter a new sub plot with those nobles mentioned at the end.
Loved the art once again. And the humour animus already pointed out.
Yeah, those Nobles do seem intriguing... hope some of them are quite badass; though I can see it know... Luffy stepping in when someone is about to get beheaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyougaZell
We also got some more good information about the Red Line and that Marijoa place... isn't that where Garp, Kuma, and Sengoku are?
Edit to below: Then this arc should really look more promising than it is... maybe this will be the big important arc instead of reaching the Merman Island or whatever.
Yup, that's right. Mariejoa is also where those 5 oldish dudes in charge of the WG live.
Maybe....but it seems a lot of people preferred the Luffy vs spring guy scene on Jaya more than the real battles in Skypeia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsu
Probably cause Luffy totally wrecked him and it was really quick. The fight's purpose was to show the difference then with his 100 mil bounty was it? to Bellamy's 30.
well... most of Enel's 'angels' were odd (Gedatsu) or idiotic (the fat one). Bellamy was actually what you would expect from a villan.
Bellamy had a higher bounty for a rookie. His was something like 50 million, versus Luffy's 30 million for beating Arlong.Quote:
Originally Posted by animus
No, Luffy's bounty was already 100 million for beating Crocodile. That's why all Bellamy's dudes were laughing it up when they couldn't believe his bounty was soh igh.Quote:
Originally Posted by poopdeville
Remember Luffy's 100million was not wide known yet, that is why they mocked him, and then Bellamy tried to 'prove' the 100million poster was fake.
Bellamy's bounty was 56 million. He wanted to prove that both of Luffy's bounties were inflated.
I was pretty clear that I was comparing their rookie bounties. Luffy's first bounty was for 30 million. Bellamy's first bounty was bigger. Almost twice as big.Quote:
Originally Posted by animus
bellamy's dead. move on.
This is pretty much going to be Skypeia all over again. Duval's going to end up being like that sky knight that the strawhats can summon once the insanely powerful enemies show up.
Except Duval's useless.
Not necessarily. I'm sure they could be more resourceful under-water than the strawhats.Quote:
Originally Posted by animus
They have Camie and Hachin for that.
Yet both Camie and Hachin would've lost to Duval and his crew if the strawhats didn't show up.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyougaZell
It's not too uncommon for former villains to help out the strawhats, even if they are weaker. Take for example, Vivi, the Wootan divers, and the Franky family
And Bon Kure.
Yes I see your point.
But I also think they took the time to show Camie was the fastest on the water for something.
I wouldn't mind if she joined the Straw Hats as well... but that would bring Hachin too... and honestly... they already have a cook and two swordsmen... so I guess she won't be joining at the end of the arc.
I've got a feeling Smoker is waiting for the Strawhats on Merman Island.
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I disagree on both points.
1. This is not going to be another Skypiea.
2. I wouldn't necessarily call Vivi, Wootan Divers, Franky Family villains.
1) orly?Quote:
Originally Posted by .noname.silent
2) what did Duval do that was different from Vivi, the Wootan divers, and franky family?
Become friend in less than 3 chapters? hehehe...
No actually you give a very good point... I just hope they brake the tendency this time... we do not need to see Duval again anymore. He accomplished his task, which was making fun of Sanji.
a.) I don't make idiotic theories about the next arc. It's stupid and pointless. Like I said, enjoy the manga for what it is...and One Piece is a manga not anime. BTW - Do you have proof that it's going to be another Skypiea arc? I would like you to share with everyone so that we can talk amongst ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
b.) Duval was never a villain and never will be. Never did I mention Duval did anything different from those people but here's the facts.Characters like Arlong, Sir Crocodile, CP9, etc. Those are villains that put up a serious fight for the sole purpose ending innocent lives.
- a. Vivi, from the get-go, she was a spy and a princess at that. Not to mention she was trying to save her kingdom at the same time. Result: Not a villain. (When did a kingdom love a villain?)
- b. Wootan Divers, when the hell did they put up a serious fight against the Strawhats? Result: Not villains.
- c. Franky, if he wanted to, he would have killed Usopp when he had the chance. Result: Not a villain.
and BTW RyougaZell: Sanji was already made fun of when the wanted poster was in publication.
Wow, thanks for filling us in on the obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by .noname.silent
A) Making theories about the next arc or anything in the future is the point of a discussion thread. One Piece is both a manga AND an anime. Sure the medium of it is manga first, but your sweeping generalization made the point innane.
B) Duval was a villain all up into the comedic revelation, just because he's good now doesn't mean he was never one.
Vivi and Mister 9 attacking the Strawhats was totally innocent amiright? Again, she WAS a villain but she had her arc and it revealed her motives.
Wootan Drivers see previous points about villains if they put up a fight or not.
Franky WAS a villain until he joined the crew and had his arc. He stole money, he fucked up Usopp, he fought Luffy, etc.
@noname
Dude sold people as Slaves... and not a villan?
Wow... I do not want to see what a villan would do then *sarcasm*
Duval's obvious purpose WAS to revive the joke of Sanji's poster. Why else give him 'that' face. DUH!
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Originally Posted by animus
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Originally Posted by animus
Please re-read. It's helpful to look at someone else's point of view. As I already seen through yours and assertn's and I dis-agreed. But thank you all for being immature and being dis-respectful for one's opinion. If you are still dis-agreeing with me and comment something asinine and ignorant about my opinion, like I said re-read carefully what I said about villains (and all of the above never really put the Strawhats in real imminent danger or innocent people).
We can all see with your replies, whose clearly immature. But flaming aside.
There's nothing to re-read carefully, you didn't say a single thing about villains other than these people NOT being one and that Crocodile, CP9 and Arlong took innocent lives. Ok, and I still disagree. And?
Oh well. People have different opinions what villains are and there is a difference between a villain and a criminal. How naive you are. I'm done this board.
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Which one is the villain
a.) Osama bin Laden
b.) President Bush
Pick one and think about the differences.
How does having differing opinions of what a villain is make one naive?
I can't pick just one, because both have done wrongs. It's totally subjective, which was the point of my arguments in the first place. You just made your points out as if they were 100% true.
Making theories about the manga is no more pointless than reading a manga in your free time in the first place.
I also don't need to elaborate on why this arc is like another Skypiea, because everyone else has been on the same page about that since the beginning of this thread.
Also....wtf is this semantics BS about?
Would it make you feel better, .noname.silent, if I called them antagonists instead?
It still doesn't change the fact that they are all one in the same.
This place feels like Logue town....
Always gotta watch your back etc.
Obviously there's going to be a conflict between Luffy and that guy who collects captains as slaves.
Lol, Zoro getting lost was so obvious.
Well, this was a great chapter in my opinion... I really hope we get a big arc in this place, there should be a ton of powerful people around. But it does feel like Logue Town, and I really liked that place if I remember correctly.
I dunno....it just feels like its hard to have a lot of fun with a town when you're always expecting the worst. Like, i was pretty goddamn frustrated with the beginning of the Water 7 arc because I KNEW someone was going to try to steal those briefcases full of money.
Does anyone have an idea of what the tattoo Hacchin got is? It seems like the little bit of outline we saw should be reminding me of something but I can't quite place what.
I'm enjoying this island so far. I can totally see Luffy or Zoro getting mixed up with these descendants and evoking the wrath of an admiral. That would be fun to read, they could barely escape to Fishman Island to avoid fighting.
There is probably a slave mark under Hachin's bandaid.
Zoro will definitely end up in the home of these assholes and will have to get out one way or another (preferably with an ass-whooping).
is the new weaver really nesscery? what role did the old one play in skypiea other than giving nami a movement boost (so she could alert the good guys that Enel is bad)?
I didn't ger any of their copmlicated science, other than the fact that thier ship is about to be pimp'd with bubbels...
but still, I hope that waterfights are going to be even better than airfights, it's been some time since we've seen someone suprising the SH fighting force.
I think it was just a way to show that it was a tourist trap.
Hacchin is covering up this tattoo which I think signifies that he is one of Arlong's pirates and since Pirates appear to be fair game and Hachin's species appears to be rare even among mermen then he would probably fetch a hefty price on the slave market.
Or Carnage could be right and he could be a runaway slave from a long time ago which would explain why they were hesitant to go there in the first place but if thats the case then those bandages wouldn't help much because if his species is so rare then covering up the tattoo on his forehead wouldn't mean much because really how many other Octopi could there be walking around.
Yeah...i was thinking it was an arlong tattoo as well..
Maybe I missed a lot of stuff here. But there is actually a guy who collect captains as slaves? Thats just bad ass man. Who is he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
Uh, didn't you read the latest chapter? Half of it was dedicated to him and the likes.
I just thought of something along the lines of Camie and Hachi pretending to be human...
It would've been neat if Nico Robin used her ability to create a pair of legs for Camie to use :)
Honestly, Nico Robin and I could have so much fun together. She could line the inside of her snatch with Cien Clits. Cien Boobs would be pretty neato too.
One Piece 498 by Franky House
MAN!!! Oda has done it again!!! he setup such nice setting for "New World"(second part of one piece). Zoro is heading for most lawless place. I wander how strong is engineer if he is 100 times stronger then a "new crop"?
Man....so hard to keep track of everything that was going on during the name drops.
Looked like all the newbies with six figure bounties are captains except for Zoro and that helmet guy with the two blade hands... I wonder if that means they will end up fighting...
I really like how Oda's system of power works in this series. Just because you have a huge bounty doesn't necessarily mean you're the strongest. For example the lady said Kid's bounty is only over 300 million because he kills civilians. This way it is easier to pick fights between people with different bounties but still not know the outcome. Oda is a genius.
It would be great if these guys all become frequent rivals in the new world....which would probably be the second half of the whole series.
Great chapter. But man... so many new characters. And we still have not seen all Shichibukai nor all Emperors.
I liked that one of the new pirates is a native from Sky Island.
I wonder that if they have more bounty people on their crews... I remember they saying the Mugiwara were 'special' because no crew had a bounty on each and every member (although... the crew IS small)
One of the rookies being from Sky Island is awesome and all...but it also kind of breaks the continuity of "the existence of Sky Island is just a myth" kind of attitude everyone had back in Jaya. Then again, I think they broke that continuity as soon as the sky knight explained about there being a far easier passageway up for tourists than knock-up stream.
Well... remember Gol D Roger did go to Sky Island, and that Gedatsu runs a Hot Spring in Alabastra.
I mean... only strong pirates (or daring) know the truth behind Sky Island, whereas the lame ones or un-adventurous (like Bellamy) do not believe in the existance of it, even in the Grand Line. (And this guys do not seem like Tourists to go the easy way either... )
Yeah but all the rookies are pretty well-known in the papers, so Bellamy had to have noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyougaZell
He did not believe Luffy's bounty, so maybe if he ever saw this Sky Island dude he must have assumed the wings were fake, or that he liked to dress up like Bon Kure (who also 'had' wings, but from his coat)
Bellamy doesn't seem like someone that would've read the papers. Even in the Strawhat crew the only one that reads them is Nami (perhaps Robin too, but we haven't seen it)
The Sky Island captain also had a lower bounty compared to the others in the group. Shakky mentioned that the names showing up frequently in the paper were Kid -> Law, who are the five 200million+ captains.
I wonder what kind of response the dude will have once he learns Luffy kicked Enel's ass. I wonder how big Luffy's bounty would be if the Government knew that Luffy kicked his ass (I assume they don't know).
Obviously Bellamy reads the papers if he knew about Luffy's $30M bounty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Augury
I don't have the chapters on hand to check, but I remember that Bellamy learned about Luffy's 30m bounty because he asked Luffy what his bounty was in that bar. Later on a random drunk pirate got the recently updated bounties from a flying courier and ran into the bar to tell Bellamy & co. about the 100m
whats Enels?
The "God" that used lightning during the skypiea arc?
No, not really. There are supposedly 7 paths from the Reverse Mountain to Mariejoa. The Strawhats kind of cheated and switched paths, since they found the Eternal Pose to Jaya on the Saint Bliss (the ship that fell out of the sky). Navigation is tough, since without an eternal pose, you have to go to the next island. I'm not surprised nobody on Jaya believed in Sky Island, or had heard of the Skypeian rookie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
On the other hand, all the paths converge on the current island, so anybody who listens can hear all the best rumors from the Old World.
Regarding the other route to Skypeia, the Strawhats might have found it if they had taken a different path from Reverse Mountain.
For the past chapters (thriller park) New World's population was mentioned that they are around Luffy's level so while Luffy is considered monster here, in New World he should be another "citizen".
I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by poopdeville
The logpose pointed to Sky Island after Arabasta. They made it a point to get off Jaya before their path was altered, so they stuck with their designated route the entire time. This means that Sky Island is part of their path from reverse mountain.
If another path leads to a connecting island that can take you to Sky Island, then travelers who take THAT bridge will be the ones converging onto Luffy's path.
Ok, let me throw some things out there that you guys are assuming that may or may not be true, and other things to keep in mind:
1. How recently did he get a bounty? (Remember these guys are rookies)
2. Because he's making the papers, is it being publicized that he's from Skypea?
3. Does anyone beside the readers (us) know he's from Skypea?
4. Do people automatically believe that he's from Skypea given that they are informed?
5. That Jaya believes it is a myth, does it represent the believe of everyone around the world?
Add to that, Jaya people probably knowing the truth now after Luffy went up there and rang the bell and add to that the captain only being a rookie in the biz, then it shouldn't really break continuity.
Remember, One Piece's world is populated by ignorant, ill informed, uneducated people.
And how is that any different from the real world? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Munsu
Despite this, there are extremely few people who would openly deny something in the face of substantial evidence...like the Holocaust, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carnage
We know that newspapers get delivered to Jaya, so they can't be TOO ignorant. Plus, if you recall, Jaya was all about bounties and status. That place was being overrun by ruffians bragging about their reputation.
Anyway...
I still find it amazing that other rookies could even come close to luffy's bounty.
This means that all the rookies have higher bounties than Crocodile, and some of them come close/surpass Moria's.
Luffy defeated two shichibukai and destroyed Enis Lobby.
He also has with him Franky and Nico Robin, both of whom were very prized targets of the world government.
Considering from what we know about the World Government, I'd say Luffy should be twice as much of a priority for them as any of these other guys, regardless of whether or not the other guys have been known to attack civilians. I'd also find it hard to believe that any of them have even confronted a shichibukai yet.
I expect to get some good stories about the parallel adventures of the other rookies.
Really I don't see any problem with the people of Jaya not believing in Sky Island. Its not like everyone doesn't believe its just that Bellamy and his pirates pretty much controlled the place and they openly ridiculed anyone who didn't believe what they believed so naturally anyone who believed never talked or even mentioned it. So it isn't that no one believed its just that Bellamy didn't believe and him being top dog and all everyone else just went along with him. Its just herd mentality, thats a rational enough explanation.
Much the same I don't see a problem with there being other people having bounties close to or even greater than Luffy's. I mean as you said Luffy and his crew should be a high priority as far as the government is concerned but it doesn't seem that way at all now does it. They are pretty much just letting them run around right under their noses and they don't seem concerned about it at all. Just based on the potential threat Robin poses her bounty should be substantially higher. So I imagine that the government isn't too concerned with Luffy and the others atleast not at this point, for now all they pose is a potential threat not a direct one and it seems that at their current level if the government wished, they could easily crush Luffy and his entire crew, just look at how easily Aokiji or Kuma could have destoyed them. So for now they have bigger fish to fry.
Anyway we have no idea what stuff the other rookies did and as has been mentioned numerous times Luffy and his crew may be big fish in a small pond on this side of the redline but in the new world they would just be average, so I would think there are alot more people with bounties higher than Luffy's.
About the shichibukai their bounties were all suspended when they joined so I imagine if not for that all their bounties would have been much much higher by this point. Besides it seems to me that the shichibukai weren't chosen based on strength or atleast not that alone but rather how useful they could be to the world government and what their sphere of influence was.
Back in East Blue they never knew Luffy defeated Kuro, so his initial bounty should have been higher than 30 million.
Now... the World Government ignores he defeated Enel, plus they did not raise his bounty *again* after Moria, because it was 'too soon'.
Taking this things into action... his bounty should be higher indeed....
The rookies most probably did not encounter a Shichibukai... it is just they kill people and their bounties must have grown with every important kill.
Also... being a Shichibukai does not mean they are super powerful... it just means they 'sold' themselves to the World Government.
Just "selling" yourself isn't enough to become a shichibukai though.
Blackbeard had to take out Ace before he was awarded his title.
Because prior to that no one knew BlackBeard in the World Government.
The other Shichibukai were sought by the Marines, and they accepted to join.
Super Heros Matchups: There can be only one (or two, when the good guys win)
Capone vs Luffy. the obligatory 'luffy beates up a seemingly strong guy easily'
Big eater (girl) vs Robin & Nami. Kitty fight, Meow.
Basil vs Zoro. a no brainer. the obligatory sword duel.
Kid vs Luffy. another no brainer. it's got Luffy written all over it.
Appo vs Franky
X-drake vs no one. He looks like a good guy that doesn't get ownd by the good guys.
Urouge (sky island man) vs Ussop & Chopper
Killer vs Brooke
Dark doctor vs Sanji
that's my list.
edit: fixed some typing mistakes.
edit2: again.
edit3: again.
It would be lame if every strawhat beats every rookie. These people are supposed to be captains in direct competition with Luffy (except for the claw guy, who, yeah, is in direct competition with Zoro).
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Originally Posted by Assertn
True. However, I think it requires a little bit more than just being able to sell yourself or your powers to the government by beating someone. Also, I think that the people should be a bit stronger. I mean, crocodile has the power to create sandstorms with his DF. Now don't get me wrong, Blackbeard is strong, but I don't think he can be compared to the current shichibukai.
If we're talking about short and medium-range combat / destructive ability, Blackbeard seems stronger than both Crocodile and Moria. We've seen that he can take a considerable amount of damage - more than Ace's huge village-sized fireball, at any rate - and the limit to his fighting strength is directly related to how much punishment he can absorb.
As far as the rookies... I think Oda will have most of them survive to continue being rivals in the New World. They could also be used to fight other groups that the Strawhats don't necessarily run into. As of now, I don't really see a Skypeia-style mass elimination thing happening. My guess is that Zoro will run into one since he's wandering alone, and Luffy will probably have to deal with another.
It'd be amusing to see Blackbeard up against Moria. I imagine he'd be able to dispell every single zombie just by touching them.
He wouldn't even have to wait for them to get close he could use his dark matter and completely destroy them or he could just suck their shadows right out and absorb them, now that would be cool.
Seeing as Naruto and Bleach returned, did One Piece return also?
One Piece had an additional scheduled break this week in addition to golden week two weeks ago. Couldn't find the source for this, but it was mentioned over at arlong park and franky house.
499 by FH
the rapid share test is... hard, dammit!
I used megaupload
Anyways... great chapter. Lots of things to see. And the inmminent return (so soon?) of the Flying Fish Riders...
Zoro deserves a flag of his own.
Ha...I called it....
Although yeah, I didn't think they'd come so soon either.
The interactions between the rookies is pretty amusing
Edit: interesting....
In the scene where Jewelry Bonnie tackles Zoro, she looks like a kid and her outfit looks different too. Maybe she ate a devil's fruit that lets her change her age? This would explain why Zoro thought she was a brat, anyway...
Nice catch.
She does look like a kid, specially when you see her 'crying' over him, when he is pretending to be dead.
PS: Congrats on the 9000th post. You used it on One Piece.
Haha, Luffy barfed on the tea cups.
This chapter really caught my interest.
There are so many paths Oda could take right now.
1. Cainie Kidnapper selling her to a Tenryuubito and her rescue results in the Tenryu being hurt which would bring in the Navy.
2. The Strawhat meet a Tenryuubito who will become a crew member or at least one that is not a complete bastard who will help them in someway since it's very possible that not all of them act like those we've seen.
3. The Pirates Rookie battle royal that a few have speculated.
4. The Navy is being held up, but by what? If whatever keeping them busy is not Dragon then this would be a great chance for his forces to do something. I would think that for a Rebel army, attacking and subsequently harming a majority of the peoples that the World Government is hellbent on protecting would be considered a great victory. If the rest of the Tenryu is like those we've seen so far then they are probably not very well liked by regular peoples, Dragon could rally a lot of support by attacking them.
5. We already got a hint at the end of Black vs Ace duel that it was the "trigger" for the great event yet to come. Shank and White Beard met for a reason, if I've learn anything from one piece it's that Oda rarely ever does anything without linking it to something else down the line. It is very possible for White Beard and Shank to team up and try to save Ace since Shank has ties with Luffy and White Beard would probably want to save his First Mate. That could be the thing that is keeping the Navy so busy that they won't worry about anything else unless it's a huge crisis.
Those are just some of my speculation, but Oda has created a perfect setup to where it's possible for anything to happen.
I personally would love to see either 4 or 5 happen and maybe even both together. I personally feel that while the stuff like Moria was really cool, having the Straw Hats beat one Shichibukai after another would get really stale. This is probably a great time for some shit to hit the fan and for things to get chaotic since they are close to going to the new world.
Aren't the Marines (Navy) being held up because of the Shanks - Whitebeard situation? I don't think we'll see Dragon yet.
In any case, I want to see the Strawhats land themselves in deep shit by attacking a Tenryuubito, but I'm also interested in seeing what Oda will do with the other pirate crews.
If she gets sold, then what's the purpose of calling in the flying fish riders?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
Definitely not. The Tenryuubito are descendants of the world government founders, and pirates are just about as far from the world government as you can get. All the Tenryuubito have such luxurious lives...why would any of them want to change?Quote:
2. The Strawhat meet a Tenryuubito who will become a crew member or at least one that is not a complete bastard who will help them in someway since it's very possible that not all of them act like those we've seen.
It's possible, but I think we can safely say it won't happen until after entering the new world. Personally, I think there's more potential here in developing a long-term relationship between these captains that, despite being rivals, it's still in their best interest to pick and choose their battles, form temporary alliances against greater evils, etc....just like the kind of relationship Shanks and Whitebeard have.Quote:
3. The Pirates Rookie battle royal that a few have speculated.
I figured they were still held up by the Shanks/Whitebeard meeting from before...Quote:
4. The Navy is being held up, but by what? If whatever keeping them busy is not Dragon then this would be a great chance for his forces to do something. I would think that for a Rebel army, attacking and subsequently harming a majority of the peoples that the World Government is hellbent on protecting would be considered a great victory. If the rest of the Tenryu is like those we've seen so far then they are probably not very well liked by regular peoples, Dragon could rally a lot of support by attacking them.
5. We already got a hint at the end of Black vs Ace duel that it was the "trigger" for the great event yet to come. Shank and White Beard met for a reason, if I've learn anything from one piece it's that Oda rarely ever does anything without linking it to something else down the line. It is very possible for White Beard and Shank to team up and try to save Ace since Shank has ties with Luffy and White Beard would probably want to save his First Mate. That could be the thing that is keeping the Navy so busy that they won't worry about anything else unless it's a huge crisis.
Rock n' Roll is bitching
and so does chapter 500
my comments will come as soon as I pass the freakingly hard test and get the file.
EDIT:
holy shit, sure as hell didn't see that coming, it's got to be good. it explains why the rookies are still hanging there.
edit2: I guess we now know how shanks learned this shit, and this guy can aim.
Haha chopper and brooke are hilarious....
Damn....I guess this explains why that woman said that the painter is stronger than all the rookies.
Wow! Not bad for a 500th chapter!!
A Roger Pirate! Nice!
Brooke and Chooper stole the show....
And somehow I can see the Mugiwara entering the Auction House to raid it... they already declared war on the World Government at Ennis Lobby by burning their flag so... how much trouble can they earn if they do this?
Luckily the tenryuubito aren't bidding...maybe they'll change their mind when they find out there's a mermaid.
If Straw Hats are will to cause trouble near World Government HQ that be enough to classify them as dangerous as Emperor of New World.
Damn I didn't see that coming man. He is a hell of a guy to just be able to knock people over like that. But, I'm curious. Am I the only one who finds it odd that a man like that doesn't have crew anymore? Or that he's in hiding? Or that the big guy only found him, and forced him to reveal who he was?
And also. How strong can the guy be? I mean yes he is stronger than the Straw hats. He can't be stronger than the Yonkou or Shanks. He is too old. And to anyone who wants to argue me on this, if he is so strong. Then why does he have a bomb collar around his neck? I mean if he's that strong, then why is he a slave? He should be able to destroy entire islands with his spirit alone. At least make whole towns shake and crumble. With Roger as his buddy and being his (right man) as well as being able to snipe people with his energy. He should be out with a new bad ass crew of the best pirates in the New World. Or on a Yonkous crew, showing them how to be a great pirate from what he learned with Roger.
even roger was taken down, in the end.
and it doesn't matter how strong he is, if he's got a collar.
as to how did he get the collar. somebody probably tricked him, or ganged up on him (3 admiral, Garp and Daibuddha. for example).
besides, he has already been to the final island, and knows what 'one piece' is (my theory - the final tablet of the truth), what need does he have for a crew.
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Well we don't know anything for sure. Perhaps Roger handed himself in for some reason. And also, how do we know his entire crew made it to the final island? You never really know with Oda.....
The old man could not have been a prisoner until just recently, because he was working in the shop until a few months ago, when he wandered off...Quote:
Originally Posted by Carnage
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Originally Posted by Assertn
Which makes me think that he must've either really done something wrong. Or that he was really wanted and finally the auctioneers found him out and wanted a huge piece of the cut from the sell off, so they jailed him. For the most part though, I think he just wanted to be caught and spend some time there away from the world. Because in all honesty, if you were the pirate kings former first mate, with that skill and power, would you want to be known all over the world. Or in a town like that?
well, we can't be sure that they actually know who they've caught.
it's been ages since Roger's time, and he doesn't seem to be in special containment. therefore (considering what they did to Tom) I don't think they know who he is.
he probably just got bored and took a nap there. and woke up in jail, and doesn't have any good reason to get out (until now).
most likely that all the rookies are looking for him now. which is why they're all in town.