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Because it doesn't respect the original Japanese title. It's not that hard to translate the title, and it isn't even that long. Why change it?Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Erased sounds like an action flick, to be honest. It doesn't carry the slice of life and mystery feel of Boku Dake ga Inai Machi.
This story isn't even remotely "slice of life" and it covers the mystery part quite well... also the time traveling/changing past theme and Kayo's/Satoru's story.
Who gives a fuck though and why.
there are so much worse.
For example, Mononoke-hime is not "The Spirit Princess" but Princess Mononoke, and no ones is named "Mononoke" in that show.
Maybe I'm just used to it because we germans have a history of changing movie names.
Well, I´m German, too, and your posting makes no sense. Translating "Mononoke hime" into "Princess Mononoke" is a super-literal translation. Nothing got re-interpreted in the translation process. You could even argue the translation is too literal, since they left "mononoke" untranslated.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Then you´re saying you´re used to changed movie titles because of German history? How does that come together?
Also, Germany isn´t exactly famous for changing titles, but infamous for adding unnecessary subtitles. :>
So, what's Mononoke supposed to mean? There is no character called Mononoke in the show, what is a Mononoke.Quote:
Well, I´m German, too, and your posting makes no sense. Translating "Mononoke hime" into "Princess Mononoke"
You probably don't even know the original titles my friend.Quote:
Then you´re saying you´re used to changed movie titles because of German history? How does that come together?
Also, Germany isn´t exactly famous for changing titles, but infamous for adding unnecessary subtitles. :>
Face/Off -> Im Körper des Feindes -> In the Body of my Enemy
or
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl -> Fluch der Karibik -> Curse of the Caribbean
and then the second movie: Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest -> Pirates of the Caribbean - Fluch der Karibik 2 (wtf?)
etc. etc.
or some older stuff from Arnold: "The Running Man" -> "Der Zweite Mann" -> "The Second Man"
So yeah, I'm probably just used to it, sometimes they are even better than the original and I don't see a problem with this.
The story has slice of life elements in it, like his school activities and home scenes. Remember Edort complaining about filler-ish stuff? Those are it. I'm not saying it's a slice of life show, but it's a show set in a town in Satoru's youth. "Erased" erases all that from the title (lol). Go and ask someone what they think a story titled "Erased" is about and you'll get what I mean.
Putting all that aside, changing the title completely is nonsense. It could've been easily translated. That's always been my stance in localization, but you're free to disagree.
Yeah, but nothing got changed, which was the point of this discussion. "Boku dake ga inai Machi" should be "The town where I only I do not exist". Instead it became "Erased". That is completely out of nowhere. Leaving "Mononoke" like that is a pure translation decision, turning it into something else entirely is a interpretation decision, and a bad one at that. It´s as if they had turned "mononoke hime" into "Forest of Gods" or some shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
It might have been more prevalent in the past, but for the past 10+ years? We get the original English titles or literal translations of them. Not saying that´s 100% for all movies.Quote:
You probably don't even know the original titles my friend.
Whoa, seeing how the Germans switch titles makes me understand why Krayz is so tolerant of it. In my country, we use the original English titles of all Hollywood movies. In fact, we use English titles for a good chunk local movies too.
"In My Enemy's Body" LOLWTF.
It's not, the movie translates to "the princess of spirits" or something similiar, why not use it? It's a fitting title too because that's what San(?) is pretty much.Quote:
Yeah, but nothing got changed, which was the point of this discussion. "Boku dake ga inai Machi" should be "The town where I only I do not exist". Instead it became "Erased". That is completely out of nowhere. Leaving "Mononoke" like that is a pure translation decision, turning it into something else entirely is a interpretation decision, and a bad one at that. It´s as if they had turned "mononoke hime" into "Forest of Gods" or some shit.
They decided to translate the -san -hime -dono - part but not the important part... why not?
"Die Hard" is still "Stirb Langsam"... pretty much the opposite as "Die Hard" means "you can't kill him" and we translated it as "he dies slowly"Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Black Eagle became Red Eagle and all that kind of stuff, as I said... we have a history of changing titles and as you mentioned, even adding nonsense.
Oh remember "Taken"? - No you don't, because we call it 96-hours... not even 96-Stunden, no, 96-hours. We gave an english title, a new english title.
Again, turning "mononoke hime" into "princess mononoke" isn´t re-interpretating/changing the original. Turning "Boku dake ga inai Machi" into "Erased", is.
And as I said, there´s still sometimes weird, unnecessary title changes, but it´s gotten way less frequent. Btw the sequel to 96 hours is called "96 hours - Taken 2" in Germany lol
But it also fails to translate anything meaningful. Mononoke isn't a name... people don't realize it and actually think San is called (Princess) Mononoke because of that.Quote:
Again, turning "mononoke hime" into "princess mononoke" isn´t re-interpretating/changing the original.
If they had done it right (even if they chose not to translate the meaning of Mononoke), you'd actually have to call the movie The Princess of Mononoke... or "Die Mononoke Prinzessin"
Or they could call it "The Forest Monsters," in German, of course.
More like: "A Tale of Wisps and Willows" because "willow" also means "reißwolf" in german (shredder) and "reißen" is what a wolf does to a sheep and double meaning with Will-o-wisp and shit....and... all that.
Get it? GET IT? thats some german thinking right there.
Or call it "Prinzessin Mononoke", a title that is distinct and instantly recognizable and unique.
Most Germans understand English, right? If so, why the need to change the titles?
Ya, because we all know what Mononoke means, right?Quote:
a title that is distinct
I don't know. As I said, we actually use our own english titles that are different from the original english title.Quote:
Most Germans understand English, right? If so, why the need to change the titles?
edit: I just asked my brother "How was the female lead in Princess Mononoke called again?" - "Mononoke, you dummy."
Just saying...
Well, lets discuss the show.
I think it´s because German media are somewhat proud of their localization process. I mean, you have exactly two big dubbing nations in the world: Japan and Germany. Yeah, France and the US do dubbing, too, but the US does it mostly for cartoons. But only Germany dubs EVERYTHING. I mean, we even dubbed those Jackass-movies, which was weird as hell. But thanks to that, German dubs are also really good in general, much like Japanese dubs are the finest in the world.
So, maybe when you value translation/localization to this degree, translating the title comes naturally.
Everybody knows what movie is meant when you mention it, so, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
You do realize that this applies to every movie ever? That has nothing to do with being distinct.Quote:
Everybody knows what movie is meant when you mention it, so, yeah.
"Oh ya, that movie with the wolf girl called mononoke, right?"
That´s not true at all. No idea what you´re talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
What the hell are you guys talking about? Get a new room (thread) for that stuff.
I feel like murderer flags are being dropped all over the teacher for multiple reasons:
1. When they did angle on his face from a side-view, it looked almost exactly like the side-view of that hatted man in that first episode when he was caught in the act.
2. There is no reason for him to be given this much screen time.
3. The camera keeps pausing on him for a second or two too long after his interaction is done. Again, no reason for this.
4. During conversations that he has, you don't always hear everything that he has to say. No reason for this to happen....unless he's the f'ing killer