Highschool of the Dead

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学園黙示録 HIGHSCHOOL OF THE DEAD

* Based on the manga by Satou Daisuke with illustrations by Satou Shouji

The world is over taken with a very deadly disease that turns humans into zombies. In Japan, several students of Fujimi High School, and the school nurse, band together to survive the present apocalypse. The story follows Takashi Komuro, one of the students who survived in the initial outbreak.~AniDB

Genre: Action, Horror, Ecchi,Post-apocalyptic,

Links: AniDB

[Coalguys] Highschool of the Dead Episode 1

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Glad to see it's faithfull to the manga from the start. Jumping right into the action. Pretty intense first episode if you ask me. I'm glad they animated it well. Really like the ED song.

This show looked like a keeper. Granted, the fanservice is there prominently but on the other hand if you consider zombies at large as an idea, they are rather carnal no matter how you look at them - so why no make the rest of the show just as carnal? It's fitting, so I won't be complaining (not that I'd complain about fanservice anyway as long as the whole show isn't just one big blob of service with nothing in between (aka Queen's Blade)).

I like the level of violence and how the people getting eaten alive were screaming and squirming. Such details factor heavily in a good zombie show. It was also important the karate dude got infected and killed (whoever thought of fighting contagious zombies hand-to-hand and lived to tell the tale?).

Yeah, I'm expecting more amusing episodes from this series.

Oh man, that was just awesome on all levels.

I seriously laughed at Takashi's instant reaction to that guy walking into the school fence, he just went straight to "Some rapist?" lol

I guess their school is prone to rapist attacks?, and from seeing what the girls in that school look like and what they wear, it's like a damn rape magnet lol

2 words: Fucking Awesome!

Why the fuck does a group start a series if they are undecided to do it in the first place? CoalGuys say on their site they are leaning towards dropping the show.

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Christ, ATXHD >:|

Sentai’s subs are ok but tler finished the translation before I could even check, so might as well. Then I took another 2 hours fixing the encode b/c atx is being atx.

I’ll have another week to figure out if I should drop this or no (leaning towards yes)

Download : [ Torrent | DDL | ASS ]

P.S. filesize is an accurate representation of how god tier the animation is

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Is the other group, Commie, good?

Oh yeah commie is the golden flag of fansubbing, go for it...

Oh dear god I love this show. I have a nose bleed from all this awesomeness. I will perhaps make a more articulate post when I calm down or just leave it at that.

I've been dying to see this animated ever since I read the manga. Its fucking brilliant.

Broken friendships... human stampedes... suicide... it was just pure utter chaos.

But damn... Hisashi wanted to die before converting into a zombie and they stood there like idiots... and he changed before their eyes. Ouch.

I already crave for the next episode.

Wow, that turned out to be as awesome as I expected it :D
Loved the 28 weeks later-song variation at the end.
Lots of potential here. Though all the panty-shots felt really out of place...wtf :D

Though, I wonder if this series´ depiction of human behavior as really that believable. Im sure there would be a lot of assholes if such thing happened in reallife. But here, basically EVERYONE but the main group turned into mindless assholes. I guess it´s simply easier to follow a small group than having, whatever, 50 people survive and portray them in-depth.

Looking forward to episode 2.

I'm just wondering what tricks they'll use -other than lots of flashbacks- to serialize a zombie show :D

Hisashi deserved it. The reason why he got bitten was because of his arrogance. Even a karate-ka would use weapons in such situations, especially because too little is known about the enemy.

The girl was funny though. Blaming the MC for killing her boyfriend in the worse possible way, then begging him to stay the next. I kind of wanted to throw her into the zombie pool.

OMG... Already a favorite for me.

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Oh yeah commie is the golden flag of fansubbing, go for it...

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Commie is definitely the one to watch. Coalguys' translation is horrible. Rubbles? There's a fight in the school. Evacuate. That makes sense...

Awesome! it doesn't need the Ecchi scenes to be this good though (makes it harder for me to recommend it for people who are not into such movies/series)

can't wait for more.

btw, are their 2 different versions?
the PV showed how the teacher, who climbed out of the window, fall onto the ground (you could see how his head got smashed).

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

Hisashi deserved it. The reason why he got bitten was because of his arrogance. Even a karate-ka would use weapons in such situations, especially because too little is known about the enemy.

The girl was funny though. Blaming the MC for killing her boyfriend in the worse possible way, then begging him to stay the next. I kind of wanted to throw her into the zombie pool.

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yeah i already hate her... hope it wont end with both of them dating or some shit

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Originally Posted by ForteCross

yeah i already hate her... hope it wont end with both of them dating or some shit

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Lol, unless she gets eaten by one of those zombies i'm pretty sure that's what's gonna happen

I certainly hope not. There are other girls, like the twin tailed girl (who seems to like the MC) or the sword chick.

I wouldn't really leave it to the Japanese if I was looking for a surprising story development but maybe this series will be different. I would be immensely pleased if the stock girl didn't get the guy. I already like the sword girl the most despite her low screentime so far. I hope she will get him (and a real sword).

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Originally Posted by Shinta

The girl was funny though. Blaming the MC for killing her boyfriend in the worse possible way, then begging him to stay the next. I kind of wanted to throw her into the zombie pool.

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I disliked it during the moment, but in retrospect it was actually good - like the girls who were "friends". When shit goes chaotic, so does your thoughts.

I still dislike the amount of fanservice this has, but like the above, I would even go as far to say it's "necessary", to pull this show back from being 150% intense. It's distracting, and that's probably the point.

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C.C.?!

The teacher that first got bitten, has less then desired reaction time. If someone is spewing blood, it would have made sense to get the fuck away from him asap.

Anyhow, I like this show.

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Originally Posted by depthcharge

The teacher that first got bitten, has less then desired reaction time. If someone is spewing blood, it would have made sense to get the fuck away from him asap.

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Well, from the sound of things, and even the photo in the credits, it looked like the female teacher had a bit of a thing for the P.E. teacher. Romantic, platonic, or just really close professionally, we'll never know, but she was concerned about him more than I would have expected given the situation. She was more or less leaning right over him when he woke and bit her.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

Granted, the fanservice is there prominently but on the other hand if you consider zombies at large as an idea, they are rather carnal no matter how you look at them - so why no make the rest of the show just as carnal? It's fitting, so I won't be complaining (not that I'd complain about fanservice anyway as long as the whole show isn't just one big blob of service with nothing in between (aka Queen's Blade)).

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I agree with Kraco about the carnality of the series being the reason for the fanservice. Is it unnecessary? Maybe, but they are ripping off clothing and tearing into flesh anyway, so why be shy about anything else? The effect of having both the violence, gore and sexuality makes the show even more raw. It ends up being shocking on a number of levels, even the proportions of the character design.

Still, I'd say my favorite part of the episode is without a doubt the two, "best friends," who betray each other, only for the other one to get grabbed straight away. When the zombies grabbed her around the face, and her expression changed, a chill ran up my spine. It was also a pretty good lesson. She had every opportunity right at the beginning to save her friend. She was only grabbed around the ankle. The two of them might have lived longer if she hadn't been so concerned about saving herself at the expense of someone else. Two sets of eyes are better than one.

The chaos and panic evoked was excellent. It is this caliber of series that the anime industry needs to re-energize itself.

High School of the Dead Episode 2 [Commie]

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Originally Posted by JaySee

High School of the Dead Episode 2 [Commie]

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Looks like Coalguys aren't dropping this quite yet: (they're also less censored than HS's version)

Coalguys - Episode 02


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"Protecting a man's pride is a woman's duty."

If Saeko wasn't already the hottest candidate, she's just stolen the Best Female Character crown now. Damn she's awesome, just look at that OP!
(edit: and PVC figures are already in the works! CONTAINS CHARACTER DESIGN SPOILERS AND NUDITY)

Too bad characters like her who are too much in their own league end up alone romantically.

Kouta's rubber sights and all were funny, but do nail guns really have that much power at range? These zombies seem to have an iron grip, but jack all structural integrity. The duct tape, on the other hand, has shockingly good quality.

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This shot along with the interaction between the genius and gunner all but seals those two romantic pairings, which leaves poor Saeko and (god I hate her) the school nurse. :(

Man these episodes are over way too fast. Kohta is like the new MacGyver.

Is Commie or CoalGuys better for this show?

Commie's translation is better. CoalGuys have grammar/spelling errors and put in random stupid stuff like "What's that? A rapist?" However, Commie doesn't sub the opening and only releases 480p. This last episode from Commie had lots of encoding errors too.

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Originally Posted by JaySee

Commie's translation is better. CoalGuys have grammar/spelling errors and put in random stupid stuff like "What's that? A rapist?" However, Commie doesn't sub the opening and only releases 480p. This last episode from Commie had lots of encoding errors too.

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Are they the same in terms of censoring?

man, the nurse pretty much destroys the whole feeling

as if the eechi scenes weren't enough, no, they had to implent a totally useless extremely huge breasted blonde chick with a boring, silly and sleepy attitude, great!

however, the zombie smashing and chaos everywhere is still awesome,

The television report at the end confused me a bit. are they "rioting" nationwide already? and the police + SDF seem to know about the zombies already (they wouldn't shoot the people in the body bags otherwise)... which makes me wonder why the reporter got killed. it's not like they are hard to oversee in the middle of a street.
even if the citizen don't know about the truth yet, the police should be able to warn them or shoot the zombies before they reach them.

I like ecchi in this series as zombie and ecchi go well together, nurse has her own special abilities. As for TV report: zombie react on sound so gunshot will attract all nearby zombies to buffet and more you shoot the more zombies you attract.

Episode 2 was fantastic. I don't mind the jiggling since I already read the manga, but I can understand why first timers are somewhat annoyed.

It saddened me that every version got censored this time around though.

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Originally Posted by KrayZ33

man, the nurse pretty much destroys the whole feeling

as if the eechi scenes weren't enough, no, they had to implent a totally useless extremely huge breasted blonde chick with a boring, silly and sleepy attitude, great!

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It's not even that so much as the "BOIOIOINNNNGGG" sounds that were played everytime her tits moved.

I swear i orgasmed when she picked up the chainsaw, it was that damn awesome even if they censored it

Other than that I'm pretty much with Bill on the pairings even though i think even if fatty doesn't get killed along the way he isn't getting no pussy until the very final episode

Also i don't get all the hate for the nurse, i for one am looking forward for the moment when reality comes crashing down on her and she breaks

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Originally Posted by Archangel

I swear i orgasmed when she picked up the chainsaw, it was that damn awesome even if they censored it

Also i don't get all the hate for the nurse, i for one am looking forward for the moment when reality comes crashing down on her and she breaks

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If it weren't censored, you would know that it was a drill. The nurse is that annoying character everyone wants to die, but keeps lucking out. Hopefully there will be her epic murder at the end.

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Originally Posted by Archangel

I swear i orgasmed when she picked up the chainsaw, it was that damn awesome even if they censored it

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A chainsaw on a highschool... right :rolleyes:

It was still awesome :(

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Originally Posted by RyougaZell

A chainsaw on a highschool... right :rolleyes:

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Chainsaws aren't used in wood shop, they're for cutting off branches and trees. A band saw and reciprocating saw are. OH! Using either of those in a scene would be nice! Shove a zombie into a band saw or reciprocating saw to the neck. :D

It was a drill. At least it sounded like one of those that a dentist would use.

It's a drill. See this page from the manga should you desire. That said, the sound effect was completely off.

I thought Takagi was probably one of the most dynamic characters so far, and not just because of her breakdown into tears. Compared to Rei and Busujima, she's fairly helpless, but she still had a very strong desire to survive. She finds the first person she sees that might be able to help her, knowing he's some sort of gun/technology otaku, and drags him to the woodshop and lays out everything on the table. She bosses him around, and then waits for him to McGuyver something. Sure, she comes off as a bit of a princess, but she's got the smarts to back up her claims about being a genius.

She stayed away from the staff room knowing that it would be the first place panicky (and probably bitten) students would go. Sure enough, she was right and Hirano and she were safe. Most importantly, she decided that figuring out how the zombies work was the right approach for the two of them.

Again, she's not Busujima, she's not Rei, and she's not Komuro. She can't fight on her own. She figured out a way to dodge them, and went about it somewhat scientifically. No one else we've seen so far has bothered, Busujima didn't. Busujima is a cool, calm, and experienced fighter, and she merely uses the minimal effort. Takagi can't do that, and when her smarts couldn't save her, she overreacted with the drill. It gives her a depth we haven't seen in the other characters so far.

I really liked the trichotomy in approaches the three girls used in getting themselves to safety. Takagi was all leadership and brains, Busujima pure skill, and Rei was primarily brute force (the hose and using the spear so forcefully that it takes her time to extract it). I'm sure the nurse will display something useful sooner or later...or maybe she's only their driver?

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Originally Posted by Ryll

I'm sure the nurse will display something useful sooner or later...or maybe she's only their driver?

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Her boobs will fit behind the wheel? :eek:

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

Her boobs will fit behind the wheel? :eek:

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She's already equipped with airbags, she's ideal for a getaway driver in this kind of dangerous situation.

I just don't wanna see the part where it deflates a while after the impact.

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

I just don't wanna see the part where it deflates a while after the impact.

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Reading that with shinta's current avatar is the best.

I´ll jump on the hate-bandwagon concerning the nurse. Really annoying. What´s super annoying is how that sword-bitch came JUST IN TIME FOR THE GUY TO GET BITTEN. Awesome...not. Brave, couragous guy dies, stupid boob-chick survives...sigh.

I also dont really like the sword-girl. Feels out of place, how easily and confidently she´s killing zombies.

Rest of the episode was great, though. I´d have preferred for them to stay in smaller groups for longer. The big group kind of kills all the potential between fat guy and genius girl, and the existence of sword girl makes it all feel to safe now.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

I´d have preferred for them to stay in smaller groups for longer. The big group kind of kills all the potential between fat guy and genius girl, and the existence of sword girl makes it all feel to safe now.

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I get the feeling that if they left the school and went out in pairs into the city that they would all die. Now they are a nice Dawn of the Dead sized group (original or remake).

Busujima and Shizuka (the nurse) probably would have been the only ones to get out safely if they hadn't all joined together. She's the only one who knows how to drive. Takagi (pink twintails) brought on a large group of zombies when she started screaming as she lost it and when she used the drill. Those two would have been goners. Komuro and Rei don't come off as all that bright or resourceful on their own.

I reckon that under this particular situation, I would not want to move around anywhere. I would stock up on provision and just hide.

If sound will lure the zombies away, the perimeter can be secured with sound traps that lead away from the hiding spot.

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Originally Posted by Ryllharu

I get the feeling that if they left the school and went out in pairs into the city that they would all die. Now they are a nice Dawn of the Dead sized group (original or remake).

Busujima and Shizuka (the nurse) probably would have been the only ones to get out safely if they hadn't all joined together. She's the only one who knows how to drive. Takagi (pink twintails) brought on a large group of zombies when she started screaming as she lost it and when she used the drill. Those two would have been goners. Komuro and Rei don't come off as all that bright or resourceful on their own.

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Could have fleshed out their being at school a bit longer, then.

Well, whatever. I just hope that Busujima sees her limit soon, though I have no idea how. Maybe by seeing her dead or zombie parents or something like that. She´s just too confident for the situation.

This show is sooo badass, i just wish they would up the picture quality a bit..

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Originally Posted by RyougaZell

It saddened me that every version got censored this time around though.

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They did? Is there an uncensored version somewhere or did they just not air one at all?

They want to sell the DVDs/BDs.

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

They want to sell the DVDs/BDs.

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She drilled a motherfucking zombie skull, sometimes you have to see it from their side too and not be such a cynic Shinta >_>

My lady friend recommended this show for all the fan service. (I guess she knows what I like...) I hope that wasn't censored too.

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Originally Posted by poopdeville

My lady friend recommended this show for all the fan service. (I guess she knows what I like...) I hope that wasn't censored too.

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You know what they say, "mother's knows best."

Ya ya, she's a mom, but not mine. ;-)

[Commie] High School of the Dead - 03 MKV

[gg]HIGHSCHOOL OF THE DEAD - 03
Coalguys dropped the show.

And yes her boobs DID fit behind the wheel!

Man was Tagaki annoying. While some of her criticism was helpful (such as about the car rolling over), a good deal of it was much more demoralising than it needed to be. Add that to the fact that she's acting kinda all high 'n mighty because she's a genius with no combat ability who keeps yapping and standing only to have her ass saved, she can be one hell of an eyesore pain in the ass to listen to. (she IS still somewhat visually appealing after all)

Given all of the above, it says a lot when she pales in comparison to the sly teacher. He's a type that I love to hate. He's a complete asshole who should die a horrible death, but a tiny part of me wishes to keep him alive all the same because they really spice up the politics (as he just did). Still, I wish that Saeko and all the original crew would leave him and his followers soon. His "survival of the fittest" remark was simply ironic.

So much is my hate for him that Rei climbed right up the ladder for ditching him on the spot (as well as completely shafting the guy who challenged Takashi.) I don't even care that she was being a bitch anymore.

Make no mistake though, I'm still very much a Busujima Saeko fan.

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This episode felt like it went by quite quickly. I pretty much echo Buff's sentiments on it though. I was not pleased to see Takagi reverting to her old whiny, constantly berating, overly loud personality. I suppose it's better than her going competely catatonic and being dead weight though. It is especially irksome that she continues to spout off about being the most 'intelligent' and 'superior' member of the group yet she is apparently unable to control her impulsive screaming at people despite being surrounded by sound hunting zombies.

Busujima had another understated but awesome performance though, offering to risk herself for the group and beating up zombies with even more passion and flare than before. She is quite the cool player though I am interested to see if somewhere down the road she actually manages to get flustered about something and has to deal with it.

Electric motorbikes and electric cars would be one of the quietest transportation that these guys can find. A gasoline crossroad bike with its sharp engine sound would be a zombie magnet. Then again, you can probably be on a bike and attract and trap those zombie for incineration.

Maybe I'm over analyzing this but a couple of events didn't set well with me with this one

- First, if the zombies are only moved by sound why aren't they going after each other? Also for blinds they don't seem to trip or walk into objects all that much

- How exactly did a situation develop where a bus full of zombies was speeding through the highway? Transformation takes time, we've seen it, so even if one of them was infected and later transformed i don't see how it would have escalated to the situation we witnessed.

- Why are Rei's spear thrusts suddenly effective against the zombies? I don't think i saw her gunning for their heads even once.

These are just nitpicks since i still thought the episode was buckets of awesome, we even have a bad guy to hate now.

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Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin

[Commie] High School of the Dead - 03 MKV

[gg]HIGHSCHOOL OF THE DEAD - 03
Coalguys dropped the show.

And yes her boobs DID fit behind the wheel!

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Ugh... I knew I shouldn't trust a group that was born from GG...

I'll have to get Commie now.

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Originally Posted by RyougaZell

Ugh... I knew I shouldn't trust a group that was born from GG...

I'll have to get Commie now.

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They're using Eclipse's translator you know?

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Maybe I'm over analyzing this but a couple of events didn't set well with me with this one

- First, if the zombies are only moved by sound why aren't they going after each other? Also for blinds they don't seem to trip or walk into objects all that much

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You have to take the sound trigger thing very loosely. For example, if you screamed, then stepped sideways, would the zombies only lung at the spot you were standing previously?

I thought about this too, and this is what I settled with:

ZOMBIES don't make sense. Enough of sense-making ;)

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- How exactly did a situation develop where a bus full of zombies was speeding through the highway? Transformation takes time, we've seen it, so even if one of them was infected and later transformed i don't see how it would have escalated to the situation we witnessed.

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This one's easy. It was a bus ignorantly rescuing all these injured people. Solved! :p

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- Why are Rei's spear thrusts suddenly effective against the zombies? I don't think i saw her gunning for their heads even once..

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Yeah.. this one's... difficult. I understood that they wanted to make the point earlier on, and they could have easily drawn Rei gunning for the heads. Besides censoring, I can't think of any other reason.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

Yeah.. this one's... difficult. I understood that they wanted to make the point earlier on, and they could have easily drawn Rei gunning for the heads. Besides censoring, I can't think of any other reason.

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They leveled up after beating a few zombies. Even with resistance, if the damage is high enough it will still kill it.

Seriously, the point they were trying to make last time was that the spear won't kill the zombies if you just thrust or smash at the body. This time, they were running and beating them away (not killing them, just like Busujima was doing before), so hitting the head is not necessary.

Burning seems to work very well for those passengers zombies. Next stop: Please blow your cigarette smoke at zombies to keep them at bay.(where there is smoke there is fire and zombies dont like fire)

They didn't seem to mind being on fire though.

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Originally Posted by depthcharge

Burning seems to work very well for those passengers zombies. Next stop: Please blow your cigarette smoke at zombies to keep them at bay.(where there is smoke there is fire and zombies dont like fire)

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Only problem is that burning takes some time to kill, and also causes collateral damage. It's ill advised to use it in close quarters, or in an environment you don't want to burn (eg your home/base).

One useful side effect of using fire is that you can light up the battle field using corpses and save up on batteries.

A firewall would make an awesome barrier, but it's use is limited since it consumes resources.

What these guys need is a good old castle. I wonder if you can drown a zombie.

Seriously, flame thrower should be part of every arsenal in preparation for doomsday, zombie or alien invasion.

Burn baby, burn!

i prefer sentry guns

I want more of this, NOW!

I really think they kinda NEED a second season because i can't see how they can properly end a whole "zombie apocalypse" show in only 13 episodes without rushing it abit, and i hate it when they do that.

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Originally Posted by Penner

I want more of this, NOW!

I really think they kinda NEED a second season because i can't see how they can properly end a whole "zombie apocalypse" show in only 13 episodes without rushing it abit, and i hate it when they do that.

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Well yeah, being a zombie apocalypse they can end it at any moment they want, i just hope they keep some breathing room for an hypothetical second season

both chapter 1 and chapter 2 had more than 60 pages, and they still managed to make it into 2 episodes, as far as i saw (which isnt much) the rest of the chapters had only 30~ pages, they could get like 25 chapters in 13 episodes if they rush it abit...

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Originally Posted by ForteCross

both chapter 1 and chapter 2 had more than 60 pages, and they still managed to make it into 2 episodes, as far as i saw (which isnt much) the rest of the chapters had only 30~ pages, they could get like 25 chapters in 13 episodes if they rush it abit...

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But the manga isn't finished yet, right?

No but it's going really...really slow. Thought they were only at chapter 26 now.

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

Seriously, the point they were trying to make last time was that the spear won't kill the zombies if you just thrust or smash at the body. This time, they were running and beating them away (not killing them, just like Busujima was doing before), so hitting the head is not necessary.

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Busujima made mention to Shizuka-sensei that it was much easier to simply knock them away. It is easy to just assume that she gave Rei a few pointers (or reminded her of how she should be fighting). Rei was knocking over a fair share of them, rather than going for a kill. She was yelling and freaking out in the first episode, she was much calmer here.

I have a soft spot for Takagi, besides Komuro she really is the most "normal" of the main cast. She's not particularly good at fighting, nor is she immune to panic. While she somewhat undermined their own efforts in the courtyard, she was certainly no worse than the other groups they joined up with. She might end up looking like a victim most of the time, but she serves to balance out the others. It would be kind of silly to have a group that can all fight with martial weapons or has extensive knowledge of guns this early into the outbreak.

As for that controlling, manipulative asshole of a teacher, I wonder what exactly it was that he did to Rei to make her hate him so much. I'm sure she's well justified, but she comes off as being terrified of him as much as she is angry at him. He is super easy to hate character, even if I don't really like Rei that much. That said, you have to give him a little credit. He was well aware that they might not make it to the bus, and when the perfect opportunity to create a distraction presented itself, he took it.

The only thing that grants that much hatred and the way she´s totally terrified by the teacher´s mere presence, would be having been raped by him some time in the past. Seriously, if it´s not that, she´s acting completely dumb.

Just watched episode 3, and I REALLY disliked how strong the group is now. Especially Rei, who looks like some Soul Calibur-fighter, lol.

Things I look forward to:

- Asshole-Teacher doing something awesomely cruel
- Boob-woman breast-feeding the whole group because they cant find food
- Rei being killed

I´m sure one of these will happen, maybe two... :D

I'm fine with that asshat teacher taking advantage of an opportunity. What I dislike is how he relished what he did. Normally, one is forced to do such a thing, or maybe even not care all that much, but he enjoyed it. He deserves to die a horrible death.

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This episode didn't turn out to be as suspenseful as I was anticipating. I was actually expecting Takashi to turn up at a gas station FULL of camping thugs and be completely surrounded. What actually happened was a random groping Rei. (Mind you, I was expecting a lot less groping. I'm pleasantly surprised).

Add this to like 7 minutes of recap, and you get a pretty uneventful episode with a little, but good, highlight.

I gave Takashi too much credit by thinking he threw the bat loudly on purpose to gather zombies. Perhaps the gun was plan B because the zombies didn't rock up in time, but he made no hint that it was the case.

What an uneventful episode... all those recaps were total bulshit

The recap at the beginning was ridiculous.

oh, and Rei is now officially a super-bitch. If Takashi hadn´t stopped, what would she have done? Killed the guy for...touching her tits? Fuck you, bitch. Hope she gets it back at her soon, sigh.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

The recap at the beginning was ridiculous.

oh, and Rei is now officially a super-bitch. If Takashi hadn´t stopped, what would she have done? Killed the guy for...touching her tits? Fuck you, bitch. Hope she gets it back at her soon, sigh.

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Yeah because if some huge fairy started raping the shit out of you you'd just become best friends right?

Yeah, he didn't just "touch her tits", the dude fucking held her hostage with a knife to her throat AND groped her, he had it coming.

That still doesnt warrant freaking death. And you could tell from her expression that she simply wanted revenge for having been touched. sick bitch

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Originally Posted by MFauli

That still doesnt warrant freaking death. And you could tell from her expression that she simply wanted revenge for having been touched. sick bitch

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Yeah attempted rape should just warrant a slap on the wrists, the same with attempted murder since it didn't succeed anyway amirite?

At least the molester granted them the most valuable lesson: Even in a land filled with zombies your most dangerous enemy is still another living human. I'm somewhat pleased they learned that so early and easily as it would have bothered me a lot if the story had made a bigger event out of such an elementary thing.

That also explains why, in my opinion, Rei's reaction was understandable. They had been fleeing zombies, watching them kill their fellow students and friends, and then when they suddenly met another survivor, he attacked them and worse. It was rage, disappointment, humiliation, fear, desperation, and other negativity mixed together. Not just being a vengeful bitch.

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Yeah attempted rape should just warrant a slap on the wrists, the same with attempted murder since it didn't succeed anyway amirite?

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Attempted rape != rape
Oh come on, it was just a bitchy move wanting to kill him. Again, imo, you could see it from Rei´s expression that she really simply wanted to get revenge for this guy touching her tits. Nothing else.

Hope, she´ll see a bad end in the near future.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

Attempted rape != rape

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You cannot be this fucking retarded so i'm going to choose to believe you're trolling me and ignore the matter

Seriously?

I'm not even gonna make an argument, because if you think she was in the wrong; then I doubt any argument I come up with is gonna change your way of thinking.

(Talking to MFauli)

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Originally Posted by Kraco

At least the molester granted them the most valuable lesson: Even in a land filled with zombies your most dangerous enemy is still another living human. I'm somewhat pleased they learned that so early and easily as it would have bothered me a lot if the story had made a bigger event out of such an elementary thing.

That also explains why, in my opinion, Rei's reaction was understandable. They had been fleeing zombies, watching them kill their fellow students and friends, and then when they suddenly met another survivor, he attacked them and worse. It was rage, disappointment, humiliation, fear, desperation, and other negativity mixed together. Not just being a vengeful bitch.

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That's one thing I really liked about this episode. Komuro's narration and Rei's absolute look of disgust as they drive off taught the two of them a lot. The world they knew was over.

I think this episode redeemed Rei in a number of ways. She used her knowledge of her father's work to get them a gun and extra bullets, didn't balk or cry at the deed either. Komuro certainly did. Hell, I loved the look on her face right before they drove off. Rei saw nothing but a waste of life in him. You have to feel bad for they guy, he probably went a bit out of his mind killing his entire family when they turned, but those kind of selfish acts both have and don't have their place in this new world.

Rei and Komuro used him, plain and simple. They got to escape without any difficultly after leaving him there bleeding and crying. In some ways, the two of them are as bad as he became. To survive you have to turn cold-hearted. They too only thought of themselves at that point.

But that's the world they now live in.

In my view beating (especially to death) people who are no immediate threat to you because they did something bad to you or someone you care about is morally wrong even if you really want to and they seem like they deserve it. I find it quite understandable that she wanted to make him suffer for what he put her through but revenge for the sake of revenge isn't justifiable as far as I'm concerned.

If she had actually gone through with it I wouldn't have shed many tears for the guy but I wouldn't see her as much better than him either. We're supposed to be past patting people on the back for taking the 'an eye for an eye' mentality to the extreme. I think the guy tried to rape her because she was hot and he wanted to and he thought he could get away with it (mental instability probably helped too). That's a bullshit reason to harm someone. I think she wanted to beat his ass even after he was rendered a non-threat because he made her feel scared and weak and embarrassed and because she thought she could get away with it. That is also a bullshit reason to harm someone.

P.S. For what it's worth I do think he got what was coming to him in the end.

Anarchy! At that stage, thinking about being moral and sane will put you in more danger. I think the guideline is, if I call 911 and no body picks up, i wait 15minutes and do the same for 2 more times. After that I operate in anarchy mode for 24hours and try to return to sanity again by calling 911 for help.

Anyone, who messes up in those 24hr, can't blame me for being anything other than insane. (btw being the cruel person that I am, I am probably not going to insta-kill the person after I initially disable him, i will let him die a slow painful death)

It was probably actually worse to just leave him there without finishing him off.

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Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles

It was probably actually worse to just leave him there without finishing him off.

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Lol, true

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Originally Posted by MFauli

The recap at the beginning was ridiculous.

oh, and Rei is now officially a super-bitch. If Takashi hadn´t stopped, what would she have done? Killed the guy for...touching her tits? Fuck you, bitch. Hope she gets it back at her soon, sigh.

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He was going to make her his sex slave.

If someone wanted to make me their sex slave, I


... probably won't kill them neither.

What irked me was how Takashi waited so long before acting. Was he going to stand and look if that guy just decided to rape Rei on the spot? He was close enough to the guy anyway to worry about missing. Just point it at him and scare the shit through him.

If this is how he's going to use a gun, he should just stick with the bat.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

He was going to make her his sex slave.

If someone wanted to make me their sex slave, I


... probably won't kill them neither.

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Clever how you purposely omitted the sexuality of your imaginary assaulter

Maybe he doesn't mind?

Beggar cant be choosers!

I simply refuse to accept that what the guy did was enough to grant him death. Even moreso when it was clear that Rei just wanted to get revenge on him. Had she kicked him in the stomache while he was laying on the ground, that would have been reasonable. But charging a baseball bat, probably aiming for his head? Yeah, not okay. For me, this scene really hurt Rei´s character, and I´m not routing for her anymore.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

He was going to make her his sex slave.

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Which would have been incredibly hot if the anime-producers had shown that :p

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What irked me was how Takashi waited so long before acting. Was he going to stand and look if that guy just decided to rape Rei on the spot? He was close enough to the guy anyway to worry about missing. Just point it at him and scare the shit through him.

If this is how he's going to use a gun, he should just stick with the bat.

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I disagree. I think he handled the situation very well. Handling a gun is not as easy as it seems, and with the guy holding Rei so close, there is a decent chance of hitting her if he shoots from a distance.

The reason why he didn't act immediately was because the guy had the knife near Rei's throat, and was prepared to kill her if he had moved suddenly. Pointing the gun at him is also a bad idea, since it will only make him go nuts (especially if he gets scared) and he might just hurt/kill Rei in the process.

In the scene when Takashi was slowly moving towards the guy, he managed to piss the guy off enough for him to point his hostility (and knife) towards Takashi. He managed to use this chance well too.

@Mfauli - As expected.

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I disagree. I think he handled the situation very well. Handling a gun is not as easy as it seems, and with the guy holding Rei so close, there is a decent chance of hitting her if he shoots from a distance.

The reason why he didn't act immediately was because the guy had the knife near Rei's throat, and was prepared to kill her if he had moved suddenly. Pointing the gun at him is also a bad idea, since it will only make him go nuts (especially if he gets scared) and he might just hurt/kill Rei in the process.

In the scene when Takashi was slowly moving towards the guy, he managed to piss the guy off enough for him to point his hostility (and knife) towards Takashi. He managed to use this chance well too.

@Mfauli - As expected.

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Was that the only instance where the dude's knife moved away from Rei? I thought there were earlier opportunities, though not necessarily directing the knife away, but pulling away.

While physical distance is quite important, what is even more important is the target of the person holding the knife. If he just suddenly dashed in and startled the maniac, chances are he would have slashed Rei's throat because that is what his mind is focused on. Moving his hand a foot or two is still much faster than Takashi running more than 10 feet.

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

While physical distance is quite important, what is even more important is the target of the person holding the knife. If he just suddenly dashed in and startled the maniac, chances are he would have slashed Rei's throat because that is what his mind is focused on. Moving his hand a foot or two is still much faster than Takashi running more than 10 feet.

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He shouldn't have to rush in. My idea is that since the knifer is giving Takashi the freedom to move, he could have used it to his advantage.

The scenario in my head is that he just finds a suitable time where he can blend the action of placing his hand on the gun into whatever he was doing at the time. The knifer's already let his guard down since he threw away the bat and is a distance away from him, not to mention he was rather preoccupied with something else half the time.

All you have to do is then draw, aim, and tell HIM to freeze. The air of confidence is what's required, not the actual chance of hitting the knifer. Verbally nailing the idea that bullets are faster than his hand into the knifer's head while casually walking forwards will then distract and freeze him while you close in on a distance where you can reliably take him out.

You first move in to disable him mentally.

Then physically.

I get the idea, but it's a very risky plan. The guy was admittedly crazy, so yelling freeze and pointing a gun at him can cause him to behave in a number of irrational ways. Takashi's plan was more straightforward and reliable, although I admit it did involve a lot more patience.