chapter 253-256 discussion

[ChaosK]

Hey, i thought these have been pretty nice..i like how Gai is a little kakashi like and has no clue who kisame is i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Death BOO Z]

I'm gonna play the devil here and say that I hope Kisame wins this fight and kills at least one person from those four, and makes them retreat away to save thier puny asses...

of course, we all know it won't happen, since Kishimoto couldn't kill a 'good' charecter even if his career depended on it.

other than that, it seems that Kishimoto said "screw the foreshadowing, i'll just tell the readers everything' now all that's left is to see Sasuke killing itachi and Giant tail monster fighting against Nine Tailed naruto..

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

screw the fourshadowing, bro this has been goin on forever. I thought 256 was a great chapter.

[Assertn]

it does feel rushed though.....
i wonder if the 2 pupils on that statue mean that they've already taken 2 demons prior to gaara, or if gaara is the second demon

hopefully the latter, the more demons that are roaming about, the better

[Mr.X]

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when i first saw that thing in the akatsuki cave, i immediately thought it looked like this summon on FF10.

[SK]

256 was a cool chapter, i hope kakashi has something up his sleeve for itachi. btw did forums just come back?

[ChaosK]

or maybe during the 2½ year duration they already captured all but garra and naruto (now they just need naruto?)

i really look foward in itachi vs. naruto,sakura,kakashi and...old lady? [lol]

yes they seem to be rushing it a bit... both parties are already pretty much inside the perminiter of akatsuki. This seems like its gonna be one of those "attack the base" thing with different lvls of enemies...which means it wont be so exciting after all??

[Death BOO Z]

actually, the statue reminds me a bit of Adam from NGE...
is it good or bad, i do not know, but it's defintally intresting

[SK]

i want to know who the other demon kids are...

[LobsterMagnet]

YEAH forums are back up. Yes I've sadly missed not having a place to discuss the latest naruto chapters.

Is it just me or does it seem like poor kisame is getting his ass beaten down badly. I almost feel sorry for the guy. He didn't seem that special to begin with but then again maybe he was holding back. Can't wait to see more of the fight. Also what do you guys think will happen with the whole naruto's group vs. itachi. We have no idea how much they've all improved so for all we know they could send him packing.

Atasuki arc seems like it's really going to build up to the ultimate climax of the series. Wouldn't surprise me if the series ends after the atasuki arc finishes up. Unless kishimoto can plant some more future plot lines. Then again this arc isn't going to be over for a while. We still don't know what the fricking atsuki's objective is or why all of these high level ninja have decided to join up. We still need some back story for the other atkaski members plus more backstory for the seven other demons. Yesh 18 pages a week is not enough to get all the stuff we want to see.

Also what do you guys think will happen when the old woman meets up with Sasori. Think she'll give him cookies and he'll decide to go home and stop playing with such dangerous people?

[basey44]

well she said she was going to give him some love, ill let u use ur imagination there

[Masamune]

hurray for forums up!

been some pretty exciting chapters.

hoping kisame whoops gai's ass........with his giant popsicle

http://www.imageark.net/image.php?id=105598

[basey44]

damn u i was gonna post that pic after i finished eating i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif

[Deblas]

I am really impressed with Naruto. He has improved a lot! And that wind attack Neji did. Truly kickass

[Masamune]

Originally posted by: basey_69
damn u i was gonna post that pic after i finished eating

muwhaha ph34r the popsicle's swiftness

[kaigan]

things are getting sweeter and sweeter. the lead guy from the akatsuki with the round eyes, his shadow looks like the fourth. pretty interesting.

[LobsterMagnet]

Grrrrr I want some more back story about the other atsuki members. One thing I can't wait to see is the confrontation between Sasori and his grandmother.

Sasori: Hahahahahaha now I shall disembowl you with my tail and use your entrails to write my name but not before pumping you with agonizing poison hahahahahahahaha.

Grandma: Sasori it's me your grand mother.

Sasori: Grandma? GRANDMA!!!!

Grandma: How could you have fallen with such a bad crowd your parents did all the right things we sent you to summer camp, Hebrew school, and we gave you that puppy for christmas. We even let you play with your dolls when all the other boys laughed at you. It's time to take you back, you need to spend some time in the D.A.R.E. prorgame with Scruff Mcgruff. He'll take a bite out your homocidal tendencies.

Sasori: Grandma I'm a grown up I don't need you to make my descisions for me! I have my own income and I even pay my own taxes I don't need you to baby me.

Grandma: Yes you do, your all skin and bones come here and have some of my trademark chicken soup. Remember to eat all your dumplings your a growing boy.

[Lefty]

I just want to see the Naruto Itachi fight. This will be a good opertunity to show off naruto's new skills. I soooooo want naruto to surprise the living crap out of Itachi. Not beat him but give the guy a run for his money for a while.

[Roko]

neji pawns! i wanna see what new hyuuga skills he's developed w/ the lead guy of the house

[nests]

Also what do you guys think will happen when the old woman meets up with Sasori. Think she'll give him cookies and he'll decide to go home and stop playing with such dangerous people?
I think this old lady was put in here so she can die. Insted of killing a main character put in a somewhat important one and killed it.

As for Kisame it is way to early in the figth to tell was going to happend but I like that it actually looks like they are going to do a 4 vs1 figth insted of you usual 1 on 1.

Itachi is defenetly is going to kick Team 7's ass since he seems to be the main bad guy right now and it just wouldn't go well if someone other than sasuke kill him.

Ok one more thing what ever happen to that guy that helped Sasori and Deidara invade the sand village. I think we will see him in the non to distanat future.

[Assertn]

kakashi's gonna end up fighting sasori....and here's why.......

the old lady attempted avenge her son by attacking kakashi, because she thought he was the white fang
this would suggest that the white fang killed her son.
which would therefore suggest that kakashi's dad killed sasori's dad

and correlations like these are often way too easy to pass up on without making some sort of confrontation.

[Masamune]

Itachi should make short work of team 7. Naruto shouldn't have progressed that much.
sexy no jutstu wont work on itachi. see below : D
http://www.imageark.net/image.php?id=105677

maybe grandma will stay behind to delay itachi while team 7 make a getaway

[Terracosmo]

SO FUCKING GOOD!! The manga has never been this badass. Neji is cooler than ever, Kisame rules, and Itachi is back. ORGASM!

There will probably be new characters now when it's official that there are more demons and hosts, that will kick ass. BTW see that big thingy that the Akatsuki has... it has a lot of eyes, fancy they open as they gain more demons?

But wonder what their ultimate objective is...

[SK]

im thinkin kakashi will have something up his sleeve for itachi, i dont think he would be willing to have a confrontation with itachi if he didnt think he had a shot.
edit: btw whats goin on with inane and narutofan?

[Zhan]

lol yeh i reckon kakashi would do a lot better against itachi this time...esp when he has backup lol
narutofan and inane? i thought inane fucking hated their guts or something

[Souryusen]

Wow... I've been waiting for weeks to be able to post saying Neji looks girlier than Tenten and that's no slight towards our ranged-weapon master either.

I suppose it's too much to hope that somebody kills Itachi in the next chapter.

[basey44]

if someone killed itachi wat would sasuke do, would he just suicide or would he keep having anal with oro?

bloody hell cant belive we still havent seen him

[SK]

itachi dying/getting beat would fuck up the whole point of sasuke.

[Assertn]

i still dont think sasuke will be the one to finish off itachi

[Dezalanel]

Whoah! Gotwoot is back up finally! Anyways the manga has been GREAT since the forums have been down. Speaking of the latest chapter I would like to say that the two pupils that are filled on the Death God statue definitly means Akatsuki has already got two of the bouj and the Shukaku is the third I think. Also Itachi vrs Team 7 so soon!?!?!? I was really suprized. Either someone is going to stay behind while the rest go ahead somehow or Itachi is going to meet his downfall and it will give Sasuke a huuuge reason to hate Naruto more.

[Stoopider]

Somehow I got the feeling Sakura is going to do something stupid knowing that their fighting Itachi. She has said before, about Sasuke wanting to kill his brother and she'll want to be the one who kills him. Although I'm not much of a Itachi fan-boy. I'm going to think that Naruto has something up his sleeves in case he meets up with any akatsuki. Jiraiya can't be teaching him peanuts for the last 3 years to prepare him against Akatsukis.

"If you see an Akatsuki.. RUN FORRES *cough* Naruto RUN!!"

Naruto would probably use 'That' technique, and Sakura would do something stupid and Itachi would run away. I think 4vs1 might be too much to handle for Itachi.

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On the other hand. It might eventually still become a 1v1 between Gai and Kisame. Kisame is supposed to have the most ammount of chakra. So he'll probably start summoning some creatures for Rock Lee, Ten Ten and Neji to fight with. And Kisame is Neji's worst nightmare. Kisame's sword sucks chakra remember?

[LobsterMagnet]

For all we know the old woman could wind up owning itachi.

Although I really don't see where that fight is going to go. Itachi can't get his ass beat down because it would ruin the whole sasuke revenge thing. He can't win that easily either or else it means that the time jump didn't do shit to improve naruto or sakura. We still don't know what their capable of. Remeber Kakashi did say he develeoped a new technique of some sort. Maybe he'll scare itachi away with that.

[jing]

Originally posted by: Stoopider
Somehow I got the feeling Sakura is going to do something stupid knowing that their fighting Itachi. She has said before, about Sasuke wanting to kill his brother and she'll want to be the one who kills him. Although I'm not much of a Itachi fan-boy. I'm going to think that Naruto has something up his sleeves in case he meets up with any akatsuki. Jiraiya can't be teaching him peanuts for the last 3 years to prepare him against Akatsukis.

"If you see an Akatsuki.. RUN FORRES *cough* Naruto RUN!!"

Naruto would probably use 'That' technique, and Sakura would do something stupid and Itachi would run away. I think 4vs1 might be too much to handle for Itachi.

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On the other hand. It might eventually still become a 1v1 between Gai and Kisame. Kisame is supposed to have the most ammount of chakra. So he'll probably start summoning some creatures for Rock Lee, Ten Ten and Neji to fight with. And Kisame is Neji's worst nightmare. Kisame's sword sucks chakra remember?

4vs1 is too much for itachi? he............wiped out his clan!

[Y]

Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
itachi dying/getting beat would fuck up the whole point of sasuke.

And when it happens, he'll have to deal with that too.

[Shin_Naruto]

Grandma = Ensen Expendable


I don't agree that Kisame is at a disadvantage or even weak.

If hes in the Akatsuki then we know he's a badass. He's got high chakra (thanks Neji) and thats with 30% of it going to Gara. He's got a sword whose powers are very little known - and the one aspect of it we have seen suggest some serious ability.

TenTen = girl... so worthless. He can take her out quick enough - just get close to her.
Neji = make him use the Kaiten and shove your chakra eating sword right into that swirl. Lunch is served.
Gai = never seen him fight.. will be an intresting fight. I dont see Gai coming out on top though... heres why:
Rock Lee = The swords ability seemingly doesn't hurt him... he may have the best chance. I can see it now... Kisame has Gai down on the ground... he attacks with water and Rock Lee shows up - knocking it out of the way and giving Kisame the 'eye' (ala Gai to Rock Lee) *A ninjas true power comes out when he protects someone important to him*

Waiting sucks.

[greateachermin]

kakashi vs itachi.... the cool vs the cool,
they're both exactly the same character..
but one is good and the other one is a badass...
i would hate to see either of them loose...
i dont think i full fight will breakout at this point, since its 4vs1...
no matter how strong u think Itachi is, he is at a disadvantage...

[Sidnne]

I'm glad the forum is finally back up... its been gone too long.

Going back a few chapters to when the Grandma tried to attack Kakashi and Naruto stepped in front to stop her. Its seems that if Naruto was able to react before Kakashi did and block the Grandma's attacks that he would have had to move pretty damn quick... I'm wondering if he used the Body Flicker there. But as the chapters came and went I would have expected to see some mention of it, maybe some surprised reaction by Kakashi.

Any up to 256. Pretty cool chapter. I liked how Kisame thought he was going to have a simple battle with Gai and then the rest of the team jumped in without hesitation.

I can't wait to see Sakura kick Itachi's ass. Although one would think that since she had been doing all this research on Itachi and the whole Ataksuki situation, that she would have at least known who he was when she saw him. sheesh.




or maybe during the 2½ year duration they already captured all but garra and naruto (now they just need naruto?)

There would have to be at least 3 others (including Gaara and Naruto) because Sasori still hasn't located his target and it couldn't be Naruto because he is Itachi's target.

[Death BOO Z]

just a question? in the last chapter, didn't Neji shoot chackra from his hands and attack from a distance?

I can accept the gentle fist fighting as legit, but chackra blasting from a distance? come on! they did it in DBZ and it sucked so much that they stopped it after two fights, so i really can't stand it...
and tenten, just throwing bigget lumps of knives... pretty darn lame, if you ask me

I have a feeling that once Gai remembers Kisame he'll say "you're THAT akatsuki member! there's no need to hold back against you!" and then get into gear and kick kisame's ass like nothing counts.

then again, they might turn this fight into something serious, maybe Kisame will use the chackra eating sword to seal off Neji's powers, which will put him out of the story without killing him, and still leave him a chance to fight one last time to protect the hyuuga clan.
and by the way, when Neji said that Kisame has as much Chackra as Naruto, isn't the last time he felt Naruto's chackra during the fight in the chunin exam? that was about 3 years ago, and two power-ups ago, meanning that Naruto's chackra is now immensly above Kisame's?

[LobsterMagnet]

I liked Tentens sticky explosive complete with knives to be used as shrapnel. She always struck me as one of the better female leaf genins if not the best. I hope she dosen't just go down easily after a few thwacks of kisame's sword.

Also might seem like old news but I thought that after Rock Lee, Ten Ten, and Neji became chuunin/jounin they would split away from gai as their jounin leader. Why are they still with him as opposed to working independently on other missions? Well guess it dosen't matter to much it kicks alot of ass to have all three of them kicking ass with new techniques.

[Assertn]

kisame and itachi are going to win their matches.....
not to say that anyone will die though, i doubt we'll see any deaths between these 2 matches, but we all know itachi can't lose, and i think kisame is due for some more recognition.

[Sidnne]

kisame and itachi are going to win their matches.....
not to say that anyone will die though, i doubt we'll see any deaths between these 2 matches, but we all know itachi can't lose, and i think kisame is due for some more recognition.

They don't have to win. They could be outmatched in a 4 vs 1 and just do enough to delay the Konoha shinobi for a while and then escape like they did the last time vs Jiraiya.

Obviously Itachi and Kisame aren't going to die since they have bigger roles in the story to be cut off now. Other than Sasuke's storyline with Itachi, they are still channeling that jutsu to extract the yoma. If they are killed then Ataksuki won't be able to complete the jutsu and it kills the dramatic race to save Gaara.

But it is likely that Kisame and Itachi will be defeated here. Remember, they are using Kage Bunshin to channel the jutsu. So as they are right now, they aren't nearly as strong as they would be under normal circumstances. So either they will be realize that they outmatched and then retreat, or it will turn out that Konoha is fighting Kage Bunshins and they will think they have killed them only to have Itachi's and Kisame's bodies go up in a puff of smoke.

[Assertn]

you do realize, that the jutsu will take over 3 days, right?
if itachi and kisame are going to settle for just "delaying" the konoha, then they'll have to fight for several days

also, it would hurt itachi's character too much for him to lose to the opponents he's facing right now.
he made it distinctly clear that kakashi's sharingan is no match for his own....and im inclined to agree that kakashi will never lay a finger on itachi throughout this whole series. Naruto and Sakura mustve gotten stronger, but it'll still be BS for them to do anything to an akatsuki. The old woman.....well....we have no idea what she can do

[Sidnne]

Kisame and Itachi are not at full strength. They are using Kage Bunshin, so their chakra is already cut in half, plus they are using chakra to channel the extraction jutsu. It is extremely feasible for them to lose 4 vs 1 in their current state.

And I didn't mean that they would keep Konoha occupied for the duration of the jutsu. Akatsuki obviously thinks they can win, so their intention is not to merely delay. But they will succeed in delaying konoha for at least a short while for the sake of drama. If they stopped them for the full 3 days then that would mean Akatsuki succeeds in doing whatever it is they intend to do to Gaara, and its likely that Konoha will succeed in somehow rescueing him. (whether or not he will still have the Shukaku remains to be seen).

[Jman]

these past couple of chapters have been really kickass

[Knives122]

Originally posted by: Sidnne
and its likely that Konoha will succeed in somehow rescueing him. (whether or not he will still have the Shukaku remains to be seen).

yeah that seems likely, but I have a feeling that Kishi will have Gaara loose his demon(but then again what do I know)

but about Itachi being there, its pretty obvious that they(team 7 +baka woman) will fight but knowing how most things are in this manga and knowing that everyone there has improved(but we dont know how much obviously)(dont know about the sand woman) Im going to make a semi-educated/ignorant guess that they will make Itachi retreat for some mystical reason(b/c having Itachi obliterate everyone and taking Naruto would just be stupid at this time)

[Jaredster]

The only way I can think Kakashi can counter Itachis sharingan is to look at his feet and predict his attacks by that, but I don't know if that counters mangekyou sharingan.

[Assertn]

who says the only way to get to gaara would be through kisame and itachi? there are plenty of unexpected events that could occur between now and 3 days from now

[Jaredster]

http://img164.echo.cx/img164/8769/hope9lt.jpg

I wonder.

[Stoopider]

Originally posted by: jing


4vs1 is too much for itachi? he............wiped out his clan!


True. But I don't think Jiraiya thaught Naruto nuts to counter Akatsuki's. Probably has something to use or do for emergencies.

[Raven]

Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
just a question? in the last chapter, didn't Neji shoot chackra from his hands and attack from a distance?

I can accept the gentle fist fighting as legit, but chackra blasting from a distance? come on! they did it in DBZ and it sucked so much that they stopped it after two fights, so i really can't stand it...
It was just an open-palmed strike. What looked like chakra blasts were just illustrations to demonstrate the force behind the attack. I'm pretty sure he connected his hand.

Anyway, in this fight against Itachi, I'm guessing we'll see Naruto's "that jutsu" that Jiraiya told him not to use, which will probably allow for their escape after Itachi wipes the floor with them.

[Dezalanel]

He did not connect with his hand. It is a new technique. He injected chakra from a distance. Which is great for Neji because they gives him some range now.

[Marks]

Who knows maybe Jiraya is close by doing some research... Btw the thing about Kisame summoning stuff. I believe Gai can summon turtles. Rebember when they were going to sign up for the chunnin exam and the Lee vs Sauske fight got stopped by a turtle.

[piasEnigma]

Gai CAN infact summon turtles, but there are many techniques we see few of in naruto.
Like sasukes wire shizz.
Or the Amaterasu.
Probably a few more, that was just waiting to NEVER BE SHOWN AGIAN.
(note, this does not really apply to the amaterasu much, because it is still "unknown" to the charaters of the anime and will deffently be shown agian.)

[ChaosK]

itachi and kisame will lose... here anyway, well acctually itachi will kick ass unless naruto, sakura, kakashi AND old lady all use their secret jutsus, to stand a chance, so far nobody seems to have contridicted my thought of this being another "INVADE THE BASE" things...

[Jaredster]

I don't know, I think the Kishimoto is going to reserve those jutsus for later in the arc.

[Roko]

I think that it will be a 3-way fight, with sasuke and oro arriving to fight itachi and naruto+co. The fight begins, and naruto+co. will be able to escape in the middle of the fight while Itachi is preoccupied w/ oro and sasuke. at least thats what I think is gonna happen...and to me, it makes sense since kishimoto has to have sasuke show up sooner or later, and this timing is quite perfect for his entrance.

[Sidnne]

Originally posted by: Roko
I think that it will be a 3-way fight, with sasuke and oro arriving to fight itachi and naruto+co. The fight begins, and naruto+co. will be able to escape in the middle of the fight while Itachi is preoccupied w/ oro and sasuke. at least thats what I think is gonna happen...and to me, it makes sense since kishimoto has to have sasuke show up sooner or later, and this timing is quite perfect for his entrance.

I don't see any chance of that happening simply because it changes the entire arc and current plotline. This arc is about Akatsuki's ambitions and currently a race to save Gaara. If Sasuke and Oro show up now, it would mean getting very far off track from the current plot.

I don't think we will be seeing Sasuke anytime soon except in some cameos or flashbacks.

[Roko]

Originally posted by: Sidnne


Originally posted by: Roko
I think that it will be a 3-way fight, with sasuke and oro arriving to fight itachi and naruto+co. The fight begins, and naruto+co. will be able to escape in the middle of the fight while Itachi is preoccupied w/ oro and sasuke. at least thats what I think is gonna happen...and to me, it makes sense since kishimoto has to have sasuke show up sooner or later, and this timing is quite perfect for his entrance.

I don't see any chance of that happening simply because it changes the entire arc and current plotline. This arc is about Akatsuki's ambitions and currently a race to save Gaara. If Sasuke and Oro show up now, it would mean getting very far off track from the current plot.

I don't think we will be seeing Sasuke anytime soon except in some cameos or flashbacks.

well, there is a chance, since it will provide a distraction for naruto to get away and go for gaara. it will prob make more sense if kakashi reminded naruto of their main priority (we all know what naruto's reaction will be on seeing sasuke), and forces naruto to go get gaara with the old lady, while kakashi stays behind with sakura in the battle. I understand what your saying about this arc being akatsuki's, but this is only a theory which may or may not come true. we will see what happens.

also, Oro's appearance does have something to do with akatsuki, since he was previously a member of akatsuki. maybe he know's their plans...?

[Franggio]

For reall, this was pretty lousy to push it this fast, only thing that will satisfy me now is if Kakashi and Sakura stays to fight It-chan
So Naruto and Chiyo can go on. And Sasuke doesn't show up cuz Orochimaru has already "eaten" him.

Yeah that would satisfy me, atleast the part about Sasuke

[ChaosK]

umm...did we relinquish the fact that they could be kage bushins?

[basey44]

yep, ur a little behind chaos

edit: wait relinquish? so they arent kagebunshins? dammit now u confused me

[ChaosK]

Originally posted by: Roko
I think that it will be a 3-way fight, with sasuke and oro arriving to fight itachi and naruto+co. The fight begins, and naruto+co. will be able to escape in the middle of the fight while Itachi is preoccupied w/ oro and sasuke. at least thats what I think is gonna happen...and to me, it makes sense since kishimoto has to have sasuke show up sooner or later, and this timing is quite perfect for his entrance.


if itachi and kisame are not at full power and are merely kage bushins then they probably wouldnt stand a chance...itachi would be able to pull off probably 1 mangekyou sharingan but that cant possible hit everybody.
After the mangekyou sharingan then itachi's kagebushin's chakra would be depleted and so it would be easy for naruto and sakura to destroy the kage bushin while kakashi is withering on the ground as an effect from mangekyou sharingan...

[Roko]

that is possible too, although I'd really like to see sasuke again, not cuz I like him a lot or anythin, but cuz I wanna see what jutsus and skills he can do know (and yes, the fight between him and naruto which is fated to happen)

[kAi]

I think this fight will be alot better for Team Kakashi, then how it all went down when Itachi and Kisame infiltrated Konoha. Kakashi will be able to stand up to him, along with Naruto. If Itachi uses the Mangekyou Sharingan I don't think it will hit everyone, I don't even think he will be using it.

[Hellraiser]

Doesn't seem like it's been mentioned, but in Chapter 256 pg. 16, the monster thing summoned (below) is shown to have 9 eyes, 7 of which are blank. Perhaps this indicates how many of the "Tailed Beasts" they've captured so far?
http://img247.echo.cx/img247/985/untitled2ty.jpg

[Roko]

hehe, actually, we had a full discussion of that i another thread

[ChaosK]

Originally posted by: Hellraiser
Doesn't seem like it's been mentioned, but in Chapter 256 pg. 16, the monster thing summoned (below) is shown to have 9 eyes, 7 of which are blank. Perhaps this indicates how many of the "Tailed Beasts" they've captured so far?

its been said somewhere...



i'm still pretty sure taht itachi and kisame are kage bushin's fighting the konoha ninjas and a kage bushin shouldnt be able to pull off a intense mangekyou sharingan as normal itachi could.

[Assertn]

and i still think it would be pointless for them to come out of hiding to defend their base without intending to go all out

[Hakeem_21]

Chaoskiddo

"The leader" of the ritaul said from the begining take care of you real body while your bunshin is doing the ritual,so Itachi and Kisama are the real ones no clones.

If you dont believe me go and reread the chap they begin the ritual.