Gaara vs Kimimaro

[Mae]

Who knows if Kimi will ever fight Sasuke, but it looks like this fight is up next.

IMO, Kimi is excellent against physical fighters like Lee, but how is he going to fight sand? One desert coffin and he's finished. Unless, of course, Lee interferes...

[AniFreak]

I can think of one way kimi can get out of desert coffin, make a suit of armor out of his bones. Lol But your right, one desert coffin and he is dead. *REMOVED* i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif I hoping it won't be a short cheap fight like that.

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[Jurojin]

I don't know if Lee would interfere or not..... I mean, there's the whole "It's my fight" thing that Lee would prolly do, sense of honor and everything.

As far as Gaara vs. Kimi, it depends- if Kimi goes all out, he could possibly pierce through the sand (it's happened before), and if he does that spinny thing, the sand won't be able to get on him well enough to squish him.

[CheesyPuffs144]

From Gaara's comments (or probably comment, since he didn't say that much this episode), I don't think that Gaara believes Lee is capable of fighting Kimi in his current state.

[Tohan]

Spinny thing doesn't matter against the sand, it's too fluctuant. His spinning can't catch a big lump of sand and deflect that. What I do believe is that a bone armor will protect him against desert coffin, then Gaara has to be inventive i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif He has probably had some training while he was back in his village, since he's friendly now and all. Not just Deset coffin, desert coffin, desert coffin, desert coffin. Plus, now he knows his sand is penetrateable, and probably knows alot more about using the sand. I can't see Gaara losing this fight, I know it won't just finish like the other fights. But, there's something about Gaara now. His confidence looks like it has changed.

Edit: Almost forgot, put a pair of glasses on him and it's Tommy Pickles again!

[AniFreak]

Another way Kimi could escape desert coffin would be to release his seals and fight with speed. But Tohan is right I don't see Gara losing this one. Even if Kimi somehow defeats Gara, theres still Lee to fight not to mention the 2 other sand ninjas.

[Jaredster]

Originally posted by: Jurojin
I don't know if Lee would interfere or not..... I mean, there's the whole "It's my fight" thing that Lee would prolly do, sense of honor and everything.

As far as Gaara vs. Kimi, it depends- if Kimi goes all out, he could possibly pierce through the sand (it's happened before), and if he does that spinny thing, the sand won't be able to get on him well enough to squish him.

Gaara will probably tell Lee to stfu, since Gaara is focused on their mission.

But Lee may just fight Kimi anyways.

[shawn]

btu remember kimi still has his level 2 seal curse..theres bound to be an epic fight..i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif..i hope

[kooshi]

An epic fight, eh? Probably the 3 sand vs Kimi, haha. If Kimi can fight evenly against those 3, that would be just awesome.

[Prof. Chaos]

I just hope they make the fight into more than just 1 episode.

And if the Chidori can go through Gaara's sand, then Kimimaro's bones should be able to as well.

[Mut]

No... Chidori is nothing like Kimimaro's bones.

[Prof. Chaos]

I just like spreading speculation and see what the non-manga readers will behaive to a new situation that I bring up.

[kooshi]

Chidori able to pierce Kimimaro's bones...... well, from what I have seen so far, it's like a 50-50 split for the moment. We've already seen Sasuke pierce the water tank easily with lots of damage, but then again, the metal wasn't meant to withstand that kind of attack. If it had layers and layers of metal, then the Chidori might (and note that MIGHT) still pierce it. As Kimimaro mentioned, his bones can become harder than metal. From this, I can't really decide, but maybe someone else can speculate as well.

[Jurojin]

Originally posted by: Prof. Chaos
I just like spreading speculation and see what the non-manga readers will behaive to a new situation that I bring up.

That's because you're Prof. Chaos- it's your job in here, isn't it? To cause Chaos, panic and destruction?

[miaka]

well gaara does stand a chance against kimi.. but sasuke? definitely not.. especially with the state he is in now...!!

and with chidori... it's so easy to avoid...

i think chidori should be able to pierce kimi's bones.. but it also might depend on how much bones (layers ... or concentration of calcuim) kimi uses..since his is supposd to be harder than steel

[Jurojin]

Erm, could we not go into Sasuke Vs Kimi? That's a different thread that doesn't need to spill over into here.

As for Gaara, my contention is with the fact that he doesn't have much of an edge, if any, vs. high-speed opponents- sure, the sand will block a punch/kick/kunai, but the speed of the sand is only so much- he wouldn't be able to Desert Coffin a hi-speed target. Heck, he couldn't do much to lee when he was moving around at high speeds- only when Lee stopped moving was when Gaara was able to beat him. Kimi, being smarter, we assume, would stay at a constant high-speed, aided by his seal, negating Gaara's ability to do dmg, since he'll be on the defensive.

IMO.

[ChaosK]

i'm pretty sure garra will win and make lee shut up. Was lee planning on using reverse renge against kimi? he kept saying he would use his suicide technique... and since all the other sand-nins got new techniques i'm pretty sure garra has something else besides desert coffin.

[Nai]

Seeing how much stronger the other Sand Nin's has become I must go with Gaara on this one. He was always the strongest of the three by far.

[KitKat]

First off I just want to say THANK YOU Mae, for putting the spoiler warning in the title. Sometimes people who watch the ep right away want to start talking about it in a bunch of other threads, and those of us who wait for the Aone release wander in and inadvertently get spoiled. So it was nice to know to steer clear of this thread till I watched the ep.

As for the Gaara vs Kimi fight, I think this is going to be quite interesting. They definitely recognized each other, and probably have a good idea of each others strengths and patterns of attack. I think that aspect will bring this fight up a notch as each will have to think harder to outwit his opponent. It seems to me that Gaara will have an advantage in that he is a long-range fighter whereas Kimi is more suited for close combat. However, Kimi seems to have speed comparable to Lee, which may enable him to get past Gaara's sand. There's still so much we don't know about Kimi. I think this fight will be pretty even.

[PiLotZeroSix]

i highly doubt Kimi has such speed as fast a Lee, when Lee open the first gate he was scared of his speed and said " Impress Speed " and stopped Rock Lee attack. AS for Kimi Vs Gaara, Gaara would win. remember Gaara has alot of tricks up his sleeves like his whole body is armor and when the armor breaks he turns into the sand demon and if he even does Kimi is squashed.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: PiLotZeroSix
i highly doubt Kimi has such speed as fast a Lee, when Lee open the first gate he was scared of his speed and said " Impress Speed " and stopped Rock Lee attack. AS for Kimi Vs Gaara, Gaara would win. remember Gaara has alot of tricks up his sleeves like his whole body is armor and when the armor breaks he turns into the sand demon and if he even does Kimi is squashed.
wtf. Are you dumb? Kimimaro is faster than Lee. We know this cuz his reactions were faster than Lee's lame ass speed. And where was Kimimaro scared?

[Jaredster]

Originally posted by: PiLotZeroSix
i highly doubt Kimi has such speed as fast a Lee, when Lee open the first gate he was scared of his speed and said " Impress Speed " and stopped Rock Lee attack. AS for Kimi Vs Gaara, Gaara would win. remember Gaara has alot of tricks up his sleeves like his whole body is armor and when the armor breaks he turns into the sand demon and if he even does Kimi is squashed.

Oh yea, he looked REAL scared. Take a look for yourself.

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/1040/realscared2ce.jpg

[PiLotZeroSix]

OK HE WASNT THAT SCARED BUT FROM wat he said HE WAS IMPRESSED. and besides if Rock Lee DID HAVE the chance to go extreme lotus he woulda whoop sum ass but BCUZ OF HIS surgery he cant

[Terracosmo]

rofl, Kimimaro is practically stunned with fear.

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: PiLotZeroSix
OK HE WASNT THAT SCARED BUT FROM wat he said HE WAS IMPRESSED. and besides if Rock Lee DID HAVE the chance to go extreme lotus he woulda whoop sum ass but BCUZ OF HIS surgery he cant

He was trying to do the secondary lotus however, kimimaro wouldn't allow it. I don't think doing anything else would have helped other than if lee didn't recently under go surgery and opened all his gates, but then we don't know what kimi could do at level 2.

[chambers]

im not sure based on the evidence so far that kimmi is faster than rock, although its clear he wasnt even slightley bothered. for all we know the bones coming out of his body to stop contact could be an involuntary act like gaaras sand. if not it only shows his reactions to be faster so far, not his actuall movement. on the other hand i think if kimmi IS faster than rock, then gaara doesnt stand a chance unless hes got some new uber technique. if he can bypass the shield then gaara is toast, sand armour is all well and good vs physical attacks with blunt weapons, but if you pierce it with somthing in a stabbing movement, its still a pierceing. it will still kill hurt or mame him.

anyone know if they are implying that rock has his weights off by default now?

[DB_Hunter]

I think he stil has them on... since when he took them of flast you could hardly track him. Also, I don't think he will take them off since that is only allowed to hapen if he is protecting someone special or some other crap like that... when he did it against Gaara he had direct permission from Gai to do so.

[ChaosK]

Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
I think he stil has them on... since when he took them of flast you could hardly track him. Also, I don't think he will take them off since that is only allowed to hapen if he is protecting someone special or some other crap like that... when he did it against Gaara he had direct permission from Gai to do so.

lee jus went through surgery and he was barely able to walk before, wat makes u think he'd put the weights back on so soon? it would be making it MUCH harder for himself in his current condition. and... kimi was not scared at all of lee... all he said wuz he was impressed, probably because he doesnt kno many people other than himself w/ such good speed.

hey isnt kimi still sick? that kinda puts garra at an advantage also because garra probably has some new move up his sleeve cuz all other sand-nins did too.

didnt the "finger bullet" things go through the sand? isnt that the first thing besides chidori to completely penetrate the sand? since wen lee fought he was faster than the sand not more powerful.

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
didnt the "finger bullet" things go through the sand? isnt that the first thing besides chidori to completely penetrate the sand? since wen lee fought he was faster than the sand not more powerful.

Kind of, no, and no.

The "finger bullet"s were allowed through the sand, they were stopped then dropped to the ground(imo).

Lee's punches went through the sand when he was playing with gaara too, sometimes there was sand blocking him and he punched right through it.

So like I just said, lee was both faster and more powerful than the sand.

[Assertn]

the 2 previous times that we've seen that donut of smoke effect surrounding the target of the shadow dance was done by lee without the weights, and sasuke with the equivalent speed of lee without the weights....

therefore seeing the smoke donut around kimimaro should be an indication that lee does not have his weights on

[KitKat]

Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
didnt the "finger bullet" things go through the sand?

I'd have to agree with Jessper on this. From what I can tell, all the impact from the bones was absorbed by the sand, and then Gaara allowed them to drop to the ground. So, judging by that, if Kimi was able to break through Gaara's sand, it wouldn't do him much good since the sand would absorb all of the momentum of the attack, resulting in negligible damage to Gaara.

[SunDogg]

Sorry to break it to you guys.. but Rock has fallen behind other Genins. While others were able to train after the Chuunin exam, he was recovering. So.. pretty much anyone is stronger than him right now. We have seen everyone improve: Chouji, Neji, Kiba, Naruto, Shika, Sasuke, and all the sand nins. But NOT Rock. He is weaksauce now. Even after he recovers, he'll have to tough time catching up.

And as for the fight with Gaara and Kimi. I think it'll be a close fight now the Kimi is at Lv.2. I'm looking forward to what kind of finishing techniques each one of them have.

[greateachermin]

i dont think Lee is weak like you said...

chouji, i dont think he got stronger, but the fact is he's always been strong even though he doesnt show it... its just that the situation is not desparate enough for him to fight at full power...

kiba and shikamaru cannot finished off their opponent... how strong are they?

Lee lost to Gara, but Gara would have taken on all 4 sound ninjas and win... plus Lee is a genius at drunken kungfu... and one more thing... what ever doesnt kill u can only make u stronger... thats not true in real life but this is a anime.... like dragonball

[Jurojin]

Originally posted by: greateachermin
and one more thing... what ever doesnt kill u can only make u stronger... thats not true in real life but this is a anime.... like dragonball


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Ok, I have to say that Gaara's landscaping abilites are impressive....... I'l change my vote, and say Gaara would have the upper hand, as he can attack from every possible direction, AND defend at the same time.

[dizkidhuy]

hmmm i cant wait til episode 126... altho its coming out tomarrow ^-^, the fight between bone d00d and gaara will be pretty cool i bet =\ my friend keeps spoilting what happens because he readthe manga