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Berserk Ayato
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:10 PM
http://www.godstation99.com/manga/248.zip

Enjoy. Amazing chapter

jing
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:23 PM
THANK YOU NEWCOMER!

Hellraiser
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:25 PM
sure didnt save me. dont bless you.

i changed my mind. you just ruined it for me, and it's not dling.

Berserk Ayato
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:26 PM
lol, well i dont know how much of a newcomer i am, ive been here for a year.

Gaara is like a combination of Ice man and Silver surfer now.

Souryusen
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:28 PM
Thanks, Ayato.

Woah... that ninja spider totally humped that dude's face.

Hot shit.. Gaara threw down a lil bit.

Elessar
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:32 PM
now that's some sandbox playing.....

though i think his shovel and rake are a bit big....

Hellraiser
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:37 PM
wow that was gimp. if only i knew what just happened.

Nine Tailed Demon
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:49 PM
DLed for me! WOW! Gaara is extra badass, with all of that sand there you see why he is kazekage. Watching him I'm just imaging how good Naruto is with Kyuubi now...

Berserk Ayato
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:57 PM
Seems Naruto was talking about his training, and how his old clothes and head band got shredded.

The sneak attack didnt work becuse they realized that the bird dosent fly in the desert.

Hellraiser
Thu, 02-17-2005, 10:58 PM
it sure looked like it was flying.

guardiankepeer
Thu, 02-17-2005, 11:00 PM
That was a great chapter, now if i only knew what they were saying!!! I'm so happy that we got to see Iruka -sensei!I'm not a Gaara fan but that was really wicked, I was surprised when he levitated on the sand.Didn't know you could do that.....You know who im looking forward to see, aside from the obvious ones(sasuke, neji,hinata,chouji..)Whatever happened to Shino, we haven't seen him since the chuunin selection exam. He was kinda kewl.

Narutochuushin has the manga posted as well.

Mut
Thu, 02-17-2005, 11:10 PM
1. scouter
2. face huggers (alien)
3. gaara can fly (we saw this before but i thought he was sitting on sand which was resting on top of the bone spikes)
4. i still think gaara is fucked. if akatsuki goes down that easy, they are a joke.
5. awesome

Hellraiser
Thu, 02-17-2005, 11:10 PM
Welcome to the forums. Did Mut@t@'s topic in the Naruto forums prompt you to join? Well why don't you stop by the GotWoot Community (http://community.gotwoot.net/). It uses your forum username and password. You'll definately wanna join this group. The Best Group In The Universe (http://community.gotwoot.net/groups.php?id=28&page=view). Good day.

Mut
Thu, 02-17-2005, 11:12 PM
trans. udanraws.

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Ambushing the sand

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The sand castle... however, it is strong.
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However, this village's artistic design isn't too shabby.

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So destroying will make it worth it... yeah...

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then sneak attack it is....

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What the hell is this weird thing?!

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pfft, Stupid people can't comprehend art.... yeah

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ugh ugh * being suffocated*

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I'll physically teach you (lit I'll use the body to teach you)

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The "jinchuuriki"*power of human sacrifice* sure is useful

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In this dessert

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heh... Seems like my sneaking in was a failure... yeah

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guardiankepeer
Thu, 02-17-2005, 11:27 PM
That was really cool Mut@t@. You totally rock man. I thought I would have to wait for Inane....but that was really good. Hellraiser, I take it that you were talking to me since i was the last newbie to post. Since you seem all excited i think i 'll give it a try....after all it's supposed to be the Best group in the Universe...right!!!

LobsterMagnet
Thu, 02-17-2005, 11:55 PM
Wow the atsuki really do suck. I can't wait to see what the oragami girl does anything to get out of her current situation. Kishimoto is going to have to pull something out of his ass if he's going to make the Atsuki live up to the all of the hype and build up.

Lefty
Fri, 02-18-2005, 12:01 AM
I beat it's either a bushin of some sort or this will piss her off to no avail and she kicks it up a notch or the other guy is much stronger than her. Either way something cool will happen.

XTCBoY2K
Fri, 02-18-2005, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by: guardiankepeer
That was really cool Mut@t@. You totally rock man. I thought I would have to wait for Inane....but that was really good. Hellraiser, I take it that you were talking to me since i was the last newbie to post. Since you seem all excited i think i 'll give it a try....after all it's supposed to be the Best group in the Universe...right!!!

That's not his translation. That's from UDanStraight.

Mut
Fri, 02-18-2005, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by: XTCBoY2K


Originally posted by: guardiankepeer
That was really cool Mut@t@. You totally rock man. I thought I would have to wait for Inane....but that was really good. Hellraiser, I take it that you were talking to me since i was the last newbie to post. Since you seem all excited i think i 'll give it a try....after all it's supposed to be the Best group in the Universe...right!!!

That's not his translation. That's from UDanStraight.
yes, i gave credit.

guardiankepeer
Fri, 02-18-2005, 12:22 AM
my bad ...but it was still kewl

Assertn
Fri, 02-18-2005, 12:32 AM
hella sweet.....
although personally i dont think gaara should have been carrying a gourd around in a village made of sand

dragon608608
Fri, 02-18-2005, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
hella sweet.....
although personally i dont think gaara should have been carrying a gourd around in a village made of sand

so true, but i have one question, where the hell no. 18, that guy (not sure that person is a guy or a girl so take it or leave it) was mention in the previous chapter. He can't lose that bad. However, either way, he lose an arm. hehe, go Gaara.

nests
Fri, 02-18-2005, 01:11 AM
Man Gaara is really something.
I wonder who would have win in a fight "Gaara vs The Third"
I mean the Third was pretty awsome even though he was old and he took down the First and Second at the same time.

Mut
Fri, 02-18-2005, 01:15 AM
plz... the 3rd would've had gaara in his own desert coffin before gaara could go shakaku.

i'm waiting for Y to say that gaara can kill everyone. =(

<3

Assertn
Fri, 02-18-2005, 01:19 AM
in gaara's home turf.....the only people who stand a chance are people immune to the desert coffin.......such as kimimaro

kaigan
Fri, 02-18-2005, 03:17 AM
i wouldn't be surprise if gaara won but something will come up. the guy is kazekage. to become a kage is pretty damn strong.

guardiankepeer
Fri, 02-18-2005, 03:30 AM
Ya granted he was cool...but lets not exagerate things and make him out to be the best . He maybe the kazekage but he's no Uzamaki naruto. I can't wait until he comes into action.

PSJ
Fri, 02-18-2005, 05:06 AM
gaara is awesome so gaara is this strong then its safe to assume that our main characters are just as strong or stronger so we have at least 3 guys (naruto, sasuke and gaara) at a strength level enough to take down an akatsuki which is said to be the most dangerous ninjas in the world. sure gaara had the advantage of having sand eveywhere but he can create sand from dirt and shit in a forest(kimimaro fight) so i dont think his strength in another place is reduced to much. gaara for once seems calm, very calm. hmm cant wait for inane.

Psyke
Fri, 02-18-2005, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by: dragon608608


Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
hella sweet.....
although personally i dont think gaara should have been carrying a gourd around in a village made of sand

so true, but i have one question, where the hell no. 18, that guy (not sure that person is a guy or a girl so take it or leave it) was mention in the previous chapter. He can't lose that bad. However, either way, he lose an arm. hehe, go Gaara.

Yup. He might just have used a paper kawamiri.. : )

PSJ
Fri, 02-18-2005, 06:16 AM
hmm something like that i dont think gaara got him, now that i think about it isnt ninjas supposed to see underneath the underneath or something like that? i guess he is just testing out gaaras abilities.

Nem
Fri, 02-18-2005, 06:51 AM
She'll probably just regenerate her arm or something along those lines. Even if she does get hurt, the other akatsuki guy will do something and capture or force Gaara to come with them. Otherwise what would be the point of this whole fight except for watching Gaara fight?

LobsterMagnet
Fri, 02-18-2005, 07:17 AM
Yesh I can't believe one of the most dangerous ninjas in the world throws oragami birds as her main method of attack. I really hope she does something else or at the very least huntch back guy comes ot the rescue with something awesome.

PSJ
Fri, 02-18-2005, 07:25 AM
this fight could just be to show off gaara's power, didnt he look awesome tho when he just raised both his arms and all the sand behind him rose up that was priceless.

jing
Fri, 02-18-2005, 08:01 AM
I don't think Gaara would win, there is no point to his victory.

Uberbaka
Fri, 02-18-2005, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
hella sweet.....
although personally i dont think gaara should have been carrying a gourd around in a village made of sand

It's one of his defenses, remember? Holding sand close to him incase of a super-emergency...

I doubt that Gaara has won already, or even damaged her/him.

NL|MegaMika
Fri, 02-18-2005, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
I can't wait to see what the oragami girl does anything to get out of her current situation.

Let's hope she's not going to activate some stupid transformation like the Sound Four. I hate those silly Curse Seal L2 monsters.

Hakeem_21
Fri, 02-18-2005, 08:33 AM
Yeah it pretty clear that Gaara wont win even do he has improved alot since last time.

I like the calm Gaara much better than the crazy Gaara.

His black outfti look so good.

RasenDori
Fri, 02-18-2005, 08:47 AM
hmmm... birdeye has a scouter. should have just searched out gaara by his extremely large power level. heh heh. anyways im convinced now that birdeye is a guy. in a lot of those sceenes he seemed more masculine. i think origami paper bombs rock harder then most of the abilities we've seen so far. sure it seems weak, but im sure that you dont get in the akatsuki by giving people paper cuts. anyways, gaara may have the upper hand, but birdeye hasnt use "number 18" yet. also, sasori must be stronger, so if push comes to shove, he will bail birdeye out. however, i dont think either side will win the fight. it will probally end in a stale mate. it is much to early in the morning for killing kages and akatsuki members. the akatsuki will probally realize that they may be underestimating their targets, and waited a little too long to make thier move.

on another subject, gaara is fucking badass. i used the hate the guy, and starting trailing the gaara bandwagon after playing a bit of naruto gekitou ninja taisen 3, but now after seeing this chapter, i finally jumped on. gaara is now my number 3 (trailing after neji and birdeye... poor naruto, getting knocked down 2 places in my heart within two weeks) all of gaaras moves seem a little more shukakuish., not to mention the zipper on his selve is just plain stylish (gotta find a shirt like that). it seems that gaara has complete control over his youma. i can only imagine what naruto must be like now. in the past with the exception of naruto vs neji, we have only seen narutos truths strength imerge in his rage. i cant wait to see a controled full kyubi mode.... oh yes... and I WANT TO SEE NEJI NOW! what new moves has he learned to move him up to jounin so quickly... i must see.

Elessar
Fri, 02-18-2005, 08:55 AM
Just think about it in a different way:

Maybe her arm was smashed, but they got Gaara out of the city! Who knows, what comes next aka what their "catching" technique will really be like?

Jman
Fri, 02-18-2005, 09:23 AM
great chapter. bootleg ino was gettin whooped

LobsterMagnet
Fri, 02-18-2005, 09:41 AM
Maybe the oragmi girl will throw out several smaller origami animals and they'll all form together to create a giant oragami bot just like voltron! Probably not but it would be fun to see.

Assertn
Fri, 02-18-2005, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by: Uberbaka


Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
hella sweet.....
although personally i dont think gaara should have been carrying a gourd around in a village made of sand

It's one of his defenses, remember? Holding sand close to him incase of a super-emergency...

I doubt that Gaara has won already, or even damaged her/him.

you dont need to hold sand close to you in an environment covered in sand

nests
Fri, 02-18-2005, 11:13 AM
I think the arm is going t be a oragami arm and she can just reform it or something.
This guys are supposed to be the strongest out there so I dont think this thing is finish by a longshot

Assertn
Fri, 02-18-2005, 11:35 AM
i know that she wouldnt be killed off too soon, of course.....
but it would be nice if gaara's desert coffin actually did something useful outside of the chuunin exam

like maybe she'll only have 1 arm for the rest of the series

Haku no Fuyu
Fri, 02-18-2005, 11:47 AM
CRAP. JUST...whoa. Check out how the sand looks. It seems that Gaara finaly has control over Shukaku!

Prof. Chaos
Fri, 02-18-2005, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by: nests
I think the arm is going t be a oragami arm and she can just reform it or something.
This guys are supposed to be the strongest out there so I dont think this thing is finish by a longshot

That sounds the most reasonable out of it. I mean it seems all Akatsuki members have bloodline limits or some sacred weapon.

Knives122
Fri, 02-18-2005, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by: Prof. Chaos


Originally posted by: nests
I think the arm is going t be a oragami arm and she can just reform it or something.
This guys are supposed to be the strongest out there so I dont think this thing is finish by a longshot

That sounds the most reasonable out of it. I mean it seems all Akatsuki members have bloodline limits or some sacred weapon.

reasonable? yes, logical? no, I dont see how it can be an oragami arm, when you could see blood when Gaara did his "dessert coffin" (unless the bloodline limit, works that way as well).

Oh well there are too many questions inside of other questions at this time to say anything, so i'm not going to argue if anyone feels like disagreeing with me.

samsonlonghair
Fri, 02-18-2005, 02:01 PM
First off, it's always good to see Naruto eating Ramen with Iruka-sensei. I bet the Ichiraku's business went down signifigantly while Naruto was gone.

Moving on, Thank god Kishimoto has finally turned Gaara cool. I never liked the whiney, crazy crap Gaara was doing before. Maybe I'm just odd, but I can't stand it when someone acts like they're the only one with serious problems. The calm Gaara is a great improvement.

weakest anbu
Fri, 02-18-2005, 02:43 PM
ha! looks like gaara is going to get screw in the next few chapters.

whoever uses flashy move first loses in the end. well gaara just wasted an entire chapter doing huge amount of sand manipulation... so yea its pretty much over for gaara.

Kenshiro
Fri, 02-18-2005, 02:58 PM
That akatsuki chick better be using a kage bunshin or something.

No fucking way Gaara should be able to even touch any of them, let alone hurt them.

If Gaara wins against her and the other akatsuki person has to step in im going to be pissed. Either way, Gaara has to loose this fight or else it will be pointless.

jing
Fri, 02-18-2005, 03:09 PM
shes using origami bunshin

Lefty
Fri, 02-18-2005, 04:26 PM
Lets not forget about that other guy waiting out side the city gate that gara has to deal with as well.

nests
Fri, 02-18-2005, 04:36 PM
Yes, it looks like he may be sort of like a slug so maybe if he does the desert coffin he could just melt and reform or something.
At this point I pretty expect anything since they the all have to have unique techniques

Prof. Chaos
Fri, 02-18-2005, 05:41 PM
It's turned into who ever has the best bloodline limit or biggest demon inside them.

kyubisrage
Fri, 02-18-2005, 05:44 PM
For the love of god he is a kage so dont underestimate him so much. It isnt little gara any more hes bigger and more badass.

guardiankepeer
Fri, 02-18-2005, 05:50 PM
I also think that were not going to have a decisive winner in this fight . Though her arm was crushed with the desert coffin jutsu, like someone said I think she can regenerate using origami. She was probably just testing how strong he is. Probably they have the same fate in stored for him as they do for naruto.Since both have a monster insde them.

nests
Fri, 02-18-2005, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by: kyubisrage
For the love of god he is a kage so dont underestimate him so much. It isnt little gara any more hes bigger and more badass.

That is right and it takes a lot to become one and got does seem to have the upper hand here becuase of all the sand around

JusDaMan
Fri, 02-18-2005, 06:32 PM
O.o HEY! kishimoto is taking that idea off the other ninja anime! flame of recca! There was this guy who uses origami as a weapon in there too. aw well no matters

Im wondering where is the brother when u need him! the older brother suppose to help the younger one! even if the younger is 90000000000x more powerful than u... (actucally i just wanna see a Puppet vs paper fight)

I think Garra is still suffering from insonmia since he still got huge ass black bags around his eyes. but i think that's perminant because of his Lack of sleep when he was younger. OR he was born with black rings so no matters.

mage
Fri, 02-18-2005, 06:49 PM
i think its just that gaara would look incredibly stupid without them since he doesnt have any eyebrows.

kAi
Fri, 02-18-2005, 08:37 PM
gaara is certainly badass!!! much stronger
i'm not sure which way this is going to go, but you would expect gaare to lose or be a draw.
but as there are two akatsuki members, i think gaara will lose.

Stoopider
Fri, 02-18-2005, 08:51 PM
Damn cool episode. Looks like he isn't Kazekage without a reason, and he's Naruto's age.

He's a little special. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif IMO, Gaara's probably invincible in his homeland, he can use the entire enviroment to his advantage.

Phoenix23
Sat, 02-19-2005, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by: StoopiderDamn cool episode. Looks like he isn't Kazekage without a reason, and he's Naruto's age.He's Gaara, that's reason enough. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

TwisT
Sat, 02-19-2005, 06:01 AM
This is why Gaara is one of my favorits.. And i do think it was that easy for Gaara.. When they are at his turf he seems almost unbeatable.. But maybe Akatsuki have a special jutsu that is made to beat sand-based powers/jutsus..

Like in everything else Sand and Sand-power are usally weak against water and water based powers.. Maybe the same goes here..

Elessar
Sat, 02-19-2005, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by: kAi
gaara is certainly badass!!! much stronger
i'm not sure which way this is going to go, but you would expect gaare to lose or be a draw.
but as there are two akatsuki members, i think gaara will lose.

That's about it. Gaara will take one down, and be captured after that.
Of course, this happens while Naruto travels to the sand for his chuunin exams. Once he's there, he rescues him. *w00h00*

Winged Dancer
Sat, 02-19-2005, 09:15 AM
Great chapter. Thruth to be told, I wasn't so excited about Gaara's fight.. 'cause I'm a Naruto fangirl and wanted to see him, but it was enough the Ramen scene.

Gaara's fight was too pretty not to like, too. No stupid talking, just attacking - and Gaara's battle clothes (or the non-Kazekage clothing, whatever) are pretty neat. He really has learned to control the sand... but its been too easy for him so far. They can't kill an Akatsuki member in the fifth chapter!! They're suppossed to be the strongest/among the strongest people around, even if fighting against the Kazekage they should put up more of a fight.

But I guess the battle isn't over by far.

Mmmh, given that Shusaku is said to be the One-Tail and Naruto's fox is the Nine-Tails, you reckon there'll be nine people with demons within themselves, or at least nine demons the Akatsuki is aiming for? Perhaps they already have the Two-Tails or the Three-Tails and so on... it'll be a _long_ manga if it was like that.

idontnoh
Sat, 02-19-2005, 10:40 AM
i wanna see some crazy stuff like naruto and gaara fusing together with their youma....hahhahahaha

LobsterMagnet
Sat, 02-19-2005, 10:56 AM
Wow that would be really really dumb if naruto fused together with Garra. Oh god all of the newbs are going to restart the whole naruto vs. DBZ argument again.

While I don't think it would be smart to see them fuse together I would like to see them fight side by side. Now that would be cool. Can't you imagine it both naruto and Garra are pined down from all sides then they both whip out their youma's and start kicking ass back to back. Probably won't happen though.

originalkrn
Sat, 02-19-2005, 11:16 AM
inane is out - but only on IRC for now i think. go get it if you know how. /s irc.irchighway.net /j #mangareaders



well. I thought the chapter was awesome. Gaara, the once crying little boy, is now a tremendous force against even an Akatsuki. I dont know why everyone is underestimating Gaara. Just because he is young? or was once a genin? He is now - wat? - 14 years old? Didnt Itachi become ANBU captain at 13? I think Gaara now is extremely powerful (seeing how he is kage) and should be able to put up a fight against one akatsuki.

PSJ
Sat, 02-19-2005, 11:20 AM
gaara 14? more like 15-16.

Psyke
Sat, 02-19-2005, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by: originalkrn
inane is out - but only on IRC for now i think. go get it if you know how. /s irc.irchighway.net /j #mangareaders



well. I thought the chapter was awesome. Gaara, the once crying little boy, is now a tremendous force against even an Akatsuki. I dont know why everyone is underestimating Gaara. Just because he is young? or was once a genin? He is now - wat? - 14 years old? Didnt Itachi become ANBU captain at 13? I think Gaara now is extremely powerful (seeing how he is kage) and should be able to put up a fight against one akatsuki.


It would be humiliating if a kage cannot even at least fight an akatsuki member to a draw. I'm expecting either the guy with his arm injured to be a clone/kawamiri, or that the other akatsuki member will come bail him out to go back and heal himself.

JusDaMan
Sat, 02-19-2005, 01:27 PM
In 1 of the kishimoto's Fanbook things.. he said that Some characters in part 2 will have their outfit drawn similar to the Kennau reeves movie "The matrix". If no one notices it.. Garra is wearing a trench coat.

Death BOO Z
Sat, 02-19-2005, 02:57 PM
wow, i guess it's gaara's kickass month...
in the manga he's kicking the shit out of the akatsuki and in the anime he's snapping kimimaru's bones...
Gaara's fan-o-metar must be going wild!

and in the same time, the akatsuki's baddassness is going downhill...
so much build up, and in the end, they've got nothing so far, not even enough to make gaata use the armor of sand, even lee has done better...

other than that, i hope Naruto also improved at least as much, and maybe managed to learn how to fight with style..

oh, and the last panel in the 10th page is really necromancer-like, don't ya think?

GhostKaGe
Sat, 02-19-2005, 02:58 PM
the translations out on naruto fan

Deblas
Sat, 02-19-2005, 03:16 PM
it was a good chapter but i wanted to see more of naruto. Im looking forward to seeing him fight again.

Hellraiser
Sat, 02-19-2005, 03:52 PM
Here's the Inane chapter for those that don't have it yet.
Naruto Chapter 248 (http://www.narutofan.com/downloads/download.php/1/nmanga248.zip)
Edit: The Narutofan servers down for reboot right now so you'll have to wait awhile.

Deblas
Sat, 02-19-2005, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by: Hellraiser
Here's the Inane chapter for those that don't have it yet.

Edit: The Narutofan servers down for reboot right now so you'll have to wait awhile.

Its back now by the way. downloading it just now

Sidnne
Sat, 02-19-2005, 05:46 PM
Gaara has been my favorite character since his introduction to the series.

Even though he is now Kazekage and very strong, I don't believe that he alone could beat an Akatsuki member if they are truly as strong as we had been led to believe. However, going back to 247, it would appear that the person whom Gaara is fighting (her name escapes me atm) is only an apprentice to the real big bad guy that she was with. So it would be reasonable for Gaara to easily defeat an apprentice, but I would expect him to be in trouble when the other guy steps in. Perhaps then, enter the leaf and things really take off from there.

basey44
Sat, 02-19-2005, 07:55 PM
well not all of the akatsuki would be super strong like itachi, i mean look at kisame, hed be an easy beat for someone who is a proper kaze.

Psyke
Sat, 02-19-2005, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by: basey_69
well not all of the akatsuki would be super strong like itachi, i mean look at kisame, hed be an easy beat for someone who is a proper kaze.

I'm sure a kage can beat Kisame in a fair fight, but "easy beat" seem to be too extreme. We haven't even really seen Kisame fight yet, so it's not fair to say he's gonna by thrashed by Garra or any other kages. He's a S level wanted criminal after all.

guardiankepeer
Sat, 02-19-2005, 11:24 PM
Guys !!!!! It would not be the end of the world if the akatsuki girl got beaten by Gaara, after all he is the kazekage.That means something. Last i checked the third faired pretty well against Orochimaru, which was an ex akatsuki member. So for a Kage to beat her, would not be the end of the world. And yes, I know what your probably saying. Gaara is not exactly the Third, but he must have powered up greatly in order to have become the kazekage.

kyubisrage
Sun, 02-20-2005, 12:54 AM
Again...... Stop saying gara is weak. He is a KAGE!!!! You should expect him to be able to beat the members. IF it was itachi or somone i would say that is it easy. But gara is in his homeland so stop underestimating him.

Terracosmo
Sun, 02-20-2005, 02:16 AM
He is kage because his father was it before him, and sand is a country with few outstanding shinobis and among them Gaara just happens to be the best.

Psyke
Sun, 02-20-2005, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by: guardiankepeer
Guys !!!!! It would not be the end of the world if the akatsuki girl got beaten by Gaara, after all he is the kazekage.That means something. Last i checked the third faired pretty well against Orochimaru, which was an ex akatsuki member. So for a Kage to beat her, would not be the end of the world. And yes, I know what your probably saying. Gaara is not exactly the Third, but he must have powered up greatly in order to have become the kazekage.

Pretty well? The third in his prime would have beaten Orochimaru. It was his old age and lack of stamina that ultimately made him gave up.

Insomniac
Sun, 02-20-2005, 09:23 AM
just fyi, Orochimaru was the one to kill the last Kazekage (without any damage to himself) and the 3rd was known as the strongest ninja ever

the title of Kage is very little indication of how strong someone is, and not that they're the strongest in the village either (at least in terms of the Leaf as Oro was considered to be the strongest but Yodaime was picked)
that being said, yes Kages are strong but they are not unbeatable (back to Kazekage being killed easily by Orochimaru without raising any suspicion)

i wouldnt compare Gaara to the 3rd

Ryllharu
Sun, 02-20-2005, 09:24 AM
Akatsuki are really not the end all of the shinobi food chain, so stop pretending they are invincible.

1) As previously stated, Orochimaru was once one, and the Third would have obliterated him in his prime (and though his arms were sealed to his credit, Tsunade kicked his ass too).

2) Itachi and Sharkface we're nearly owned by Jiraya, and they both said this. (Though it is also true that Itachi said if his eyes had gone to the 'sun' position, it would have been the other way around.)

3) Gaara was strong before and is obivously stronger than he was now (being sane and all, well, sane-er)

4) Naruto and bunch are obviously going to fight them as well when they go after Kyuubi, and do you honestly think Naruto is going to lose to them and lose Kyuubi? (The show is still called Naruto last time I checked, oh wait, maybe it isn't, I haven't checked in the last two chapters. Nope, still is.)

5) Akatsuki are just really strong clanless ninjas. Probably Sannin class abilities. Maybe I missed the thread where it was declared that the Akatsuki can never be killed because of their overwhelming badass-edness, but they are part of the story line and they're gonna be defeated sometime.

So get your nose out of their ass and realize that some of them are probably going to lose. Do I think all of them will be defeated in a few chapters? No. Some of them probably won't even be hurt. But some will, and some will be killed. Will Gaara lose his fight? Unless someone else shows up, I honestly don't think so.

Gaara almost fought evenly with Kimimaro, and though he said he would have lost, there's two things to remember from that fight. Gaara was 'strongest shield' and Kimimaro was 'strongest spear (or something like that)' They were completly unmatched (and Kishimoto made a point of it). I still think Kimimaro was the strongest character in the series, and Gaara's only grown since then.

Being a Kage has nothing to do with it, he's on home turf and much stronger than before.

Konohamaru
Sun, 02-20-2005, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by: Ryllharu

Gaara almost fought evenly with Kimimaro, and though he said he would have lost, there's two things to remember from that fight. Gaara was 'strongest shield' and Kimimaro was 'strongest spear (or something like that)' They were completly unmatched (and Kishimoto made a point of it). I still think Kimimaro was the strongest character in the series, and Gaara's only grown since then.


Kimimaru lost cos he was running out of time. He had a critical illness and was fueled on spirit and will power alone to even stand up. Plus near the end of the battle in the manga, he spit out blood and says "I'm running out of time" . If Kimi was fit and well, he woulda ended Gaara eventually. I do believe Kimi was a strong character but since he did no jutsu's during the battle, I would say he was the strongest close combat fighter in Naruto.

As for Gaara being Kazekage, that sure did take me by suprise in the last chapter. Plus he looks bad ass now. He's always has been my fave jutsu character even tho my forum name is Konohamaru, lol.

Fave Jutsu Character = Gaara
Fave Fighter = Neji
Overall = Shikamaru

guardiankepeer
Sun, 02-20-2005, 01:52 PM
Thnx for summing it up Ryllharu I was gettign tired of all those akatsuki-lovers.The only thing that i disagreed with you is the fact that Kimimaro was the strongest. I certainly think that Naruto could have taken him ,had he tapped into the fox demons powers even more, like the sasuke match.On the other hand, to give some credit to kimimaro, he was dieing after all. But I still think Uzumaki Naruto is the most badass character in the manga.

Assertn
Sun, 02-20-2005, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by: Konohamaru
Fave Jutsu Character = Gaara
Fave Fighter = Neji
Overall = Shikamaru

couldnt have said it better myself

basey44
Sun, 02-20-2005, 06:20 PM
except for neji
i hope he stopped training after a month and became a McDonalds junkie, stupid neji

PSJ
Sun, 02-20-2005, 06:40 PM
finally someone that dislikes neji, the whole hyuuga clan go hang themselves for all i care. gaara wounded the akatsuki guy big deal now stop crying.

EDIT: wow that sounded weird, i fixed it....

seds
Mon, 02-21-2005, 12:48 AM
I agree that Gaara appears to be much more in control of Shukaku, but lest we forget, if it ever came down to it, his ultimate technique is using Shukaku against his enemy. If it came to that, do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukaku then?

Deblas
Mon, 02-21-2005, 03:33 PM
He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?

Mut
Mon, 02-21-2005, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by: Deblas
He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?
He's never been able to control it. Gaara falls asleep when Shukaku is out.

Deblas
Mon, 02-21-2005, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by: Mut@t@


Originally posted by: Deblas
He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?
He's never been able to control it. Gaara falls asleep when Shukaku is out.

no. If garaa falls asleep then he will lose control of shukaku. but they said he never sleeps, that is why his eyes are like that. and remember he forced himself to sleep using a jutsu when he was fighting naruto.

Mut
Mon, 02-21-2005, 08:07 PM
You're just bad at the English language. However, it's understandable seeing as you are a foreigner.

Look here:


Originally posted by: Deblas


Originally posted by: seds
I agree that Gaara appears to be much more in control of Shukaku, but lest we forget, if it ever came down to it, his ultimate technique is using Shukaku against his enemy. If it came to that, do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukaku then?
He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?
seds question of "do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukakau then?" implies that he is questioning Gaara's ability to control Shukaku once Shukaku is fully out. We know this is true because seds refers using Shukaku as the ultimate technique and Shukaku only comes out completely when Gaara is deep asleep.

Now, you are responding to seds question in regards to the original question with the intended meaning as stated above. But unfortunately, your inability to comprehend such easy wording has made you think otherwise. In order for your response to be in any relevance of what seds said, he'd have to change his post and ask this question: "Would Gaara be able to keep Shukaku from coming out completely?"

Only then will your answer might be correct. Deblas, you are one step behind.

EDIT: I could be completely wrong about what seds really intended to say but probably not. Only way I'll be wrong is if seds tells me that I am incorrect, which would suck.

Deblas
Mon, 02-21-2005, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by: Mut@t@
You're just bad at the English language. However, it's understandable seeing as you are a foreigner.

Look here:


Originally posted by: Deblas


Originally posted by: seds
I agree that Gaara appears to be much more in control of Shukaku, but lest we forget, if it ever came down to it, his ultimate technique is using Shukaku against his enemy. If it came to that, do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukaku then?
He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?
seds question of "do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukakau then?" implies that he is questioning Gaara's ability to control Shukaku once Shukaku is fully out. We know this is true because seds refers using Shukaku as the ultimate technique and Shukaku only comes out completely when Gaara is deep asleep.

Now, you are responding to seds question in regards to the original question with the intended meaning as stated above. But unfortunately, your inability to comprehend such easy wording has made you think otherwise. In order for your response to be in any relevance of what seds said, he'd have to change his post and ask this question: "Would Gaara be able to keep Shukaku from coming out completely?"

Only then will your answer might be correct. Deblas, you are one step behind.

EDIT: I could be completely wrong about what seds really intended to say but probably not. Only way I'll be wrong is if seds tells me that I am incorrect, which would suck.


your anwer makes no sense. He is saying if he will be able to control the shukaku the obviously he can as long as he is awake. If hes not then he can't control it. period. what don't you understand? And now you have doubts of what you just said? You better start thinking before flaming someone.

Captain Grammar
Mon, 02-21-2005, 09:04 PM
Shukaku is a demon living inside of Gaara. He's not an attack. If Gaara is able to surpress Shukaku, he is in control. If Gaara wants Shukaku to be in control, Gaara falls asleep. Ultimately, Gaara is in control of the demon living inside of him. He uses its power and surpresses it from overcoming him.

Mut
Mon, 02-21-2005, 09:06 PM
Paging seds: hurry and clear this shit up please.

Oh, BTW, I'm not doubting what I said. I'm doubting people's ability to write what they really want to say and their ability to comprehend what they read.

hiten mitsurugi
Mon, 02-21-2005, 09:59 PM
Captain Grammar is soooooo right.!!!! What was sed thinking when he phrased the question?

Prof. Chaos
Mon, 02-21-2005, 11:35 PM
Remember Gaara can create any part of Shukaku, such as just maybe his arms, and stay perfectly in control.

kAi
Tue, 02-22-2005, 02:37 AM
Remember Gaara can create any part of Shukaku, such as just maybe his arms, and stay perfectly in control.

if by control you mean psychotic, then yes.

Assertn
Tue, 02-22-2005, 03:03 AM
if gaara can control sand, then it should be easy to make giant arms that resemble shukaku's if he has enough sand to do so. It's entirely different than actually BECOMING shukaku

Stoopider
Tue, 02-22-2005, 03:13 AM
Looks like the Akatsuki guy is so screwed. But there's another akatsuki around which should save his ass. HOpe Gaara doesn't get killed. Would be a shame to see him go so fast.

Insomniac
Tue, 02-22-2005, 03:28 AM
so fast? hes been around for ages

Captain Grammar
Tue, 02-22-2005, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by: Insomniac
so fast? hes been around for ages

Ages? Uzumaki Naruto hasn't been around for ages.

And anyway, I think he meant since he made his appearance as Kazekage.

PSJ
Tue, 02-22-2005, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by: Captain Grammar


Originally posted by: Insomniac
so fast? hes been around for ages

Ages? Uzumaki Naruto hasn't been around for ages.

And anyway, I think he meant since he made his appearance as Kazekage.

naruto has been around for ages.. since like 2000 if thats what you mean.

jing
Tue, 02-22-2005, 08:49 AM
Um the guy meant Gaara.................... not uzumaki naruto.

Winged Dancer
Tue, 02-22-2005, 11:02 AM
I don't think the Akatsuki would want to kill Gaara. They seem to be collecting demons or something, and remember what Kisame said to Itachi when they were about to catch Naruto? Well, I don't! Not exactly, at least. But it was something like "As long as he's alive, it doesn't matter if I cut a leg or two". In other words, they seem to need the demon's "vessels" (i.e. Naruto, Gaara) alive for whatever they want to do to work.


BTW, am I the only one who feels that Naruto's real plot is just starting? It's as if the entire series up to now had been a set-up, a way to get to know the characters.
"Here's Naruto! You have known him for five years now!
Here's Sakura! Now that her character's been established, she'll become useful!
Here's Sasuke! Now you kinda know why he's such a jerk.
Here's Gaara! He was a bad guy but he's seen the light."

And so on. And now the real thing is beggining... kinda, since what we know about Akatsuki is "bunch of strong evil guys dressed in cool cloaks" at most.

kAi
Tue, 02-22-2005, 11:46 AM
haha, i see what you mean, i think naruto is basically only starting, it will be a long running series for sure, as there are many points to the story they can put in.

You have the 9 members of the Akatsuki, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Sasuke, other demons, maybe 9 all up?
getting the demons, fighting with other villages, normal konoha ninja life, hokage, relationships, there is heaps to build up on.

Phoenix23
Tue, 02-22-2005, 02:22 PM
I'm still hoping for a new ninja war...

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Tue, 02-22-2005, 06:24 PM
This chapter won't compare to when Naruto and Gaara are fighting alongside kicking the shit out of Akatsuki, IMO.

Hellraiser
Tue, 02-22-2005, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by: Stoopider
Looks like the Akatsuki guy is so screwed. But there's another akatsuki around which should save his ass. HOpe Gaara doesn't get killed. Would be a shame to see him go so fast.

Maybe he means so fast into the battle.

Stoopider
Tue, 02-22-2005, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by: Hellraiser


Originally posted by: Stoopider
Looks like the Akatsuki guy is so screwed. But there's another akatsuki around which should save his ass. HOpe Gaara doesn't get killed. Would be a shame to see him go so fast.

Maybe he means so fast into the battle.

Go.. as in gone/killed so fast. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 02-23-2005, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
I don't think the Akatsuki would want to kill Gaara. They seem to be collecting demons or something, and remember what Kisame said to Itachi when they were about to catch Naruto? Well, I don't! Not exactly, at least. But it was something like "As long as he's alive, it doesn't matter if I cut a leg or two". In other words, they seem to need the demon's "vessels" (i.e. Naruto, Gaara) alive for whatever they want to do to work.


BTW, am I the only one who feels that Naruto's real plot is just starting? It's as if the entire series up to now had been a set-up, a way to get to know the characters.
"Here's Naruto! You have known him for five years now!
Here's Sakura! Now that her character's been established, she'll become useful!
Here's Sasuke! Now you kinda know why he's such a jerk.
Here's Gaara! He was a bad guy but he's seen the light."

And so on. And now the real thing is beggining... kinda, since what we know about Akatsuki is "bunch of strong evil guys dressed in cool cloaks" at most.

Yeah. I've gotta agree with this. Some people have argued with me about Naruto being kinda dumb because all the main characters are weak, as opposed to in certain anime you come in, and the characters are already super strong. I shot the guy, but he got me to thinking. Following the series up to this point seems kind of like what some other anime might have in a prequel. So its like, you just get to see the entire story. Pretty cool if you ask me.

Terracosmo
Wed, 02-23-2005, 12:46 AM
We need more Neji

Captain Grammar
Wed, 02-23-2005, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
We need more Neji

This is 100% fact.

RasenDori
Wed, 02-23-2005, 01:51 AM
more like 120%

basey44
Wed, 02-23-2005, 03:56 AM
uve got it all wrong, if anything we need less neji, we need an antineji

Yondaime
Wed, 02-23-2005, 05:55 AM
we need to see more of Hinata....since she has been promoted too....and it would be pretty interesting to see how she got there and stuff....but ofcourse i want to see this only after this whole gaara Vs. Akatsuki fight....and i don't think that the akatsuki member is injured ...i am sure its just a replication.

hmm i have a question...did anyone translate the kanji on the Akatsuki member ring....because if you have noticed Kishimoto makes it a point to show the ring upclose.....maybe whats written on the ring could reveal the personality or the character of that person.

Hakeem_21
Wed, 02-23-2005, 06:38 AM
I woulndt mind seeing her but it isnt likely that we will see her anytime soon.

kAi
Wed, 02-23-2005, 08:46 AM
hmm i have a question...did anyone translate the kanji on the Akatsuki member ring....because if you have noticed Kishimoto makes it a point to show the ring upclose.....maybe whats written on the ring could reveal the personality or the character of that person.

inane put it on there translation
AO (Blue)

jing
Wed, 02-23-2005, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by: kAi


hmm i have a question...did anyone translate the kanji on the Akatsuki member ring....because if you have noticed Kishimoto makes it a point to show the ring upclose.....maybe whats written on the ring could reveal the personality or the character of that person.

inane put it on there translation
AO (Blue)

to add to that... i don't think the ring reveals the personality of the character. I mean itachi means red? hisame means south?

i just think that if you gather all the rings up, it becomes a forumla for some secret scroll to summon some really bad ass demon.

RasenDori
Wed, 02-23-2005, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by: jing


Originally posted by: kAi


hmm i have a question...did anyone translate the kanji on the Akatsuki member ring....because if you have noticed Kishimoto makes it a point to show the ring upclose.....maybe whats written on the ring could reveal the personality or the character of that person.

inane put it on there translation
AO (Blue)

to add to that... i don't think the ring reveals the personality of the character. I mean itachi means red? hisame means south?

i just think that if you gather all the rings up, it becomes a forumla for some secret scroll to summon some really bad ass demon.

WHEN YOUR POWERS COMBINE... bad joke

anyways, what does the kanji on orochimarus old akatsuki ring mean?

Psyke
Wed, 02-23-2005, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by: RasenDori
[quote]
WHEN YOUR POWERS COMBINE... bad joke

anyways, what does the kanji on orochimarus old akatsuki ring mean?


Ok, I admit I actually laughed (a little) and let my imagination run wild for a bit because of the joke.

kAi
Wed, 02-23-2005, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by: RasenDori


Originally posted by: jing


Originally posted by: kAi


hmm i have a question...did anyone translate the kanji on the Akatsuki member ring....because if you have noticed Kishimoto makes it a point to show the ring upclose.....maybe whats written on the ring could reveal the personality or the character of that person.

inane put it on there translation
AO (Blue)

to add to that... i don't think the ring reveals the personality of the character. I mean itachi means red? hisame means south?

i just think that if you gather all the rings up, it becomes a forumla for some secret scroll to summon some really bad ass demon.

WHEN YOUR POWERS COMBINE... bad joke

anyways, what does the kanji on orochimarus old akatsuki ring mean?


sky i think it was

Ryllharu
Wed, 02-23-2005, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by: RasenDori

WHEN YOUR POWERS COMBINE... bad joke


I hummed the entire theme song after I read that. jing's post right above made me think of it first, and the joke was right after!