Upcoming Events.... SEED Destiny Thoughts

[Guardian_2000]

Kira couldn't have beaten Impulse if he was piloting Strike or another mobile suit. Even if Shinn wasn't piloting Impulse. Athrun or Rey could likely have beaten Kira if they were in Impulse for that battle. The reason being Kira had no intent to kill and only planned to disable the mobile suit. Shinn knew this and anticipated each of these disabling attacks. Had Shinn been in any other suit it would of been over a third of the way in when the head and arm were taken off. Kira might of been able to disable the core splendor but thats risky also he didn't know about it till it was too late. It was a brilliant tactic. Many people here know it was abused and it really doesnt show they two pilots true abilities or strength. But we'll get to see that in the coming eps hopefully once Kira arrives to save Cagalli with his new sword.

Destiny was built with Shinn's abilities and skills in mind. His awesome reflexes and quick thinking. The speed of Destiny is unmatched by anything we've seen so far. But what if the new Strike Freedom is built with Kira's abilities in mind. A suit that will not limit his capabilities. His spatial awareness has constantly been improving since the later half of SEED. Now he has a suit with an even greater defensive ability. More firepower, wider range of weaponry. And the suit has a newer power source to boot. I have a feeling this new power source is due to the fact that ZAFT has the stampeder which makes all things nuclear explode.

[Motteh]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
have a feeling this new power source is due to the fact that ZAFT has the stampeder which makes all things nuclear explode.is that fact or speculation? because when they fired the stampeder,yes at the beginning of Destiny, the mobile suits in flight had already fired their nuclear missiles but still exploded
doing all that from memories and i don't read too much spoilers/background info when i'm watching the series, so i might be wrong

[Dannynonsense]

[quote]
Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Kira couldn't have beaten Impulse if he was piloting Strike or another mobile suit. Even if Shinn wasn't piloting Impulse. Athrun or Rey could likely have beaten Kira if they were in Impulse for that battle. The reason being Kira had no intent to kill and only planned to disable the mobile suit.




true that kira would have lost because he doesnt wanna kill but had the battle be with strike and without kira's no killing policy shinn wouldnt be around anymore. though freedom is an impressive mobile suit strike gundam when first piloted by kira after gaining seed was unstopable. if you compare shinn's record with impluse to kira's with strike you'll notice this kira schools him no ifs, ands, or buts. after watching numerous battles that took place in GS i remember why kira is one of the best pilots ever produced. looking at shinn developement with impluse leads me to believe he has a very long way to go even with destiny.

for those people who wanna argue with what i just said, try commenting after watching these episodes of GS and you'll see my point : 18, 21, 29 in these 3 episodes kira did more with strike than shinn ever did with impluse imo

[AtHRunOwNZaLL]

Originally posted by: Dannynonsense
though freedom is an impressive mobile suit strike gundam when first piloted by kira after gaining seed was unstopable.

Athrun was able to stop him =P

[Guardian_2000]

He's got you there. Athrun pulled out a suicide attack that caught Kira off guard. This happened aways back. Now it seems that Kira's abilities have constantly been improving while with Athrun we're not even sure if he can harness the power of his SEED anymore. Hopefully he'll catch up somewhat to Kira. But unless Athrun somehow gains a greater spatial awareness I think Kira will be slightly better. Now that Athrun has seen the light thou we won't see those two fight eachother.

I can't wait to see them working together thou. They work together better than Athrun did with Yzak and Dearka. That Orb battle was awesome and then in space was great. One of my favorite scenes in SEED was when Freedom stood atop of Justice and they did that group attack. I should see if I can manage a screencap that was awesome.

[Dannynonsense]

Originally posted by: AtHRunOwNZaLL


Originally posted by: Dannynonsense
though freedom is an impressive mobile suit strike gundam when first piloted by kira after gaining seed was unstopable.

Athrun was able to stop him =P

that is true but what i said was in terms of comparing impluse to strike, and naturally the only person who could stop him would be asuran thats another good ms pilot but those bastards dont give em time to show case his abillites.

[MrTicTac]

athrun needs to get into SEED mode *___* more often in destiny

[Motteh]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
One of my favorite scenes in SEED was when Freedom stood atop of Justice and they did that group attack.do you mean when they were escaping Orb? because i don't think Freedom was exactly "standing on" Justice there
but then again, it's been quite awhile since i saw it

[Psyke]

Some new pics.

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9835/ijustice2xo0fa.jpg

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3838/sfreedom9um1xt.jpg

[Madell]

Welcome to page 36 and 37 i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Sano]

Wow, the way the SF was drawn, it looks very Hajime Katoki'ish. I like the "Bling Bling" joints too.

[Dannynonsense]

you know since we've reached episode 37 of the wonderfull anime GSD i thought i would take this time to reflect on a character who wasn't given a chance to shine who know's maybe they might reapear in the final battle with some doomsday device any way i just wanted to show this pic in remembrance never forget (http://img35.exs.cx/img35/3995/lolgundamlol0nr.jpg) lol no seriously dont forget

if the link doesnt work try this http://img35.exs.cx/img35/3995/lolgundamlol0nr.jpg and its a pic of heine

[Motteh]

"page cannot be displayed, cannot find server" <- you're ehm....link to the pic ain't working
so basically that post doesn't say what/who you're talking about
although it could be your talking about Yzak/Deakka (since you're talking about "character" (singular), and "they" (plural)
or it could be about totally different character(s) altogether

[Barumonk]

A episode spoiler off of animesuki that I thought was worth reading:



Phase 42:

Shinn strikes out at Cagalli, who joins the battle on the front line as the Head of Orb. At this moment, Kira, aboard Strike Freedom, returns with Lacus from space, rescuing Cagalli. Cagalli returns to the Orb government and tries to find out Djibril's where abouts from Yuna. Also, Lacus pilots the Infinite-Justice and rendezvoused with ArchAngel, meeting again with Athrun.

I know its implying that Lacus gives it to Athrun, but still...

[Roko]

Now that's interesting...(Damn! Lacus can pilot?!). But I'm skeptical of this spoiler; what's the source?

[benjaminz]

lacus piloting infinite justice.... that's gonna be my favorite ep i/expressions/heart.gif

[naruto-kira]

i hella agree with Dannynonsense

even tho shinn knows kira will not aim for the cockpit and only disarms him, that does mean kira couldn't beat shinn with strike with the same handicap, remember in the shinn and kira battle, shinn had varities of weapons to work with while kira only had a sword and gun. if u watch Strike fighting in GS u also will know wut im talking about, Strike can use knifes, the big sword, light saber and even sheild and alot more... i seen in GS kira actually uses the mobile, to take the hit, then pull off the knifes, he could even throw his shield(as u seen in the sand battle),also recharge... use alot of battle tatics(that gave me goosebumps). the ones shinn used against kira, kira can also use it against shinn with better skills. face it.. Strike is a hella better hand to hand combat mobile than freedom. and how could u say athrun beat kira...that battle kira won to me, he slice off most of athrun mobile while strike only had a few parts off and plus, not like kira died, both mobile got destroyed too. the only part is that athrun was alittle ahead because he went suicide. and pop up his seat so he was less injured. and the part Gil said he took down the best mobile at the time (Strike)....my theory is that Gil didn't know Strike and Freedom are the same drivers since both strike and athrun's mobile got blown up.......

[AtHRunOwNZaLL]

the only reason athrun went suicidal is because he ran out of phase shift, if he still had phase shift athrun would've won because he was about to use his cannon, so athrun actually won that battle, and the reason kira survived is because he got rescued and because he is the ultimate coordinator, if it was any other coordinator they would've died automatically, plus during that battle athrun put a big hole in the cockpit so i say athrun did alot of damage to strike so athrun beated the ultimate coordinator which makes him the best coordinator and second would be yzak because he killed 2 druggies and 3rd would be shinn, this is in my opinion, kira didn't make my top 3

[naruto-kira]

lol, that wont make any sense. if kira is the ultimate coordinator, how would there be better than the best. u must be living in your own world. athrun running out of phase shift has nothing to do with the battle, kira and athrun mobile's has the same energy. its not kira fault for him to use all this energy. athrun... went suicide on kira, or else he wouldn't have beaten Kira. Kira doesn't make top 3.....u kidding???to me.. kira can take down yzak, athrun, shinn, 3 on1 if serious. and remember this no mobile up till now can keep up with Kira's skills. not freedom not strike. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BETTER THAN THE BEST, BEST MEANs #1. and have u watch GS when Kira adapts to all surfaces(its so freaking cool), that is SuperB MAD SKILLS right there. u dont c athrun or anyone else does it without using some add on's.

[AtHRunOwNZaLL]

wat i meant by kira as the ultimate coordinator is he was created to be the ultimate coordinator, and kira adapted to the surfaces because he changed his OS system, that's the only reason, and if it was kira vs shinn athrun and yzak kira would get his butt wooped because any of his mobile suits won't be able to keep up w/ his skills so he would be limited, so think before u write u know-it-all

[naruto-kira]

lets not get to far off topic... my point is that kira would, is the best coordinator. and if'd he had a suit good enuff for him, he would definitly own.....

[john_doe_107]

lacus piloting a mobile suit..now that's hot
reminds me of jill valentine (or whatever the name) from resident evil
she has seed as well right?
will SF and IJ have meteor as well?

[cybercoin]

Okay okay, we get the whole KIRA OWNS part. But if Kira was a cool as you said. Then he could have never been taken down by Shinn. Kira could have dodged everything the way you said it. But he didn't/couldn't dodge those blasts.

[DragonBladeX]

Originally posted by: john_doe_107
lacus piloting a mobile suit..now that's hot
reminds me of jill valentine (or whatever the name) from resident evil
she has seed as well right?
will SF and IJ have meteor as well?

Its still pretty unconfirmed, though it would be cool if SF and IJ have add-on to the MS. Even though its an old concept, i can't remember which series but while playing Super Robots Wars I saw the unit. It had a huge cannon and huge boosters. One of the most funny move was to impale the enemy with the cannon and then fire it off...

[Motteh]

this post is mostly towards naruto-kira
first of all, take off those glasses that make you blind to everything but Kira <_<
second, as i stated before, being the ultimate coordinator doesn't automatically make you the ultimate pilot, not even when he has a suit that doesn't limit him
but really i don't to want this to turn into the same discussion that has been taking place after the Impulse VS Freedom fight where Kira bit the dust, kicked the can, whatever you want to call it

[Chris_Xion]

I'd hope to see them salvage n repair Freedom(it still has head n torso rite) n see Neo become like Mu.He could pilot the repaired Freedom.
Then ZAFT would be shot to pieces coz good guys now will hav SF,IJ,Akatsuki,Strike Rouge,Gaia,Freedom(hopefully),DOM troopers,METEORS(hopefully),Eternal,Archangel,Kusa nagi(Hopefully) and Minerva+Destiny(maybe they n Shinn will realise Rey n Gil's evil n turncoat)I'm a new guy here,so plz correct me if i get anythin wrong.Nice meetin all.

[cybercoin]

Yeah, it's 1 METEOR not 2. Kira's METEOR got destroyed and Athrun dumped it in space. So they might still have that one. And I don't think that Freedom is getting repaired. They are going to steal the Strike Freedom. As far as I know. And they are not going to shoot ZAFT to pieces or anything. The AA just doesn't want a war.

[Dannynonsense]

nope there not gonna steal strike freedom its being built by the clyne faction

[MeroTZ]

I doubt Freedom will be repaired, but I bet its reactor will be used to soup up an old suit (Strike Rouge), or possibly to complete a new one (Akatsuki, Cagali's new one?). I kinda hope Neo gets a DOM, but my bet is that he will fly Andy's Murasame in the defense of Orb.

I'm guessing Strike Freedom and I-Justice are ZAFT designs, which have been held back to this point so that Dulindal could take out Kira and Athrun, and then he could bring in Freedom and Justice as yet more Pro-ZAFT symbols. Since he thinks Kira and Athrun are dead, its gonna be a shock when they show up in improved models of their old suits, whevever they come from.

Also, any pics of Cagali's new suit yet?

[naruto-kira]

ultimate coordinator mean best pilot(If u watch GS u know wut i mean)...at least the highest potential in the longer run.. and yes.. he will be the ultimate pilot too....for crying out loud...shinn had alot more weapons and got his parts changed....during the battle, after some parts got broken. and freedom is not a good hand to hand combat, not like it moves at super speed...(mobile got limits to) if it could kira would move faster to aviod the blow oviously. also theres no strategy for Kira work with Freedom, sword,shield and a gun...... (which shinn knew where kira is gonna aim)......
Kira is a better coordinator, and with better weapons, he could do more multi task. like throw his knifes, shield, sword. maybe if u rewatch gundam seed u know wut tatics im talking about, instead of jus shooting was we saw.


and i dont know why kira got beaten...i aint the artist or the animator....but whatever it is....its making shinn look really bad.

[AtHRunOwNZaLL]

omg maybe if u rewatch gundam seed u will know wat the term "ultimate coordinator" actually is

[Dannynonsense]

okay umm kira's father never wanted to make the ultimate pilot but ultimate coodinator though kira is one of the strongest pilots produced second to asuran the ultmate coodinator thing only helps him by allowing him to develope more skill at a faster rate than an average coodinator so somone who has seed and also been training for ten years can probbaly and mostly like will beat kira. and please dont say anything because i doubt ill respond to a rebuttle

[Nyro]

My take on the whole Ultimate Coordinator business is this: Kira has the ability to activate SEED at any time he so desires. He no longer requires the emotional limiter. Arthun, Cagalli, Lacus, Shinn all need their emotions to be in high gear for it to work. Kira can just do it on a whim.

[Splash!]

maybe so, but still Shinn is a different case.
He seems like capable of getting pissed off no matter what the time is. So i guess Kira looses the advantage of being the only person who can go into seed mode whenever he wants

Edit: MrTicTac sames to share my opinion in episode 37 discussion pg 7

[naruto-kira]

in dont know about the 10 year thing....but talent means u learn faster than people, so wut takes 10 years ,maybe takes kira 1 year or even faster to master. threw time kira, the pilot gap would be even greater amoung the other pilots.

[darkshadow]

talent is nothing without experience

[Dannynonsense]

Originally posted by: Nyro
My take on the whole Ultimate Coordinator business is this: Kira has the ability to activate SEED at any time he so desires. He no longer requires the emotional limiter. Arthun, Cagalli, Lacus, Shinn all need their emotions to be in high gear for it to work. Kira can just do it on a whim.

actually thats wrong since seed is completely different thing and has nothing to do with him being the ultimate coodinator and also asuran no longer needs his anger to activate seed anymore at least thats how i interpert the events of gs regarding seed and the ultimate coodinator

[naruto-kira]

talent means u learn faster than people.......of course u gotta LEARN first.....but its jus easier for him....

[Splash!]

hmmm, i dunno about Athrun, if he could activate the SEED factor within himself whenever he wished he would have at least been able to take Sting down, i mean comon!!!!

[naruto-kira]

athrun can activate seed mode if he focus more, i seen it already in Gundam Seed

[MeroTZ]

Most scientists agree that both genetics and environment have a substantial impact on the physical and mental developement of a person. You guys are looking at Kira'a genetic background, which would be good for him being a pilot, but thats not the only factor.

The fact is, he wasn't raised to be a pilot, so he is not optimally equiped, mentally or physically, for piloting. Someone with a military background (or a more physical one, maybe) might have a chance at being a better pilot than Kira.

Also, remember, humans are arrogant. Just because they claim Kira is perfect, doesn't necessarily mean he is.

[fox_t]

Originally posted by: MeroTZ
Most scientists agree that both genetics and environment have a substantial impact on the physical and mental developement of a person. You guys are looking at Kira'a genetic background, which would be good for him being a pilot, but thats not the only factor.

The fact is, he wasn't raised to be a pilot, so he is not optimally equiped, mentally or physically, for piloting. Someone with a military background (or a more physical one, maybe) might have a chance at being a better pilot than Kira.

Also, remember, humans are arrogant. Just because they claim Kira is perfect, doesn't necessarily mean he is.

Actually many scientist actually believe that mental development of a person actually is more a factor of genetics than environment*. The grades of Adpoted children were compared against the grades of their adpotive parents, and no correlation was found (that`s basically the gist of it...sorry i don`t want to go into crazy detail). Undoubtedly the fact that Dullindal himself called Kira the best pilot. Plus, and I hate to bring this up again, Kira is the ultimate coordinator. Meaning out of every coordinator ever created, no matter what happens, in the long run Kira will always be the best. Well him and Canard, but Canard didn`t fair to well, in the long run.

BTW, Kira is perfect, that`s one of the main premises of the show. That`s why Rau was bugging him so much. He wanted Kira to get crazy and kill everyone. That`s why Dullindal ordered him shot down, because he knows that Kira is the ultimate weapon. He knows that if Kira gets crazy, no one can stop him.




*Read Freakonomics by Steven Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, they provide a good example of this

[Splash!]

nobody said Kira was perfect. They said he was a perfected coordinator, which only means that they were able to take genetic engineering to a whole new level with him since he was synthetically bred. Thats what makes him the ultimate but then again thats only a question about how much knowledge people possess about this whole situation. Maybe there was much more going in this genetic engineering business, after all, what is up with the concept of being EXTENDED? How does Dullindal relate to the whole thing anyhow. I think there is more to things than Kira being the best of the best. Maybe Rey , Rau and Neo's newtype flashes have something to do with the whole thing as well

[naruto-kira]

i know this is nothing to do with the anime but i want to say this one thing. and sorry

i believe talent is not jus given by birth or genetics, but it can also be given through true wisdom.

[fox_t]

Originally posted by: splash
nobody said Kira was perfect. They said he was a perfected coordinator, which only means that they were able to take genetic engineering to a whole new level with him since he was synthetically bred. Thats what makes him the ultimate but then again thats only a question about how much knowledge people possess about this whole situation. Maybe there was much more going in this genetic engineering business, after all, what is up with the concept of being EXTENDED? How does Dullindal relate to the whole thing anyhow. I think there is more to things than Kira being the best of the best. Maybe Rey , Rau and Neo's newtype flashes have something to do with the whole thing as well

You need to watch GS again and listen Rau`s rants.

Kira is the ultimate coordinator because they were able to modify his genes to the specifications of the perfect human being and have him born with no mistakes. The concept of being an Extended relates to the concept of being a coordinator. Only Humans hate coordinators but clearly a coordinator can defeat a regular human being in MS combat. Extended are just coordinators in another form, but clearly that process has not been perfected. Or has it? Maybe that`s what Ray represents, a perfect extended who knows???? That part of the story has yet to be determined...

But the fact of the matter is (call it what u want), perfect, ultimate it`s all the same thing. Kira is the best of the best, Rau said it...Dullindal acknowledge it. Now you`re just dealing in semantics, maybe u dislike Kira, or perhaps you didn`t watch GS, but he is the ultimate coordinator. Which means of the current population on Earth and in Plant Kira is the perfect version of every one of them...Shinn included. When people talk about being perfect, being the best, being able to do anything and everything and being number one...they`re talking about Kira.

[Dannynonsense]

wow this debate has gone so far off topic the orignal debate was if kira is the ultimate coodinator does that automaticaly make him the ultimate pilot but moving on. Asuran seed mode is well develope has anyone cared to mentioned how asuran when he first went into seed had a different anime sequence and then kira when he gets freedom has the same sequence and now shinn has a completely diffrent sequence, the point here is that seed clearly can make you a better pilot however its sorta wierd how it works and if has nothing to do with being the ulimate coodinator which in the first place was to genetically alter a child to one's liking without any influence from the mother's womb. so lastly talent aint got shit to do with this debate

@ fox_t extended pilots can be considered a coodinator in a diffrent form but the concept is to give them a drug wich increase brain activtiy and sharpen's the 5 senses where coodinators are just a newtype of human extended are just drastically altered human beings

[Splash!]

hehe, arent you a big Kira fanboy,

no i do not personally dislike Kira, but i am just saying that there talk about Kira being all that he is is based on the knowledge that THEY have. And i do not presume that they have knowledge of everything in the world.

[naruto-kira]

yes i kira is the most phyically gift coordinator, talent wise(multi task) good vision, touch feel, hearing, smell and all of those things, but mentally always depends on the person...there are times kira break down mentally....but other than all that, yes he is the most gifted coordinator

[fox_t]

Kira is like Cloud. He`s not some freak accident, he`s the result of years of experimentation.

Countless coordinator babies born with mistake after mistake, him and Canard are the only ones who weren`t.

No i`m not a fanboy.

Everything he`s ever done in the show, he`s been better than everyone else.

1) First time out in a mobile suit he killed Rusty (trained soldier).

2) First time out in a mobile suit he reprogrammed the operating system to run better DURING a fight.

3) Reprogrammed the operating system in the desert. A feat that no one from the Klueze squad accomplished.

He may not be absolute perfect but he`s better than the rest. So from everyone elses perspective he`s perfect, and not everything has to be absolute, relativism accounts for many things as well.

[Splash!]

hmm... SEED can make u a better pilot, i agree with that but that dusn mean that just coz u have the SEED u reign supreme over everyone else. After all, i consider Yzak to be a better pilot than Athrun, and he aint got no SEED.
Whats the whole deal with SEED anyway, isnt it the ability to see through things and know when to make a decision and make the right one. At least thats how Malchio defined it i think

[MeroTZ]

I thought SEED was an acronym for something totally unrelated to what we refer to as SEED mode. In fact, I thought SEED just referred to a person's ability to have a disproportionate effect on events? IE, Kira has a much larger effect onevents than a normal person.

Call me crazy.

[Splash!]

yeah it is an acronym standing for Superior Evolutionary Element Destined Factor but i was talking about more of what the philosophy of it was, as its more of a theoretical concept

[AtHRunOwNZaLL]

wow sooo many nerds, i don't get anything u guys r saying at all lol

[Splash!]

"There are in fact two ways that SEED mode can be activated. When a character suddenly resolves to protect their allies or to strike down their enemies, SEED mode is shown as a falling seed which bounces once and explodes. However, if a character has entered battle with a particular resolve, they may trigger SEED mode at will, and it is instead represented as a spinning seed which explodes in a vertical nova. Kira Yamato, Cagalli Yula Athha, and Shinn Asuka all originally entered SEED mode via the first method. Athrun Zala always used the second method to enter SEED mode, and Kira also attained this ability after he made his decision about what he really needed to fight for and against after being beaten by Athrun. Also, in the Second Battle of Jakin Duue, Lacus Clyne was able to enter SEED mode after a long philosophical soliloquy about the nature of warfare and death.

SEED mode can only be entered by a character who will commit themselves fully to a battle for some strong reason. For this reason, Athrun Zala and Cagalli Yula Athha have both been unable to demonstrate their SEED abilities in Gundam SEED Destiny, due to Athrun's doubts about whether ZAFT is really justified to fight this war, and Cagalli's reservations about whether her interventionism is the best way to protect Orb from the war. Kira Yamato, however, has been able to activate his SEED mode at will all through Destiny, because he is motivated to protect his friends and indeed the entire world from aggressive powers."

(Courtesy Wikipedia)

hmmm, thats interesting, especially the idea of the SEED being horizontal and vertical, God someone in the world must have the time to notice all that

[AtHRunOwNZaLL]

wow nice finding, never knew that

[Dannynonsense]

thats nice and all splash but wikipedia is sometimes wrong moving on all shinn lovers, fans, whatever the hell you are that has something to do with shinn asuka i got something for you one of the greatest character pic ive seen so far for gsd right here (http://www.bad-luck.net/blindgameag.../smexyshinn.jpg)

if the link dont work here's the page i found it at narutoforums http://forums.narutofan.com/sh...1&page=6&pp=20 (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=43041&page=6&pp=20)

[Splash!]

yes i know that still but it is interesting that Athrun's SEED was postioned differently

Something wrong with that Shinn pic dusn work for me

[naruto-kira]

it doesnt matter about seed mode, all we know is that when seed mode is in that person, he becomes more stronger. and what we call it "IN THE ZONE", its jus a time where everything connects with no limitation.=D that is also wut coordinateS are lines connecting....maybe thats why they are called COORDINATORS... there is no logical explaination for seed mode, never explain in GS or GSD, shinn is on battle mode most of the time u dont c him on seed mode so easily. kira can activate so easily because he is... again..... the ultimate coordinator,(ultimate coordinator(coordinates)..??? easiest to connect in the zone maybe....=P he gets In The Zone the easiest.

quote-When a character suddenly resolves to protect their allies or to strike down their enemies, SEED mode is shown as a falling seed which bounces once and explodes.

1.that is the only time nessary to activate it....oviously, no one is gonna need that much concentration walking around......

but know this kira can activate right from the start while shinn or athrun take him a while.

[Dannynonsense]

seriously dude your in love with kira to much. any who in the destiny manga spoiler for those who havent read it
george glenn says the genetically alter human is called a coodinator because they were made to coodinate the natural evolution of all naturals very naive on mister glenn's part since now we have two factions who want each other dead

[naruto-kira]

i thought there isn't a gundam destiny manga.......there is a gundam seed astray, but no gundam destiny manga...and gundam seed astray is a whole different side of the story. that wut i hear from chat rooms.

[Motteh]

what danny nonsense says is actually explained during a Seed recap episode
and to naruto-kira: you haven't fully read (or understood) splash's post about that
it's clearly explained that there were 2 ways of entering SEED mode
1: when trying/needing to protect someone
2: when fighting a specific enemy

and also, SEED mode isn't limited to coordinators only, unless Cagalli is turned around into a coordinator all of a sudden

[Dannynonsense]

thanks motteh i was in a rush so i didnt have time to go over my post. so that was said in seed and in the astray manga when lowe is talking to the copy of george glenn's brain ( i know its still amazes me know) something like that happened in the manga so thanks again motteh

[Motteh]

you're welcome dannynonsense

also the pic that dannynonsense tried to post earlier is here (http://www.bad-luck.net/blindgameagain/gundamseed/smexyshinn.jpg)
just thought i'd link it again in case no one understood/bothered to look it up i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[Dannynonsense]

you know thats been happening alot to me lately trouble with the link did you try anything different while putting up the link

[Roko]

Originally posted by: cybercoin
Yeah, it's 1 METEOR not 2. Kira's METEOR got destroyed and Athrun dumped it in space. So they might still have that one. And I don't think that Freedom is getting repaired. They are going to steal the Strike Freedom. As far as I know. And they are not going to shoot ZAFT to pieces or anything. The AA just doesn't want a war.

wowow...are you saying that METEORs can't be rebuilt? I find that kinda impossible...

[SKY_SO_BLUE]

Maybe there would be a new set of METEORS for I. Justice and S. Freedom. ^_^ Never know.. it's possible!

[Nyro]

Before I respond to someone: I think the Meteor System's may have to make a return... look at the number of ZAFT forces attacking Heaven's Base. Probably similiar numbers attack orb, minus Meteor, that isn't enough.



"There are in fact two ways that SEED mode can be activated. When a character suddenly resolves to protect their allies or to strike down their enemies, SEED mode is shown as a falling seed which bounces once and explodes. However, if a character has entered battle with a particular resolve, they may trigger SEED mode at will, and it is instead represented as a spinning seed which explodes in a vertical nova. Kira Yamato, Cagalli Yula Athha, and Shinn Asuka all originally entered SEED mode via the first method. Athrun Zala always used the second method to enter SEED mode, and Kira also attained this ability after he made his decision about what he really needed to fight for and against after being beaten by Athrun. Also, in the Second Battle of Jakin Duue, Lacus Clyne was able to enter SEED mode after a long philosophical soliloquy about the nature of warfare and death.

SEED mode can only be entered by a character who will commit themselves fully to a battle for some strong reason. For this reason, Athrun Zala and Cagalli Yula Athha have both been unable to demonstrate their SEED abilities in Gundam SEED Destiny, due to Athrun's doubts about whether ZAFT is really justified to fight this war, and Cagalli's reservations about whether her interventionism is the best way to protect Orb from the war. Kira Yamato, however, has been able to activate his SEED mode at will all through Destiny, because he is motivated to protect his friends and indeed the entire world from aggressive powers."

I don't buy it. Kira was in SEED mode at the end of Gundam SEED with no animation for it whatsoever. I think its just more bs from Wikipedia.

[Sano]

It would be nice if there was a new improved version of the Meteor that could be used on the S. freedom and I. justice that packed 2X more the firepower than the orignal ones did.

[Motteh]

Originally posted by: Dannynonsense
you know thats been happening alot to me lately trouble with the link did you try anything different while putting up the linknot that i know off, maybe you had an incomplete adress or perhaps a double http, and it didn't work because of that


Originally posted by: Sano
It would be nice if there was a new improved version of the Meteor that could be used on the S. freedom and I. justice that packed 2X more the firepower than the orignal ones did.2x the firepower of the original METEOR? that would seriously be overkill, cause the firepower METEOR had was crazy
i mean, a gazillion missiles? times 2???

[danholo]

New Meteor:

http://dat.2chan.net/18/src/1120899699179.jpg

From the new opening. Screen caps have just started to flood the internet but no news yet on who has the opening pose. The RAW of Phase 38 should be out in a couple of hours.

http://s03.2log.net/home/gunota/op4scenes.jpg

Athrun in an Orb uniform. Mwu in an Orb uniform!
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3328/11209026956804rw.jpg

Stuff I find interesting:

Shinn and Rey are FAITH. Mwu's back in Orb colors. Athrun dons these colors as well. Kira is the central character. Shinn has a sad face in the "trio" shot.



Next Phase "Kira of the Sky":

http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss39_nagaiyo.asx
http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss39_nagaiyo.ram

Make way, Freedom! Look at the Dragoons. And hear Vestige in the background.

[Chris_Xion]

Oh Yea...looks cool.But is that Andrew's Gaia in Gold colour?And that pict with Yzak n Dearka,i thought i saw Dearka's Gunner ZAKU but Yzak's definitely not a Slash Zaku Phantom,coz that one has a beam sword,Slash ZAKUs are armed with Beam Halberds.

[Chris_Xion]

Cool picts u got there...Akatsuki looks cool,but is that Andrew's Gaia in GOLD?Also,Yzak's MS is not a Slash ZAKU Phantom,coz the MS in da pict uses a beam sword/sabre,while Slash ZAKUs use beam halberds.Lacus looks sexy in black,n i juz luv Meyrin's long hair(looks better than childish tied-up hair)

Sorry for double post,first time i post my browser didnt show it...SORRY

[SKY_SO_BLUE]

Hey on those pictures with Athrun and I. Justice It looks like the jet behind I.J. can also move down towards its waist as well. (Just my observation on no sure)

[ev0luti0nzer0]

Wooow Hooo Cant wait for Phase 39, when Strike Freedom unleeshes the DRAGOONs ^^

[ev0luti0nzer0]

EDIT: Sorry for double post, Browser didnt show my post.

[Guardian_2000]

From what I've heard the all gold suit is Akatsuki. Hyaku Shiki for the UCist around here. Andy's getting the black and gold Gaia from the looks have to double check. Looks like the Murasames get a new paint scheme as well. Mwu also seems like he may in fact be Mwu again recovered from the brain washing. But I am definately happy to see the loving of the Meteors again. Three cheers for DESTINY and its ability to make me drool twice over after watching the intro and ending.

[MeroTZ]

From the looks of the episode preview, it may be Andy in Strike Freedom? I heard something to that effect long ago.

Gawd, that opening is FULL of crazy shit. Lacus in a little black thing. Akatsuki. That end frame with Kira, Athrun, and Shinn. Maybe there is redemption for him yet.

Ooooh, just occured to me, in this whole "Destiny faster than Freedom" debate... Destiny fastter than a Meteor? We'll see.... mwahahahhh

[cybercoin]

Shinn VS Rey.

Everybody who faced Shinn in a scene like that, actually fought him.

[ChaosK]

yeeah, the intro proves what i've been thinking for a while, shinn will join sides with kira and athurn and he'll kill rey. We cant have kira kill shinn considering they're both "the heart" of the show shinn better wise up soon.

metor isnt necessarily fast, it is armed with a shitload of missles and weapons, it probably has like 4 extra boosters to add onto freedom's boosters (not 4 more, 4...add-ons i guess to make freedom even faster)

[RoninChaos]

Im going to call this before anyone else does. I'm betting that Strike Rouge gets DESTROYED and/or HEAVILY DAMAGED when Kira goes into space.


Then ZAFT and the EA attack Orb while Strike Rouge is away in space. That's the
excuse why Cagali gets a new mobile suit.

[RoninChaos]

Also, having FIVE destroy gundams get DESTROYED in a single episode is lame and a humungous waste.

[Barumonk]

Kind of a random theory after someone (actually, I think the guy ahove this post) posted in another thread and said "Luna is the new hand me down pilot." Considering Mwu's fate in the last series (not counting before GSD was finalized as a project) it wouldn't be that suprising if Lunamaria did die in the last episodes. If so then that, along with her time away from her sister, will have taken away whatever inferiority complexes Meyrin has about herself and verbally confront Shinn. Shinn would start having doubts and Rey would do something extreme and end up pushing a Shinn vs Rey battle. ^^;; Just a theory, of course.

[darkshadow]

if luna dies now, shinn will burst into a MEGA RAGE, destroying everything without reasoning

[Roko]

Don't think anyone's mentioned this: according to MAHQ, Gaia has three pilots: Stellar Loussier, Riika Sheder, Andrew Waltfeld. I'm willing to bet that Riika Sheder is a ZAFT elite pilot that becomes Gaia's new pilot, but then the Clyne Faction kills him/her (I have no idea which) when trying to escape, then they takes Gaia along. What do you guys think?

[darkshadow]

didnt know that, but that makes alot of sence, seeing how zaft currently has recovered gaia

[ChaosK]

^ i was sure Gaia couldnt fly at all so how would it make it into earth's orbit, or even fight in space? (we know the final fight will be in space)



Originally posted by: darkshadow
if luna dies now, shinn will burst into a MEGA RAGE, destroying everything without reasoning

err, he doesnt have very good reasoning to begin with (no i'm not really bashing shinn its true)

[Dannynonsense]

Originally posted by: Roko
Don't think anyone's mentioned this: according to MAHQ, Gaia has three pilots: Stellar Loussier, Riika Sheder, Andrew Waltfeld. I'm willing to bet that Riika Sheder is a ZAFT elite pilot that becomes Gaia's new pilot, but then the Clyne Faction kills him/her (I have no idea which) when trying to escape, then they takes Gaia along. What do you guys think?

nope she/he was gaia's test pilot in destiny astray manga

[Roko]

ah, okay, that explains a lot. I didn't read the astray manga, so I didn't know.
Then I guess the Clyne Faction just steals Gaia then...

[RoninChaos]

I absolutely flat out refuse to believe that 3 Gundams were able to change the ENTIRE course of the battle in the latest episode. I can accept that they interfere somewhat but not enough to change the outcome. The amount of troops and firepower gathered at Heaven's base shouldn't be affected by the interference of 3 Gundams.

Shinn hacking down an entire fleet in impulse? Puh-lease. The amount of firepower that the ZAFT fleet was hit with which included:

5 Destroy gundams massive back cannons which lay waste to an entire city in one shot,
a MOUNTAIN SIZED CYCLOPS/GENESIS generator,
an entire fleet of newly developed mobile armors and underwater forbidden mobile suits,
a small continent sized missile barrage,
and a whole grunt mobile suit fleet

which should have ANNIHILATED the ZAFT/EA combined fleet VERY early on.

Complete Garbage.

[RoninChaos]

Destiny Gundam is what Strike Gundam SHOULD have become. Not this IWSP garbage.

[DragonBladeX]

Come on now, its just an anime. And its directed by Fukuda(not sure if i got the name right), he does what he wants with the series. If you have a problem with the series take it up with him. What were you expecting him to do then, kill off the ZAFT army and one of the main characters just because of superior firepower? As I've said, its an anime not real-life so get a grip, if you don't like the way the show is being directed, don't watch it.

Btw keep the comments on what we're discussing is pointless to yourself. If everyone listens to you, this whole GSD thread/topic would have been dead. And I have to say GotWoot forum has the better intelligence of discussion of topics compared to other topic boards. That was why I signed up with GotWoot.

[RoninChaos]

Originally posted by: DragonBladeX
What were you expecting him to do then, kill off the ZAFT army and one of the main characters just because of superior firepower? As I've said, its an anime not real-life so get a grip, if you don't like the way the show is being directed, don't watch it.


When Orb was attacked by the EA in Seed, Orb had homefield advantage, the newly developed M1 astray army with the 3 Astray girls, the Archangel, Freedom, Justice, Strike, AND Buster. Four Gundams, YET orb still lost. How is it that that four 1st generation gundams are able to massacre the entire 8th armada yet not be able to make a difference in the orb battle?

Shinn is able to make massive difference in the Heavens Base battle, and yet Kira and Asuran weren't able to successfully turn the tide in their orb battle. Are you saying then that Shinn is the better mobile suit pilot?

[Dannynonsense]

yep thats a good point but like the director would say those of a righteous mind will have a righteous victory which is prue bs besides in the end heavens base surrender whereas orb was destroyed so it sorta makes sense i think the only reason why they surrender was because dijribl left like a coward

[Nyro]

New Meteor is very interesting. I can't wait for Kira to get his grubby little hands on SF and take it to ZAFT.

[MrTicTac]

"Shinn is able to make massive difference in the Heavens Base battle, and yet Kira and Asuran weren't able to successfully turn the tide in their orb battle. Are you saying then that Shinn is the better mobile suit pilot? "

meh prolly just for story reasons,, orb had to fall

[Motteh]

Originally posted by: RoninChaos
When Orb was attacked by the EA in Seed, Orb had homefield advantage, the newly developed M1 astray army with the 3 Astray girls, the Archangel, Freedom, Justice, Strike, AND Buster. Four Gundams, YET orb still lost. How is it that that four 1st generation gundams are able to massacre the entire 8th armada yet not be able to make a difference in the orb battle?

Shinn is able to make massive difference in the Heavens Base battle, and yet Kira and Asuran weren't able to successfully turn the tide in their orb battle. Are you saying then that Shinn is the better mobile suit pilot?of the 4 suits that slaughtered the 8th armada only Buster was present, besides, you forget the druggies in their suits that pretty much kept Kira and Athrun at bay that episode, it was Mwu's first battle in Strike and so it was for all the M1 pilots
all these added up, plus the fact they needed a valid reason to go up into space, storywise, explains why Orb fell in Seed

[pash241]

Jesus... I just can't wait for next episode... that's strike-freedom right? hehe 39 is gonna be good

[Chris_Xion]

Me too...all this waiting for SF to finally reveal itself.I bet Yzak and Dearka will defect to Eternal while Kira could own the ZAFT grunts in Strike Rouge,then get SF so hands down Strike Rouge to Mwu

[pash241]

hmm.. i dunno... is'nt strike rouge too.... err.. well girly for Mwu.. o_0?
but then again... Cagalli will get that new gold suit and Andrew already has his Murasame and he DID fly a Strike before... so unless we see Sai come out from nowhere and pilot it, I guess Mwu will most likely pilot strike rouge...

[Chris_Xion]

Well,Andrew gets Gaia,so the only GOOD candidate for Strike Rouge would be Mwu.

Also,where the hell are the IWSP packs for Strike Rouge?The specs for that striker pack was already shown in SEED,but till now i havent seen it in action...

[pash241]

I guess they where to lazy to actually MAKE a new luncher and sword when they built strike rouge but the original
strike's equipment should still be in AA, I think luncher was destroyed or damaged in the last episodes of SEED and Aile blew up with Strike but sword should still be there so they would have to equip it on Rouge. Then again... sword is not that good and the producers are probably to lazy to actually make strike rouge use new equipment

I guess there's only one thing we can be sure of... Strike-Freedom will own everything!!!

[Digitalgirl]

Lacus could pilot Strike Rouge...*cough* ok, nvm

[Splash!]

nah strike rouge is definitely not right for mwu, unless they give it a new paintjob.... but hey mwu's windam and exass were pink too so i dont think hes gonna go with a new paint job, still i believe mwu deserves more. Some new kinda of MS maybe, who knows

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: splash
nah strike rouge is definitely not right for mwu, unless they give it a new paintjob.... but hey mwu's windam and exass were pink too so i dont think hes gonna go with a new paint job, still i believe mwu deserves more. Some new kinda of MS maybe, who knows

My money's on Mwu winding up in Andy's murasame. No others suits really possible at this point. Spoilers indicate Strike Rouge being taken to space, and the murasame really is the only choice....

[NomoZ]

One thing you have to remember though is that he still think's he is Neo, so they could be back up in space if/when he gets his memory back. If that does happen, I wonder how Ramius will react to him getting into strike again considering what happened last time.

[oyabun]

i really think just12 eps will be enough for SF and If to arrive, in gs, freedom is introduced earlier. i hope they make up for the time and shows some very cool moves for both SF and IF

[AtHRunOwNZaLL]

don't u mean IJ?

[Roko]

Of course he does.
It really looks like this series is gonna be one mad dash to the finish; therefore, I'm still hopeful but a little more skeptical that GSD will go out with a boom.

[naruto-kira]

nah i think strike rouge will be pilot by athrun and strike freedom by kira

lacus never showed us any battle experiece, and she is really not the type to battle, mwu- i dunno what is he thinking, he is sitll pretty new to us like a mystery dude, i dout he will pilot it.

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: naruto-kira
nah i think strike rouge will be pilot by athrun and strike freedom by kira

lacus never showed us any battle experiece, and she is really not the type to battle, mwu- i dunno what is he thinking, he is sitll pretty new to us like a mystery dude, i dout he will pilot it.

Methinks Athrun will just be recovered from his injuries when he gets Infinite Justice. No real time in between for Strike Rouge.

[Strike Freedom]

That would be funny if Asuran just decides to pilot Strike Rouge with it still being pink. Maybe he suffers a concussion, doesn't realize his surroundings too much but wants to help fight. As he goes to join Kira, Kira in shock tells Asuran, "Dude your MS is pink man, PINK!" Asuran in complete shock (and at this time also very disturbed by the news) decides to abandon the Strike Rouge. Meanwhile the AA thinks: Asuran is gay???

Actually, I'm just having a little fun and no ill will towards Asuran on my part. As long as Kira with SF and Asuran with IF justice own both Rey with Legend and Shinn with Destiny, I'll be a happy camper with the series. I have a feeling that it will be SF vs Legend and IF vs Destiny, then finally Legend vs Destiny....hmmmm....but I would really like SF vs Destiny, SF checkmates Destiny, Shinn goes back home crying to the chairman and Rey gets jealous in the process i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Splash!]

ohuh! you mentioned pink and gay. Lets just hope you dont set of another heated debate here over homo and heterosexuality

[Strike Freedom]

Splash, thanks, I did not intend to begin a debate there or nor was it my intention to bash anyone's choice of sexuality...just a what if statement with Asuran...since we know he's not gay....or is he?......(that last part was a joke for those who tend to take things out of hand i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif)

[naruto-kira]

u know these days pink is a hot color, u c alot of guys wear it get it....girls love it

[naruto-kira]

u know these days pink is a hot color, u c alot of guys wear it get it....girls love it

[Dannynonsense]

since when did the color pink influence the outcome of this series i could have sworn the the threads name was Upcoming Events.... SEED Destiny Thoughts people have such a natural talent to go off topic

moving on has any one found lineart for akatsuki

[Mut]

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HETERO AND HOMOSEXUALITY STOP BRING IT UP

[john_doe_107]

Mwu was given a hand me down gundam- he died
Shinn said he'd protect stellar- she died.

lunamaria is now piloting a hand me down gundam AND shinn said he'd protect stellar..
you make your own conclusion

[cybercoin]

Same wavelenght here i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

It's not pink....ITS LIGHTISH RED!!

Dude were already have a colour for that....its called pink XD

[telemari]

he said he will protect impulse not her. so probably only impulse will die.

[john_doe_107]

Originally posted by: john_doe_107
Mwu was given a hand me down gundam- he died
Shinn said he'd protect stellar- she died.

lunamaria is now piloting a hand me down gundam AND shinn said he'd protect stellar..
you make your own conclusion

woppss..i made a boo boo, shinn said he'd protect luna



he said he will protect impulse not her. so probably only impulse will die.

same thing! come on..have a bit of ironic fun here

[Kirakun]

Originally posted by: telemari
he said he will protect impulse not her. so probably only impulse will die.

Actually he DID say he'd protect Luna in one of the eps before that.

[Kirakun]

Originally posted by: RoninChaos
I absolutely flat out refuse to believe that 3 Gundams were able to change the ENTIRE course of the battle in the latest episode. I can accept that they interfere somewhat but not enough to change the outcome. The amount of troops and firepower gathered at Heaven's base shouldn't be affected by the interference of 3 Gundams.

Shinn hacking down an entire fleet in impulse? Puh-lease. The amount of firepower that the ZAFT fleet was hit with which included:

5 Destroy gundams massive back cannons which lay waste to an entire city in one shot,
a MOUNTAIN SIZED CYCLOPS/GENESIS generator,
an entire fleet of newly developed mobile armors and underwater forbidden mobile suits,
a small continent sized missile barrage,
and a whole grunt mobile suit fleet

which should have ANNIHILATED the ZAFT/EA combined fleet VERY early on.

Complete Garbage.



I totally agree with you here. And I know for a fact a massive amount of the ZAFT/EAF fleet was destroyed in the process but the worst part is they'll go about it as if the 5 Destroy's did absolutely nothing.

[Guardian_2000]

There was quite abit of other forces that you see in there. The three gundams just led t he charge in and were focused on as they were fighting the Destroys. That was sorta the reason thy showed Luna leading the ZAFT forces in. I think the chairman actually expected some sorta move like this from LOGOS which is why the EA forces led the movement. Its not too hard to believe. Plus this isn't the EA's main forces. Heaven's base is small compared to the moon's forces as Yuna said even if they beat Heaven's base by some chance. There would be the moon to then contend with and that would be impossible. I want to see the Eurasian forces that developed the Hyperion's. I get the feeling they'll be doing something in Destiny Astray thou perhaps.

[pash241]

Well i think we can all agree that the ultimate battle in space will be something... but if Moon base gets 10 destroy gundams out... my faith towards GSD will be seriously affected... but anyways all i'm waiting for (and im not the only one) is when Kira comes back in SF and Shinn learns it. Haha i'm already picturing his face, this is gonna be fun. That asides, what if the final fight is not Moon base vs. ZAFT... what if it's Zaft proclaming supreme supremacy over other countries and it ends up ORB and all free nations vs. ZAFT? o_0

This is annoying we dont even know who the REAL ennemy is yet, who will be the ultimate bad guy? Dullindal most likely but he does'nt look like the bad guy pilot

[Chris_Xion]

Well,i'd have to agree with pash here,they havent revealed a CLEAR true enemy,we all know Dullindal is manipulating things,but LOGOS?It's like they're having a shadow war here...anyway,the EAF moon base is huge.They have fleets of warships,MS and other shit up there.Even when ZAFT had MS and EAF had only mobiuses in SEED,it took GENESIS to take out a moon base.

My bet in the final episodes in space is a 3-sided war between remnant EAF moon forces-ZAFT-Orb/Clyne Faction...i dont think Orb and EAF will ally agaist ZAFT.

[Splash!]

Who knows maybe minerva will join with the AA and orb. I mean it is quite possible. That would really put a dent in Dullindal's plan. But then it would make the story way too similar to SEED itself. Coz then Rey would kinda be all to himself with Legend like Rau and providence. And Lunamaria and Shinn on the good side. Not that i particularly like this scenario as it is too goody goody but it is definitely a possibility. The thing is mnay of the scenarios put forward seem to involve the deaths of most the Destiny Cast and i dont know if that is necessarily the right thing to do.

[Roko]

How about Luna stays with Rey and Zaft? I know I know, not too possible, but still, just another idea; if this does happen, I wanna see what Shinn does if he's forced to fight her.

[Guardian_2000]

As for the Strike Freedom appearance. Hasn't it been confirmed that during the fight between Shinn and Cagalli before he can deal a victory blow Strike Freedom shows up to settle the score? I'm actually hoping there is no true enemy. Real life isn't like that why should it be so black and white in Destiny?

Good vs Evil. I like the grey of ZAFT in this one. Although for certain they are evil at its core with the chairman in power. But that goes for the EAF being controlled by LOGOS for the most part.

[Kirakun]

I sincerely hope the Minerva doesn't defect to help the AA out. At that point it's just a bunch of great pilots in Gundams beating down a bunch of grunts. They only ones I want to see defect is Yzak and Dearka.

[TeknoXI]

Originally posted by: Kirakun
I sincerely hope the Minerva doesn't defect to help the AA out. At that point it's just a bunch of great pilots in Gundams beating down a bunch of grunts. They only ones I want to see defect is Yzak and Dearka.
Aye, I agree w/ you in that if the Minerva does defect, it's going to be pretty one sided. I wonder if Dearka and Milly will get back together...

To make GSD more like GS, they would have to make Rey destroy Core Splendor and have Shinn go berserk and kill Rey.

I wonder if the EAF will bring out more druggies. I mean, the first 3 druggies were brought in around this time in the series right?

And Lacus must not die! Nevah! I will cry if she dies. Kira and Lacus finally began to show more of a romantic relationship finally. Same w/ Athrun and Cagalli. Maybe Dearka and Milly. And possibly Yzak and his GF (I forget name). Ooooo... and can't forget Mwu and Ramius. Am I missing anymore? Luna and Shinn? Rey and Dullundal?

[Curium]

Originally posted by: MeroTZ


Originally posted by: splash
nah strike rouge is definitely not right for mwu, unless they give it a new paintjob.... but hey mwu's windam and exass were pink too so i dont think hes gonna go with a new paint job, still i believe mwu deserves more. Some new kinda of MS maybe, who knows

My money's on Mwu winding up in Andy's murasame. No others suits really possible at this point. Spoilers indicate Strike Rouge being taken to space, and the murasame really is the only choice....

Personally I don't think they will let Neo back into an MS until the very end. The biggest way I expect him to contribute is with the Girty Lue. Of course that depends on if the crew chooses to be loyal to Djbril or to Neo.

Oh, and I still stand behind the idea that Neo is not Mwu. I just think there are TOO MANY clues saying that he is. There was a quote in Hamlet (I think) "Me thinks the lady doth protest too much".

[darkshadow]

i hope arcangel gets DESTROYED ( stupid ugly thing), then the crew escapes to eternal, and we can finally have some decent space battles

[pash241]

hmm... AA will most likely NOT be destroyed... it's like a symbol... and Orb's ONLY ship. o_0 (Well at least their only good one.) and the posibility of Minerva deflecting with AA is quite near impossible. Minerva is like the main oposition AA will get in the next war. Eternal will be for sure on AA's side but that old ship fom ORB.. Kusanagi i think.. well since we did see Kisaka (Cagalli's bodyguard) come back it MIGHT just make an apperance ( <-- yea right...) the whole point of those 3 in SEED was that they had 3 ships from the 3 nations wishing for peace. AA from EAF, Eternal from Zaft and Kusanagi from ORB. Like i said, this will most likely not happen in GSD seeing as only ORB and Clyne faction agree that both Zaft and EAF are wrong... man i'm just wondering How the hell are they gonna sort this out i the end? peace? One way to find out i guess... i hate waiting....

[telemari]

There won't be a ship from EA this time. Thanks to chairman, there doesn't exist anymore.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: telemari
There won't be a ship from EA this time. Thanks to chairman, there doesn't exist anymore.

What about the Girty Lue?

[telemari]

you're right. GSD just have more fractions than GS: ZAFT - Minerva, ORB - Archangel, EA - Girty Lue, Clyne's - Eternal.

[Dannynonsense]

Originally posted by: Curium


Originally posted by: telemari
There won't be a ship from EA this time. Thanks to chairman, there doesn't exist anymore.

What about the Girty Lue?

its most likely docked on the moonbase we dont know if it ever decesend onto earth

[Curium]

Originally posted by: Dannynonsense


Originally posted by: Curium


Originally posted by: telemari
There won't be a ship from EA this time. Thanks to chairman, there doesn't exist anymore.

What about the Girty Lue?

its most likely docked on the moonbase we dont know if it ever decesend onto earth

Also important is a point I posted somewhere else on whether the crew is loyal to Djbril or to Neo.

[ChaosK]

it seems everybody was obsessed with Neo. "NOOO I'LL DO IT FOR NEO! AS LONG AS HE KEEPS GIVING ME SEX!!!"

[Curium]

I guess this is probably the best thread for random stuff. I just thought this was an interesting approach to eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...;category=617&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6415127631&category=61 7&rd=1)

They start the bidding at 1 cent with no reserve, meaning you can acctually win it for 1 cent, but if you aren't paying attention you might get tricked into the $36 shipping charge. Buyer be ware.

[Guardian_2000]

The EA forces under LOGOS control are definately still in this fight. The moon base exists. Also I believe there are plenty more Extended. Remember Destroy is piloted only by Extendeds. When it powers up it has to link up to a living CPU and you get that sync ration. Stellar had a better ratio than Sting. She was prolly above 90%. I also suspect that Yzak and Dearka will switch sides bringing a nice gift with them. The recaptured Gaia. This is probably gonna occur as Lacus is exploring the plants and Kira has to rescue her. But I'm wondering if that scene will even happen now. It said he comes in the Strike Rouge. Is it just to switch to the Strike Freedom? Hmmmm

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: Curium
I guess this is probably the best thread for random stuff. I just thought this was an interesting approach to eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...;category=617&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6415127631&category=61 7&rd=1)

They start the bidding at 1 cent with no reserve, meaning you can acctually win it for 1 cent, but if you aren't paying attention you might get tricked into the $36 shipping charge. Buyer be ware.

Not that I bought this (you cant prove I did!), but if I did I'd tell you that its nothing more than a horrible Chinese forgery, with subs worse than what you can get off of Boxtorrents.

What I dont get, is if Eternal already has Strike Freedom spaceside, with Andy at the helm (my guess as to 39), why would Kira need to save them? Lol.

[Nyro]

Cause Andy doesn't have the spatial awareness to take down 20+ Mobile suits at once. My guess is that Andy is actually either in his Gaia or he is in IJ. Kira gets there in Rouge and takes down as many MS's as he can then Lacus is all like 'get in Eternal I have a sword the size of san diego for you.' and then its just complete Kira ownage after that.

PS: Who wants to bet during the fight at Orb somehow, Destiny or Legend or a ZAFT MS has a final shot lined up on either AA or Akatsuki and Kira does his normal dramatic entrance taking out the gun?

[Guardian_2000]

Kira's gonna do his dramatic entrance saving Cagalli from Shinn. Atleast according to everything I've read. Oh and here's a teaser pic for something we've all been waiting for.

http://www.afterimpact.net/files/sfreedom_dragoon.jpg

[Nyro]

Oh yeah, Dragoon FTW!

[Deblas]

Yeah! Now Kira can own everybody at half the time!! WooT!!

[Aramis]

i guess it's somewhat possible for neo/mwu to return to his old self and launch to fight. he seems to have gotten some more skills in GSD too.
and even if someone else is going out in strike rouge soon, if it's someone who knows cagalli, he'd know better than to get her MS blown up. also she will be busy talking to orb citizens or the like, not fighting.
so mwu might get it in the end. neo's suits were all pink so he might like that color now. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif would make a funny scene, er...

Ramius: The only unit we have left is strike rouge here, if you want to join the battle you'll have to settle with this.
Mwu: Oh, but this thing's a gundam! Thought you were gonna put me in one of those orb's pieces of junk.
Ramius: Err...glad you like it. I'll just have the tech team there repaint it and you're good to go.
Mwu: No, wait! Leave it like this. It's kinda cute.
Ramius: o_O

[super_sayayin]

am i the only one who is really getting tired of everyone in Minerva saying what an ace Shinn is. Shinn this... and Shinn that... please. the first time shinn and rey face kira and athrun with their new gundams they are going to hide their tails behind and go back to Dulindal and start crying on his shoulder. So probably Dulindal wants some kind of advice on the combination of kira and athrun.

so he calls in the two people who fought with them in the previous war: yzak and diarda (probably misspelled). They are probably going to say if Shinn and rey are some kind of aces in Destiny and Legend, then kira and athrun combination are super aces where there is no single combination in the entire ZAFT who could face up to them. Hell yeah! it's kira and athrun all the way.

[Dannynonsense]

i just wanted to be the first to confirm the S-Freedom gundam is a machine of mass destruction you wanna know y destiny doesnt have the title shot watch the raw for episode 39 its worth it

[danholo]

Downloading it right now! Strike Freedom!

[Chris_Xion]

Now i noe the 4th OP's Kira in action scene is not Freedom firing its railguns,its reli SF,coz theres a scene in EP39 where SF did this.Cool pose!
Also for those of u who said Strike Rouge had to be repainted r else Neo wouldnt drive it(somebody posted earlier bout repainting Strike Rouge) watch EP39,Kira programmed it to change colours to da original Strike's.Strike Freedom is king!Now it's Infinite Justice n Akatsuki's turn to hog da limelight.

Lacus:X20A Strike Freedom,hashin dozo!

Kira:Kira Yamato,Freedom,ikimas!(Kira still calls SF Freedom: )

(Subsequent humiliation of ZAFT ensues)

[darkshadow]

how can the PS colour be reset????, i thought it was hardcoded into the ms from the start ( or kira is a master hacker )

[Barumonk]

Incase you completely missed Gundam SEED, Kira is a master hacker. =P

[Curium]

Originally posted by: darkshadow
how can the PS colour be reset????, i thought it was hardcoded into the ms from the start ( or kira is a master hacker )

Well 2 things. First, Impulse was always changing colors.

Second, I don't think this is confirmed, but I believe that Kira had been working on the Gundam O.S. in Heliopolis before the ZAFT attack. In the first episode of SEED remember that thing Tolle was dressed up in? It was sort of like a mini-MS. Since the Gundams were top secret Kira wasn't told what he was really doing, but that is what I believe. Having written the basic program to start with makes it easier to hack and rewrite.

[telemari]

curium: maybe point in changing color of PS is that you can use it as a camuflage paint. But it don't seem that anyone cares about camuflage in GS series.

but having suit with PS colored like grunt suit and then see how enemies are WTF when they hit you may be fun i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Millenium-Boyz]

i've watched the whole episode of GS, and now im following up with GSD, but i still dont know what makes coordinator and newtype different. can someone help me to make clear what is coordinator and what is new type?

[oyabun]

@millenium new type is a new kind of human who naturaly knows how to pilot an ms and has special combat abilities, while coordinators had their genes alterd . like kira who is the ultimate coordinator. basically, zaft make babies with abilities they need. like soldiers etc.. i hope this helps

[Souryusen]

Originally posted by: Millenium-Boyz
i've watched the whole episode of GS, and now im following up with GSD, but i still dont know what makes coordinator and newtype different. can someone help me to make clear what is coordinator and what is new type?

Check out the definition of Newtype here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Century_Technology#Newtypes)

[Chris_Xion]

Does anyone got any information on Akatsuki+picts? Watching SF's debut makes me want more...

[Mut]

Akatsuki... Oh shit! Naruto and GSD transfusion!

[Guardian_2000]

Um to note those are UC newtypes you linked to which are different than a CE newtype ever so slightly.

[Nyro]

If by ever so slightly you mean a lot. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[AtHRunOwNZaLL]

@ chris_xion in his first post on this page: no it is freedom that is behind kira in the opening song(when it is using it's railguns and kira is posing) because if u look carefully it shows those 2 guns hidden in freedom's wings

[Millenium-Boyz]

Is all the astray series just manga ? or there is anime
can someone tell me where i can download the manga ?

[Curium]

There is a thread dedicated to looking for Astray Manga, no luck so far.

There were 2 anime shorts for astray. There should be a link somewhere on this board with them.

[Dannynonsense]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Um to note those are UC newtypes you linked to which are different than a CE newtype ever so slightly.

doesnt look like much diffrence except for the fact ce newtypes are underdevloped

[Souryusen]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Um to note those are UC newtypes you linked to which are different than a CE newtype ever so slightly.

No, not really. (http://newtype.biography.ms/)

[Guardian_2000]

Yes really they are. I don't know how much gundam you watch but you might want to watch more UC. There are some big differences.

In UC newtypes could see and talk to ghosts, some could fry peoples minds and send you into a coma. Others could use their newtype abilities to help move a mobile suit or power it up in essence. While the principles of newtypes are the same between the UC and CE newtypes they are slightly different.

In Seed a newtype is someone with an enhanced spatial awareness. They can sense people or distances without seeing them. Almost forming a telepathic bond. They are have a better sense of their surroundings concerning attacking and defending against attacks. Their reaction times are also seem enhanced since they may have a form of precog. Newtypes in this era are very rare possibly disappearing.

UC newtypes were people who were thought to be the next evolution of mankind. People with precognition and those that had a better grasp of how to use machines. They developed the ability to communicate and sense things over great distances. Even using their mind they could mentally control weapons remotely using a device in a mobile suit. And then there are a few more as well.

Somewhere in these forums I believe we had this discussion before and did an indepth look throughout the series for the abilities. If you did you may find it.

[Souryusen]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Somewhere in these forums I believe we had this discussion before and did an indepth look throughout the series for the abilities. If you dig you may find it.

Will do. You cannot, however, deny it would be badass if Mwu could explode peoples' heads.

Man... what a pimp.

[Deamon007]

Originally posted by: Souryusen


Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Somewhere in these forums I believe we had this discussion before and did an indepth look throughout the series for the abilities. If you dig you may find it.

Will do. You cannot, however, deny it would be badass if Mwu could explode peoples' heads.

Man... what a pimp.

man it would be so freaking cool if he could do that i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Strike Freedom]

Speculation on my behalf, and its a given I believe for most of us that Shinn will be losing in battle sometime in the near future to either Kira or Athuran. Why?

Here's a list of reasons:

1.) He's very impulsive and acts on his emotions, creating a disoriented mindset (this can be a plus in that it helps him push himself to the limit but a negative in that he will not be making optimal decisions).

2.) He's become a bit arrogant and cocky, being overconfident is a sure way to a downfall. The more confident you are, the harder the fall in most cases.

3.) Both Kira and Athuran have a score to settle with Shinn, and both will have MS that will be on par (for the most part) with Destiny.

4.) KARMA, all those people he's killed, in my opinion cold-heartedly....there is a natural justice that takes place in this great journey we call life. He's sulking in his own misfortune without realizing the many misfortunes he's passed on to others, that includes the damage Stellar did with DESTROY. Why? Now, it was noble and kind of Shinn to return Stellar to Neo, but him trying to save one life ended up costing many people their own lives, that is why i blame Shinn.

There are more reasons, perhaps you have your own, this is just what I see.

Further, the thing with Shinn is that I do not think that talking sense into him will be enough. I have this hope that he will defect and changes sides, joining forces with SF and IJ. Ideally, I see Athuran TALKING sense into him and Kira BEATING some sense into him. lol. Shinn still has much more development to go through as an adult. He is confused and living on ideals fueled by the Chairman. If any of you are his age, or were, it is easy to put yourself in his shoes. I'm sure at around 16 or so one is very confused about many things, and might question many beliefs and people. I know I did, maybe I was just an oddball i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif.

On another note, the fights Shinn had with Kira and Athuran were in Shinn's favor. During the battle with Kira, he was not focusing on the fight (his focus was on AA), he was not trying to kill Shinn (many have said this and it is true, if you watch that respective episode again and look at where Impulse struck and Freedom struck, you will see that Shinn was in fact trying to deal a lethal and mortal blow to Kira, Kira on the other hand could have done the same but rather aimed higher at the head of impulse. If Kira would have done what Shinn did (which he could have): best case scenario is that it would end with both suits being destroyed and a stalemate and worst case scenario would be that Kira would have most definitely killed Shinn or left him severly injured). Now, with Athuran, Athuran had a grunt suit, thus a definite underdog. Further, Athuran was not trying to fight Shinn, rather talk some sense into him. So, I rest my case on this, I had to give my input on this though.

[NomoZ]

Off Topic Question(didn't want to make a thread for it)

Anyone know what GAT stands for? I think I saw it on here but I dont remember where.

[gundamseed84]

As for whether Shinn will lose in any battles in the near future is still uncertain...maybe he will lose in the upcoming battle with S.F and I.J when it tries to attack Orb...but 2 against one?
Maybe they will be on par...but the battle will end not because of the fall of Destiny, but the rest of the zaft force has fallen. There is a slight chance that Shinn will change sides, he is not really PRO-Zaft as Rey but all in his mind is to end this battle 'NO MATTER WHO THE ENEMY WILL BE'. We can see that captain of minerva has started to show signs of discontent and disagreement with chairman Dullandial, so there is a possibility that she will change side after realising the truth of Dullindal's plan and hence Minerva will change side ---> the Archangel in GSD. The end of the 4th opening shows Shinn placed together with S.F(Kira) and I.J(athrun)---->means they will join forces? (just the ending of the 4th opening in GS where Athrun and Kira is placed together with Lacus and Cagalli. Also in the 4th opening, there is a scene where Shinn faces Rey (in front of Destroy) which is similar to the 3rd opening where Shinn faces Stellar --> and they did fight against each other..so can we guess there is an upcoming battle between Rey and Shinn ---> After Shinn changes side?

[DragonBladeX]

Originally posted by: NomoZ
Off Topic Question(didn't want to make a thread for it)

Anyone know what GAT stands for? I think I saw it on here but I dont remember where.


GAT - Gressorial Armament Tactical

taken from Seed Genesis

[Strike Freedom]

Originally posted by: gundamseed84
As for whether Shinn will lose in any battles in the near future is still uncertain...maybe he will lose in the upcoming battle with S.F and I.J when it tries to attack Orb...but 2 against one?
Maybe they will be on par...but the battle will end not because of the fall of Destiny, but the rest of the zaft force has fallen. There is a slight chance that Shinn will change sides, he is not really PRO-Zaft as Rey but all in his mind is to end this battle 'NO MATTER WHO THE ENEMY WILL BE'. We can see that captain of minerva has started to show signs of discontent and disagreement with chairman Dullandial, so there is a possibility that she will change side after realising the truth of Dullindal's plan and hence Minerva will change side ---> the Archangel in GSD. The end of the 4th opening shows Shinn placed together with S.F(Kira) and I.J(athrun)---->means they will join forces? (just the ending of the 4th opening in GS where Athrun and Kira is placed together with Lacus and Cagalli. Also in the 4th opening, there is a scene where Shinn faces Rey (in front of Destroy) which is similar to the 3rd opening where Shinn faces Stellar --> and they did fight against each other..so can we guess there is an upcoming battle between Rey and Shinn ---> After Shinn changes side?



Ok, I never said both SF and IJ would face Destiny, that would be overkill. I said one of them would. It would not be 2 vs 1 either, there is Rey with Legend, so it would be 2 vs 2. And I agree, just because Destiny falls does not mean that the rest of the zaft forces have fallen (but I never said anything of the nature so if this is on a different side note then yes, i agree with u 100%) True, the captain of the minerva looks like she is "uncomfortable" but I think the chairman might be keeping an eye on her since he's most likely made that observation. And with the potential of Shinn vs Rey, I really like that possibility....

[cybercoin]

Shinn Vs Rey....*drools*

That would be good. Really good.

YOU'RE BETRAYING THE CHAIRMAN BITCH! XD

[OMGWTFBBQx12]

Its obvious Shinn's going to LOSE ONE fight, they ain't making shinn godly as kira are they?
i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Shinn's gonna join the 2man team (kira asuran. Andy dosent count cause he isnt godly i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif )
and its gonna rey vs shinn, lol i expect to hear
" WHY DID YOU BETRAY THE CHAIRMAN, THE CHAIRMAN!!"

[FelixZeroAlastor]

If Shinn joins Asuran and Kira then they better get about 5000 Destroys because they might even give him his own Meteor. If Shinn goes then I'd expect talia to take the Minerva to the other side also.

[intense]

If Shinn joins Athrun and Kira, then im going to hate this show forever. Having three 'Goldy' pilots on one side of the battle is way too powerful, which will result in a bad ending, and cheap fights. Hopefully they wont join up. Also i dont like Shinn, which may count as another reason as to why he shouldnt join with Kira and Athrun.

[Sano]

The Meteors are back after all. Saw it in Ep 39 when it was firing (while being attached to the Eternal). I wonder how the Dragoon sys on SF will be employed if the SF is clamped to the meteor.

[cybercoin]

I guess they won't work then.

[DragonBladeX]

When ur riding METEOR, u don't need the DRAGOON. METEOR is as powerful as it can get with a zillion missile launchers, lasers and 2 big ass beam sabers/laser turret. Fuck they'll just reuse the scene from GS and there u go i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[dakotacree]

well i don't know about the minerva joining the arch angel and eternal... i mean it took the ea sacrificing the arch angel and a whole fleet before the AA left ea. the chairman would have to do something pretty obvious and blatant before that would happen. and even then her crew mates would have to whole heartedly agree with her.... i mean besides almost being killed by your country or whatever zaft it.... i just don't see any other way to get the whole hearted support of her ship. but maybe somehow they'll turn on the chairman.... or at least part of the crew defects.

[ev0luti0nzer0]

Hmm I was searching the net and i found this..

http://i20.photobucket.com/alb...0/11219265833268ds.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/ev0luti0nzer0/11219265833268ds.jpg)

[darkshadow]

its yzaks, just check the ending again

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: darkshadow
its yzaks, just check the ending again

Yzak has a super GOUF? KICKASSS!

[darkshadow]

yup, hes prolly gonna get alot more attention pretty soon ( ill bet those will become instant fav. eps for terra)

[Wren]

where did you find that pic evolution zero? i can see ill want that kit already lol. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[saga]

heres some pics of the new ship os logos dont remenber the name of it gomen

http://www.freephotopost.com/uploads/1805dca15a.jpg

and for gundam astray fans some bios and art work

http://www.freephotopost.com/uploads/f25fb0fa83.jpg

[Curium]

Originally posted by: saga
heres some pics of the new ship os logos dont remenber the name of it gomen

http://www.freephotopost.com/uploads/1805dca15a.jpg


Girty Lue (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed-destiny/girtylue.htm)

[Curium]

Sorry for the double post, but it never showed up on my screen.

[Guardian_2000]

How about we just look at some pics to get an idea about the new mobile suit till tomorrow?

Akatsuki Lineart (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/akatsuki2.jpg)
Akatsuki "Golden MS Reborn" (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/akatsuki.jpg)
Dom Trooper pilots, Strike's Booster, New MA that appeared at Heaven's Base (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/gsd_04.jpg)

[Curium]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
How about we just look at some pics to get an idea about the new mobile suit till tomorrow?

Akatsuki Lineart (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/akatsuki2.jpg)
Akatsuki "Golden MS Reborn" (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/akatsuki.jpg)
Dom Trooper pilots, Strike's Booster, New MA that appeared at Heaven's Base (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/gsd_04.jpg)

Thanks for the pics. I thought it was really interesting in the Akatsuki Lineart that it seems that the beam sabers can be mounted as a bayounet on the beam rifle. Also the new "striker" pack seems to mix Aile with Launcher (or Force and Blast if you prefer Impulse) leaving out the Sword. I'm definitely a lot more impressed then I was before.

[nhoc_kun]

OKie.... I been reading this forum for a long time, but I just not sign in and make a discussion or some... so Im kinda new... ^^ yoroshiku ne...

I don't understand y ppl make discussion r believe that every MS or MA color is painted by color... that didn't make sence to me... I believe that MS and MA had only 1 color, the color's only for newtype & coordinator... so y Kira, Asuran.. etc MS and MA got different color??? I think every ultimate coordinator got there own power on every unit, like everytime they got their new Gundam, the have to type something that take really long, isn't that they typing their own special code or some??? just a question...

I have some ex:
Kira - Strike, Freedom, S-Freedom got the same color... the wat about the strike rouge on eps 39??? the shield still pink because the shield's not related to the gundam, so it's must been painted that y it got the normal color...
Asuran - Aegis, Justice, Saviour, and I-Justice... about the Gouf that he use to escape, I believe that he don't have time to use his special code to make it red.... if so I believe that we'll seen the red Gouf on that eps...
Andy - Ragou, Murasame, and his Gaia....
Heine - Blaze Zaku Phantom, Gouf...
Yzak - Duel, Slash Zaku Phantom, and I believe that his Gouf later on also in dark blue....

aniwaiz.... the Akatsuki's nice and the backpack is kinda like I-Justice... um, I wonder y that Akatsuki 's gold instead of rouge/pink if wat I said on the color thingy was rite... well... hope yo gives me some ID for wat I just talk about... ^^

[Curium]

Originally posted by: nhoc_kun
Asuran - Aegis, Justice, Saviour, and I-Justice... about the Gouf that he use to escape, I believe that he don't have time to use his special code to make it red.... if so I believe that we'll seen the red Gouf on that eps...


Gouf's don't have Phase Shift Armor. Only the Gundams in SEED do. It cannot change color at all (unless you acctually paint it).

Oh, also, hello and welcome.

[pash241]

From what we can gather, a gundam's phase shift color changes with the OS... Kira used the OS he had back in SEED on his original Strike, Mwu LA Fraga used the OS Kira made for him so that would explain why it sticks to these colors, Strike Rouge on the other hand... well i beleive that they originally made it pink just to make sure people would'nt confuse Strike ans Strike Rouge but you have to keep in mind it was developped by ORB instead of KIra. That episode where Rouge's color change confused a lot of people i guess... I'm in the list alsow...


and am I the only one that thinks "What the hell is Cagalli doing piloting a Gundam?" she's a politician not a pilot... I mean... what the heck is this? Cagalli getting the Akatsuki gundam... this is getting ridiculous, now it feels like every important character should get a gundam. Man if Lacus starts piloting something... ok I'm still gonna watch the show but i'll be seriously "WTF?!?!". I bet she's gonna play a useless part like in SEED with the Strike Rouge and nothing... SEED or no SEED I think she's not suited to be pilot...

[Anonyguy]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
How about we just look at some pics to get an idea about the new mobile suit till tomorrow?

Akatsuki Lineart (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/akatsuki2.jpg)
Akatsuki "Golden MS Reborn" (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/akatsuki.jpg)
Dom Trooper pilots, Strike's Booster, New MA that appeared at Heaven's Base (http://www.afterimpact.net/files/gsd_04.jpg)

Akatsuki has some interesting systems. It has a completely new OS and the armor appears to bounce beam weapons off of it. In the case of some of those poor mobile suits their weapons reflected directly back at them. I was hoping these pages would mention a bit about the new type of armor but no info about it. ^^; I agree with Curium that it's interesting that the beam sabers can be mounted like a bayonet. Thanks for sharing those pages with us.

[TeknoXI]

Originally posted by: pash241
From what we can gather, a gundam's phase shift color changes with the OS... Kira used the OS he had back in SEED on his original Strike, Mwu LA Fraga used the OS Kira made for him so that would explain why it sticks to these colors, Strike Rouge on the other hand... well i beleive that they originally made it pink just to make sure people would'nt confuse Strike ans Strike Rouge but you have to keep in mind it was developped by ORB instead of KIra. That episode where Rouge's color change confused a lot of people i guess... I'm in the list alsow...


and am I the only one that thinks "What the hell is Cagalli doing piloting a Gundam?" she's a politician not a pilot... I mean... what the heck is this? Cagalli getting the Akatsuki gundam... this is getting ridiculous, now it feels like every important character should get a gundam. Man if Lacus starts piloting something... ok I'm still gonna watch the show but i'll be seriously "WTF?!?!". I bet she's gonna play a useless part like in SEED with the Strike Rouge and nothing... SEED or no SEED I think she's not suited to be pilot...
From what I've been reading. It does seem that Lacus will be temporarly piloting Infinite Justice to deliver to Athrun. It really doesn't count...but she's in one. That'll be sweet. Even sweeter if she has her own personally OS to change IJ's colors.

[Cion]

Originally posted by: TeknoXI


Originally posted by: pash241
From what we can gather, a gundam's phase shift color changes with the OS... Kira used the OS he had back in SEED on his original Strike, Mwu LA Fraga used the OS Kira made for him so that would explain why it sticks to these colors, Strike Rouge on the other hand... well i beleive that they originally made it pink just to make sure people would'nt confuse Strike ans Strike Rouge but you have to keep in mind it was developped by ORB instead of KIra. That episode where Rouge's color change confused a lot of people i guess... I'm in the list alsow...


and am I the only one that thinks "What the hell is Cagalli doing piloting a Gundam?" she's a politician not a pilot... I mean... what the heck is this? Cagalli getting the Akatsuki gundam... this is getting ridiculous, now it feels like every important character should get a gundam. Man if Lacus starts piloting something... ok I'm still gonna watch the show but i'll be seriously "WTF?!?!". I bet she's gonna play a useless part like in SEED with the Strike Rouge and nothing... SEED or no SEED I think she's not suited to be pilot...
From what I've been reading. It does seem that Lacus will be temporarly piloting Infinite Justice to deliver to Athrun. It really doesn't count...but she's in one. That'll be sweet. Even sweeter if she has her own personally OS to change IJ's colors.

Man that would be great imagine:
-Infinite Justice, clear to launch.
-Lacus Clyne, Infinite Justice heading out

Ah i hope it happens i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Curium]

Originally posted by: pash241
and am I the only one that thinks "What the hell is Cagalli doing piloting a Gundam?" she's a politician not a pilot... I mean... what the heck is this? Cagalli getting the Akatsuki gundam... this is getting ridiculous, now it feels like every important character should get a gundam. Man if Lacus starts piloting something... ok I'm still gonna watch the show but i'll be seriously "WTF?!?!". I bet she's gonna play a useless part like in SEED with the Strike Rouge and nothing... SEED or no SEED I think she's not suited to be pilot...

She is acting like the leaders in the past. It used to be that the leaders of nations would LEAD their troops into battle rather then SEND their troops into battle. She wants to protect her country and she doesn't care about the personal risk.

[Scion]

Just watched the raw of ep 40. It closes with Cagalli vs. Shinn by the looks of things.
I'm guessing I'm not the only one who's hoping she kicks his arse, rather than losing badly and necessitating freedom to deorbit to put shinn back down a few pegs.

[cybercoin]

I dunno. I think she still is a rookie when it comes to Mobile Suits. She did kill a few guys in Seed but thats because she was in Seed. And even in the golden suit of hers...i doubt that she will kick Shinn's ass.

[pash241]

Originally posted by: Curium


Originally posted by: pash241
and am I the only one that thinks "What the hell is Cagalli doing piloting a Gundam?" she's a politician not a pilot... I mean... what the heck is this? Cagalli getting the Akatsuki gundam... this is getting ridiculous, now it feels like every important character should get a gundam. Man if Lacus starts piloting something... ok I'm still gonna watch the show but i'll be seriously "WTF?!?!". I bet she's gonna play a useless part like in SEED with the Strike Rouge and nothing... SEED or no SEED I think she's not suited to be pilot...

She is acting like the leaders in the past. It used to be that the leaders of nations would LEAD their troops into battle rather then SEND their troops into battle. She wants to protect her country and she doesn't care about the personal risk.

I agree with you that she is leading the troops but if u ask me, she's more of an image than an actual usefull pilot. After seeing ep40 I think Akatsuki is more of a symbol for ORB... even its OS has the "welcome to ORB" thing. I agree that she would rather fight till the end with her troops and episode 40 confirms it but i just cant picture her as a real pilot, she doesnt have the attitude o_0... im pretty sure she wont beat Shinn and frankly.. I dont want her to.. I'd rather have Kira or Athrun do it i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

The only way Cagalli would beat Shinn is verbally i think... like convincing him that ORB really is doing the right thing or something like that.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: pash241
im pretty sure she wont beat Shinn and frankly.. I dont want her to.. I'd rather have Kira or Athrun do it

My guess is that Kira will take out at least Destiny's right arm from low orbit as he decends before Shinn even knows he is coming.

[Dannynonsense]

imo she is an exceptional pilot and also is a excellent supreme commander unlike jona who was about to piss his pants because he didnt know how to reorganize the fleet.

anyone notice when jona calls out to cagalli she responds with a soft voice, good for him that seductive talk ended with a punch to his face

[telemari]

yeah. and she answer with soft and nice voice and meanwhile she takes out like 3 mobile suits ... that's not bad.

[KapsLocked]

Also realize, from GS, that Cagalli has a SEED also. It came out around the end of the series I believe.

[darkshadow]

Originally posted by: Curium


Originally posted by: pash241
im pretty sure she wont beat Shinn and frankly.. I dont want her to.. I'd rather have Kira or Athrun do it

My guess is that Kira will take out at least Destiny's right arm from low orbit as he decends before Shinn even knows he is coming.

MAYBE, that will show the true function of destiny's wings and deflect the laser! i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif

[Nyro]

Spoilers from Gunota Headlines Blog:

DESTINY Spoilers
Ep 42 - "Freedom and Justice" - Orb is being pushed back by ZAFT's attack. Cagalli barely manages to hold against Destiny. Right when she was about to be shot down, Strike Freedom drops from the heaven with Infinite Justice...

Ep 43 - "Voice of Counter" - Athrun, piloting the Infinite Justice, comes to aid Kira. Athrun asks Shinn, "What do you really desire?" In the middle of the battle, Djibril plots an escape with group of traitors.

Ep 44 - "Two Lacus" - In response to Cagalli's speech, PLANT counters with Meer's speech. However, Lacus finally appears saying she is the real one. While the world is in chaos, both Dullindal and Djibril make their next move.

42 Looks like its gonna rock the casbah!

[Strike Freedom]

I found this at seed-forums.com, it's from dudede's post, the link is http://www.seed-forum.com/view...p?t=16974&start=20 (http://www.seed-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16974&start=20)

Taken from Gundal Flet site:

Another confirmed piece:
http://newphoto.1t1t.com/usr/13/90281/1122268819_0.jpg (The foto somehow didn't load up fully for me...But if u click save as picture it u should able to see the full picture and these info is derived from it.)

The picture is taken from http://bbs.dmhy.net/index.php?...pic&topicid=387777 (http://bbs.dmhy.net/index.php?proc=forum:topic&topicid=387777)

Translation:

The name of Phase 45 will be "The Prelude of revolution"

In Phase 45, Destroy will appear for the 3rd time.

The settings of Dearka's Blaze Zaku Phantom will be revealed

Dom Trooper will also know the legendary "3 in 1" attack

SF and IJ penetrated the Earth's atmosphere by themselves

Neo, who lost his memory, will pilot Skyscraper (I guess it's skyscraper, but not 100% sure) and come to AA's rescue

Next month's Newtype will be a special edition for Athrun. It will have a poster of Athrun and his 4 girls.

If u want the picture it can be seen at http://forums.animesuki.com/sh...&page=67&pp=20 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=35960&page=67&pp=20)

They also have more accurate translations of the picture since it's straight from Jap to Eng

ALSO, from Soultaker7 at seed-forum.com.......

Gunota update concerning the latest spoilers (one detail or two added to those above) and the new developments on the official site:

New mechanics:
Euclid - Enormous MA manufactured by the Earth Alliance forces. Unlike the Zamza-Zah or Gells-Ghe, it lacks limbs, making it more like the Moebius in construction. Equipped with a huge beam cannon, a large number were deployed to defend Heaven's Base.

Akatsuki - An mobile suit embodying Orb's ideas, left by Uzumi Nara Athha to his daughter Cagalli. The armor of its shining, gold body has a special coating applied and its defense specifications make it their banner MS.

New characters:
Hilda Harken, Mars Simeon, Herbert Von Reinhardt - A trio of Dom Trooper pilots belonging to the Clyne faction. With the lone female, Hilda, as the heart, they pilot their heavyweight Doms skillfully, lashing out with the Trinity Attack.

- The complete name of the new comm. officer for Minerva is Abby Windsor.

ZGMF-XX09T DOM TROOPER - developed by Clyne faction's factory. Hilda, Mars, and Herbert (pilots of DOM) specialize in trinity attack (aka something similar to the Jet Stream Attack).

For those interested:
- The Next Gundam series?
Posted at Useless Plamoya-san's Diary, the next Gundam series following DESTINY is planned for Oct 2006. However, the next series will not be SEED series. The blog states the staff will be made up so it will completely go away from SEED. The same post mentions Zeta and SEED will be the bulk of future model kit releases until this new series airs.

While information posted at Useless Plamoya-san's Diary have been reliable in the past, take this news with some grain of salt.

[Strike Freedom]

If anyone knows anything else, please share...sharing is caring

[Psyke]

An amazing come back from Athrun..... one moment he's injured in bed barely able to get back, and the next moment he gets a new Gundam ready to save his girl.

[k_truong]

[quote]
Originally posted by: Nyro
Spoilers from Gunota Headlines Blog:


Ep 43 - "Voice of Counter" - Athrun, piloting the Infinite Justice, comes to aid Kira. Athrun asks Shinn, "What do you really desire?" In the middle of the battle, Djibril plots an escape with group of traitors.


hmm athrun comes to the aid of kira? is that suggesting that kira isn't doing to well against shinn.. ?

[Strike Freedom]

Originally posted by: k_truong
[quote]
Originally posted by: Nyro


hmm athrun comes to the aid of kira? is that suggesting that kira isn't doing to well against shinn.. ?

Actually, Kira is battling both Destiny and Legend. I understand SF is powerful, especially with Kira, but it would just be ridiculous if he could handle both Legend and Destiny. That is why IJ comes to SF's aid. I believe SF will actually have the upper hand initially against Destiny, element of surprise and superior pilot skills, and that is why Legend comes out to help Destiny. Then, IJ comes to assist Kira who is then the underdog in order to equal out the battle field. That is my take on what will happen i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

I dont know if someone posted this but check it out:

PHASE 41 - Refrain
Parted with Dullindal's ideal and was shot down by his pursuers, Athrun was saved by ArchAngel. In the midst of humility and pain, he looked back in the past to find the mastermind of all this... On the other hand, Kira flew again because Lacus was in danger. Desperatly, he asked Athrun what the future will be like as the war escalates.

PHASE 42 - Freedom and Justice
The Orb Force was completely suppressed by ZAFT's attack. Cagalli's Akatsuki went up against Shinn and Destiny, who launched on the reason of "I'll strike at Orb myself". But danger loomed in the face of difference in strength. Just when she was about to be shot down, S-Freedom appeared in the sky, as well as I-Justice...

PHASE 43 - Voice of Counterstrike
Determined, Athrun piloted I-Justce, and headed for Kira's S-Freedom, which is engaging Destiny and Legend. Athrun asked Shinn "What exactly is your true wish?" However, in the middle of the battle, Djibril planned to escape...

PHASE 44 - Two Lacus's
Posing as Head of Orb, Cagalli held a press conference on the previous battles, and the PLANT side countered with Meer's statements. However, Lacus, who finally made her appearance and posed as the real thing, placed the world into a state of confusion. Dullindal, as well as Djibril, continued to act while holding their own thoughts.

From:
http://seedgenesis.net/index.php?action=spoilerama

[pash241]

Jesus... I'm already drooling... cant wait for the next episodes... but if i got this right... means not much will happen in ep41 right?

[Curium]

Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
PHASE 41 - Refrain
Parted with Dullindal's ideal and was shot down by his pursuers, Athrun was saved by ArchAngel. In the midst of humility and pain, he looked back in the past to find the mastermind of all this... On the other hand, Kira flew again because Lacus was in danger. Desperatly, he asked Athrun what the future will be like as the war escalates.


SOMEBODY HAS TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NomoZ]

Originally posted by: Strike Freedom
- The Next Gundam series?
Posted at Useless Plamoya-san's Diary, the next Gundam series following DESTINY is planned for Oct 2006. However, the next series will not be SEED series. The blog states the staff will be made up so it will completely go away from SEED. The same post mentions Zeta and SEED will be the bulk of future model kit releases until this new series airs.

I hope this is true, I don't think i'll want anymore SEED after Destiny. I also hope that with by new staff they mean writers and animators. Oh and there better only be 2-3 Gundams tops in the new series, there are too many in the SEED/Destiny series they aren't really special anymore.

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

Another recap, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

* sob * Sorry * sob * * sob * * sob * OMG * sob * it cant * sob * be * sob * happening * sob * * sob * * sob *

Oh goddddddd.

* so sorry *

[Illrenmazou]

- The Next Gundam series?
Posted at Useless Plamoya-san's Diary, the next Gundam series following DESTINY is planned for Oct 2006. However, the next series will not be SEED series. The blog states the staff will be made up so it will completely go away from SEED. The same post mentions Zeta and SEED will be the bulk of future model kit releases until this new series airs.

I do hope that's true. Fukuda needs to concentrate on his next Cyber Formula series, Okawara needs retirement, Hirai needs to make different faces.

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

I heard the Next Series would be called Gundam Seed legendary, maybe someone got it wrong.

[pash241]

I doubt that... SEED is over after this one... but I think a little OAV after GSD would still be nice... just to explain what they're doing after the serie... who know... it would probably end up with wedding cagalli and athrun... hoping Kira wont interupt for fun with Strike-Freedom. Hmm well we just have to wait an see i guess...

jesus.. october 2006... that's far... I can't wait

[NomoZ]

The only way I'd like another SEED series is if they killed everyone off at the end of Destiny and there was a completely new cast, but with Fukada that won't happen...I miss Tomino...

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

I liked GS and GSD, but Destiny lately has been weird. I hope there is a third SEED, the best ANIME-TRILOGY-OF-ALL-TIMES, Star Wars in ANIME. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

At least give me Athrun and Kiras Wedding, with their respective Brides of course. But if they cant give me that im going crazy.

1 fuking kiss in GS and 1 fuking kiss more in GSD, both Athrun and Cagalli's. i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif

What about Lacus x Kira?.

[pash241]

Dont jump off the window right away if you don't see any wedding... there might be an OAV... ok i've said it before but I kinda hope there will be more explanation as what actually happens after the big fight... In Wing i was pissed off to see the end where Relena rips the envelope... I mean what kind of an ending is that?!?! and in SEED, well you don't know much about what happens after.

I guess popular complains made the producers decide on making an OAV but it was only 5 minutes... All i really hope for is we actually know how the thing ends and not just some " cease fire" treaty at the last 40 seconds of the last episode. That would piss me off but it's probably something like that that's going to happen... that's why I'm wishing for a GSD OAV (and longer than 5min plz god) i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

*jesus my spelling is bad.. sry*

[-GunSlinger-]

Originally posted by: Curium


Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
PHASE 41 - Refrain
Parted with Dullindal's ideal and was shot down by his pursuers, Athrun was saved by ArchAngel. In the midst of humility and pain, he looked back in the past to find the mastermind of all this... On the other hand, Kira flew again because Lacus was in danger. Desperatly, he asked Athrun what the future will be like as the war escalates.


SOMEBODY HAS TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sure hope it's cagalli

[Curium]

Originally posted by: -GunSlinger-


Originally posted by: Curium


Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
PHASE 41 - Refrain
Parted with Dullindal's ideal and was shot down by his pursuers, Athrun was saved by ArchAngel. In the midst of humility and pain, he looked back in the past to find the mastermind of all this... On the other hand, Kira flew again because Lacus was in danger. Desperatly, he asked Athrun what the future will be like as the war escalates.


SOMEBODY HAS TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sure hope it's cagalli

I was referring to them placeing a recap episode here. I was thinking more along the lines of the director or the writers.

[Astronopolis]

the one thing that frustrates me to no end is when people speculate the origins of akatsuki, and how it came from either freedom or justice, bah! it is clearly the same as strike, plus gold paint and some parts here and there, a kind of "body kit" if you will. just thought id get that off my chest heh

[Mite Gai]

Looks like a funnelless gold Strike-Freedom if u ask me.

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

Originally posted by: -GunSlinger-


Originally posted by: Curium


Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
PHASE 41 - Refrain
Parted with Dullindal's ideal and was shot down by his pursuers, Athrun was saved by ArchAngel. In the midst of humility and pain, he looked back in the past to find the mastermind of all this... On the other hand, Kira flew again because Lacus was in danger. Desperatly, he asked Athrun what the future will be like as the war escalates.


SOMEBODY HAS TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sure hope it's cagalli

We were referring to Fukuda and the GSD Staff, after Phase 50 and OAV, because of the recap.

But if someone has to die in Phase 41, Shinn MUST!!!

[cybercoin]

Wingdam anyone? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

???

EDIT: I dont remember being told, anyway im not doing it again.

I tried to say,

@cybercoin
What do u mean?

I told you not to reply like this. Next time, you're warned.

GotWoot Moderator

[Barumonk]

I doubt there would be an OAV, if they did make one, (ironically) it would probably just be tacked onto the movie summary version, which would be seen as one giant recap to anyone who bought/downloaded the movies for the ending anyway. Either that or they will throw the ending on the DVD release, to make you pay to see the end so they can make even more money.

[~strike-freedom~]

Here are the spoilers for epi 41 - 44.... it seems that next ep will be a recap!!!!!!!!!!!

PHASE 41 - Refrain
Parted with Dullindal's ideal and was shot down by his pursuers, Athrun was saved by ArchAngel. In the midst of humility and pain, he looked back in the past to find the mastermind of all this... On the other hand, Kira flew again because Lacus was in danger. Desperatly, he asked Athrun what the future will be like as the war escalates.

PHASE 42 - Freedom and Justice
The Orb Force was completely suppressed by ZAFT's attack. Cagalli's Akatsuki went up against Shinn and Destiny, who launched on the reason of "I'll strike at Orb myself". But danger loomed in the face of difference in strength. Just when she was about to be shot down, S-Freedom appeared in the sky, as well as I-Justice...

PHASE 43 - Voice of Counterstrike
Determined, Athrun piloted I-Justce, and headed for Kira's S-Freedom, which is engaging Destiny and Legend. Athrun asked Shinn "What exactly is your true wish?" However, in the middle of the battle, Djibril planned to escape...

PHASE 44 - Two Lacus's
Posing as Head of Orb, Cagalli held a press conference on the previous battles, and the PLANT side countered with Meer's statements. However, Lacus, who finally made her appearance and posed as the real thing, placed the world into a state of confusion. Dullindal, as well as Djibril, continued to act while holding their own thoughts.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: ~strike-freedom~
Here are the spoilers for epi 41 - 44.... it seems that next ep will be a recap!!!!!!!!!!!


I repeat:



Originally posted by: Curium
SOMEBODY HAS TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guardian_2000]

DESTINY Spoilers
Ep 42 - "Freedom and Justice" - Orb is being pushed back by ZAFT's attack. Cagalli barely manages to hold against Destiny. Right when she was about to be shot down, Strike Freedom drops from the heaven with Infinite Justice...

Ep 43 - "Voice of Counter" - Athrun, piloting the Infinite Justice, comes to aid Kira. Athrun asks Shinn, "What do you really desire?" In the middle of the battle, Djibril plots an escape with group of traitors.

Ep 44 - "Two Lacus" - In response to Cagalli's speech, PLANT counters with Meer's speech. However, Lacus finally appears saying she is the real one. While the world is in chaos, both Dullindal and Djibril make their next move.

basically the same as before just alil different on the translation. Thanks Gunota.

[pash241]

Am I the only one who can't wait to see Shinn's face when Strike-Freedom drops from orbit and saves Cagalli? hehe "omfg hax.. how he do that?" then major piss off when Athrun jumps in I-Justice. He might be de-promoted? o_0 that would be funny.

On a more serious note though... I really want to know if Cagalli will try to convince Shinn verbally (since we all know she's gonna most likely get owned) I guess the only way Cagalli could win against him in the final battle is showing him that he was wrong... damn talking about it only makes me want to see it...

and does anyone think Dullindal will like... declare total mass murder of any who opose him? like play Patrick Zala style and eliminate everyone? o_0 ok many crazy ideas...

[Jurojin]

I want to see that very much. And this :



omfg hax

Funniest damn thing I've seen today.

I wonder if they'll parody it like that, if they continue the parodies....


Of course, with Athrun unable to even get out of bed, how is he going to meet up with IJ from space? O.o That would be some major haxx0rs there.

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

Lacus will pilot I-Justice to Athrun, while Kira is saving Cagalli.

Still I wonder how he could get so healthy all of a sudden and be able to pilot I-Justice.

[Mite Gai]

Because Cagalli's in danger, simple as that, even if he is still in pain, he is not going to watch her die if he can do something about it.

[Death13a]

in seed athrun was shot and still piloted. So it wouldn't be suprise if he even at bad condition will pilot I- Justice

[pash241]

We have all seen Athrun pilot his gundam right after beeing shot... twice... Kira survived a nuclear explosion and piloted strike rouge shortly after... besides... I think we all agree there's No way that I-Justice would perform l33t without Athrun piloting it.

Besides like Mite Gai said. There's no way Athrun will stand still when Cagalli is in danger... although Kira will already have saved her... .... .... ok well anyways Athrun will pilot I-Justice even if he has to crawl to it (that would be funny).

What i'm curious about is what did they do to I-Justice to improve it much... I know S-Freedom has the Dragoon system but can someone tell me what I-Justice has that's really amazing... (or is it just appearing in the show for the sakes of appearances?)

[Curium]

Originally posted by: pash241
We have all seen Athrun pilot his gundam right after beeing shot... twice... Kira survived a nuclear explosion and piloted strike rouge shortly after... besides... I think we all agree there's No way that I-Justice would perform l33t without Athrun piloting it.


I only remember him being shot once, but that isn't my point. When did Kira survive a Nuclear explosion to pilot Rouge shortly after? If you are talking about after his loss to Impulse then you are mistaken. There was no nuclear level explosion there. The only nuke that Kira has been near was the destruction of GENESIS.

Besides, there is a differance between being shot in the shoulder and being completely unable to move.

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: pash241
We have all seen Athrun pilot his gundam right after beeing shot... twice... Kira survived a nuclear explosion and piloted strike rouge shortly after... besides... I think we all agree there's No way that I-Justice would perform l33t without Athrun piloting it.

Besides like Mite Gai said. There's no way Athrun will stand still when Cagalli is in danger... although Kira will already have saved her... .... .... ok well anyways Athrun will pilot I-Justice even if he has to crawl to it (that would be funny).

What i'm curious about is what did they do to I-Justice to improve it much... I know S-Freedom has the Dragoon system but can someone tell me what I-Justice has that's really amazing... (or is it just appearing in the show for the sakes of appearances?)

As has been said before me, Kira never survived no Nuclear explosion. He survived a fiery inferno (from Aegis), a near miss from a Super Gamma Ray Laser Cannon (Genesis), and the bottom half of his mobile suit being cut out from under him, and the simultaneous blast wave from a Positron Cannon (Minerva), but never no nuclear explosion. He was only in the type of shape Athrun is currently in after the Aegis incident, and he still got back on his feet fairly quickly. That said, I dont know how Athrun's gonna pull it off. Maybe with drugs... wmahahahahahah.

Infinite Justice is going to be better than Justice in many ways. Way one, is that its going to have beam shields. Being able to defend more than 50% of your suit at once is a major upgrade from Justice. Way two, is the new Subflight device. Its got beam edges like Gaia, and along with autonomous flight, thats a mobile wing of death, suplemented by whatever else is mounted on it. Way 3, is the insane number of melee weapons mounted on it. It has beam edges on its legs, for kicking action! Beam boomerangs, sabers, and cannons, Oh my!

Also, its gonna be fast. How fast?

Too damn fast.

[pash241]

Yea... I kinda realise now... what i meant in my last post was the explosion when impulse destroyed freedom. I based my thoughts on the fact that when Justice blew up it was a nuke back in SEED do destroy Genesis. But come to think of it Freedom only ejected the nuclear reactor and the blast was'nt that big... ok my bad I admit it but it's still a fact that those two survived a lot shot/explosions and piloted shortly after... Kira flew freedom less then a week after nearly beeing blown up in Strike.

(and Athrun... what i meant when i said athrun was shot twice was that he had his arm disabled twice... sorry.. my bad again ^_^' after Aegis blew up and when his father shot him... both times he went to pilot less than 2 days after...

But to get back on the real subject i guess... Athrun will most likely pilot I-Justice dispite his current status.. and he still has a whole flashback episode to heal i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

sorry again for the confusion... I was lost myself


So basically... new sub flight thing, faster and new reactor thing on I-Justice... can't wait. thnx MeroTZ

[Guardian_2000]

Woot Mwu is back in the saddle of a mobile suit. And Lacus is definately piloting IJ. Strike Freedom is very romantically guiding the IJ down to earth holding its hand during reentry. Looks like the Dom's are also coming down via pod drop to help in the battle on Earth. If we're going to space its gonna be really short.

Oh and from the looks of things. Shinn is a mighty bit pissed to see Strike Freedom save the day.

[TeknoXI]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Woot Mwu is back in the saddle of a mobile suit. And Lacus is definately piloting IJ. Strike Freedom is very romantically guiding the IJ down to earth holding its hand during reentry. Looks like the Dom's are also coming down via pod drop to help in the battle on Earth. If we're going to space its gonna be really short.

Oh and from the looks of things. Shinn is a mighty bit pissed to see Strike Freedom save the day.
Of course. Shinn uses his anger to envoke SEED mode. I do think that if SF and IJ do hold hand on reentry, that would be sweet. I loved how they were like "Give me your hand" during GS when escaping to space. Totally sweetness, although it wasn't the same pilots.

I believe I read somewhere that Mwu would be in the Skygrasper. Too bad they can't mimic Impulse and have a Skygrasper transform into a MS. That would be hilarious. Give Luna a run for her money!

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

Hey, Kira did survive a Nuclear explosion or something close to it when he was defeated by Shinn, DOnt tell me that Gigantic explosion was due to Minerva's Tanhauser, that thing doesnt create such a explosion, and Freedom Blowing up does, but Kira Ejected the upper half of Freedom, im guessing, so the explosion wouldnt do so much damage.

Minerva's Tanahuser creates and explosion in Archangel, only where the Positron Cannon hit, a small part of Archangel, the rest goes through AA.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
Hey, Kira did survive a Nuclear explosion or something close to it when he was defeated by Shinn, DOnt tell me that Gigantic explosion was due to Minerva's Tanhauser, that thing doesnt create such a explosion, and Freedom Blowing up does, but Kira Ejected the upper half of Freedom, im guessing, so the explosion wouldnt do so much damage.

Minerva's Tanahuser creates and explosion in Archangel, only where the Positron Cannon hit, a small part of Archangel, the rest goes through AA.

Wrong. We have already discussed this. A Positron Cannon is an anti-matter weapon. When it hit the Archangel it also hit the surface of the ocean. That is what caused the massive explosion. A positron is the antiparticle of the electron. It is antimatter, has an electric charge of +1, a spin of 1/2, and the same mass as an electron. When a positron annihilates with an electron, their mass is converted into energy in the form of two gamma ray photons. (See electron-positron annihilation) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron) - From Wikipedia. Also about 2 minutes into episode 35 it clearly showed Kira hit the "EMERGENCY: NUCLEAR REACTOR CUT OFF". FREEDOM NEVER CAUSED A NUCLEAR EXPLOSION!