Naruto's arsenal

[kooshi]

If Naruto were to have another spell, what would it be?

For me, I'd say probably the Shadow Imitation technique. He can have some of his shadow replications cast it, catch the enemy, then use Rasengan.

Btw, it is proven that shadow replications can use ninjutsu. You can see Kakashi's shadow replication use the Sharingan and the shark missile technique when he just arrived at the first fight with Itachi and Kisame.

[chambers]

well if thats the case then the mind transfer technique would OWN everybody, i mean he could just have a shadow replication take over someoes body then cut them to pieces. i personally would like to see one of the main characters adopt a weapon of some sorts preferebly a sword.

[Arog]

a sword? heh give that to sakura she is so useless she could usethat

[Scorpio V1.2]

no dont give sakura a sword, she'd only hold it the wrong way and kill her self...on second thought, yeah give sakura a sword

[Lucian5000]

At the moment, anything involving any seals seems to be out of the question for Naruto. Whatever it is, it'll probably involve chakra control and power, perhaps focusing chakra through a weapon to extend it's range (Like in the fight with Kisame, when he got cut)

[wirm]

I don't have a copy of the episode where Kakashi copies Kisame's water jutsu (because it kept crashing) but wasn't it the real Kakashi who did the copying? I remember that the one standing behind Itachi was a water clone.


BTW, I'm not arguing that kage bunshin can't use ninjutsu. I'm certain it can (the third used his sealing technique with his 2). It's part of the reason why kage bunshin is considered a high level jutsu.




As for Naruto, I think he'd be much better off if he trained in some taijutsu. What good are his kage bunshins if they all get their butts kicked by anybody (who's decent).

[PSJ]

ok lets listen to common sense for a while. a shadow replication is an actual body with half of real kakashis chakra. real body + real chakra = able to use nin, gen and taijutsu. that the shadow replications advantage over any other type of bunshin.

[ZakuHan]

Yeah, kage bunshins can use jutsu but it probably takes a mass amount of concentration and skill to be able to do it right. Naruto has mostly only used his for various support purposes (A second hand for Rasengan, boosters fighting Gaara, etc), and has done a good job with that. I'm sure Kakashi is capable of making his bunshins use jutsus.

If you give Sakura a sword, she will probably only use it to maim her left arm and leg, so she can vow to be as determined as Lee to recover and be strong. She cut her hair, making that vow, and it didn't seem to work, so maybe a maiming will do.

As for Naruto's arsenal, I'd say something that might help him with his taijutsu since it's far below average. Maybe a way to focus his chakra to his fist? Something like Tsunade and Kabuto used but not a "scalpel", more of something to add a big chakra burst to his punches when they land.

[chambers]

well technically you dont need a hand to from rasengen (sp) so i suppose given absolute mastery over the move he could form it anywhere externaly on his body, wich would make it almost impossible for him to be beaten by a taijitsu user, as even defending would hurt the same as being hit.

[Board of Command]

don't post spoilers and play them off as if they're not. you've been warned.

[ZakuHan]

It's common sense, BoC, not a spoiler. All Rasengan does is concentrate your chakra at a certain point and spin it. You don't need to do it on your hand. You could kick someone with it if you were good enough. The hand is just the first obvious choice to put it to use.

[Assassin]

i think the shadow bind would be a pretty kool technique to have with the kage bunshin.

@chambers: the mind control is kool, but if ur mind is in the person's body and u slash them to bits wouldn't u die as well? or atleast be dammaged mentally.

also, in the intro u can see sasuke using a sword while fighitng what seem like sound nins (its him and sakura fighting). i dunno if thats just by chance or if he actually does start using a weapon. still it looks pretty kool

[chambers]

yeah but assasin think about it, if you can physically hurt a kage bunshin and not cause any damage to naruto, then you can certainly use control mind and hack to pieces and your effectivly not hitting your self, you rjust hitting a replication your yourself!

[ZakuHan]

They probably added the sword thing in the intro for looks, doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna happen.

[Assassin]

ya ur rite...althoug it'd be kool if it did


chambers: ya but thats cuz its a seperate body....but they all share the chakra (its split up between them) so they could also be sharing a mind. like not telepathically linked or anyhitng, but like there could be some subconsious part of naruto's brain tahts linked to them all.

anyway theres no way to be sure of anyhting unless that actually happens and naruto suddenly falls to the floor and goes into a coma i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[wirm]

I don't think kage bunshins share a mind or have any kind of telepathic link. However, they probably are all thinking the exact same thing at the moment of creation. So they should kind of know what each of their buddies will do.

If you'll recall in episode 4 or 5, Naruto grabbed Kakashi and was going to attack when Kakashi pulled a kawarimi. The Narutos all fought each other because they thought Kakashi did henge. This shows that the bunshins don't have a telepathic link, or they would have known right away that Kakashi was hiding somewhere else.





BTW, does anybody else think that rasengan seems like a miniaturized and condensed version of kaiten? I bet Neji could learn rasengan really quickly.

[SilentSnake]

hehe neji could probably need just to be told how to do it and would performed it without training i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

like "neji, spin around chakra on ur palm, spin it this way so it would go in various direction thus making a ball of chakra, maintain it, hella concentrate the power and concetrate urself, u see this ball of chakra ??? now change sakura into dust" "yes... very good" i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[chambers]

well surley if thats true if he coudl learn kibas attack that would be ultimate a body sized rasengan?!

[Board of Command]

What the hell? How's that a spoiler? I don't even read the manga, I'm just guessing... How do you know I'm "passing them off like they're not"? I'm not here to spoil anything.

[wirm]

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[Board of Command]

When I replied I didn't realize there were already a lot of posts under my last one. Check my last post, it was edited by a mod.

[Mut]

there was a slight confusion. ignore it and continue on with the original discussion.

[ZakuHan]

I don't believe Neji would have as easy a time as you'd think with Rasengan. Kaiten throws Chakra out of his body and he spins. He doesn't concentrate it to one point and rotate / contain it in a ball. Completely different style of technique.

[wirm]

In any case, Neji does have experience with manipulating his chakra. His entire hand to hand combat style is based on it (to some extent).

He's got more experience with it than Naruto did.



Obviously he wouldn't be able to pick it up in a flash, but Naruto should be careful about showing it off too much i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Also, maybe Naruto can now take the time to learn Chidori. It should be a bit easier than Rasengan

[Board of Command]

No point in learning chidori when rasengan is way better. Plus, chidori drains way more chakra than rasengan, and without the sharingan it's pretty useless for Naruto to use it.

[chambers]

yeah reguardless of argueing wich is stronger, we know for a fact that chidori works in combination with sharingan.

[ZakuHan]

Funny thing about Rasengan .. Jiraiya says to focus ALL of your Chakra into that ball, but it seems to be able to be used multiple times. I agree we shouldn't get into the Chidori vs Rasengan debate again, they both balance eachother out with pros and cons.

However, I don't think Sasuke or Naruto would be able to easily learn the other's move. In the case of Chidori, they went into (too much) detail about how high-speed body movement is key to making it work like it should.. The Chakra part is just forcing it all into your hand so you can cut through anything using the fast body movement. Naruto does have very fast speed with Kyuubi chakra, but I think it'd be too much for him to try and focus that Chakra AND the chakra in his hand at the same time to perform the move.

For Rasengan, as mentioned above, it requires an intense amount of concentration, and acquiring the ability to focus all of your chakra into that rotating ball. Sasuke could pick up the concentration and control I'm sure, but he probably would not be able to use the Sharingan with it, which would capsize his power.

[FrogHermit]

maybe he could like get the gates and then use the shadow replications to open the gates and kick but

[animefreak]

I think Rasengan is a waste of time, forming the form could take 15 sec giving your opponent a chance for a wide open attack. Chidori on the hand could form the seal and run as the time to dodge your opponent attack and attack him from beyond with it, because of it fast speed.

[ZakuHan]

It doesn't take 15 seconds.. It only looks that way to us cause they have to animate it and all that. I'm sure the prep time for both is about the same, Chidori with its need for seals and Rasengan with its need for concentration.

[kooshi]

Yeah, I think people keep forgetting about how the timing in anime/manga is always off just to add more drama. Example: do you really think Kabuto would sit on his ass for like 30 seconds just to let Naruto pull off his Rasengan? Obviously not. In reality, Naruto would have formed the Rasengan in like 3 seconds and quickly shove it to Kabuto's stomach, all in approximately 5 seconds (these are just estimations).

Anyways, after thinking it over, wouldn't it be cool if Naruto could make some sort of jutsu that allowed him to go berserk, like what he did against Haku and Orochimaru? Hehe, Gaara is capable of making himself go to sleep, so maybe Naruto can make a jutsu that would make him extremely mad, lol.

[jing]

Originally posted by: kooshi
Yeah, I think people keep forgetting about how the timing in anime/manga is always off just to add more drama. Example: do you really think Kabuto would sit on his ass for like 30 seconds just to let Naruto pull off his Rasengan? Obviously not. In reality, Naruto would have formed the Rasengan in like 3 seconds and quickly shove it to Kabuto's stomach, all in approximately 5 seconds (these are just estimations).

Anyways, after thinking it over, wouldn't it be cool if Naruto could make some sort of jutsu that allowed him to go berserk, like what he did against Haku and Orochimaru? Hehe, Gaara is capable of making himself go to sleep, so maybe Naruto can make a jutsu that would make him extremely mad, lol.

yea its called stupid fox lend me your chakra.

[deadlydreamx]

well it does look like rasengan takes a while to come up because in the episode 104 while naruto is doin his lil tornado one of the rain nins looks at naruto and asks what the hell he's doin

[miaka]

i don't really think rasengan takes that long to do it..... and can't really believe the filler saga ones.. cause they don't even stick to charater's personality

[CUE]

Originally posted by: kooshi
Yeah, I think people keep forgetting about how the timing in anime/manga is always off just to add more drama. Example: do you really think Kabuto would sit on his ass for like 30 seconds just to let Naruto pull off his Rasengan? Obviously not. In reality, Naruto would have formed the Rasengan in like 3 seconds and quickly shove it to Kabuto's stomach, all in approximately 5 seconds (these are just estimations).

Anyways, after thinking it over, wouldn't it be cool if Naruto could make some sort of jutsu that allowed him to go berserk, like what he did against Haku and Orochimaru? Hehe, Gaara is capable of making himself go to sleep, so maybe Naruto can make a jutsu that would make him extremely mad, lol.

...you forget that naruto, in that part, was fucking talking to kabuto. He was having some stupid ass conversation about him not giving up or being hokage or something, so no, it didn't happen in 5 seconds.

[animefreak]

i don't know if anyone post this yet but which is stronger? rasengan or chidori.... rasengan vs chidori?

[kAi]

see the speed jiraiya can do it.
he can do it almost instantaneously but he was just slowing the speed down so that naruto could learn the actual technique and/or see the technique in action.
it wouldnt be good for naruto to learn to see the move done in a flash.
narutos speed for the rasengan maybe slow. but it can only improve with time.
but i dont think it is overly slow. on the other hand i think the rasengan jutsu time is quicker than the chidori, but i doubt it is by much.
and naruto and sasuke bringing these techniques up is probably about the same from what i can tell.

i dont think you can say which one is stronger there both different techniques too different.
coz if they both connect with full force and the intent to kill they are both fatal moves.

[kAi]

EDIT: WHOOPS i press quote instead of edit.

[kooshi]

Originally posted by: jing


Originally posted by: kooshi
Yeah, I think people keep forgetting about how the timing in anime/manga is always off just to add more drama. Example: do you really think Kabuto would sit on his ass for like 30 seconds just to let Naruto pull off his Rasengan? Obviously not. In reality, Naruto would have formed the Rasengan in like 3 seconds and quickly shove it to Kabuto's stomach, all in approximately 5 seconds (these are just estimations).

Anyways, after thinking it over, wouldn't it be cool if Naruto could make some sort of jutsu that allowed him to go berserk, like what he did against Haku and Orochimaru? Hehe, Gaara is capable of making himself go to sleep, so maybe Naruto can make a jutsu that would make him extremely mad, lol.

yea its called stupid fox lend me your chakra.

The thing is, I think there is a power difference between using Kyubi's chakra and having the chakra take over him. I was talking about when Naruto loses control over himself (you can see the red eyes).

[Stoopider]

Shoot bolts of lightning from his eyes, spit fire from his mouth, and thunders from his arse.

[kooshi]

Originally posted by: Stoopider
Shoot bolts of lightning from his eyes, spit fire from his mouth, and thunders from his arse.

Hmm, got yourself a WC3 game right there, lol.
Guess I'll just shut up about this anyways. Seems like people won't listen to my reasoning.

[Board of Command]

The difference between chidori and rasengan is not their power difference, but their efficiency. Sasuke can only use 2 chodoris in one day, any more will kill him. Naruto can use rasengan over and over and over...and over without any damage to his body.

Also, rasengan doesn't require any seals so it's moch more versatile.
e.g. You got your hands tired up behind you, but you can still use rasengan to cut the rope and free yourself. You can't do that with chidori.
You can use rasengan for a lot of things without worrying about anything, but you can't do that for chidori since it takes a huge toll on your body.

[jing]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
The difference between chidori and rasengan is not their power difference, but their efficiency. Sasuke can only use 2 chodoris in one day, any more will kill him. Naruto can use rasengan over and over and over...and over without any damage to his body.

Also, rasengan doesn't require any seals so it's moch more versatile.
e.g. You got your hands tired up behind you, but you can still use rasengan to cut the rope and free yourself. You can't do that with chidori.
You can use rasengan for a lot of things without worrying about anything, but you can't do that for chidori since it takes a huge toll on your body.

you're wrong, naruto's hand was burned.

[Arog]

rasengan is also much more powerful than chidori (from what i think anyways) cuz there are only 3 ppl who can do it, naruto, jiraiya and the fourth. or maybe chidori is only sasuke and kakashi? hmm but rasengan seems more powerful and i guess its also more versatile as seen in episode 104...

[kooshi]

This MIGHT be a weakness for Chidori, but is the Sharingan required? I don't really think so since I think the Sharingan just helps make the target easier to connect with, not to mention dodge some attacks (Sasuke vs Gaara).

[Arog]

i dont think sharingan is required for anything except the huge advantage to see htrough the attack

[Board of Command]

Originally posted by: jing


Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
The difference between chidori and rasengan is not their power difference, but their efficiency. Sasuke can only use 2 chodoris in one day, any more will kill him. Naruto can use rasengan over and over and over...and over without any damage to his body.

Also, rasengan doesn't require any seals so it's moch more versatile.
e.g. You got your hands tired up behind you, but you can still use rasengan to cut the rope and free yourself. You can't do that with chidori.
You can use rasengan for a lot of things without worrying about anything, but you can't do that for chidori since it takes a huge toll on your body.

you're wrong, naruto's hand was burned.
I know someone would bring up the hand thing...that doesn't count.

[ZakuHan]

The difference between chidori and rasengan is not their power difference, but their efficiency. Sasuke can only use 2 chodoris in one day, any more will kill him. Naruto can use rasengan over and over and over...and over without any damage to his body.

Except that Sasuke used Chidori I believe 4 times against Gaara that one day, and he lived (though he did have a chance to die on the 4th use, he still used it 3 times without the seal).



This MIGHT be a weakness for Chidori, but is the Sharingan required? I don't really think so since I think the Sharingan just helps make the target easier to connect with, not to mention dodge some attacks (Sasuke vs Gaara).

Yes, Sharingan is required to use the Chidori, as stated by Kakashi in one of the training flashbacks. Sasuke has to be able to predict the movement of his target, or else he cannot dodge any attack they might throw at him, since he puts all his power into running and straight-thrusting (as explained by Gai, and an example given by Rock Lee).



I know someone would bring up the hand thing...that doesn't count.

It quite counts. Without Kyuubi's regenerative powers, Naruto could burn his hands off using the technique too much. Remember, he's rotating a very condensed mass of air on his hand, you can't do that without taking some kind of damage after a while, even if it's contained.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: ZakuHan
Except that Sasuke used Chidori I believe 4 times against Gaara that one day, and he lived (though he did have a chance to die on the 4th use, he still used it 3 times without the seal).
wrong, sasuke used it only three times. he used the curse seal on this third attempt.

[miaka]

hmm yeah he used cursed seal..

i believe kakashi said it would be real bad for him to do more than 2 expecailly cause of the cursed seal...... not sure if he said he would die...

[ZakuHan]

Lesse.. He used it the initial time charging off the wall, then again so he could cut his arm out of the sand shell.. Then once in an attempt to kill Gaara in the woods (which missed and he merely split the sand arm down the middle, which regenerated), then he did a last-ditch one involving the cursed seal which completely cut off said sand arm (just watched that epsisode too, coincidentally).

I know some people debate whether he actually used the Chidori getting his arm free, but if you watch, while his arm is inside the shell and his hand is on Gaara, he clearly is not using it.. Until you see him futiley trying to pull his arm out then finally starts the Chidori up again to cut it out.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: ZakuHan
Lesse.. He used it the initial time charging off the wall, then again so he could cut his arm out of the sand shell.. Then once in an attempt to kill Gaara in the woods (which missed and he merely split the sand arm down the middle, which regenerated), then he did a last-ditch one involving the cursed seal which completely cut off said sand arm (just watched that epsisode too, coincidentally).

I know some people debate whether he actually used the Chidori getting his arm free, but if you watch, while his arm is inside the shell and his hand is on Gaara, he clearly is not using it.. Until you see him futiley trying to pull his arm out then finally starts the Chidori up again to cut it out.
that's a continuation of the first chidori. after the initial strike, the chidori gradually dies down but sasuke fired it up again to pull it out. it counts as one.

the entire point of kakashi telling sasuke that he shouldn't use chidori three times and sasuke needing to use the curse seal for the final chidori is good enough support to tell us that sasuke used chidori 3 times.

[ZakuHan]

that's a continuation of the first chidori. after the initial strike, the chidori gradually dies down but sasuke fired it up again to pull it out. it counts as one.

the entire point of kakashi telling sasuke that he shouldn't use chidori three times and sasuke needing to use the curse seal for the final chidori is good enough support to tell us that sasuke used chidori 3 times.

I can see where you'd get that, but if you recall while he's fighting in the woods there's atleast one point you can watch Chidori die down as you describe it. This isn't something we see though in the arena. He cuts through the sand shield, and it stops. I don't know how long it took for Gaara to flip out over the wound and get over the initial shock, but he didn't try to pull his arm out again until after that.

If he did have the Chidori still running (if not visible) during all that time, I think it's safe to say he used up enough Chakra to have used it twice anyway.

[wirm]

Once again, this is a timing issue. All that mental anguish could have happened in an instant. Plus, Sasuke's hand was inside the shield (possibly even inside Gaara), so we can't tell if the chidori completely died down. In any case, if Kakashi said it was two times max (safely), and Sasuke was debating whether or not to use it the third time, I think it's safe to say that he used it three times, with the seal on the last.




As for the old "you have to have the sharingan to use chidori", I'm pretty sure that the sharingan is there to read movement and adjust one's aim. You can still use chidori without sharingan, but since it's just a straight thrust, you'll probably:

1) Miss
2) Get hit with a counter-attack

[Board of Command]

That episode was called "Over the limit". Sasuke used chidori 3 times, not 4, and the third one would have killed him if it wasn't for the cursed seal. For the third chidori, he summons some chakra, then it dies down, then he uses the cursed seal to summon more chakra and does chidori.

Still, 3 chidoris is nothing compared to how many times Naruto can use rasengan in one day.

[ZakuHan]

Once again, this is a timing issue. All that mental anguish could have happened in an instant. Plus, Sasuke's hand was inside the shield (possibly even inside Gaara), so we can't tell if the chidori completely died down. In any case, if Kakashi said it was two times max (safely), and Sasuke was debating whether or not to use it the third time, I think it's safe to say that he used it three times, with the seal on the last.

You get a shot of Sasuke's hand on Gaara's shoulder, where he wounded him. There's clearly no chirping or sparkling Chakra anywhere.

[kooshi]

Maybe Sasuke just did a mini Chidori to get himself out. That shouldn't waste too much chakra to limit him to only 1 Chidori.

[Board of Command]

You can't do chidori with one hand since it requires a 2-hand seal.

[Deblas]

I've never seen a hand seal to do the chidori or maybe I just don't remember

[wirm]

Yes, there are hand seals. The only time hand seals were not shown was when Sasuke tried to hit Itachi. Even then, it is assumed that he was doing the seals, but we just couldn't see it.

[miaka]

yea.. i m sure there were hand seals... just that sometimes i think they don't show it ...

BTW.. rather than arsenal.. i think naruto need some speed... like rock lee..

[KreShar]

About the sword thing mentioned earlier in the topic.. I've watched the intro about 20 times,and i've yet to notice this,can anyone tell me where it is exactly?

[wirm]

In the intro, there's a section with Gai doing his roundhouse kick, Asuma and Kurenai vs Kisame, Sasuke and Sakura vs sound ninjas, and Naruto vs Kabuto.

The Sasuke and Sakura flash shows the two of them using weapons.

[KreShar]

Oh that... haha i thought they were talking about the new opening >_>.. Well,neither of them have "Swords" there.. they are both just using Kunais,the sword sasuka grabs at the end of that part was just one of the enemy ninja's swords.

[Deblas]

arsenal, arsenal? well he could be a little more quiet instead of a loud mouth

[animefreak]

In episode 105 shows that rasengan and chidori couldn't break through the sword. This to shows that resengan and chidori is not all that powerful. Also, i don't think the sword is all that powerful either, because is can't seem to cut ppl.

[wirm]

I'm sure it can cut people if the person using it wanted to. I'm going to guess that it's a very versatile weapon.

[KreShar]

Well,the second Chidori that sasuke uses seems to crack the sword or Raijin... i thought that the sword was just pure energy,but from the crack it looks like it's solid..

[wirm]

The crack was probably just a way for the animators to show

1) how strong chidori is
2) how pissed off Sasuke was


I bet the crack will be gone by the next episode.

[kooshi]

Yeah, the situation with the sword "cracking" on the second Chidori really put a huge ass question mark over my head. Maybe when the sword is "activited", some sort of metal comes out and charges brightly enough to make it look like pure energy? The metal itself could probably be something special and use sort of special energy wave or something.
This is just an assumption; it's the only logical explanation for me. Dunno about you guys.

[animefreak]

I think the reason y the sword broke its cuz sakuke puts all his heath and strength into one shot and yet he was also pissed off when he was being called a weakling, he possibly got his strength by thinking of killing his brother Itachi, that's y he got knock off right after he use chidori.

[FrogHermit]

Im sad that no one even looked at my coment because if he used replications to open the gates up he would have super copies stronger than himself and much faster and being able to use all of his moves and not have to worry about running out of chakra

[Shippou-sama]

1) The copies of him use his chakra, so presumably if one of his copies use all of it's chakra, he would be down that much chakra

2) The gates seem rather self-damaging, so I would imagine that the copies would pop before they were any use.

3) I'm fairly certain that Naruto is not yet in a position to learn to open the gates.


And to whoever said that Naruto must have some telepathic communication with his clones (at least sub-concious), I'm guessing, "No."

1) They have never said anything of the sort in the show.

2) He should have then been able to differentiate between himself and Kakashi using Henge (episode 4 or so, when Kakashi was testing them and replaced himself with one of Naruto's copies).

3) My understanding is that they work well together because they are all Naruto, so they all understand what Naruto is planning. I don't think he controls them so much as they are him.

[Board of Command]

Well they're shadow clones, so they probably have the same ideas as Naruto. The key is to make up the plan before using Kage-bunshin, so the plan gets implemented into the minds of all the clones by the time they're created. There's no telepathy going on.

[kooshi]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Well they're shadow clones, so they probably have the same ideas as Naruto. The key is to make up the plan before using Kage-bunshin, so the plan gets implemented into the minds of all the clones by the time they're created. There's no telepathy going on.

Exactly what he said

[animefreak]

and not forgot that is required lots of charka to performed kage-bunshin.

[wirm]

As Kakashi pointed out, it takes more than hard work alone to open the gates. One must be some kind of genius or be born with that kind of potential. Naruto is definitely not a genius. He needs to work as hard as Rock Lee to become a great ninja. even then, he probably couldn't do it.

[animefreak]

wait, isn't it danger to open the gates? cuz when rock lee was using it and stop cuz Gai senshi tell him not to open anymore cuz is was dangerous.

[kooshi]

Yeah, opening even one gate is potentially dangerous. When opening a gate, you pretty much put your muscles at their limit. Because of this, any other attacks towards you can possibly lead to fatal injuries (look what Gaara did to Lee's hand and leg).

[Board of Command]

Naruto doesn't have the physical capabilities to open gates properly. Look at Lee and Gai, they're both Taijutsu-based ninjas, so their physical condition is a lot better than the average ninja. Even with that, they still have to train their asses off to open a few gates.

[animefreak]

If any of you guys who saw the preview for episode 107, is seem like episode 107 will tell us the answer to all ours question, Rasengan vs chidori, which is stronger will come to end. I'll bet is a tied.

[fremeer]

the crack in the sword stayed.
i think the next technique naruto should learn is kagebunshin explosion. he can make a crap load of kagebunshins already and all he need to do is explode those mofo for some serious damage.
naruto has good chakra control now since he can tree walk, water walk and do rasengan all which are just chakra control. problem with people is the when naruto performs these techniques the first time he always goes over the edge with happiness and loses control making him do fall or something else. i think naruto needs to learn replacement technique next cause that would fit in perfectly with his style of fighting

[drcitan]

Naruto needs to learn how to shoot water outta his mouth

[kooshi]

Originally posted by: fremeer
i think the next technique naruto should learn is kagebunshin explosion. he can make a crap load of kagebunshins already and all he need to do is explode those mofo for some serious damage.
naruto has good chakra control now since he can tree walk, water walk and do rasengan all which are just chakra control. problem with people is the when naruto performs these techniques the first time he always goes over the edge with happiness and loses control making him do fall or something else. i think naruto needs to learn replacement technique next cause that would fit in perfectly with his style of fighting

Hmm, we don't really know the details of the Kage Bunshin explosion. For all we know, that can take up a massive amount of chakra to execute, not to mention the fact that even one shadow replication takes a lot of chakra. Naruto will probably end up having to rely on Kyubi's chakra if he were to make lots of shadow replications explode. But then again, this is assuming the explosion takes up a lot of chakra.
Naruto CAN use the replacement technique since he used it when he first had a brawl with Sasuke in episode 3. I don't blame you though since that was the only time Naruto ever used the replacement techinique.

[wirm]

I haven't seen ep 3 in a long time, but didn't Naruto just use kage bunshin in that fight? Sasuke beat the first Naruto while the other ones jumped him.

[Shippou-sama]

He used Kage Bunshin and the replacement technique. The Naruto that was tied up turned into a log, then 4-5 other Narutos jumped Sasuke from behind.

He also used the replacement technique to save the little girl from Iruka (dressed as a mist ninja) before the chuunin exam.

[animefreak]

Kage Bushin seem to be a powerfuls move in the old episodes, now is just a weak old move, do anybody agree? because Kage Bushin only beat up Sasuke's in episode 3 and no one else.

[Deblas]

nah, its still a very useful justsu

[Arog]

but naruto does not use it very wisely all he does is he summons like 100 of them and they just charge in blindly and distract the opponent

[fremeer]

it aint an attacking technique, its a support technique but naruto not too smart so he uses it as a main offensive. naruto reminds me DBZ, the only move used was kame-ha-me-ha even though they had other cool techniques like solar flare.

[kooshi]

Hmm, still makes me wonder why Kage Bunshin is considered a forbidden technique. Yeah, it was in that forbidden scrolls that Naruto stole in the first episode and even Kakashi admits that it's a forbidden jutsu (episode 4, I think, where Naruto gets the 1000 years of pain). There doesn't seem to be anything potentially dangerous about it.
Also, sometimes making like 100 or more Kage Bunshins can be helpful. Just look at that 2000 hit combo he pulled off against Gaara, haha. That was so sweet the first time I saw that.

Animefreak, I don't blame you for thinking that Kage Bunshin used to be good then turned to not so good. I think the only times where massing the Kage Bunshins were useful were these times:
- short brawl against Sasuke
- fight against the Rain ninjas during the Chuunin exam
- small amount of time against Gaara

Alright, so only three times where using the Kage Bunshins as an offensive were useful. Like Fremeer said, it seems that the jutsu is mainly used for support, like how the 3rd used that sealing technique and when Naruto needed that extra hand for Rasengan.

Oh, on the Rasengan topic, it seems to me that Naruto can control Rasengan better when he uses two hands to spin the chakra around instead of just one. Compare how he kept using one hand during his training and when he used the Kage Bunshin for the other times. Training method didn't work, but the Kage Bunshin part did. Heh, he should make a HUGEASS Rasengan with both hands while having lots of Kage Bunshins create the flow.

Edit: Just added the hugeass Rasengan idea

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: fremeer
it aint an attacking technique, its a support technique but naruto not too smart so he uses it as a main offensive. naruto reminds me DBZ, the only move used was kame-ha-me-ha even though they had other cool techniques like solar flare.

wrong, naruto main offense is not kage bunshin. its the rasengan. althought he he sometimes he uses it as an offense by just creating some clones and attack the enemy he uses kage bunshin as a distraction which has worked throughtout the series. so don't say naruto is stupid allright?