Bleach

[DeluxSkillz]

here's the first promo, http://bittorrent.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-subs%5DBleach_Promo.avi.torrent

tomorrow is the day the first ep airs this, this is one of the best manga's right now and the anime looks like it'll be just as good

[Munsu]

Saw the preview... it looks ok at the moment... i havent read the manga so i dont know much about what is going on...

But with all the hype i hope it delivers...

[Raven]

Looks ok, a little stereotypical.

[DeluxSkillz]

ofcourse it's a shounen series, i'm not gonna say it's original but it's really good typical shounen manga

[Foomanchew24]

Anyone know who might sub it, like perhaps the good people at Aone?

[Munsu]

...... I think ive read a couple of times here that they are gonna do it.... so you can probably wait for that

[Eurasian]

i hate that song. i hate that song. i hate that song.

the art is ok...that's what disappoints me. but i still can't wait. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[KameronFrye]

This manga is up there with One Piece and Naruto for me, I love both the shows which means I will no doubt love this one.

Also waiting on a pop for Viewtiful Joe, anyone know anything on subbing there?

[Knives122]

Originally posted by: Eurasian
i hate that song. i hate that song. i hate that song.

the art is ok...that's what disappoints me. but i still can't wait.

Yes the song was really really really really bad, it made the entire experience of watching bad, if they put that as the opening someones gonna die.

but Im still gonna watch it, just kill some one before I do

[KameronFrye]

I love the mangas for One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach. I love the shows for Naruto and One Piece, I'm sure this will be another love.

My only potential problem is that I had a complete falling out with Inu Yasha over Naruto, but that also was because the show just kind of fell apart (to me) after about 100 episodes, im hoping the same isn't going to happen to Naruto.

But Bleach shall decimate, listen to the warcries of the early adopters here. =b

[DeluxSkillz]

http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/download.php/2679/%5BYeyRAWs%5D_BLEACH_-_01_RAW_%5B472C56BB%5D.avi.torrent

bleach 01 raw is out for anyone interested in raws

[Everon]

Ooooh people with swords....the music is kinda weak, but oh well. The manga is alright so I'll take a look at this later when it gets a decent subber.

[Koyuki]

Get the sub from Lunar here (http://a.scarywater.net/lunar/[Lunar]%20Bleach%20-%2001%20[2101CD82].avi.torrent)

[Poiple Weezard]

Episode 1 (http://a.scarywater.net/lunar/%5BLunar%5D%20Bleach%20-%2001%20%5B2101CD82%5D.avi.torrent) is out by Lunar. I've heard great things about the manga so I'm excited about this.

EDIT: Dagnabbit, just a moment too slow.

[DeluxSkillz]

yep, i hope lunar will be the speedsubbers for bleach because i'm definately not keeping their subs they drop series once it's licensed

[Munsu]

hum... i had thought that Bleach was prelicensed... but since lunar is doing it i guess it is not... but this will surely get licensed so yeah... i'll get lunar only to watch it for now... i think animeone will also release this series

[Everon]

Anyone have an idea how long they'll extend this one? The average 26 episodes?

[DeluxSkillz]

nope it's already 152 chapters long so it'll probably be a long running series like naruto

[Raven]

Maybe it'll be one of those series that you think will always be licensed but it never seems to happen - like Naruto, or One Piece (yes I'm aware that OP is now licensed but it took a very long while).

I'll d/l the first ep to see what it's like, but the promo didn't really do it for me.

[Munsu]

im gonna watch it in a few minutes... i skimmed trough it in the morning... and it looked pretty good... especially towards the end of the episode....

[jing]

First ep was pretty good, its not FMA good but pretty kickass.

[GLS]

Originally posted by: jing
First ep was pretty good, its not FMA good but pretty kickass.

Of course! Nothings FMA good!

Great episode! I'll continue to watch this show.

[DeluxSkillz]

uhmmm ep 30 and up will be better then anything in fma

[theblakeman]

NUH UH MY MOM IS BETTER THAN EP 30 AND UP AND SHE CAN BEAT UP UR MOM ANY DAY OF THE WEEK
Anyway the first ep is alright I think I will continue watching it since I never read the manga.
EDIT: Also the opening by Orange Range (3rd Naruto opening) is pretty cool.

[jing]

Originally posted by: DeluxSkillz
uhmmm ep 30 and up will be better then anything in fma

ep 30 and up? but fma was great every episode of it.

by the way, i hope it gets better than this, cuz first episode of naruto ownz first episode of bleach.

[Munsu]

lol... stop comparing a series with another... either you like a series or not... that's all that counts... not which series is better than an other

[njdevs95]

At first I thought that this series was starting off a bit to fast without giving us any info on it's characters, which I still believe a little bit, but by the end of the first episode I was starting to get into it. I am still hoping for more background on the main characters within the next 2 episodes since I like to know at least a bit about characters in the shows I watch.

[jing]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
lol... stop comparing a series with another... either you like a series or not... that's all that counts... not which series is better than an other

Just that ppl said it was better than Naruto. So far, it isn't.

[Saruto]

how can you say a 104 ep of a serie is better than a 1 ep serie ...that ridiculous lol...we can't compare naruto to bleach...(the anime of course) ..

[animefreak]

downloading episode 1 now.....hope it good.

[animefreak]

just saw episode 1 and i think this anime is banging....really good series but only if is cut down the joke. After seeing this anime is reminded me of Midori and Samurai deeper Kyo.

[Munsu]

just saw the first episode... i thought it was very good... it had a lot of good elements... some cool characters... a little comedy... some action... blood...

only thing missing now is a plot... but you guys tell me this will come with time... so for now it is very good

[ShinobiNeko]

Just saw the first episode as well, thought it was pretty good. Definately will continue to watch this series ^^

[HimizujinEternia]

Wow. That was one of the most intriguing first episodes I have ever seen. Neither Naruto nor One Piece pulled me in on the first episode as well as this did. I have high hopes for this. I also hope they somehow explain Ichigo's uberbadass powers in a sensible manner, but oh well.

I really like the animation. Not overdone, and still looks rather good. Music was the weakest point.

Now, then, here's hoping the characters strengthen development wise! Ichigo and Shinigami whose name I cannot recall are the only ones really fleshed out that episode, and they still have a ways to go.

But overall, I rather liked it. Definitely sticking with this one.

[KameronFrye]

Shit, if it stays fairly true to the manga, wait until like 5 episodes from now... the other characters start developing in and it gets nice from then on. 30 Episodes in will be uberhardcore, but it'll get better from hereon in. It's also got some goofy humor to it too, a lot like Naruto does... I like the humor in the manga for Bleach a little more than in Naruto, but it does go both ways. I personally wouldn't put one above the other, they both take care of me.

[mugen-x]

thats right you cant go wrong with both i think they did a great job on the first ep and i like the music also

[Munsu]

Episode 1 out by anbu-keep....

[DeluxSkillz]

if aone doesn't sub it then this will probably be the best version available

[Destroyor]

Imho, Bleach manga Vol 1 (ch 1 ~ ?) is pretty slow and boring, but wait until you hit Vol 2+!, wayyyy wayy wayyy above naruto i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif (dodge bullets from naruto fans). Anime-wise just like everybody said the music is bad and I think since this eps stay pretty true to the manga it's going to be slow for awhile.

But expect goodness from eps 20ish and on .....

*spoiler*





























When are we going to see that SS-cup girl anyway? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif



Btw, [Manga] [FMA > Bleach > Naruto]

[Munsu]

I know that the music is pretty weak... but at the moment the ending is growing on me everytime i hear it...

If animeone release i'll probably keep theirs... but keep-anbu sould release the episodes pretty quickly since they are a joint... they released Samurai 7 and FMA fast when they came out...

[Knives122]

Well I like this series, and Im watching it now since I got the jist of it, the ending was very weak nothing like what Ive heard before, but I expect this show to get better

[Gods_Son]

The show has potential, we'll see how it goes.

[Y]

My issues:

1) When they deviate from the manga, you can tell they have no storytelling ability. The filler bit is simply awkward and bad.
2) The music that plays when Ichigo goes Shinigami is fucking horrid.

[Kuske]

Well, it true the song is bad rite now but let hope the new season song is a bit better.

[Himura_san]

I read the first volume of the manga and to me it was nothing impressive. Will pass on this one.

[DeluxSkillz]

moron it gets good later on

[GuardianShado]

himura, man ur judgin a book by its... er... first volume... XD
anyway, missin out on this anime n manga is gonna hit u where it hurts any anime fan. right down there in the nads.

animation = 8/10 - not the best out there despite the fact its already approaching 04-05, but not overdone. good enough for me i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif
storyline = it'll get better later on
voices = 9/10 - it wasn't wut i expected. it was better. but i thought rukia mighta sounded too much like a prepubescent boy... haha, jus imo
sfx = 9/10 - nuff sed
music = 6/10 - at least its not naruto. but if it does go that direction, ill jus be glad i always skip the OP n ED after seeing em once. XP

[kooshi]

Heh, just watched this, and I gotta say, freaking awesome. Only problem is the music.

[Uzumaki Naruto]

well just saw the 1st eps for a 1st eps its ok waiting to watch the next one

[Lefty]

Lets not forget how fucking ackward the fisrt few episodes of naruto was when it was released. Not as bad as Bleach but still it had it's problems. All manga to anime crossovers are going to have a rough start, it's a rule. Give it like ten epsiodes to get it's shit together.

[animefreak]

music is not a issue to me, is the anime that matter. Like Lefty say, give it more time and the story will come together.

wouldn't ya all agree?

[Terracosmo]

Getting the first episode now, it better be good since I've heard so much good stuff about it.

[Saruto]

Or what lol? ..its only 25 min of your time lost if it's not good...But you like naruto, fma, berserk...all great anime that i saw and love...so i'm sur you'll like that like i did...or if you dont like..then...hum..sorry? lol

[Y]

ANBU's released their version, which is... worse than Lunar's.

Go figure.

[TheEvil1]

anbus is wors then Lunars???? i just watched it and thought it was good, I refuse to watch Lunars because they have sucked too much in the Past

inuyasha forever IY-F is also subbing it, they dont have ep 1 out yet i guess ill get that and compair

[Lefty]

Watch the Aone & anbu release's Naruto. Big diffrence. Aone is better, Anbu is way to literal in their translation sometimes. I thought hthe Lunar sub was Good.

[TheEvil1]

yea i watch the AonE narutos, akeep/anbu is usially very good tho,

[Y]

"Bye Oh Oh Kick Bye" is not what the guy is saying in the OP. Anyone here agreed? He also *does* say "Don't Act A Fool" where anbu puts Japanese. And I think both of them miss the point of the opening text.

[Terracosmo]

Wow, that was actually quite good. I want more i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Aeon]

Just watched ep1, kinda reminded me of Yu Yu Hakaso(sp) but besides the op/ed I liked it. Anybody know how many eps it is?

[DeluxSkillz]

it''ll most likely be a 100* ep series

[Eurasian]

100 + episodes...*head spins*

after 2 days after everyone....i finally watched it. if i didn't read the manga, then i woulda thought it would be pretty good. i mean the lil cliffhanger w/ rukia giving ichigo (that's too cute of a name for a guy) shinigami powers. pretty tight.

THE MUSIC!!!!!!! dislike it very very much.

[HaZMaTiK]

man i like that music tha tplays at beginng and when they are fighting the last monster sorta flute llike i remember hearing it somewhere else

[HaZMaTiK]

i htink a variation of it was in naruto if i am not mistaken

[HaZMaTiK]

is it just me or was the first sentence when they gang was talking to the guy mispelled "The hell are you"


forgot to post which group the akeep/ANBU

[theblakeman]

I think the music during the shinigami part was fucking awesome "NOW YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBER ONE! SHINING BRIGHT FOR EVERYONE!" Fuckin tiiiight

[DeluxSkillz]

IY-F version is out i've talked to their translator it looks like this will be the best release out right now

[Gods_Son]

Originally posted by: DeluxSkillz
IY-F version is out i've talked to their translator it looks like this will be the best release out right now

Doubtful.

Blakeman, that song was awful. It's not even a matter of opinion.

[Munsu]

Delux... what kind of pointers make you think that it will be the best out at the moment... since you read the manga you might know more about the terms and other translations

[TheEvil1]

after watching both anbus and IY-Fs IMO the IY-F version is better

[DeluxSkillz]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
Delux... what kind of pointers make you think that it will be the best out at the moment... since you read the manga you might know more about the terms and other translations

well keep_anbu translated shinigami to soul reaper which doesn't make sense since shinigami means Death God or God of Death, the Soul funeral as keep_anbu calls it is called soul burial this is just a minor thing, the sword zampaktou they called soul breaker which i didn't really like the IY-F translator told me she kept the shinigami thing which is a big plus too me since it''s the same like translating jutsu's in naruto pointless, anyway not to down play keep_anbu's version because they did a great job, their translations are great but in the long run i think picking keep_anbu as your bleach supplier is unwise since they will drop it when it gets licensed

[Munsu]

that's true... but for the Shinigami thing... if they leave it untranslated it's better... but i dont think that changing Death God to Soul Ripper was a mistake...

I think that in japanese they use that term for both things... and there really cant be many Death Gods so soul rippers seems more adequate...

but if IY-F leaves Shinigami untranslated it would be cool

[tensai]

interesting

ive watched the keep-anbu version, so im wondering hows IY-Fs version quality wise?

the main character looks a lot like naruto, especially at the song intro, they showed him with clothes that resembled narutos, but i aint really complaining

i like it, im kinda low on hd space right, gotta start burnin some animes onto cd-rs

[Aeon]

Guess I'm the only person that watched Lunars version. I liked they version so I think I'll stick with them.

[Munsu]

nope... i watched the lunar and keep-anbu... im downloading the iy4e version now....

porbably most watched the lunar version before anything

[DeluxSkillz]

i've watched it and can say it''s the best version out there with keep_anbu at a close second, lunar's was bleh compared to those 2 ow let''s hope AonE will sub bleach and do an even better job

[jing]

I watched the Lunar version, its not bad.

Yeah, I would prefer it if all fansubbers just sticked with Shinigami. If they explained what it is, im pretty sure people would recognize what it is later on. But its up to them. I think ill watch Lunar or keep-anbu. Whatever comes out first from both of them.

[Eurasian]

i only watched lunar version. i can see why they translate shinigami was death god...cuz that's the direct translation of the kanji. but i would prefer the use of shinigami over death god, like deluxskillz said it's just like the jutsus in naruto.

[hikaru004]

So then who translated the first scene's kanji correctly? Lunar and Keep-Anbu seemed to have 2 different versions of this.

[zBarracudAz]

I'm seriously crossing my fingers that AnimeOne will pick this series up. *cross fingers*

[Munsu]

i just watched the IY version and didnt like it much.... especially the font they use in the episode

their kareoke was very good... (no katakana/kanji/hiragana though)

they also left the shinigami thing which is a plus... but the font really threw me off... so im gonna continue with the anbu-keep version


i would have hoped that someone would have but subtitles to the song that plays when Ichigo transforms into Shinigami

[DeluxSkillz]

nothing seemed wrong with the font to me, plus they did a great job translating

[HaZMaTiK]

i perfer them saying death god over soul reaper cuz it seems to cliche'd

[DeluxSkillz]

yeah here is a screen shot comparison of the 3 version available right now http://ultima.hafio.info/Fansubs/Bleach/Bleach.php

[Munsu]

after comparing those screenshots... i have to say that anbu-keep is better


again i dont like the font that IY4ever is using... it's small and ugly...


and the translation is not that better (if it is indeed better)... i dont mind Soul Reaper... infact i think it is the closest to what is meant by Shinigami (unless untranslated)


So, i'll stick to anbu-keep for now

[HaZMaTiK]

lunar if they fast sub it will be my choice or whoever is the fastest as they all 3 seem good

[nests]

IY4EVER's seem like it has a brigther colors but of course ANBU has always been very good at subbing

[HimizujinEternia]

For now, I'm going to continue downloading both ANBU and IY4Ever. I like certain things both groups have done, for right now.

[DeluxSkillz]

i'm doing the same thing keeping both their versions and eventually pick te best one

[Danger]

Saw the first episode and thought it was good, going to wait till more episodes come out before i pass judgement (although im sure it'll be a good anime).

As for the groups thing i think i'll go with the anbu/akeep team.

[Assertn]

ok, so bleach seems like a mix between
Inu yasha and yu yu hakusho
the main guy seems like great teacher onizuka
the demon looked like an angel from evangelion
and i swear that bear seems just like one of the puppets in jungle wa itsumo final

could be promising i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[theblakeman]

That plush bear is pretty fuckin hardcore

[Munsu]

humm bear? i dont remember seeing a bear... damn.. i have to rewatch now

[supra33202]

This is an interesting anime. I will definitely continue to watch it. In term of music, I think it is good although many people don't like it. Will AnimeOne sub this series too? If yes, I will stick with AnimeOne.

[DeluxSkillz]

it''s a lion plushie and he isn't supposed to appear for like 10 eps or so, they also say so in the previeuw for ep 2

[Munsu]

lol just noticed that lion/bear.... Ichigo taking him off the screen saying he comes later in the story

[DeluxSkillz]

he's the funniest character in bleach so be prepared i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[GuardianShado]

Originally posted by: Budweineken

and the translation is not that better (if it is indeed better)... i dont mind Soul Reaper... infact i think it is the closest to what is meant by Shinigami (unless untranslated)

sorry to tell u this man, but soul reaper isn't wut shinigami means. akeep_anbu was probly jus tryin to sound cool by sayin wut woulda made ppl laugh or think "wow thats cool" =/
lunar has the most accurate subs so far, wut with saying death god and soul slayer. then thers the part where ichigo's sister says their dad still communicates like a child, akeep_anbu sed "... but you have the emotional maturity of a preschooler..."
i'd hav to say that ther tryin too hard to make the audience like them. if they tried to be more accurate, i'd probly dl from them.

[Munsu]

i know it doesnt mean that specifically... i know it means Death God... what im saying is that in Japanese they probably dont have an exact word for Soul Ripper so they use Shinigami...

and i think it is more accurate to believe that there are many Soul Rippers as oppose to many Death Gods

[DeluxSkillz]

lunar''s version is not the most accurate, the original translation is Death God but Soul Reaper is the official american translations bcuz Viz translates it this way, lunar was the worst version you can get

[GuardianShado]

wait, so by NOT copying Viz and translating things literally, they are automatically the worst group out there? O_o.. iono man, i jus dont like it wen ppl change things jus to make it seem more stylish. *refers back to george bush...* guess i forgot to say imo i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif
btw, shini is the descriptive form of death, gami is the descriptive form of god. in the manga thers tons of ppl training for the title of becoming a death god. they're basically jus regular ghosts, except ther spiritual power is kicked up like 100000 notches due to training.

[ragnarokex]

woot this is one quility anime pplz greatness in the making

i love that opeing song i love it i love it oyea

[Koyuki]

Yeah, who cares if they call it death god. Soul ripper sounds fuzzy, And viz isn' good. You know it. Just watch naruto

[Assertn]

its what crustal does.....
just like when he made zaku say to chouji "why dont you go jack off in the woods, fatso" when zaku really said "why dont you go run away, fatso"
he always embellishes on translations. It sure does annoy me sometimes, but likewise ive found some groups that translate TOO directly, and it ends up sounding awkward in english

[JKD]

Finished wathcing the first episode..I thought it was really good and I think it'll become a big hit.

[ragnarokex]

i like the opener know where i can get it?

[Locke]

Man, ANBU disappoints me as it was (imo) the worst quality one out of all three. The japanese and thier sentances are much different in style than how we'd talk in america, and what i mean by that is that there sentance structure is weird in comparison to ours. Seems ANBU likes keeping it that way, and that's not good to read. I'd rather have it translated into american, instead of translating it into japanese english. If you don't understand what i mean, don't worry because i don't value your opinion because it's easy to understand.

I'm sticking with Lunar on this one, the IY-F is in a bad font.

It's kinda sad because i usually like what ANBU and keep do, but this is horrendous

[Terracosmo]

I liked the ending. i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

Stop your goddamn quality-elitism. "This version has a bad font!" LOL. You sound like freakin' kids. :/

[theblakeman]

They ARE freakin' kids. : |

[GuardianShado]

yes blakeman, we ARE freakin' kids! XD

[ragnarokex]

WTF? u talking about anbu-akeep did a great job! geez and stop the hating of the quility



and can anyone point me where to dl orange range opener....full version plz

[Munsu]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
I liked the ending.

Stop your goddamn quality-elitism. "This version has a bad font!" LOL. You sound like freakin' kids. :/

It did have a bad font... and that's my second most important aspect when choosing a fansub... after the translation...

so Kid... stfu

[ragnarokex]

omg shut up stop bitching! and tell me where to find that song mwahahah

[theblakeman]

The singles of the songs probably aren't even out yet.

[GLS]

Rie Fu - Life is Like a Boat.torrent (http://torrents.theppn.org/downloadtorrent.php?id=18393&name=Bleach%20-%20ED%20Single%20-%20Rie%20Fu%20-%20Life%20is%20Like%20a%20Boat.torrent)

Heres the mp3 for the ending. Still searching for the OP.

[Terracosmo]

@Bud: Don't call me a kid you kid or I'll bitchslap you, quality whore!

[ragnarokex]

haha slap that hoe! u touch me ill burn u

[Kuske]

We all should just be thankful that they sub for us. Without them we wouldnt be here.

[theblakeman]

The singer for the ending song is really interesting. I suggest you check her out.

[Munsu]

can someone host the mp3 somewhere for a few hours... i cant use BT and cant get it... any help is appreciated

or send it to me... im in irc... and i also have aim... just pm if you can help

[theblakeman]

I am uploading it as we speak i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Munsu]

great thanks.. i appreciate it

[theblakeman]

http://www.theblakemangames.com/riefu_likeaboat.mp3

[Munsu]

the link is not working

[theblakeman]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
the link is not working

Yeah, there's something wrong with my server apparently :[ Sorry, it should be back up soon. -_-'

[Munsu]

ok... i'll try again later... thanks

ok it worked now... thanks

[theblakeman]

IT WORKS now...i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif
Edit: Heh no problem

[ragnarokex]

i am also uploading it too

[DeluxSkillz]

you can also get that song on nipponsei's channel the op hasn't been released yet

[Hakeem_21]

Originally posted by: DeluxSkillz
uhmmm ep 30 and up will be better then anything in fma

I read the manga and i know for sure that it will never be as good as FMA!

You cant compare an avreage ghost hunting show with FMA who haves the best story,characters av all anime. Sorry for going off topic.


Im gonna buy a new pc in two weeks and i look forward to this anime,i want to see how good it is.

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Hakeem_21


Originally posted by: DeluxSkillz
uhmmm ep 30 and up will be better then anything in fma

I read the manga and i know for sure that it will never be as good as FMA!

You cant compare an avreage ghost hunting show with FMA who haves the best story,characters av all anime. Sorry for going off topic.


Im gonna buy a new pc in two weeks and i look forward to this anime,i want to see how good it is.

Why compare two different series at all? They're different series. Even if everyone say FMA is the best series of all time, remember, there was a series you said was "the best" before that. Sooner or later, something is going to replace FMA, but how can you enjoy all the series that come out in its place if all you do is compare to it.

I will say that the manga gets VERY good in Bleach. I think I read all 15 books in like 7 hours.

[Hakeem_21]

Of course something is gonna replace FMA maybe HXH after it gets back like it was before NGL. I was just saying that you cant compare FMA to a show like this.

Its doesnt have the deep and story that FMA has.

Dont get me wrong i like the bleach manga its good and thats why i will watch the anime too.

[GuardianShado]

i still dont get wuts up with bleach. the characters are simple, the storyline is simple, everything about it is so simple, yet im lovin it! XD
maybe its jus the way they present? iono, if a manga/anime is able to get my attention, thats saying a LOT. not that im a tough critic. i jus hav a short attention span XP

[aznj50]

bleach is awesome; First ep was da bomb!

[DeluxSkillz]

final say about FMA, fma is not that great half the series was bullshit it's not the best thing there is, it's original though gotta give it that but best thing there is? hell no

[DeluxSkillz]

Bleach ep 2 is out by lunar

[Locke]

If I had to do a top 10 best animes, FMA would be number 10, if it got lucky. It's awesome and they did pull a lot of stuff together, but it's nowhere near great animes like Berserk or Gantz (uncut) or HXH or One Piece or even shadow skill.

Seriously, it was good. But nowhere near as great as half the anime community says it is. It was definatly good to get in my top 10 when I only watch anime I think is awesome, and it made the top 10 outta 100+ shows, but it doesn't deserve all the acclaim it gets. It has NO Replay value at all, i never plan to watch it again althought it was a good anime. Also, One piece has barely any replay value, but only because it's so good you can't forget the most important parts.

It was good, but everyone went fanboy on it and called this good anime the best thing since sliced bread. This is 1 post, I don't plan to debate beyond this so replying to this is an aimless endeavor.

[Terracosmo]

Bleach ep 2 was cool!

GOOOD MOOOORNING ICHIGOOO

[?igma]

Originally posted by: Locke
If I had to do a top 10 best animes, FMA would be number 10, if it got lucky. It's awesome and they did pull a lot of stuff together, but it's nowhere near great animes like Berserk or Gantz (uncut) or HXH or One Piece or even shadow skill.

Seriously, it was good. But nowhere near as great as half the anime community says it is. It was definatly good to get in my top 10 when I only watch anime I think is awesome, and it made the top 10 outta 100+ shows, but it doesn't deserve all the acclaim it gets. It has NO Replay value at all, i never plan to watch it again althought it was a good anime. Also, One piece has barely any replay value, but only because it's so good you can't forget the most important parts.

It was good, but everyone went fanboy on it and called this good anime the best thing since sliced bread. This is 1 post, I don't plan to debate beyond this so replying to this is an aimless endeavor.

But then again, Naruto would end nr 100 ._.

Ill try bleach anyways i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

my top 3 i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

1 : Hellsing (not for story, not for animation (although sometimes exellent) but for good old music and athmosphere ..+ badass vampire i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif)
2 : Berserk ( After seeing the last episode I was so fucking shocked I left!!!O_o my computer to go sit in the livingroom and stared at the black screen of the tv for an hour... The effect it had upon me was soooo awesome. Brilliant anime ..might 've put it on nr one if Hellsing didnt have a badass vampire i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif)
3 : There is actually a large row of anime that could fill this spot, but I'd say FLCL, you can wake me up to watch FLCL anytime i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[drowelf]

ya flcl is a cool one to bad there are only 6 episodes

[Tsukiyomi]

The opening is by Orange Range the same people that did Viva Rock on the Naruto 3rd Ending. Not sure if this will help people in their search for the mp3 i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Koyuki]

Downloading it now i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Mookie]

Originally posted by: Uzumaki Naruto # 1
Downloading it now

The Orange Range song?
Or ep 2?

[ragnarokex]

if ur dling the op song u must tell US OR ELSE pain will come to u mwahahaha

[Mookie]

The op song can be found at www.bleachworld.com.

It sounds like it is recorded from the raw itself though, not a real release, but it is nice scapegoat for now, IMO.

[Mae]

I thought the first ep was pretty good. The main character reminded me of Kyo from Fruits Basket... The anime was good enough that I didn't even notice the fonts.

[basey44]

i thought it was ok, but the jokes and stuff were a bit dumb. guess im looking for a darker anime than this one. i just wanna ask a manga reader does it have a good storyline and characters and stuff? worth downloading 153 chapters of it?

[DeluxSkillz]

basey this is one of the best manga's out there, they cut lots of humor that would''ve made you laugh out of the anime, after say 60 chapters the latest arc starts and is still going at chapter 153, there are countless loveable and cool characters make their appearence and the real brilliance that is bleach shows...i suggest everyone to read the manga it's just great the first 6 volumes are character introduction and set up for the amazing soul society arc

[Eurasian]

Bleach manga is one of the best, imo.

it seems like they r getting into some serious stuff in epi 2.

[Assertn]

i wouldnt say FMA has the best characters.....best story yeah, but i still enjoy the characters in naruto wayy more than in FMA.

and FLCL......well.....if it had more than 6 eps....i think i wouldve shot myself in the head

[Mae]

FLCL had some good parts, but yeah...

I got Lunar's sub for ep 2, and it was pretty good. At least they didn't translate shinigami as "soul reaper" like Keep/ANBU did. I guess it gets the idea across a little better than "death god," but it just sounds wrong to me.

[ragnarokex]

well to me death god somes kinda out of place but yea soul reaper sounds good

imagine one day i saw u must become "death god"

anyways god usually means ok of that type

there is only one god there is only one budda(hes not a god just making a point)

[theblakeman]

Uhm, ever heard of polytheism?

[Everon]

It would have been nice if one of the groups just said Shinigami (had a little text up top saying Shinigami = death god/soul reaper...). I dunno I guess I'm use to reading it that way because of that Full Moon fansub.

[Ryllharu]

shinigami comes from shinto beliefs, which is basically nature spirits and the like.

shi = 'death'

gami = kami = 'god'

so shinigami literally means 'death god.' Lunar is translating it as literally as possible. I am more used to them just being called Shinigami, but that's only because I saw Full Moon wo Sagashite. Not everyone knows what shinigami means, so Lunar is doing the best for Japanese noobs.

[miaka]

hmm yea.. i think dead god translation is okay.. but shinigami name was kewl too.. but yea.. not everybody knows what it means unless they watched full moon or something

[leslina]

Personally, I'm holding out for AonE to pick up this project *crosses fingers*. Until then, I'm dl IY4. It's the little things that matter most to me and they have the decency to leave it 'shinigami', 'gigai', etc. I also think, that Keep-ANBU's version was not up to standard, and they use the Viz manga tranlastion of shinigami, Soul Reaper, oh hell no.

[Terracosmo]

I just signed up on the Bleach site to get the opening. And I got the TV size opening of worst quality ever.





i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

[Lefty]

You just need to wait for the sound track to come out then they'll replace it with a rip from the OST.

[theblakeman]

Or wait for the single.

[Elessar]

Originally posted by: leslina
Personally, I'm holding out for AonE to pick up this project *crosses fingers*. Until then, I'm dl IY4. It's the little things that matter most to me and they have the decency to leave it 'shinigami', 'gigai', etc. I also think, that Keep-ANBU's version was not up to standard, and they use the Viz manga tranlastion of shinigami, Soul Reaper, oh hell no.

I got a great tip for you - watch the raws! It's unimageinable, but they are completely left in japanese!
Oh, you don't understand japanese? But you do not want it translated either? Please, could you decide what you want. Thank you.

In bleach shinigami is not a name, but a profession. Therefor it gets translated. You don't object "gakusei" (or whatever they actually use in bleach) being replaced with "high shool student" and most likely you wouldn't mind other jobs being translated. But this one you do and that's very inconsequent.

Literal or direct translations from japanese into whatever_language seldom work. "God of death" doesn't work in christian western countries as we have no such thing. We have a monotheistic culture and our god is certainly not the "God of Death". "Death" itself doesn't work either, because there are many of them and our mythological/cultural background has "Death" as one entity. But we have expressions for Death's minions - the grim reapers. Whatever they are called in japanese, "grim reaper" (or soul reaper) is the best and single correct translation, because this is what they are in our language.

Leaving japanese and describing the meaning in an editors note is useful for expressions that can't be translated because they have no equivalent in the language translated into. The rest is appropiatly translated and that is consequent. Leaving rather random words like "grim reaper", "replacement body" or "soul cutter blade" untranslated is imho idiotic. What expression should be translated, which should be left untranslated? Who decides and why translate at all?

A good translation is a translation that translates as much as possible with the correct expressions so that the meaning is as preserved as possible and as understandable as possible. If the translator is even able to reflect the mood a japanese gets from the way it is said and its choice of words (like Naruto's cocky datte bayoo) that pushes him and his work from good to excellent.

This isn't specific to leslina, it's for all in this topic. Please understand this before you ever again mock about the job a translator did. Thanks for your time.

[Munsu]

Originally posted by: theblakeman
Uhm, ever heard of polytheism?

Well yeah... but usually, if not always, polytheism does have many gods, but each god is different...

You have a god of the sun, a god of beauty, a god of war, a god of death.... but you dont have 2 gods of the sun, two gods of beauty, two gods of war, or two gods of death... so the translation of Shinigami to god of death is akward although it is literary...

I was speaking with a japanese translator and presented him with this situation... He himself told me that god of death would seem inappropiate... and since Soul Reaper (or the equivalent) doesnt have a japanese word/phrase to represent it, the closest to use is Shinigami...

[miaka]

Originally posted by: Elessar


Originally posted by: leslina
Personally, I'm holding out for AonE to pick up this project *crosses fingers*. Until then, I'm dl IY4. It's the little things that matter most to me and they have the decency to leave it 'shinigami', 'gigai', etc. I also think, that Keep-ANBU's version was not up to standard, and they use the Viz manga tranlastion of shinigami, Soul Reaper, oh hell no.

I got a great tip for you - watch the raws! It's unimageinable, but they are completely left in japanese!
Oh, you don't understand japanese? But you do not want it translated either? Please, could you decide what you want. Thank you.

In bleach shinigami is not a name, but a profession. Therefor it gets translated. You don't object "gakusei" (or whatever they actually use in bleach) being replaced with "high shool student" and most likely you wouldn't mind other jobs being translated. But this one you do and that's very inconsequent.

Literal or direct translations from japanese into whatever_language seldom work. "God of death" doesn't work in christian western countries as we have no such thing. We have a monotheistic culture and our god is certainly not the "God of Death". "Death" itself doesn't work either, because there are many of them and our mythological/cultural background has "Death" as one entity. But we have expressions for Death's minions - the grim reapers. Whatever they are called in japanese, "grim reaper" (or soul reaper) is the best and single correct translation, because this is what they are in our language.

Leaving japanese and describing the meaning in an editors note is useful for expressions that can't be translated because they have no equivalent in the language translated into. The rest is appropiatly translated and that is consequent. Leaving rather random words like "grim reaper", "replacement body" or "soul cutter blade" untranslated is imho idiotic. What expression should be translated, which should be left untranslated? Who decides and why translate at all?

A good translation is a translation that translates as much as possible with the correct expressions so that the meaning is as preserved as possible and as understandable as possible. If the translator is even able to reflect the mood a japanese gets from the way it is said and its choice of words (like Naruto's cocky datte bayoo) that pushes him and his work from good to excellent.

This isn't specific to leslina, it's for all in this topic. Please understand this before you ever again mock about the job a translator did. Thanks for your time.

yeah.. translating is quite an hard job.. and there is many translation even for one word.. ^_^ let's just appreciate the fansubbers who fansubs for free ^_^

btw.. can't wait for the next one.. hope it comes out soon..

[KameronFrye]

As far as the subbing, I do prefer the "Americanized" lingo over literal translations. The viz manga's are not that bad, but nothing Viz does is exactly great either. The pacing on the manga to show seems good, it remains to be seen how much will be taken from the manga and how much will be newly created material for the show. Honestly though, I feel like I'll love it all, whatever they decide to do; unless they do a ton of episodes similar to the See-What's-Under-Kakashi's-Mask Naruto type episodes, that would make me grumpy, heh. I personally don't care about fonting, as long as I can read it. I care more about typos and such, since I put a lot of effort into writing myself. I know I make mistakes in my writing from time to time, but poor spelling makes me stop watching an episode. I care more about grammar than anything, context of sentences (being non-literal translation) would be a close runner up though.

[Ryllharu]

The manga has just been pure storyline with no fillers at all so far. I have no reason to expect the anime will be any different. But then again, look at Naruto.

[leslina]

I got a great tip for you - watch the raws! It's unimageinable, but they are completely left in japanese!
Oh, you don't understand japanese? But you do not want it translated either? Please, could you decide what you want. Thank you.

In bleach shinigami is not a name, but a profession. Therefor it gets translated. You don't object "gakusei" (or whatever they actually use in bleach) being replaced with "high shool student" and most likely you wouldn't mind other jobs being translated. But this one you do and that's very inconsequent.

Literal or direct translations from japanese into whatever_language seldom work. "God of death" doesn't work in christian western countries as we have no such thing. We have a monotheistic culture and our god is certainly not the "God of Death". "Death" itself doesn't work either, because there are many of them and our mythological/cultural background has "Death" as one entity. But we have expressions for Death's minions - the grim reapers. Whatever they are called in japanese, "grim reaper" (or soul reaper) is the best and single correct translation, because this is what they are in our language.

Leaving japanese and describing the meaning in an editors note is useful for expressions that can't be translated because they have no equivalent in the language translated into. The rest is appropiatly translated and that is consequent. Leaving rather random words like "grim reaper", "replacement body" or "soul cutter blade" untranslated is imho idiotic. What expression should be translated, which should be left untranslated? Who decides and why translate at all?

A good translation is a translation that translates as much as possible with the correct expressions so that the meaning is as preserved as possible and as understandable as possible. If the translator is even able to reflect the mood a japanese gets from the way it is said and its choice of words (like Naruto's cocky datte bayoo) that pushes him and his work from good to excellent.

This isn't specific to leslina, it's for all in this topic. Please understand this before you ever again mock about the job a translator did. Thanks for your time.

Firstly, I wasn't mocking. However, I was was critical, with good reason. Secondly, I happen to be a foreign language teacher and on top of my pet peeves list, in any of my classrooms, is a student attempting a literal or direct translation of a text. Literal translations do no always work or convey appropriate meaning. I am also a student of Japanese and I appreciate what a difficult endeavor fansubbing is. Even so, I'm particular. I rather certain phrases and words be left as is, with liner notes included at the margins. Keeping it as authentic as possible is what's most important--to me. Not butchering for sake of Americanizing or what have you. So even though IYF may not meet the standard of quality of the other groups mentioned, they have the courtesy of trying to maintain that authenticity of the Japanese experience. And I do watch the RAWs before dl the fansub. I view manga in the same way. At any rate, with various groups working on a project, one is free to choose on a version that's more to their liking.

[Ryllharu]

Are you thinking of people who are new to anime? As a foreign language teacher, you are used to students who are not fresh into the material before some of the harder translations get started. Of course you don't want a literal translation because they end up sounding wrong. But sometimes the only way to figure out what you need to translate it to is by first doing a literal translation. I took Latin for 4 years and there was no way I could have figured out some of the poems without the aid of the literally translation I did moments before.

Not everyone knows what Shinigami are. I know I didn't for years. Notes do solve these problems and I truly prefer them over literally translations, but the fact of the matter is, I don't really want to have to constantly test my Japanese knowledge when watching the 14th eps of a series, after the notes have stopped or worse, having to look at the same note for the 400th time. Notes clutter up a lot of space and after a while, you DO get tired of seeing one you've finally learned.

I really don't like looking at fansubs that are 70% Japanese (I've seen some naruto ones like that). THAT takes considerable effort to mull through and sorta destoyed the enjoyable experience of some of those eps. Most fansub groups don't Americanize, they just take a lot of phrases that don't necessarily have english or western analogs and turn them literally (which is the best for those situations in order to not alienate new watchers).

[PSJ]

oh my god just saw ep 1 this show is amazing it was mad cool!!

[Assertn]

who cares how shinigami is translated to? it doesnt really affect the plot of the series in any way.

In fact, alot of anime tend to be rather.....uncreative with the names they give to people of unworldly strength as it is.

[tensai]

just wondering
whats the difference between iy-f's ep 2 in each versions?

[ragnarokex]

indeed its like shinobi and ninja most of us prefe ninja instead os shinobi (example from naruto)

[DeluxSkillz]

Originally posted by: tensai
just wondering
whats the difference between iy-f's ep 2 in each versions?

there was a mis timed line in v1

[DeluxSkillz]

Bleach Ep 3 raw

http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/download.php/2883/%5BYeyRAWs%5D_BLEACH_-_03_RAW_%5B40066786%5D.avi.torrent

[NewTaxes]

Don't recall thier names, but does anyone else find it highly entertaining that the blonde guy's sister is always wearing the chef apron.

[basey44]

not really, i didnt really notice i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[DeluxSkillz]

http://a.scarywater.net/lunar/%5BLunar%5D%20Bleach%20-%2003%20%5BA9A0FE9F%5D.avi.torrent

Lunar Ep 3

[Munsu]

Best episode so far... very cool turn of events... and the blood is always a plus

[DeluxSkillz]

yeah great episode they changed around some scenes but they kept most of the original intact

[Munsu]

Can you put in as a spoiler warning what what changed...?

[DeluxSkillz]

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


well in the manga the piece of the mask the hollow wears wasn't restored so it was still broken off
ichigo and the hollow didn't fight outside, the hollow was facing off against him in the house then attacked orihime and practically the same scene was displayed with orihime jumping inside her brothers mouth
the hollows mask didn't explode into pieces it broke down and fell to the floor
ichigo was still holding the sword in his hand when the hollow grabbed for it to stab himself with it, so no big things were changed they probably just made it a little more exciting with the hollow slamming ichigo out of the house and then chasing after him which he didn't do in the manga cuz ichigo jumped back up into the house

so only minor things were changed but the intergrity of the manga was kept in tact they changed much more in the first 2 eps then this one, a lot of jokes were left out or were more funny in the manga

SPOILERS END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[basey44]

come on anbu hurry up

[Ryllharu]

Anbu??? The Lunar version is the best. And by the way, is already out.

[basey44]

lunars the best? awwwwwwww, hey didnt they translate shinigami to death god, id prefer soul reaper to that, what other differacnes are there between them that make lunar the best

[DeluxSkillz]

lunar is the most sucky out of all of them, see them as a speedsubber like anime-heaven

[basey44]

ah ok, thanks heaps for clearing up that confusion i hadnt seen a lunar ep so didnt know what to think, how long does it usually take for anbu to come out, 2 days, 3 days? something like that?

[Munsu]

Thanks Delux... im gonna be asking you for manga differences everytime... so you have been warned

[DeluxSkillz]

anbu is usually released tomorrow

no problem bud, oh i forgot something

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the whole thing with the hollows devouring inoue's brother wasn't in the manga they made this up to fill up a possible plot hole later in the story, since in the manga inoue's brother just was a hollow and it made it seem he had become a hollow out of sadness, but the anime made it so that that big hollow you saw in episode 2 was controlling inoue's brother so to get to ichigo, oh well next episode should be good i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

SPOILERS END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Terracosmo]

Ep 3 was good stuff.

[Mae]

@ translation discussion: I just have my own personal preferences for translation, no insult implied.

For ep 3, I thought the blood on the teddy bear was a nice creepy touch. The chain attatched to her chest, too. I've never been a big fan of the memory eraser plot twist, though. Kind of disappointed in that.

[Hollow]

MUSTNOTSPOIL!!!
The differences in the anime and the manga are pretty big, seeing as how
*SPOILERS*














REMOVED'D






*End spoilers*

[Munsu]

Hollow... dont put manga spoilers here... they are not welcomed

[basey44]

hey hollow just quietly u might like to change your avatar, a mod could consider it a spoiler, then WHAMMO banned

[Hollow]

Really? Sorry, I thought this was a general discussion! My bad.

[Munsu]

just edit your post and delete the spoiler

[Hollow]

Better? Sorry, I'm new here.

[ShinobiNeko]

the more episodes of Bleach I watch the more I like it ^_^ ep 3 was pretty good.

[Eurasian]

epi 3 is good. rukia got some weird gadgets.

[DeluxSkillz]

http://a.scarywater.net/akeep/%5BKeep_ANBU%5D_Bleach_-_03_%5B9D7D7303%5D.avi.torrent

Keep_ANBU ep 3

[Raven]

I've been d/ling Lunar for eps 1-3, and I haven't tried any others... should I really bother? They seem fine to me. Am I really missing out on anything?

[DeluxSkillz]

i sugest getting keep_anbu or iy-f for better translations, lunar is good but they are nothing more then a speed sub when it comes to bleach i find the keep_anbu and iy-f translations to be better not considering the translations of certain things like shinigami

[narutosharingan]

Lunar is not bad, but I do think anbu keep is better.

So I was so surprised to find an anime so popular in the beginning that I tried it out, and MAN it is awesome. I love it

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn
I've been d/ling Lunar for eps 1-3, and I haven't tried any others... should I really bother? They seem fine to me. Am I really missing out on anything?

Nope, Lunar is probably the best for Bleach. Fairly literal translation, fast, good QC department.




Originally posted by: DeluxSkillz
i sugest getting keep_anbu or iy-f for better translations, lunar is good but they are nothing more then a speed sub when it comes to bleach i find the keep_anbu and iy-f translations to be better not considering the translations of certain things like shinigami

How is Lunar a speed sub? The eps airs on Tues and Lunar has a sub out a day later. Now, I'm not sure what you consider fast, but to me, a speed sub is under 6 hrs (or 2 for Baka-san and Naruto). Maybe some of the other groups that are doing Bleach don't have as good QC and it takes them a little longer to make a decent quality eps. The eps are translated about as literally as possible, with it still making sense to the English speaking world, and everything else seems to be appropriately timed, and the encode is not abnormally huge. That sounds to me like a quality job done fast. Lunar isn't a speed sub, everyone else is just slow.

Why does everyone continue to defend anime-keep? Their translations for many series of late have just been plain WRONG. (Shudders at the thought of Mai-HiME eps 1 by keep...again) If its the whole translating 'shinigami' that has most people complaing, do us all a favor and grow up. Unless you have a hand in it or are doing a lot of the distro, you're a leecher and haven't earned the right to complain. Can you do all the necessary work to sub an episode of anime?...Didn't think so. (This is not directed at anyone in particular but is more of a general statment.)

One more time class: Shi = death and gami = kami = god. Now Lunar translates shinigami as "Death God", thus literally as possible. How is "Soul Reaper" better than that?

[DeluxSkillz]

i didn't even say anything about the shinigami thing i was talking about the translations and keep_anbu's are obviously better, i'm not saying they are bad at all but they are not as good as lunar is all i'm saying but that's my opinion, i'm not gonna argue with you about yours it looks like you like lunar well that's good they are not doing a bad job but not as good as say keep_anbu or iy-f

[Ryllharu]

The shinigami remark wasn't directed at you. But a large group of people have been complaining about that. I used one post for many issues. Let's say I'm beginning to get a little irritated at people making complaints about subs they are leeching and getting for free.

If unnecessarily complex words where simple ones fuction perfectly is acceptable to you continue watching keep or iy-f versions. No hostility intended. I'm sure it's clear by now I have a bias for Lunar and against keep.


Again, forgive me for the hostility, I'm just pretty irritated right now.

[miaka]

well.. let's stop with arguing over who translated shinigami better... it really depends on how ppl want to translate it.. and there are many ways to translate it.. and many have different opinion about it..

[Munsu]

One more time class: Shi = death and gami = kami = god. Now Lunar translates shinigami as "Death God", thus literally as possible. How is "Soul Reaper" better than that?[/quote]


@Ryllaharu... you answered it yourself... it is literal... many things in the japanese language cant be transled in that matter... you have to take it into context...

Not saying that they have it wrong... but my intuition says to me that using Death God is innappropiate for what these people represent...

if i told you right now "Fuck Off"... it is a matter of how you interpret it... i might mean it literally... or might not... but you wouldnt know would you?...

that's where the translation experts come in and it is a matter of who you trust the most and who you feel is putting the best general meaning of the translation in context to the situation....

and again i remind you that there is no word in Japanese to represent a Soul Reaper or the equivalent... so the usage of Shinigami might just be a substitute...

It is all a matter of your opinion... im just bringing you the options... So everyone feel free to download what they want and believe what they want... as long as you guys understand all the possibilities and have chosen what you trully believe is best....

[Rek]

I just got done watching the first three eps... first two keep/aone and the third lunar.... IMO the 3rd was the best so far... but that has nothing to do with the subbers... I just think death god "sounds" cooler...

but they are both appropriate

[kooshi]

Me, I don't care what they call which, just as long as I understand what is going on.
As for the anime, it's been so cool so far. Heh, everything has some sort of somewhat unexpected surprise or something stupid, yet funny. As for the action, it's simple, but still enjoyable and good.

[Hollow]

Just be greatful that people are fansubbing it at all. If you prefer Lunar, watch lunar. Don't try to push your views on others. I get enough of that from door to door holy men. Myself, I prefer ANBUs translation.



See? I left it at that. I didn't say: "OMG!!11!! WATCH ANBUS!!! THEY SAY -such and such-!!11!! THEY ARE THE BEEEST!!!"


Btw, IMO they are the best. But, i degress, you are all entitled to you own opinions. And Soul Reaper just sounds more humane then "Death god".

[DeluxSkillz]

http://a.scarywater.net/naruto/%5BNaisho%20%26%20TW%5D%20Bleach%20Episode%2001.av i.torrent

Naisho & TW released episode 1 for anyone that cares

[Aeon]

This show has grown on me over the last 3weeks. First week was cool till I rewatched the ep and asked myself why I liked it in the first place. Second ep bored me but third ep brought me back. And the opening made me do a 180, I now like it i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif.

[Locke]

I don't see why this whole shinigami stuff is a great arguing point. They call his soul slayer a Zanpakutoh. I guess they have a more american translation of that blah blah blah. In the end Lunar does it quicker and IMO have the best font and more americanised translations. That's my opinion though, if you like the others that's fine by me, but Lunar is at the very least quicker and that's one thing we can all agree on. IY-F seem to have the best raws though, they're slightly darker.

[theblakeman]

<u>WHO CARES?!!?</u>
People need to talk about the show not the translation of "shinigami" I mean for Christ's sake that subject AT MOST deserves one reply not 8 pages worth of arguing.

[DeluxSkillz]

lol i agree, anyway TW's version is real good i like it the most out of all of them

[Raven]

It might not matter which subber does the best job, but it's still ok to discuss it, nothing wrong with that. No need to get so angry about it.

[PSJ]

i dont think its all that wise to download TW's releases in anything. they are slow and seems to drop stuff easily.

[Hollow]

Yeah, If you're going for a collection, TW isn't the way to go. ANBU or AonE are good for consistent releases, but I don't think AonE does bleach.

[basey44]

oooo, should i do what ive done with my naruto collection? all the newer releases are form anbu-aone or just aone for the newest but my older stuff is TW, i just replace the anbu-aone eps with TW as they come out

oh and by the way what did TW translate shinigami to? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

@ delux below: then its decided, keeping shinigami as shinigami, i will also do it. hooray for TW collection

[DeluxSkillz]

they didn't translate shinigami they put a note on top of the screen, TW is the best version of bleach ep 1 out right now i'm gonna be doing just like you said replacing everything with TW

[Goingin]

If it's gonna be the same story with Bleach as TW did with Naruto then u can't expect anything from em...
Maybe they even don't release an ep 2...

Ah well... i don't mind what they do, i just download all the Bleach releases and throw away the worst subbers in the end i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Reita]

I have finaly seen ep 1 and read almost vol.1 and just got one thing to say: SUPAH-EXCELLENT

Ryllharu
about A-keeps translations. They are recruting new translators ^_^ i wonder why.. =P

[Bloodhybrid]

it will get released... just in 2-3 weeks, maybe even months

thier at ep 60 with naruto i think
only over half a year behind everyone else

[Reita]

And im also voting for fansubers to use Shinigami instead or Soul Reaper or Death God /god of death whatever...

[DeluxSkillz]

Originally posted by: Bloodhybrid
it will get released... just in 2-3 weeks, maybe even months

thier at ep 60 with naruto i think
only over half a year behind everyone else

they dropped naruto after finishing ep 53

[Munsu]

Originally posted by: Reita
I have finaly seen ep 1 and read almost vol.1 and just got one thing to say: SUPAH-EXCELLENT

Ryllharu
about A-keeps translations. They are recruting new translators ^_^ i wonder why.. =P

Show me a group that it's not recruiting translators and i'll show you a cock sucker from Guatemala (no insult intended, im just a George Carlin fan)

[Gods_Son]

Enough of the Shinigami debate. Everyone has their own preference, it shouldn't matter if it doesn't match up with your own.

[narutosharingan]

Yes, it really does not matter. Just download the one you prefer.

[kooshi]

Yes, please, stop discussing the translation dispute. It's just all a matter of opinion. If you don't like a subgroup's translation, don't d/l it then.

Anyways, back onto the episode discussion, I liked ep. 3 (but then again, this series is turning out to be awesome). Although it was quite serious during most of the episode, I just loved the ending where Kuchiki used that memory eraser. Lol, how can you not laugh at rag doll characters right after all the serious drama between Inoue and her brother, haha.

[DeluxSkillz]

http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/download.php/2965/%5BYeyRAWs%5D_BLEACH_-_04_RAW_%5BA04C1ABD%5D.avi.torrent

Bleach Ep 4 raw

[KameronFrye]

The structure of Japanese language versus the structure of American language is completely different. Some things as said in Japanese just don't flow right, so they are reworded by some subbers. Others pride on keeping it authentic, and others take great amounts of artistic license. It's good that there are more groups working on the sub, since that also gives more people an choice on who they enjoy. I don't say any one group is better than another, since I watch the raw before I even see a sub. But as long as they have a basic knowledge of the English language (read: not Engrish) and can form decent sentences, I'll live with anything for subs. I don't have an official stance on preferrence of Death God/Soul Reaper, either one really works for me.

As for the show, loving it. Just got through with four. Given the current load of manga vs TV, I would guess they currently can make 75-80 episodes with the current amount of mangas. The TV itself does not seem to stray from the manga, although they have abridged a little bit from the story. I'm definitely not complaining about it, as I enjoy the show. They have changed a few little things from the manga, but nothing to piss your pants about.

So, when are we getting a Bleach forum, eh? =b

[kooshi]

I think there's gonna be a Bleach forum once the anime's popularity rises. Dunno if many people still know about it yet.

[DeluxSkillz]

http://a.scarywater.net/lunar/%5BLunar%5D%20Bleach%20-%2004%20%5BF5B9BCF8%5D.avi.torrent

Lunar ep 4 released enjoy

[Terracosmo]

I doubt this will turn out to be a personal favorite series of mine, but it's a good watch and hopefully will be even more so now when more characters are getting introduced...

[Harakiri]

It's certainly a very shonen anime! I enjoyed it a lot, especially the way that machismo didn't mean it had to lack style - it's very stylish! I liked the real 'guys' vibe to it, though. Especially in the end of Ep 1 when it's like SHINIGAMI! all hardcore style.

The animation can be crude - main problem being the recklessness with dubbing. Not on the fansubbers part, but the animation studio's.

[DeluxSkillz]

episode for was great stayed true to most of the manga once again next ep should be a good onei/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[basey44]

ey terra u just wait till it gets into the series more, then we'll see how good it is

[Terracosmo]

I can usually feel if a show is going to rape my world or not, from the first few eps.
But yeah, we'll see. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[narutosharingan]

4 was yet again a great episode....but DAMN i hate cliffhangers....

[kooshi]

Episode 4 by A-Keep and ANBU is out.

[KameronFrye]

Shit, episode 6-7 should be pretty decent, 8+ is when it begins to get nuts. It'll have a little pocket of fun after that, then it's all hell in a blender after the T.V. show invasion episodes... =b

[basey44]

ep 4 is pretty good except for one part
TO BE CONTINUED...
dammit
see terra, its getting better now that chads in it eh, and theres only more goodness to come

[KameronFrye]

At least the Bleach "To Be Continued" isn't as bad as Naruto's. =b

[kooshi]

Damn, that was a great episode. How I wish there wasn't a cliffhanger. It's still very interesting on what Chad is gonna do (not a manga reader here). Wonder what will happen to Kuchiki.

[KameronFrye]

Hahaha! Dude, Chad... you're going to enjoy Chad even more than you do starting Tuesday. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif
The next episode gets hectic, definitely going to be solid. Just a bunch of shit hitting a fan. And only like 4 more days to go.

[basey44]

i love sado, hes so cool

[Assertn]

alright kiddies.....challenge time
did anybody notice that the intro for the 4th episode is different than the previous intros?

[HimizujinEternia]

Hmmm...

What might you be referring to, Assertn? Animation, or song?

[Assertn]

animation....there's a clip that is changed

[basey44]

theres a few actually, rukia kinda falls off the post, and when they spray paint the screen red i dont think they ran away before, also on the swirl around ichigo i dont think they had the blur effect around him also the old intro near the start at the 3d bit that ends on rukia used to just cut to the next scene, now it zooms into the wall

that it? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Assertn]

hmm interesting, i only caught rukia falling off the post, but i found another one that you didnt mention yet.....
the redhead is tinted blue in the beginning of the 4th intro instead of being her usual colors