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AlbinoFury
Fri, 09-17-2004, 10:53 PM
narutofan or irc has it i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

kaigan
Fri, 09-17-2004, 10:54 PM
you beat me to it.

excellent chapter

Tofu #2
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:10 PM
i think the raw topics alrdy covered all this chapter enough and a whole lot of more too....

good ch. nonetheless

L8r
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:15 PM
any1 else think that page 2 and 4 looks wierd?

could just be me... (haveing some problem with my grafik card)

Knives122
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:16 PM
the only problem Im having is the page right before sasuke goes lvl 1, cant really follow that

Hotsuma
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:16 PM
Looking at that chapter, something new dawned on me.

What if the Kyuubi was never an actual, physical beast? I kinda get the impression that it was just one, GIANT manifestation of a creature of that's true form is chakra.


Anyways. The chapter was boring and predictable. Not too spectacular, except revealing even more of Sasuke's insecurities.

edit - And I don't know if Sasuke can handle that strength, automatically. It just seemed to come out of nowhere, accidentally (while the other 4 could bring it out when they wanted) So, the fight might be a few more chapters than predicted.

Winged Dancer
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:31 PM
Wow, for the first time in my life I actually enjoyed reading it in the original japanese... for the first time, I can seriously doubt some of Inane's translations. Which means I'm getting better. Which makes me real happy.

Other than that, the Kyuubi must have had a physical body at some point - remember back in episode one, how the shinobi were attacking it with weapons and taijutsu?
So either the Kyubi had a physical body or the shinobi were a bunch of idiots back then.

/me goes off to celebrate via dowloading hentai...

Uchiha Barles
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:38 PM
Sasuke wasn't even hurt...how much power does orochimaru have to be able to give that riduculous power to Sasuke with no problems at all? Either way, it looks like the power ups have reached a cap. Though I've loved the DBZ tribute these past few chapters have been giving, I'm very eager to see this return to a battle of ninjas, not just fighters. If that doesn't happen, I would like to see Kakashi beat the living shit out of both of them. Kakashi warned Sasuke that he would stop growing if he relied on the power of the cursed seal. He's doing that now. It would be nice if kakashi proved what he said to be true, and showing Sasuke (and Naruto, cuz he's relying on the kyubi power, which isn't very different than what Sasuke is doing) what real strenght is, through a vicious beating. I would be even nicer if he did it without the use of his sharingan, and made it a point to make sure those two noticed it.

Saw all the arguing in the other threads...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh dear god I hadn't laughed that hard in awhile. It was much needed.

Kumiriko
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:39 PM
Well they could not beat it so it is a possibility.

Anywas since not everone knows japanes. what Sasuka Sead Last Really shows how Much Of a knob he is. "I'm more Specale" He wasnt hugged nuf as a child. He cant win this Battle. He thinks too much of himself. thats his Major Flaw as a person.

Eurasian
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:40 PM
since i didn't read the raw, i thought 231 was awesome.

Winged Dancer
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Sasuke wasn't even hurt...

I really doubt he was saying that... really really doubt it.

In japanese he was saying "shou ga nee na..." which usually means "no other option" or "no other way." There were no kanji on those sentences, so I'm pretty sure of that... I think that was Inane taking a very creative license, such as when Itachi and Kisame were talking and Kisame said "Gaara de mo nai", it was translated as "Gaara is not here" while it meant "That's out of character".

So, yeah. Sasuke was hurt to at least some degree... pretty sure of that.

/end rant.

Tofu #2
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by: Kumiriko
Well they could not beat it so it is a possibility.

Anywas since not everone knows japanes. what Sasuka Sead Last Really shows how Much Of a knob he is. "I'm more Specale" He wasnt hugged nuf as a child. He cant win this Battle. He thinks too much of himself. thats his Major Flaw as a person.

whoa man. you need to really read what you type. so many typos, i had a hard time reading it, and why do you capitalise is stupid spots?

"i'm more special" was actually kinda funny tho.

Kumiriko
Fri, 09-17-2004, 11:55 PM
Since i have got up to 774 posts and you still havent come to the realization i am just a bad Speller who capitalizes at random there is nothing i can do for you. I am thinking i might have a Mild case of Dislexia. Never been tested but alwas been a crappy speller. but back on topic. I never really Went out of my way to say he was a winey Bitch. but now it cant be helped

Uchiha Barles
Sat, 09-18-2004, 12:13 AM
Eh...I can only go by what's in the anime. But thanks for the heads up. Either way, the cursed seal's power is putting Sasuke on par with Naruto. Perhaps even higher. That's pretty powerful.

Oh, and about that Sakura picture... She should do porno. She looks like she should, and it would completely in character. What a whore.

Edit: By anime, I mean manga.

mage
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by: Winged Dancer


Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Sasuke wasn't even hurt...

I really doubt he was saying that... really really doubt it.

In japanese he was saying "shou ga nee na..." which usually means "no other option" or "no other way." There were no kanji on those sentences, so I'm pretty sure of that... I think that was Inane taking a very creative license, such as when Itachi and Kisame were talking and Kisame said "Gaara de mo nai", it was translated as "Gaara is not here" while it meant "That's out of character".

So, yeah. Sasuke was hurt to at least some degree... pretty sure of that.

/end rant.

he was getting smacked around by a supercharged naruto (how much can 12 year olds take anyway?) for two chapters, he HAD to be hurt. Unless the cursed seal heals you like the kyubi, which i dont think it does.

kAi
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:12 AM
cant we just make one topic for each chapter and call it..
Chapter XXX Discussion...instead of have 2 or 3 topics about raws, inane and whatever...and just post inside it if the chapter is out or what, and who ever made the topic just edits his first post with
Raw is out @ (irc server/channel) (http)...
Inane version out @ (irc server/channel) (http)...
its just the same discussions get discussed and such...


well any way back to the topic...good chapter all in all, wonder when kakashi will get there i dont think there is goin to be much left of this fight...i think the next chapter will basically some this fight up...and see what there capable of...
Chapter 232 prediction: i think we will see them fighting pretty hard out...no ones really got the advantage there both about even, and near the end of the chapter we see someone else...

Tabouh
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Sasuke wasn't even hurt...how much power does orochimaru have to be able to give that riduculous power to Sasuke with no problems at all?


This is something that has been bugging me ever since Orochimaru gave the seal to Sasuke during the exam. I can only come up with 2 hypothesis, feel free to discuss:

1- The curse doesn't actually give power but rather unlocks it from the individual, something hidden and dangereous to use (hence the 9/10 chance of death Oro mentionned when he gave it). What, why and where this power actually come from is hard to explain but my guess is that is has to do with demonic powers of some sort. Maybe the Curse Seal is actually a demonic mark of some sort. I assume it's demonic because every level 2 Cursel Seal we've seen so far transformed the user into some sort of demonic alter-ego of itself (I wonder how Anko would look like :D ).

This would explain why Orochimaru has a certain ''talent'' to see thru a person's potential, maybe he somehow sense/detect potential Curse Seal candidate. Then again it leaves a lot room of interpretation.


2- Like the first one, the Curse Seal doesn't actually give but rather converts it from the user (any user... who survive). We all know chakra is a mixture of the spirit and the body energies. Maybe the Curse Seal actually allows the user to convert his spirit, or rather will, into physical energy (instead of spending time training your body). One of the sound's four (sanko?) mentionned something about losing your will as you use more power. It would explain how Sasuke was pretty much unphased by Naruto's sucker punch when this encounter started along with a myrad of other occurence (crushing Zaku's arms, Ziroubou withstanding a giant Chouji, etc...).


Whatever the curse seal really is, it might prove important for story later on in one way or another.
Sorry if this as already been discussed or assumed years ago, I'm a newcomer :/

Gods_Son
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:18 AM
Good chapter.

Hotsuma
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:26 AM
Does anybody play the Street Fighter Alpha games, or just know the original canon (never explained in the game)? I think it's safe to bet that this seal is like the Satsui no Hadou. (Hadou of Murderous intent) Same principles.

In the official canon, ONLY Ryu and Akuma/Gouki have it (but Sakura could grow it, too) What this does is unlock a fighters true potential, without restraint on their attacks. Akuma/Gouki embraced it (like Sasuke is doing now), and because of it, he's INCREDIBLY FREAKING powerful (He can total an island with ONE punch). It's not an additional source of power, like the Kyuubi, but just him using his maximum potential. In order to even be able to possess it, you need an incredible will to win (like Sasuke, over his brother). And because of that, only a select few are able to even have the capacity to do it. Akuma and Ryu fit that, because they just want to become strong. Only, Akuma doesn't mind killing others to further improve his skill, whereas, Ryu has hesitation, making him unable to really tap into it, like Akuma can.

I see Sasuke now, as a version of Ryu, on the verge of giving into that power, and losing humanity in order to accomplish his goal. When Oro said that 9/10 people are able to wield such power, I assume that he meant that their minds have a big part in it. Can they truly be able to kill another? Will they give up their own sanity for their goals? Notice his followers had no problem killing/hurting other people. And the same w/Sasuke. He's gradually giving into that angst and resentment, ultimately fueling his drive to kill his brother, thus sacrificing humanity to do it.

Man, I feel like a geek, explaining that.

Uchiha Barles
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:26 AM
Holy shit dude. He didn't complain about anything. He was responding to a statement I made and used his knowledge of japanese and that fact that inane *possibly* made an error (as a matter of fact, not of bitching). Why are racking at this guys nuts?

Danik
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:30 AM
We are about to watch the ultimate fight, level 2 sasuke vs kiuby naruto, I pray to god they beat the crap out of each other before kakashi stop them both, I wanna see a winner and a loser... damn you kishimoto, you better not ruin it.

Hotsuma
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:31 AM
Damn... It looked like you said Kirby Naruto for a minute..

jing
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:39 AM
i wanna see itachi come and own everybody, then kakashi dies protecting Naruto. once sasuke sees that, he will go berzerk and...........FAINT.

Lenas
Sat, 09-18-2004, 04:45 AM
Feel like a geek all you want for explaining that, Hotsuma, but I feel like a geek for enjoying it i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

AlbinoFury
Sat, 09-18-2004, 05:02 AM
all i have to say is that in dbz it was always whoever powered up last won, so hopefully this doesnt default give sasuke the win. hopefully kishimoto at least keeps some ingenuity there.

Terracosmo
Sat, 09-18-2004, 05:29 AM
Is there anything wrong with feeling like a geek? i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

Trip
Sat, 09-18-2004, 05:46 AM
nah being a geek is cool i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Inazuma Kami
Sat, 09-18-2004, 06:14 AM
That's a good moment to introduce some new party .


Extra ?: And what's wrong with Neji ? Trying to see trough a Konoha Island Mix ?

Assertn
Sat, 09-18-2004, 06:19 AM
"what the..?? the chakra itself is...."
"the chakra moved differently by itself"
"it seems the chakra has its own will and it can move by itself"

yes.....good calls inane -_-

Terracosmo
Sat, 09-18-2004, 07:22 AM
lmao @ Neji beach party

RasenDori
Sat, 09-18-2004, 08:14 AM
that gave me a good laugh

Eurasian
Sat, 09-18-2004, 09:39 AM
that blue hawaiian shirt looked great on him.

ilabb
Sat, 09-18-2004, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by: Hotsuma
Damn... It looked like you said Kirby Naruto for a minute..

I laughed so hard when I read that XD

About this level of Kirby-- err Kyuubi Naruto, I think it's cool that it seems that Naruto does the physical movement while the Kyuubi does the attacking, it's the ultimate tag-team!

kyubisrage
Sat, 09-18-2004, 10:39 AM
From what i read I can pretty much tell kakashi is going to be in the next chapter.
Kakashi will probably stop the fight, if not naruto will kick sasukes ass. Also what makes us so sure that naruto is in control he hasn't talked at all, the only he looked like he might of been in control when sasuke said im not hurt.

Hotsuma
Sat, 09-18-2004, 10:48 AM
Kakashi is gonna die in 232.

G-Pong
Sat, 09-18-2004, 10:51 AM
Yeah and Naruto can take Kakashi's Sharingan...i/expressions/rolleye.gif

Eurasian
Sat, 09-18-2004, 10:55 AM
when naruto fought haku in his kyuubi mode, he was in control. he couldn't punch haku when he saw his face. from that i think naruto is somewhat in control.

Kef
Sat, 09-18-2004, 11:04 AM
I hate the fact there's only 1 chapter a week i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

Nine Tailed Demon
Sat, 09-18-2004, 11:39 AM
Anyone know where I can get the inane chapter not from narutofan, pages are missing from there version. Can someone upload it to yousendit.com for me, it's on 3.90mb anyway

Winged Dancer
Sat, 09-18-2004, 11:48 AM
Power to the geeks!!
And Neji in that hawaian shirt looked too great to be true. I laughed even harder than when I saw Sasuke in his lvl. 2 style.

BTW, am I the only girl around the forum? Just out of curiosity?

?igma
Sat, 09-18-2004, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Power to the geeks!!
And Neji in that hawaian shirt looked too great to be true. I laughed even harder than when I saw Sasuke in his lvl. 2 style.

BTW, am I the only girl around the forum? Just out of curiosity?

Most girls usually convince me of the fact that anime is a boys-only thing =)

anyhow .. whats your opinion on dbz vs Naruto ?i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif, If Hotsuma is a girl and you agree on the "dbz equals Naruto " , then I'd say the girls are the only sane ones...

jing
Sat, 09-18-2004, 12:15 PM
No, youve got Erusaian and KitKat.

Jman
Sat, 09-18-2004, 12:22 PM
chapter was cool. the action has gotten better and better over the past few chapters. i'd like to see kakashi cope with putting an end to naruto v sasuke without killin them both

Winged Dancer
Sat, 09-18-2004, 12:28 PM
Erusaian and KitKat, ok, but....

Hotsuma is a girl??
Edit: Nope he isn't! Now where did you get such a silly idea?



My opinion on DBZ vs. Naruto?
Well, Naruto hasn't used around ten episodes in "Ten seconds for the Earth to be destroyed", nor has it had five episodes with two characters' attacks colliding and forming bigass balls of power that have to be pushed by each character while screaming as if they were having problems at the toilet.

However, the power level-up thing is very very similar, and Sasuke does act like Vegeta, and his new hair-do is the most DBZ-ish thing in Naruto so far. So yeah, they're smiliar, which might be good or bad depending on whether Kishimoto decides to destroy the Earth and/or kill Naruto and bring him back with an halo over his head.

jing
Sat, 09-18-2004, 12:39 PM
That's because he is a male.

Winged Dancer
Sat, 09-18-2004, 12:42 PM
I knew it. Therefore I'm so gonna edit my other message.

Nine Tailed Demon
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:29 PM
winged dancer, since your the only girl here which means everyone will read your messages now could you ask if there is an alternative to narutofan.com to get chapter 231 by inane. Irc is not an option, thank you...

Mr.X
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:31 PM
cool chapter. predictable, but still good.

Winged Dancer
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:35 PM
To Nine Tailed Demon - What's wrong with Narutofan? Chapter 231 is right

http://www.narutofan.com/index.php/content-multimedia,manga%20volume%2026%20to%2030

there.

If not.... try http://www.narutochuushin.com/main.php .

Nine Tailed Demon
Sat, 09-18-2004, 01:46 PM
I downloaded it 4 times from all the mirrors and each version 5 pages were missing, you put it up and it works. Mucho Gracias senorita winged dancer, hope I spelled it right in spanish. Good chapter...

Terracosmo
Sat, 09-18-2004, 04:18 PM
Girls? Sane? HERESY!

Winged Dancer
Sat, 09-18-2004, 05:29 PM
Girls? Sane? You mean you haven't met any real girls. We are usually very crazy. Sometimes obsessive. SPECIALLY yaoi-obsessed girls. They make me afraid, and I'm one of the weirdest persons I've met....

Hotsuma
Sat, 09-18-2004, 09:35 PM
I'm a man, thank you very much. All man.

Eurasian
Sat, 09-18-2004, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Girls? Sane? You mean you haven't met any real girls. We are usually very crazy. Sometimes obsessive. SPECIALLY yaoi-obsessed girls. They make me afraid, and I'm one of the weirdest persons I've met....

yaoi obsessed girls. it ruins everything.

Hotsuma
Sat, 09-18-2004, 09:54 PM
Yaoi sucks.

But on the flip side, I find incestual relationships in anime quite intriguing. (Kanako x Keitaro, Sarah x Setsuna to name two off the top of my head)

Winged Dancer
Sat, 09-18-2004, 10:29 PM
How about Neji x Hinata? Its a favorite! (not)
Even better!! Sasuke x Itachi!! That's guaranteed puke!!

I, being a girl, shall leave my opinions on yaoi out of this.

But, Naruto yaoi sucks major. Really, really does.

Hotsuma
Sat, 09-18-2004, 11:32 PM
I actually don't mind Hinata and Neji, truthfully.

Eurasian
Sun, 09-19-2004, 12:53 AM
neji and hinata x_x

in angel sanctuary, it wasn't only sara and setsuna.

Winged Dancer
Sun, 09-19-2004, 12:57 AM
I'm partial to Neji x Hinata.
I'm icked by Sasuke x Itachi.

http://www.aksarah.com/naruto/fun/hyp_16_sw_inku.jpg

Eurasian
Sun, 09-19-2004, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
I'm icked by Sasuke x Itachi.

i am too. it's not even like they have a good relationship. sasuke and itachi...xx_xx it gets double x's.

Winged Dancer
Sun, 09-19-2004, 01:01 AM
Yep.... it's often that kind of "I rape you but you like it lolzors!!!111" thing. Which sucks.

InnerSakuraChan
Sun, 09-19-2004, 03:23 AM
yay, another good chapter.
Though, i am getting a bit annoyed with all of the DBZish leveling up. not that I watched DBZ in the first place.

hey, i'm a girl. And I hate Yaoi.
so, there are FOUR girls on the forums. haha.

I have just been dead on the forums most of the summer. Also, because I got annoyed with naruto and stoped watching for a while. But, i've seen the light again.

I know what you mean about the translations, Winged Dancer, but I always figure it's an error on my part. I like to read and watch RAWs, to keep my Japanese up, and then wait for the scanlations/fansubs to come in, to see if I was right. but, it bugs me when they translate things weirdly.

dunno. I'm tierd, and can't sleep, this posts is probably incoherent. yay, inconherantcy!!

Terracosmo
Sun, 09-19-2004, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Girls? Sane? You mean you haven't met any real girls. We are usually very crazy. Sometimes obsessive. SPECIALLY yaoi-obsessed girls. They make me afraid, and I'm one of the weirdest persons I've met....

I have met too many "real" girls, hence my doubtful post regarding the sanity. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

?igma
Sun, 09-19-2004, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Girls? Sane? You mean you haven't met any real girls. We are usually very crazy. Sometimes obsessive. SPECIALLY yaoi-obsessed girls. They make me afraid, and I'm one of the weirdest persons I've met....

no it was a contradiction in terminis

Winged Dancer
Sun, 09-19-2004, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by: Terracosmo


Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Girls? Sane? You mean you haven't met any real girls. We are usually very crazy. Sometimes obsessive. SPECIALLY yaoi-obsessed girls. They make me afraid, and I'm one of the weirdest persons I've met....

I have met too many "real" girls, hence my doubtful post regarding the sanity.

Point there. On the other hand, while I agree that us girls are completely crazy, I'll add that guys are weird beyond understanding. So its no wonder there are problems between genders.

BTW Terra, I visited your deviant-art page... you make some pretty cool stuff! Like the Final Fantasy-parody animation.
And I'll let my most fememnine side emerge now - if thats you on your webcam, you look quite fine. Yep. Now shutting the female up, bye.

mugen-x
Sun, 09-19-2004, 11:15 AM
i dont like how powerful sasuke is becoming i know they need a rival for naruto but be serious if a curse seal makes him so powerful then how powerful is oro

Masamune
Sun, 09-19-2004, 12:31 PM
Girls , you mean those other types of humans in anime?

Where'd they come up with that idea anyway.

crazy ppl


topic: nice chapter

PSJ
Sun, 09-19-2004, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by: mugen-x
i dont like how powerful sasuke is becoming i know they need a rival for naruto but be serious if a curse seal makes him so powerful then how powerful is oro

oro most likely dont have a cursed seal. there are negative effects, now im not entirely clear on those but im certain someone else is.

DraGunZer0
Sun, 09-19-2004, 11:12 PM
Why can't the anime be this far along... ::still wants to see chidori vs. rasengan animated::

jing
Sun, 09-19-2004, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by: DraGunZer0
Why can't the anime be this far along... ::still wants to see chidori vs. rasengan animated::

Go watch an episode of Dragon Ball Z then, I'm sure its in every episode.

Hakeem_21
Mon, 09-20-2004, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by: mugen-x
i dont like how powerful sasuke is becoming i know they need a rival for naruto but be serious if a curse seal makes him so powerful then how powerful is oro


I dont like either how powerful the curse seal makes Sasuke if wee dont see the down side of it soon it would very lame.

Also Naruto cant lose after the latest kyubi powers cause if a little curse seal beats so much kyubi power than kyubi is not what we thougt.

Terracosmo
Mon, 09-20-2004, 05:24 AM
@Winged Dancer:

Can't deny the weirdness part either. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif Thanks for the comments on my work. Yes, that's me on the cam. Thank you again. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif