Elfen Lied

[Psyke]

Just saw it. Good episode to fill in on about how Lucy was captured, and showed us how bonded Nana was to Lucy. Is this the last we will ever see of them?

[Darkcarnage]

the elfen lied extra eps explains why she not killed that one guy at teh start when she could fo easily. i liked it alot and would hope anyone that watch this anime watch teh extra one asap

[Coyote]

So was that OVA preview just for the extra episode? Unfortunatly I cant get the preview to play on my home PC or Id see if the scenes match.

[Board of Command]

Just get the OVA itself, it's worth every second of your wait.

[pyro-manic]

OK, just finished watching this and I thought it was very good. Pretty dark story, and good characters. Nice....

[Board of Command]

I was browsing Newgrounds and came across this flash video.
link (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/243164)
It's not related to Elfen Lied, but it uses Lilium as the backbone of the video. It's interesting to say the least.

[Death13a]

It funny as I after watching Lilium on newgrounds i found about Elfen Lied and I liked it alot.

[Terracosmo]

The Lilium flash movie is sweet.

[The Heretic Azazel]

Fuck FMA, THIS SHOW KICKS FUCKIN ASS.

[Darknodin]

don't curse FMA... i think FMA is better... even if i liked Elfen Lied...

[FelixZeroAlastor]

That was an awsome Lilum flash movie.

Also does anyone know where I can get translated versions of the Elfen Lied manga?

[The Heretic Azazel]

here i think (http://www.tidwah.net/index.php?type=release&manga=5)

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Thanks.

[XanBcoo]

wtf that flash movie was disturbing 0.o

...love teh music though. Makes me wanna watch Elfein Leid again. I'm also gonna echo what people said earlier in this thread: This show is a Konomini clone (what with the 2 cute, pink-haired, killer girls) - only much better.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

What is Konomini?

[Munsu]

This Ugly and Beautiful World

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
This Ugly and Beautiful World

Eh. Do you mean literally?

[XanBcoo]

No. It's the name of an anime. It's japanese name is Kono Minikuku wo Utsukushi Sekai - but fans call it Konomini for short.

[Lucifus]

Boy...you people sure love weird things........

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Originally posted by: XanBcoo
No. It's the name of an anime. It's japanese name is Kono Minikuku wo Utsukushi Sekai - but fans call it Konomini for short.

Oh...thanks much.

[el_boss]

Booooobies! Hehe seriously though I was pleasantly surprised that there excist such dark and "adult" anime shows. I liked that it switched between beeing funny and lighthearted and then all of a sudden extreme gore, blood and limbs all over the place. Everything in this show felt necessary though. I mean they didn't put in the nudity and gore just for the hell of it, it had a purpose.

It was a little wierd that Kouta's cousin had the hots for him. I don't know, maybe cousin love isn't a wierd thing in Japan.

The best part of the show was when Lucy ripped apart the kids that killed the dog, those brats had it coming.

@XanBcoo: Actually there were 3 pink-haires killer girls in Elfen Lied.

Sorry for the bump.

[KaosSinner]

This show is so FUC^ING AWESOME. Really dark anime just like everybody says. I wonder if there are any more episodes coz the last one left me hung up. I really wanted to know if it was Neu the one appearing right at the end just when the clock started to work. I suppose it was her but I wanna know anyway.

This anime really stroke my inner chord...sniff.....sniff.

[The Heretic Azazel]

That was the intended ending, we are only left to assume that was Nyu's shadow.Also, find the 14th episode, released seperately, if you didnt already, it explains some backstory

[Kraco]

This is one of the best series in my list. A remarkable show altogether. The end was also very appropriate. This kind of series doesn't even need a clear Hollywood ending.

[KaosSinner]

I think I did download episode fourteen( the one button on my keyboards gone crazy). Was it the one which Nana starts to live in Nyus house and then she intends to kill her but ended up being really good friends with her? That does explain some of her background. That scene when her friend was shot.....sniff.....sniff.....my tears really weld up.

[The Heretic Azazel]

Yeah that's it. Actually, does anyone have a link for it?

I wish this series could have continued. I love stuff like this..

[KaosSinner]

If you liked Elfen Lied Id recommend you watch Aishteruze Baby and Air. They are also love stories those that make you sniff....sniff you know. You can find them here : http://a.scarywater.net/lunar/#o199

[The Heretic Azazel]

Is the love incestuous and pedophilic?

Because if it is, I'm down!

[Kraco]

Originally posted by: KaosSinner
If you liked Elfen Lied Id recommend you watch Aishteruze Baby and Air.[/L]

Elfen Lied and Aishiteru ze Baby..? Uhhuh... Both are shows that I really love, but those two aren't really similar at all. They both do have strong emotional connections between characters, perhaps, but that's hardly a specific similarity. Perhaps you could say a person who likes Elfen Lied is likely to like Aishiteru ze Baby, but that's too advanced psychology for me.

Air was just a weird series. Not bad at all, I kind of liked it. It does have some mystery aspect like Elfen Lied, and some tragic fates. Well, perhaps there is some slight similarity (certainly more than between Elfen Lied and Aishiteru ze Baby).

[KaosSinner]

I mean, they are animes based on emotions, and love is the main issue in these 3 animes. Its true Elfen Lied is a very tragic story. Its a really dark and cruel world with a few "monsters" wanting to be loved. The cruel side of the story makes the love even more intense. Air and Aishteruze baby, on the other hand, are all.....lets say closer to us. They focus more on everyday life, although Air does have some mystery traits. You should enjoy Air and Aishteruze baby. Ive convinced many classmates and friends to watch them ( they didnt even know of the existence of animes) and I havnt heard of anyone not enjoying those two animes. Trust me, give it a try and you wont regret it.

[Ryllharu]

Too be honest, there really isn't anything that similar to Elfen Lied. It's about as far from any series done before it due to the amount of violence with the romance that's piled into it as well.

The closest analog I can think of would be Speed Grapher. That has the same sort of groteque violence and disturbed individuals that Elfen Lied had. Berserk would also be another series with that same vein of violence and disturbing relationships involved. Mai Hime toward the end had some similar elements, but no where near the scale that these two did.

If you're implying in any way that people who'd like Ai Baby would like Elfen Lied necessary, as you stated the inverse, there's no way. On your same lines of thought, a more mature series like Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien or Saikano would be more appropriate.

[aznroyale]

this series is really great

[Board of Command]

Originally posted by: Ryllharu
Too be honest, there really isn't anything that similar to Elfen Lied. It's about as far from any series done before it due to the amount of violence with the romance that's piled into it as well.

The closest analog I can think of would be Speed Grapher. That has the same sort of groteque violence and disturbed individuals that Elfen Lied had. Berserk would also be another series with that same vein of violence and disturbing relationships involved. Mai Hime toward the end had some similar elements, but no where near the scale that these two did.

If you're implying in any way that people who'd like Ai Baby would like Elfen Lied necessary, as you stated the inverse, there's no way. On your same lines of thought, a more mature series like Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien or Saikano would be more appropriate.
I'd have to say no series is like Elfen Lied. Speed Grapher is pretty gruesome but the theme is very different. KGNE is fairly close in some ways, but it's also very life-like. Saikano has a happy ending imo, while Elfen Lied has a very sad and sympathetic ending.

Elfen Lied is truly unique in terms of what it brings as a whole package. Its individual aspects have many flaws, but the way everything is presented is what makes it amazing.

[The Heretic Azazel]

Uhh, hello Kaos Sinner, I didn't intend on something emotionally similar, I want more disembowelment and more tittys and more limbs flying and more gratuitous nudity.

Nyuu is the biggest cocktease EVER. And she never showed her patch. Typical.

[KaosSinner]

Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Uhh, hello Kaos Sinner, I didn't intend on something emotionally similar, I want more disembowelment and more tittys and more limbs flying and more gratuitous nudity.

Nyuu is the biggest cocktease EVER. And she never showed her patch. Typical.

In that case you better go for speed grapher. Its sort of a bit similar. Its pretty disturbing, limbs flying everywhere, blood all over the place and warm sweetness between some of the characters.

True Elfen Lied is unique, better than speed grapher for my taste, and that lilium song....I love it. I whistle it everyday on my way to the office.

[Board of Command]

Lilium sucks unless you watch Elfen Lied. It's the show that makes the song beautiful.

[Kraco]

Well, I doubt it sucks even without the memory of the opening video (and the general feeling of the show), but I agree to a certain degree; having the series in memory certainly makes it several hundred percents better.

[XanBcoo]

I laughed when I first saw "The Kiss" by Gustav Klimt. The Elfen Leid OP made sense after that.

I haven't finished this series yet. Gotta get the dvds from my friend.

About Kota x Yuka, I wasn't suprised as I've seen quite a bit of incest in anime (some of it just implied however). Though personally I don't see anything wrong with having a relationship with at least a second cousin or cousin-once-removed. There's nothing genetically wrong with it, a lot of it is just social taboo.

[el_boss]

Originally posted by: XanBcoo
About Kota x Yuka, I wasn't suprised as I've seen quite a bit of incest in anime (some of it just implied however). Though personally I don't see anything wrong with having a relationship with at least a second cousin or cousin-once-removed. There's nothing genetically wrong with it, a lot of it is just social taboo.

Off topic: The closer two persons genes are to eachother the more chanse there is that the offspring will not be normal. But since attraction is natures way of telling us if someone is a good match, if you are attracted to your cousin, it means that you would probably have ok children. But there is probably still some risks involved.

On topic: I tought it was really messed up how Yuka would treat Kouta even though she knew what had happened to his family.

[Munsu]

No, attraction is nature's way of telling us we are horny.

[Kraco]

Originally posted by: XanBcoo
About Kota x Yuka, I wasn't suprised as I've seen quite a bit of incest in anime (some of it just implied however).

Yeah. When you look at anime, it seems like being cousins means absolutely nothing. Well, to be honest, it almost looks like that the girl automatically thinks she has better chances than anybody else...

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Lilium sucks unless you watch Elfen Lied. It's the show that makes the song beautiful.

WTF are you saying? Lilium is a badass song on its own.

But the show does make the song that much better, though.

[el_boss]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
No, attraction is nature's way of telling us we are horny.
Shouldn't it be: Hornyness is natures way of telling us there is attraction?

[KaosSinner]

Its pretty normal for cousins to love each other inside animes, dont know why, japanese are fucking crazy

[el_boss]

Originally posted by: KaosSinner
Its pretty normal for cousins to love each other inside animes, dont know why, japanese are fucking crazy
Maybe they aren't "blood" cousins. Maybe it's just a term they use like aniki which doesn't have to mean big brother.

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: el_boss


Originally posted by: KaosSinner
Its pretty normal for cousins to love each other inside animes, dont know why, japanese are fucking crazy
Maybe they aren't "blood" cousins. Maybe it's just a term they use like aniki which doesn't have to mean big brother.

Nah, I'm pretty sure they are. It was a shocker for me though. It was the first time I've seen incest in anime.

[XanBcoo]

Relevent to Elfen Leid: Nana's Everyday Life (http://manga.clone-army.org/nana.php?page=1&lang=)

I posted this in the webcomics topic. I recommend it to anyone who's seen Elfen Leid. It also references Gunslinger Girl. It's pretty short but really good. Go read it.

[Munsu]

I'm sure someone posted those comics here before, good to see a link to the original site though...

[KaosSinner]

Nanas everyday life was so funny. I really laughed my head off. Nanas so cuuuute. Id love to have her as a little sister.

About that incest thing. Im chinese so I pretty much know how the language concepts work as chinese and Japanese are similar in some ways. Normally for people who are older than you by lets say up to 8 years or so, you call them older brother or older sister, which is onichan, onesan, aniki. But in this case I think they are real cousins. This is incest, Im copletely sure. When you know a persons from your family, even if that person is the most beautiful youve ever seen its impossible for you to fall in love, coz the very thought that shes a cousin just changes your feelings ( or thats what I think). I think Japanese are totally nuts, brilliant people but theyre crazy as hell.

[XanBcoo]

When you know a persons from your family, even if that person is the most beautiful youve ever seen its impossible for you to fall in love, coz the very thought that shes a cousin just changes your feelings ( or thats what I think).
Well, that might be true for you, but not for others. Your theory doesn't hold a lot of water. As weird as they can be, incestuous relationships aren't exclusive to Japan, I'm afraid.

[el_boss]

Originally posted by: XanBcoo


When you know a persons from your family, even if that person is the most beautiful youve ever seen its impossible for you to fall in love, coz the very thought that shes a cousin just changes your feelings ( or thats what I think).
Well, that might be true for you, but not for others. Your theory doesn't hold a lot of water. As weird as they can be, incestuous relationships aren't exclusive to Japan, I'm afraid.
I actually associate incestous relationships more with america (the south) then Japan or any other country for that matter. But I don't really think this is a fair image of the southern states, but it is the one we get from movies and such. What I'm saying is don't believe everything you see or hear in movies or otherwise.

[DeathScytheHCv2]

All I have to say is that in my 12 years of seeing anime, I haven't encountered anything like this. It was a pleasant change from all those love stories with happy endings.
I personally don't like seeing meaningless blood and gore. However, like someone said before you need it here. It is like in Noir you have blood only when is necesary to the plot not just because.

[aznimperialx]

i wanted to sucide when i saw the ending

[DeathScytheHCv2]

Originally posted by: aznimperialx
i wanted to sucide when i saw the ending


Of Noir or Elfen Lied?

[KaosSinner]

I dont agree with incest anyway, not that Im totally against it, just that its something weird in my opinion. It might become something normal like homosexuals, but I think Ill never get used to the idea.

The ending in elfen lied was the best ending it could have. I loved it loved it loved it.

[Kraco]

Originally posted by: KaosSinner
I dont agree with incest anyway, not that Im totally against it, just that its something weird in my opinion. It might become something normal like homosexuals, but I think Ill never get used to the idea.

I doubt it will ever become normal, because no amount of public acceptation changes the fact it multiplies the statistical risk of getting genetically defective offspring. I bet that's the original reason it became frowned upon, even if our ancestors had only a very vague idea of genetics.

[DeathScytheHCv2]

Originally posted by: Kraco


Originally posted by: KaosSinner
I dont agree with incest anyway, not that Im totally against it, just that its something weird in my opinion. It might become something normal like homosexuals, but I think Ill never get used to the idea.

I doubt it will ever become normal, because no amount of public acceptation changes the fact it multiplies the statistical risk of getting genetically defective offspring. I bet that's the original reason it became frowned upon, even if our ancestors had only a very vague idea of genetics.

I know that inbreeding causes genetically defective offspring.

However, love knows no such boundaries

[KaosSinner]

You may be right. These are really exceptional cases anyway. I dont think it happens very often so its not a big deal. Ive heard of many stories in which two people love each other and after some time they find out they are far cousins or something. Dont think it really happens in real life, but stories like those are quite sad. Even if you become a couple, adopting is always an option.

[Kraco]

Well, in Elfen Lied's case, we might say that Kota and Nyu's dalliance might have produced far more weird offspring than Kota and Yuka's!

[KaosSinner]

Originally posted by: Kraco
Well, in Elfen Lied's case, we might say that Kota and Nyu's dalliance might have produced far more weird offspring than Kota and Yuka's!

Lol. interesting point. But the story ends quite nicely, although you can consider it unfinished if you think about it. Who will be koutas wife? coz its not clear at all. I dont want to spoil so I wont mention anything specific

[Board of Command]

Society doesn't make incest something we frown upon. Incest itself makes society frown upon it due to the risk factor in offspring. I don't think there is any species that reproduce through incest. It's not a social thing, it's a instinctual thing. It's built into our genes that incest is bad.

I think incestous feelings are okay because if you like someone, you like someone. But for your children's sake don't do it.

[XanBcoo]

I know it doesn't make a difference, but the golden lion tamrin and some species of marsupials reproduce by incest at times. Of course this isn't a natural thing, and happens when some families are isolated because of deforrestation...

[Board of Command]

Yeah, I meant by nature, species aren't supposed to incest.

[KaosSinner]

We are not animals so we can. And we can adopt another baby anyway so theres no problem to it. This has gotten totally off topic.

[el_boss]

Originally posted by: el_boss
Off topic: The closer two persons genes are to eachother the more chance there is that the offspring will not be normal. But since attraction is natures way of telling us if someone is a good match, if you are attracted to your cousin, it means that you would probably have ok children. But there is probably still some risks involved.
Yes that seems like very good acessment. You are extremely smart el_boss i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[KaosSinner]

If you are attrected to ur cousin its because you think shes hot or you like her personality. This has nothing to do with genetics

[Kraco]

Originally posted by: el_boss


Originally posted by: el_boss
Off topic: The closer two persons genes are to eachother the more chance there is that the offspring will not be normal. But since attraction is natures way of telling us if someone is a good match, if you are attracted to your cousin, it means that you would probably have ok children. But there is probably still some risks involved.
Yes that seems like very good acessment. You are extremely smart el_boss

Heh. Yeah. In truth, it's not altogether revealed what are those genes (or corresponding gene products rather) that you might sense in the object of interest. Much of the research has concentrated on MHC gene alleles. These Major Histocompatibility Complex genes practically define our individuality on cellular level. On these are based, as the name suggests, whether a cell is recognized as belonging to the body of the host or not by the immune defence. The closer you are related to another person, the higher your MHC similarity (though only clones and identical twins have the exact same composition).

In many experiments animals have preferred partners with quite different MHCs. However, some experiments have also produced opposite results (with fishes, if memory serves).

Still, whatever are the gene products being sensed, they may not always automatically represent the differences or similarities in the multitude of genes we have. So, an attraction to a relative doesn't mean it's safe to reproduce with him/her. Besides, artificial perfumes and such act as counter measures against the natural instincts.

[dragonrage]

Interesting anime I must say. Tales of tradegy, love and life in general mixed in together with a unique storyline. It was very intriguing, moving and satisfying. It lefted me longing for more.
Talk about cruelity, madness and horror combined. Definately something i liked watching.

[ody]

I want to download this but it only offers it in a 1-13 episode package. But on Animenfo there is 14 episodes only as a DVD? Do I need to watch the 14th episode for closure ?

[Death13a]

episode 14 is something like episode 10 and just expands story a little but still extra.

[Board of Command]

Episode 14 is somewhere between episode 10 and 12 in terms of the overall timeline. Half of the episode is a flashback that might help your understanding of the first episode.

[ody]

I just finished the anime and it's the worst anime I've ever finished. The characters are so unrealistic that it insults the audience's intelligence.

The underlying tones of sexual attraction amongst the characters was getting annoying. Every single female blushing at the most minuscule sign of affection was just over-the-top. The incestuous story between Kouta and Yuka was WTF?

Not merely enough character development even in a 14-episode anime. Kouta's background is believable but Yuka's attraction for him as childhood friends is still unexplained. She just had the hots for him ever since they were little?

[Kraco]

Elfen Lied is a very popular show with high ratings everywhere you find it. However, as with all shows that have character and individuality and thus can theoretically reach any manner of heights, it will eventually also divide opinions. Only those shows that try to cater to everybody gain uniform responses, though they inevitably also fall into the gray mass of averages.

There's really nothing peculiar there. Not every person likes the same stuff. And that's vital for any form of art to thrive.

[ody]

Elfen Lied is a very popular show with high ratings everywhere you find it. However, as with all shows that have character and individuality and thus can theoretically reach any manner of heights, it will eventually also divide opinions. Only those shows that try to cater to everybody gain uniform responses, though they inevitably also fall into the gray mass of averages.

There's really nothing peculiar there. Not every person likes the same stuff. And that's vital for any form of art to thrive.

Good post. Better than that jerk who impugned me because I didn't enjoy Elfen Lied as much as everyone else. What does elfen even mean?

[Munsu]

It means "Elven" in German. The title means "Elven Song". Or maybe "Elf Song". Maybe it's Dutch.

[ody]

Erm, I guess it has to do with the music box that Kouta owned but other than that I don't see how the title pertains to the story.

[animus]

Maybe it's just a term for Diclonius's or those with horns. Though they never actually use that term. Maybe it's just like a way of indicating there's another race, that's not human that's capable of doing incredible things.

[Ryllharu]

Just curious, why do you feel the title has to pertain to the story?

Bleach (well, I guess Ichigo's hair), Trigun, Honey and Clover, Pani Poni Dash, Utawarerumono, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, etc, many titles don't have an overt or direct connection to their contents.

'Silpelit' is also the name of a character of an opera by the author of the Elfenlied song, Eduard Mörike, also mentioned in that song itself. References to him appear only in the manga. In the anime, it's what the Director calls the infertile members of Lucy's kind.

[animus]

Just curious, why do you feel the title has to pertain to the story?

Bleach (well, I guess Ichigo's hair), Trigun, Honey and Clover, Pani Poni Dash, Utawarerumono, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, etc, many titles don't have an overt or direct connection to their contents.

'Silpelit' is also the name of a character of an opera by the author of the Elfenlied song, Eduard Mörike, also mentioned in that song itself. References to him appear only in the manga. In the anime, it's what the Director calls the infertile members of Lucy's kind.

I don't remember where I heard this but Bleach is actually a favorite of Kubo's. I can't remember if it was the name of a band or a song.

[ody]

Just curious, why do you feel the title has to pertain to the story?

Bleach (well, I guess Ichigo's hair), Trigun, Honey and Clover, Pani Poni Dash, Utawarerumono, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, etc, many titles don't have an overt or direct connection to their contents.

'Silpelit' is also the name of a character of an opera by the author of the Elfenlied song, Eduard Mörike, also mentioned in that song itself. References to him appear only in the manga. In the anime, it's what the Director calls the infertile members of Lucy's kind.

I haven't watched anime as much as other members here and every anime I've seen the title usually plays a part in the anime.

But I see your point.

[shinta|hikari]

Though it was originally named after the mangaka's favorite band's albums, Honey and Clover (the title) has a relation to the ending of the 2nd season. Im not sure about the manga though.

[Ziggy]

Elfen Lied is definitely german and I would translate it "Elven Song" too.
The title comes from the german poem "Elfenlied" of Eduard Mörike and it was used for a song too as far as i know.

[WRX Sti]

anyone know where to dl this, i lost my dvd of it :(

[Board of Command]

anyone know where to dl this, i lost my dvd of it :(
Search for "Elfen Lied" on any torrent search engine and you'll get tons of hits. I suggest you get the ones released by anime.fin

[Mizuchi]

As the title says...

It took me 3 bottles of bawls, but i did it.

Don't get me wrong, im not making this thread to discuss elven lied, because theres already a thread for that. I just made this thread to tell people that I watched the entire series in one sitting and that i was extremely grossed, sickened, amazed, and inspired all in one, seeing as how this is the general discussion part of the forum and the best place to post this.

I am confused about the ending though... What happened?

I also dont understand, if the general director was a diclonius himself, what the fuck is going on? Also, what did she mean by in 5 years, most people will be diclonius's...?

Sorry if i didn't process all of the information given. Again, I watched the entire thing in one sitting... lol.

My opinion on the end is that, seeing as how after the bullets were fired, she still moved her vectors, showing that she was alive, but then it showed her ear flying off. I think that either a bullet hit it and it flew off or she ripped it off herself, and now finally she can live among humans without being teased.

And I think the whole moral of the story was that dicloniuses(SP?) arent born to kill humans. They are just born with very hott tempers, and humans are what caused the dicloniuses to want to kill them, through theyre very mean and hurtful nature of needing to put others down to make themselves feel better.

I think this moral is meant for all the school shootings that go down, or should be meant for that atleast. Those kids arent killers at heart, they only kill because of the pain others have brought upon them. :(

Maybe another moral is learn to forgive? I bitched out my ex-girlfriend to the point of making her cry because of the fact that she cheated on me over vacation, but this dude forgived this girl after she killed his family... Maybe I should re-evaluate my values?

[Zinobi]

I still don't know your reasoning for posting this in the General Discussion forum.
And why exactly did you need all that energy drink? Its only 14 episodes if you watched the OVA. Seems like a waste.... kind of like thread...

[Ryllharu]

@Mizuchi

If you really want to know what happened, and what a lot of it all means, I suggest you pick up the manga. It continues where the anime leaves off, and adds a little bit more (though mostly unncessary) that the anime left out.

It explains the role of the dicloni [proper pluralization] what the director is after, more on Lucy, more with Nana's dark side, and continues the cycle of death surrounding the two.

[Mizuchi]

Well i dont really enjoy reading manga... I find it kinda boring and not nearly as exciting as watching things animated. Could anyone if they had the time PS me the answers to my questions and what happens in the manga? Thank you.

[Ryllharu]

Not possible to do in PM really, there was a lot going on afterward. Moreover, the manga isn't done being scanlated, so there's a good deal more left. I can answer a few that should have been clear from the anime alone.

if the general director was a diclonius himself, what is going on?
There's literally no way to explain this one without a 5 page synopses of about 9 chapters of the manga. The anime barely even touched on what he's doing and what he intends.

what did she mean by in 5 years, most people will be dicloni
At the rate Lucy and her infertile spin-offs are infecting people like the Director, and other men/women they come across, most children will be born dicloni.

I am confused about the ending though... What happened?
Both of Lucy's horns were broken off. The theory of scientists is that Dicloni can't use their vectors without their horns. The manga delves more into specifics. As for who it was at the door, that is left up to you. That scene is not shown in the manga, but the story continues so you'd figure it out.

Dicloni are meant to kill humans, especially Lucy's infertile spin-offs. This was explicitly stated in the anime. They will wipe out the entire human race, and Lucy will be the Eve of the new species. The hyperviolent ones will die off as they are incapable of birth. Lucy is the only one who has become violent as a result of her environment. Nana become docile for the same reason, though it is clear she has her own inbred violent streak, seen briefly in the anime.

[Archangel]

Well i just finished watching this and it was a great series

I enjoyed the story, the violence, the complexity, the characters ... makes me think that they just don't make good anime anymore ( this season is somehow not as good as one could expect people )

I'm thinking of reading the manga to fully understand the story, but so far i can't get over on how incredibly bad the art is!

And gthe fact that i cant find any decent cleans isn't helping either

[Ryllharu]

I'm thinking of reading the manga to fully understand the story, but so far i can't get over on how incredibly bad the art is!
I wouldn't really recommend it. The open ending in the anime is a lot better than the closed ending of the manga, the end of each plays out very differently. The art really isn't that bad (I've definitely seen worse), the problem is the plot itself.

There is gratuitous ecchi in the manga. I'm not just saying it like prudish people might for a large number of series, it is actually out of place. There is a character introduced that has no bearing whatsoever on the plot, merely to fulfill an obscure fetish only for the sake of being there. The plot and character development wouldn't change one iota without her.

So do yourself a favor, and just live happily with the anime. The manga was a pretty big letdown.

[Archangel]

An anime that surpassed the manga?

Now i've seen it all O_o

[Board of Command]

The manga really tripped me out when I realized that there were two different characters who simply looked eerily similar. For the longest time I thought they were jumping back and forth in time because one character looked like a slightly older, slightly evil version of the other. Those of you who have read the manga can probably guess which two characters I'm referring to.

That completely changed everything. Unfortunately, this realization came near the end of the storyline.

[Archangel]

I wouldn't really recommend it. The open ending in the anime is a lot better than the closed ending of the manga, the end of each plays out very differently. The art really isn't that bad (I've definitely seen worse), the problem is the plot itself.

There is gratuitous ecchi in the manga. I'm not just saying it like prudish people might for a large number of series, it is actually out of place. There is a character introduced that has no bearing whatsoever on the plot, merely to fulfill an obscure fetish only for the sake of being there. The plot and character development wouldn't change one iota without her.

So do yourself a favor, and just live happily with the anime. The manga was a pretty big letdown.

I couldn't resist and i read it, and i agree that the anime is better but overall it didn't ruin the image i already had of it in any way

There sure is, and to think that the character's only real contribution was to teach her that song ... It's even funnier if you notice that she didn't even show up in the last chapter, kinda like the mangaka forgot all about her since she was so useless.

And since we're on the subject the way they brought that character back to life out of the blue was pretty retarded... he everything from the waist down and his intestines were splattered on the floor ffs!!!

I'd still recommend fans to read it so they can have a better understanding of the story, and then i'd tell him to go watch the anime again so that was the image that stuck with them when they thought about elfen lied


The manga really tripped me out when I realized that there were two different characters who simply looked eerily similar. For the longest time I thought they were jumping back and forth in time because one character looked like a slightly older, slightly evil version of the other. Those of you who have read the manga can probably guess which two characters I'm referring to.

That completely changed everything. Unfortunately, this realization came near the end of the storyline.

Could you PM me with the names of the characters please? I'm curious since i have no idea who you're talking about