Elfen Lied

[SK]

damn i forgot their names, but keito or whatever and that girl he kissed, arent they cousins? is this allowed in japan, because in this ugly and beautiful world they were cousins also.

[thundrakkon]

Yeah, Kouta and his cousin, Yuka, kissed. This was already discussed in this thread around the episode discussion. Just look for **Episode # Spoiler**, and you'll see what was discussed about it. As far as marrying cousins, I have no idea if it is legal in Japan.

In the old days (feudal Asia), marrying your cousin was a common practice amongst the nobles. It makes sure you are marrying into noble blood and has a lot to do with the pre-arranged marriages (which was almost always the case).

In some countries, it is legal to marry your third cousin or further. We do not know the exact extent that Yuka is Kouta's cousin. It could be through marriage (in that case, they are not blood related at all), they could be extremely distant cousins, or there could have been an adoption involved. It was never explicitly explained.

[Eurasian]

::chills:: disgusting anyways. cousins...HANDS OFF!!!

having ur cousin's baby causes child defects (i think it was down's syndrome) that's why u aren't allowed to marry ur cousin in modern day. tha'ts why now it's 3rd cousins (based on what thundrakkon said) and up. by then the blood has already been mixed alot/diluted (not good w/ technical terms but u get what i mean). i kno in taiwan u have to be 6th cousins or up to marry.

[Swallow Your Soul]

It is legal to marry your cousin (any type of cousin) here in the UK (but of course the vast majority of people still regard it very dubiously), just look at our Royal Family who have been intermarrying for ages! For example, Queen Elizabeth and His Racist Highness Prince Phillip are 3rd cousins. (The European monarchies kept it in the family for a similar reason as thundrakkon said with the nobles I think...now the Royal Family all look like horses from inbreeding i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif).

Yeah if they're not blood related then thats not really incestuous because they're not from the same gene pool...

I hope Ep 10 is released soon...I wanna start d/ling it before I go to sleep...

[TheEvil1]

i have none of this anime and am going to DL it now what Subber is the best one?

Anime-fin
Anime-Works
A4L-arupt

are the ones i see who have it subbed

[thundrakkon]

The most up to date one is Anime-fin. I only download those are they are well made. The others were ok, but you'll do just fine with Anime-fin.

[abunai]

All righty, this is sort of off-topic, but since it seems that ignorance about this subject is rife, I'd better clear up some facts:

1) In practically every country in the world (with very few exceptions), it is entirely legal to marry your first cousin. It isn't considered incest, although it may be frowned upon. Japan is no exception - marriage between first cousins is legal.

2) One reason why it is frowned upon is that the closer you are related, the more similar your genetic makeup is. This means that any latent (recessive) "bad genes" may occur in both individuals.
Since this increases (by a small, but significant, factor) the likelihood of a reinforced negative gene, children born of closely-related individuals have a heightened probability of suffering from genetic disorders. There are many different genetic disorders - not merely Downs' Syndrome, although this is probably the most prominent one.

3) The likelihood of negative reinforcement of recessive genes increases drastically if both the individuals mating share one or both parents. This is the actual origin of the near-universal taboo on incestuous relations with siblings or half-siblings.

4) Even so, these are merely probabilities. The actual probability of first cousins having defective offspring is still very low, although it is higher than for the surrounding population.

5) Repeated inbreeding has the effect of producing a very small gene pool. Such a situation tends to produce significant genetic drift, resulting in the emergence of common characteristic traits - for instance, the Habsburg chin or the oh-so-prominent ears of the Windsors. Negative recessives which are present in such a small gene pool will tend to show up frequently - for instance, haemophilia among the European royalty. However, if they are negative enough to prevent the individual from procreating, they will winnow themselves out in short order.

Continual inbreeding, by the way, is one method used by animal breeders to fix desirable traits in a population.

I hope this clears up the misunderstandings. Class dismissed. ;-)

- abunai

[shinichi69]

hahaz... now guys... with this info, those who have secretly fancied thier cousins for a long time... go for it man! =p

PS. this is meant to be a joke... for those "chibi" who cant read between the lines and criticise this note as "mediocre intelligence", i would suggest you press alternate F4 on your keyboard now.

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"if your name suggests danger, it must be the danger of the inability to think"
--no pun intended--

[abunai]

Originally posted by: shinichi69
hahaz... now guys... with this info, those who have secretly fancied thier cousins for a long time... go for it man! =p

Ah, excellent. Class, pay attention now...

Here we see a sterling example of how a mediocre intelligence can misinterpret facts to reach a completely skewed conclusion. Anyone who has ever graded a term paper will be familiar with this phenomenon.

Kids, don't try this at home.

- abunai

[Elessar]

Originally posted by: yenlowang
Elfin/elfen
Pronunciation: 'el-f&n
Function: adjective
Etymology: irregular from elf
1 a : of, relating to, or produced by an elf
1 b: resembling an elf especially in its tiny size <elfin portions>
2 having an otherworldly or magical quality or charm

for the win! nothing to do with elves so dont go there
Well, I am sorry to disappoint you, but looking up a german word in an english enceklopedia is doomed to produce errors.
GERMAN -- ENGLISHLied -- song (noun)Elf, Elfen, Elfin -- elf, elves, female elf (not like in Legolas) (noun)Elb, Elben, Elbin -- elf, elves, female elf (like in Legolas)elfisch -- elven (adjective)Elfenlied -- song of elves

Oh, and in german there is quite a bit confusion about the word "Elf". It was mainly introduced into the german language due to a translation error around 1850. Apart from all the LotR Fans (the german LotR uses 'Elben' btw, because of that confusion and Tolkien liked that very much as it distinguishes his vision of elfs from the old myths) an "Elf" is like a "Fee" (english: fairy, pixie, sprite, ...). The correct translation would have been "Alb", a somewhat goblin like creature that can be either good or bad, sometimes helps people, sometimes not (german "Alptraum" (nightmare) references these creatures sitting on your crest while you are at sleep, giving you a bad dream. A different word for them is "Nachtmahr", the word the english "nightmare" comes from).
And that's what people usually mean when they refers to german "Elfen" (if not in LotR context): an "Alb" -- a mythological, non human creature with some magical skills. There are "Lichtalben" (good to humans and quite angel like) and "Dunkelalben" (evil, more goblin like). "Dunkelalben" being the more common ones, as they lived on earth (opposed to heaven for the "Lichtalben"). But even "Dunkelalben" serve humans, despite their continues efforts to trick them, quite well once they were beaten and acknowledge you. Nasty and evil to about everyone but loyal and friendly to a selected few. "Alb" is a very old, nowadays seldom used word, warping us back into the time of the gleemen, giving us the next hint. In that time, songs were performed by gleemen (obviously) and these songs actually weren't songs like we know them, but tales of "Ritter" (knights) and other "Helden" (heroes) fighting fantastic creatures like the above mentioned "Alben" or "Lindwuermer" (sort of dragon). You may happen know one of the most famous, "The Nibelungenlied".

That is the context in which I think one has interpret the title or the translation I gave above. I can't provide an incisive english translation as I am not that familiar with medieval english specific terms, but meaningwise "elfen lied" translates to a tale/epic of non-human creatures (with the above mentioned attributes of an "Dunkelalb").
It fits the story very very well, but the japanese guy who came up with it has to be one hell of a freak.

On a sidenote, I just watched ep 9, [anime-fin] version, and I was really 'rotflmao' when "AJ News: mass naked child events occured earlier.." scrolled over the in-anime news broadcast tv screen.

[Edit 1]Typo correction.
[Edit 2]Forgot that one, in some medieval texts "Alben" are referred to as "Elben" but that pronounciation was used only very rarely, therefor the initial english<->german LotR translator had this word about noone knew and could use it. Nowadays its quite sole meaning is elves in the way they occur in LotR.

[thundrakkon]

Wow, thanks abunai and Elessar. Those are some pretty cool lessons. It just shows how deep this series really is, and how so much can be discussed about this series in so many levels. Knowledge is golden, and this series just brings up so much. Thank you for clarifying things. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Aeon]

I just took a trip to Gamefaqs and found out some rather bad news



Anime.Fin dropped subbing Elfen Lied in English.
Their encoder, Mentar, has stated that they will now only translate it with Finnish subtitles - they are Anime.FIN[nish] - afterall.

Anybody know if this is true or not?

[Coolman]

Originally posted by: Swallow Your Soul
^^ Depends on what you've seen before, there is worse out there. If you've seen Urotsukidoji or something as extreme as that (and I only saw the censored English version!) then no you won't be too shocked by much of it, but it is very violent and sometimes quite disturbing. Unlike Doji however, Elfen Lied is actually good, its worth the download IMO.

Well... I only watch Naruto (stopped lately what with the Manga becoming a lil to DBZish) and S7 (until licensing), but it'll be interesting.

[Munsu]

Originally posted by: Aeon
I just took a trip to Gamefaqs and found out some rather bad news



Anime.Fin dropped subbing Elfen Lied in English.
Their encoder, Mentar, has stated that they will now only translate it with Finnish subtitles - they are Anime.FIN[nish] - afterall.

Anybody know if this is true or not?

I doubt it... that's probably BS... i think all of their releases up to this point have been english subtittled.. (maybe there is an exception somewhere)

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Budweineken


Originally posted by: Aeon
I just took a trip to Gamefaqs and found out some rather bad news



Anime.Fin dropped subbing Elfen Lied in English.
Their encoder, Mentar, has stated that they will now only translate it with Finnish subtitles - they are Anime.FIN[nish] - afterall.

Anybody know if this is true or not?

I doubt it... that's probably BS... i think all of their releases up to this point have been english subtittled.. (maybe there is an exception somewhere)

I recently went onto their irc channel, this is absolutely true (to a point). Elfen Lied has been dropped by anime.fin. The quote was something like "EL dropped. We were betrayed by our encoder, he has been summarily executed."

Check for yourself at #anime.fin@chatsociety.net in irc

That sucks, I'll just have to wait 7-odd months for the ADV version.

[Munsu]

yeah i saw it also... but... i still dont believe it... i would give it a couple of days to see if it's true...

to this date i dont remember them dropping any series... so i dont know why would they start now with this incredible series

[Eurasian]

even if it's true, u don't have to wait 7 months. A4L is subbing it too.

[abunai]

(lengthy, but factually impeccable exposition by Elessar omitted for brevity)

In fact, it isn't necessary to go to such extremes in explicating the title. Most likely, it was borrowed from the title of the German song Elfenlied by Eduard Moerike (1804-1875).

The song is a little ditty about an elf (i.e. a fairy) peeping on a human wedding. It makes use of a pun of the German word Elf, which can mean both "elf/fairy" and "eleven" - the story takes place at eleven o'clock.

Link to Elfenlied in German and English (http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_text.html?TextId=11640&Transliterate=0&PRINTAB LE=1)

Why associate such an innocuous little song with a bloody anime, you ask? Well, I don't think there's any good reason for it, except to be hip.

I'm guessing that, with the current vogue in Japan for all things German, this is merely another version of the same dynamic that produces the sometimes-odd "Engrish" nonsense phrases on everything from bento-boxes to clothes. The medium (= the language) becomes the message (= hipness factor).

"Gerpanese"? i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

- abunai

[TheEvil1]

Originally posted by: Ryllharu


Originally posted by: Budweineken


Originally posted by: Aeon
I just took a trip to Gamefaqs and found out some rather bad news



Anime.Fin dropped subbing Elfen Lied in English.
Their encoder, Mentar, has stated that they will now only translate it with Finnish subtitles - they are Anime.FIN[nish] - afterall.

Anybody know if this is true or not?

I doubt it... that's probably BS... i think all of their releases up to this point have been english subtittled.. (maybe there is an exception somewhere)

I recently went onto their irc channel, this is absolutely true (to a point). Elfen Lied has been dropped by anime.fin. The quote was something like "EL dropped. We were betrayed by our encoder, he has been summarily executed."

Check for yourself at #anime.fin@chatsociety.net in irc

That sucks, I'll just have to wait 7-odd months for the ADV version.

thsi better be freeking BS i just dled and watched all 9 anime fin eps of it ahhhhhhhhhh

[yenlowang]

actually i was just pointing out that you should not take the title as face value due to the fact that there are so many possible interpretations and the fact that the japanese are sloppy translators (AYBABTU anyone?) in the first place but meh gg on the translation facts .



also on the genetics argument

dudes you realize that the entire human race is related in some way or another?
unrelated ppl have bred and produced down syndrome (and other nastier defects) children. If you know anything at all about genetics , the set number of variables that go into creating an individual (note not humans in general) are actually rather limited. add to that the fact that most genetic defects are carried by the x-chromosome which gives them a very high chance of survival and being passed on to the next generation at some point in time.

the fact of the matter is that until there is such a thing as wide spread genetic screening , you will never actually ever be sure if your offspring is going to inherit some horrible genetic defect either from you or your spouse. Cousins getting together is taboo because its taboo. theres no rhyme , logic or reasoning behind it. Bear in mind that at the time these taboos were formed they did not have any great knowledge of genetics and had to rely on anecdotal evidence at best and at worst they were just talking out of their ass. Even today with scientific methods and greater emphasis on empirical data there is no conclusive evidence that cousins getting together has any greater chance of producing genetically deformed children UNLESS there is a consistent history of genetic deformities in the immediate ancestors (5 generations if i am not mistaken) of either sides of the family bloodlines. in other words ... same shit as if you are marrying into some other bloodline =P

look its like this, we could discuss the scientific and sociological aspects of it till the cows come home but the crux of it is that cousin love is not taboo in alot of cultures and science has shown that unless theres a prevailing history of such nonsense going on theres nothing genetically unsound with it either. its neither exotic nor particularly exciting unless you happen to come from a culture where this is taboo , which i am guessing is about atleast 70% of the ppl on these boards =P

[Munsu]

it doesnt necessesarily have to be down syndrome... it can be any disease.... close related people tend to have more similar genes than faaaaaaaaaaaar related people.... so that means that the combination that can cause the disease in question has a higher probability of occuring....

[thundrakkon]

yenlowang, I am just saying that from what I remember in my biology classes, the closer you are genetically related, the less variance there is in the gene pool, and the higher your chances of defects that could occur.

I remember that if you have a population of less than 10,000 of the same species, there will not be enough genetic diversification, and the population will eventually die out. Please correct my numbers if they are incorrect, since it has been a while since I took Genetics.

As for looking for a history of genetic defects, I don't really know of a case study for the general population, but there has been recorded historty of royal families inter-marrying. The old Royal household, I think the same line as Catherine the Great, had a history of hemophiliac that caused the death of their descendents. If you can look at a lot of the royal families in the past, you could probably have a case study of genetic defects.

Also, I was corrected by my friend the other day. In the US, in 31 states, it is legal to marry your first cousin. It is just not legal in my state. It is also socially unacceptable to marry your relatives from all the cultures that I know of.

Now, I just really need my Elfen Lied. *sigh* *enters withdrawal* i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif I am just happy that some groups are still subbing it. I wonder if Anime-fin could recruit a new encoder and be able to continue?

[SK]

anyone drop a link for grp subbin elfen lied. mirc is the devil.

[Sensei Jon]

Elfen Lied episode 10 is out by Anime-fin Episode 10 (http://anime-fin.elandal.net:6969/files/[anime_fin]_Elfen_Lied_-_10_[0DFE0CC6].torrent), found on Mircx, must have just been released. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Ryllharu]

If anime-fin is going to finish this series, that's great, if this is the last one they do, that's okay too. I gave up on getting all worked up over a dropped series. Even if its a really deep series like Elfen Lied.

Edit:

I don't know if anyone thought about this, but the opening gained a lot of signifigance with me today. I read somewhere that the Lily is often interpreted as a flower of death. Since the song has "...Lily of Purity..." in it, I wonder if it isn't something about the purity of death.

Just something to think about.

[Munsu]

i guess that my intuition was right

[Eurasian]

WHAT HAPPEN WHEN I WAS SLEEPING?!?!?!?! i can't believe i wasn't a part of this...

despite the song having a german title, the song is in latin. so even if japan is going through a German-craze (which i don't know...what happen to david beckham?!), the song wasn't used becuz it was "hip." unless the german relation is the title and that was all u meant...i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif<-confused

yahthat unrelated ppl can have children w/ genetic disorders. the number of variables may be limited (i don't know for sure) but constantly mutation occurs in the chromosome. ppl usually don't have the same face, body structure. etc. so even if it was limited, the gene pool is goddamn big. but if u breed w/ ur relative, that gene pool became small. really small cuz it's only ur family's gene pool. it's just the chance for a genetic disorder to occur increases. if they both have a recessive trait for that disorder, then the chances for that trait to show up just went up.

Queen Victoria was the one who had hemophilia. it mostly affected the male descendants.

happiness. now that i know anime-fin didn't drop elfen lied.

EDIT: spoiler 10***************
DraGunZer0, i saw that too...it says a lot of what the cops think nowadays............

i guess this episode was pretty much flashback on how everything started. so that girl was lucy??? getting cannonballs chucked at her. i don't get it when kurama had a revelation to kill the baby. he's like "i get it...oomori...'i have to thank you.'"

numero 35...DAMN!!!!! 26 vectors...DAMN!!!!! she's probably gonna be the "final boss." but how the hell is lucy going to fight someone w/ 26 vectors?!?!?!

CLIFFHANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH WHY!?!?!?!?! especially ending it w/ the intro of #35.
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[Munsu]

well hemofilia affects only men... women are carriers of the gene.... if not mistaken

[DraGunZer0]

Umm.. on ep 10 at 8:25, did the cops really say "Come out with your PANTS down?" I find that kind of odd...

[thundrakkon]

DraGunZer0, I think that response from the cops might be a joke by Anime-fin? It sounds like the opposite of "come out with your hands up." I am really glad that Anime-fin continued subbing this series, and this episode did reveal so much.

**Episode 10 Spoilers**

My suspicion was correct. Nana is Kurama's daughter. Still, could someone explain that whole diclonius looking into the mind of Kurama? What did they do to him? And why did he come an agent to stop them because of that? It looks like he can't or they won't kill him.

Eurasian, I don't think that girl was Lucy. They all looked alike, and I think it was mentioned that they all came from the same area at the same time. Lucy is probably the queen, since she is the only one that can actually reproduce. Everyone else is like her drone carrying genetic material to spread around, it seems. I think that the experiments killed a lot of the diclonius. That is why the director ordered to kill new diclonius that are born because there were too many of them.

The canon-balled diclonius died. The one shot in the head died. I think the one where the police was at also died (shot to death). They all look so much alike. I think Lucy has the darkest red color hair, however.

Number 35 is probably a berserk/fighter type drone. Since Lucy is probably the queen, and she has Nana on her side now, they might be able to defeat her combined.

I find the Nana situation strange with Lucy there, but it was mentioned that the diclonius only killed humans. Therefore, I think that Nana and Lucy will probably not kill each other, and probably will get along. Lucy is the queen, afterall. She needs to take care of her drones. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

Btw, is Nana a third generation diclonius? It appears that the "good" doctor killed all the third generations were born, but the second generations were the ones killing. Nana didn't want to kill everyone on instinct like the others did.

**End of Spoilers**

Wow, I just realized that packed so much information in this episode. That was an awesome episode, too. I can't wait for the next one.

[Ryllharu]

Still, could someone explain that whole diclonius looking into the mind of Kurama? What did they do to him? And why did he come an agent to stop them because of that? It looks like he can't or they won't kill him.

Unless I'm misintepreting everything, Lucy is the only one who can reproduce in the normal way humans do, she is the Queen, and we can assume she has been infecting lots of people across the country. Sterile diclonius, called Silpelit, can pass the virus too. From what the series has shown us, they jab one of their vectors into any human brain, and infect it with a virus. This virus ensures that all children from the infected are also sterile dicloniuses (dicloni?) Kurama and the other guy were both hit, and thus both had diclonius children.

The director said he was trying to track down the source of the virus, so that is how we can assume they captured and did all the things they did to Lucy.



Btw, is Nana a third generation diclonius? It appears that the "good" doctor killed all the third generations were born, but the second generations were the ones killing. Nana didn't want to kill everyone on instinct like the others did.

They said that 35 was the only 3rd generation they kept alive. But Nana was definitely a 3rd too... (Lucy, the one that infected Kurama, Nana) Either the scientist guy doesn't know Nana is still alive, which seems a little odd since he's releasing 35 to kill Nana (eps 9), or the "generations" don't work in the way we think they should.

[Sensei Jon]

Someone asked for the opening song and I found it for download here Elfen Lied Opening (http://dual-anime.com/ect/mp3/mp3.html)

[Eurasian]

Sensei Jon, do u know anyplace that has the full version of the OP???

[intense]

yueap... the series is soon comin to an end... and i can tell that these last few episodes will be amazing (well hopefully)

[Sensei Jon]

No sorry Eurasian, best bet would be to search google, that is what I did.

[g0at]

My suspicion was correct. Nana is Kurama's daughter. Still, could someone explain that whole diclonius looking into the mind of Kurama? What did they do to him? And why did he come an agent to stop them because of that? It looks like he can't or they won't kill him.


i think she gave him the virus when she did that thing. and thats why his baby was also a diclonius



Eurasian, I don't think that girl was Lucy. They all looked alike, and I think it was mentioned that they all came from the same area at the same time. Lucy is probably the queen, since she is the only one that can actually reproduce. Everyone else is like her drone carrying genetic material to spread around, it seems. I think that the experiments killed a lot of the diclonius. That is why the director ordered to kill new diclonius that are born because there were too many of them.

The canon-balled diclonius died. The one shot in the head died. I think the one where the police was at also died (shot to death). They all look so much alike. I think Lucy has the darkest red color hair, however.
that was all lucy i think. she never died, they said that she was faking her development thats why the bullets didnt work on her. and lucy isnt the queen the one in that big sealed chamber probably is.

[Ryllharu]

No, completely wrong. Two of the ones in eps 10 died. Lucy was not any of them.

35, "the one in the chamber" is a third generation diclonius, its a direct quote from the eps. Lucy is certainly not. She is the only one who can reproduce like normal human beings.

[Eurasian]

#35 is scarier than lucy. she's the "ultimate diclonius." how the hell is lucy gonna beat 26 vectors w/ her 4 vectors (and limited to 2 meter radius). even w/ nana's help, it wouldn't be enough. nana has...what 2 or 4? TWENTY-SIX!!!!

thanx sensei jon. i already had the song but since u posted a link i thought u mite have an idea of where to find the full version. i've searced everywhere...it doesn't exist...i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

[intense]

(posted two of same message, deleted this one though)

[intense]

you know what i dnt get... was the fact the daughter turned into a diclonius when the wife was already pregnant wit the kid, before the other diclonius infected kurama with the virus... so how did the virus transfer to the wife even though she was already pregnant with a normal baby.
(haha pretty confusing isnt it? it will probably take a few ppl to get what im trying to say)

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Eurasian
#35 is scarier than lucy. she's the "ultimate diclonius." how the hell is lucy gonna beat 26 vectors w/ her 4 vectors (and limited to 2 meter radius). even w/ nana's help, it wouldn't be enough. nana has...what 2 or 4? TWENTY-SIX!!!!

thanx sensei jon. i already had the song but since u posted a link i thought u mite have an idea of where to find the full version. i've searced everywhere...it doesn't exist...

I think that IS the full version.

[Stoopider]

Originally posted by: intense
you know what i dnt get... was the fact the daughter turned into a diclonius when the wife was already pregnant wit the kid, before the other diclonius infected kurama with the virus... so how did the virus transfer to the wife even though she was already pregnant with a normal baby.
(haha pretty confusing isnt it? it will probably take a few ppl to get what im trying to say)

We don't exactly know the timeline, of when Lucy infected Kuruma and when Nana was born. Probably the time Lucy infected Kuruma was probably 9 months or a year before Nana was even conceived. They just glanced through it.

But it all seems that Lucy is the queen however. And THe 26 hand monster would probably be taken down by Nana. Because maybe she has longer range.

But it seems that everytime Lucy gives people the virus, the virus is slowly evolving, like the 26 hands monster, the third generation of it's kind. Quite scary ain't it?

I can't believe this Kouta and the cousin (Incestrous one!), is still totally oblivious about Lucy. Hahah.

[Sensei Jon]

Originally posted by: Stoopider
We don't exactly know the timeline, of when Lucy infected Kuruma and when Nana was born. Probably the time Lucy infected Kuruma was probably 9 months or a year before Nana was even conceived. They just glanced through it.


Lucy wasn't the one to infect Kuruma. The one who infected him had her head blown off by the General Director's Son.

[Stoopider]

Oh yeah.. But that means any other diclonous can infect people?

Hmm. With them and all their pink/red hair, it's hard to tell which one's a normal diclonous and which one's Lucy. Although I like to think all of them are Lucy. And that the bullet to her head didn't quite kill her.

[g0at]

Originally posted by: Ryllharu
No, completely wrong. Two of the ones in eps 10 died. Lucy was not any of them.

35, "the one in the chamber" is a third generation diclonius, its a direct quote from the eps. Lucy is certainly not. She is the only one who can reproduce like normal human beings.


no, that was all lucy, they didnt die. after she gets shot with the connonball they say, "same as last time" meaning it didnt kill her. and than after she gets shot by that guy he says "she must have been faking her development" meaning that that was the same person who got shot by the cannonball.

[Ryllharu]

No. You are still wrong. It was NOT Lucy. IF it didn't die each time, it STILL wasn't Lucy. It was the one they captured at the apartment building. Which was NOT LUCY.

"same as last time" just means they have hit her before in the same manner. "Faking her development" means when she was gettting hit by cannonballs, she wasn't showing all her strength, though it does mean it was the same one, it STILL doesn't mean it was Lucy.

That doesn't change the fact that one was shot in the head, through it mind you, not grazed like Lucy in eps 1, with armor piercing bullets that "apparently she can't deflect." THAT ONE IS DEAD, Lucy has not been captured yet.

They said in the eps that they are still searching for the queen, who in earlier eps the director stated blatantly was Lucy. They had not found Lucy, they do not even know who she is.

Even listen to the seiyuu. Young Lucy is different from young Nana, who is different from that one that infected Kurama. They are not the same people.



Please don't make me post again on such an obvious issue.

[TheEvil1]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1


Originally posted by: Ryllharu


Originally posted by: Budweineken


Originally posted by: Aeon
I just took a trip to Gamefaqs and found out some rather bad news



Anime.Fin dropped subbing Elfen Lied in English.
Their encoder, Mentar, has stated that they will now only translate it with Finnish subtitles - they are Anime.FIN[nish] - afterall.

Anybody know if this is true or not?

I doubt it... that's probably BS... i think all of their releases up to this point have been english subtittled.. (maybe there is an exception somewhere)

I recently went onto their irc channel, this is absolutely true (to a point). Elfen Lied has been dropped by anime.fin. The quote was something like "EL dropped. We were betrayed by our encoder, he has been summarily executed."

Check for yourself at #anime.fin@chatsociety.net in irc

That sucks, I'll just have to wait 7-odd months for the ADV version.

thsi better be freeking BS i just dled and watched all 9 anime fin eps of it ahhhhhhhhhh

ANIME FIN HAS ep 10 out, looks like thet are still subbig it

[Eurasian]

thanks for informing us theevil...but sensei jon already posted that elfen lied 10 came out.

i agree w/ ryllharu that it was the diclonius they captured at the apt. but if it wasn't lucy, then who?? why would they focus on some random diclonuis...was it becuz of kurama?

[Kuske]

WHOA!!! THIS ANIME IS CRAZY!!!! man seeing a cute girl killing ppl -_-" I like the anime but i might never go out with a cute girl again... JK haha

[Sensei Jon]

Eurasian I think they just did that to show what is happening to the Diclonius and what they are doing. Not really for any specific reason.

[abunai]

Originally posted by: DraGunZer0
Umm.. on ep 10 at 8:25, did the cops really say "Come out with your PANTS down?" I find that kind of odd...

i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif *chuckle* Yah, I imagine that was a joke on the part of anime.fin - I don't really care for such jokes, myself, I prefer a straight translation.

Anyway, what was said was: "Keisatsu da! Shuui wa koui shita!", meaning "This is the police! We have the place surrounded!" (Well, literally: "We have besieged the vicinity!", but you know how it is).

- abunai

[dormcat]

Originally posted by: Kuske
WHOA!!! THIS ANIME IS CRAZY!!!! man seeing a cute girl killing ppl -_-" I like the anime but i might never go out with a cute girl again... JK haha

How about Gunslinger Girl by AonE? It is more likely to happen around us than Elfen Lied. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif I just love the idea of an FN P90 in a violin case.

BTW, nice to see you here, abunai.

[thundrakkon]

g0at, I totally agree with Ryllharu on the point that the diclonius you saw in the episodes were not Lucy. They were 2nd generation diclonius, as referenced to in the episodes. In earlier episodes, they mentioned that many diclonius were killed and experimented on. This episode is just showing that situation.

Nana was number 7, and they have, as far as we know, at least 35. As mentioned in the episode, the limitation of the facilities was the main reason why they started killing off the newborn diclonius, meaning there were already multiple diclonius in captivity.

Also, I just want to mention again that any of the diclonius could infect/seed people, so the infected people's newborn becomes diclonius. That was what happened to Kurama.

Stoopider, I agree that there seems to be some sort of mutation, but it is the third generation (non-directly from Lucy), that are different. Nana has a longer reach, and number 35 has twenty-six arms. The first generations were probably similar to Lucy, except they lacked the ability to reproduce themselves.

Eurasian, they focused on the other diclonius probably to show that it was a widespread situation, that it is happening all over Japan, and it wasn't all Lucy's doing.

[Swallow Your Soul]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, flicked back a couple of pages quickly and didn't see anything about it, but if I missed it then never mind i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Could No35 be the one who appeared in Lucy's hallucination/vision/dream/whatever in ep 9? The one who was telling her to kill people and change the world into "her" world? I just remembered last night (I was making a home-made AMV to show my non-anime downloading mates some of the stuff from the series and came across that clip while I was doing so).

Just a thought...

[Munsu]

it might be a possibility.... but im pretty sure that was just a split personality inside Lucy....

[thundrakkon]

Episode 11 by Anime-fin is out:

Episode 11 (http://tracker.anime-fin.net:6969/files/[anime_fin]_Elfen_Lied_-_11_[C46FE1CE].torrent)

[Lefty]

God this series keeps getting more fuked by the minute. I love it. I really can't wait for the next EP.

[Munsu]

Another good episode....

Only 2 episodes left... by the way this is progressing, i think this will have a good ending...

When i mean good, I do not mean story wise... what i mean is that it will not leave any plot holes... so I cant wait for the rest to come out....

[Hotsuma]

Damn... That Diclonius is fucked up. I hope Lucy makes mincemeat (literally) out of that bitch.

And that cousin needs to go. So does Nyuu. I want LUCY.

[Sensei Jon]

This is only 13 episodes long?!?

[Hotsuma]

I know. That sucks.

But, at least it'll be easier to complete on DVD, once ADV gets around to releasing em.

[Eurasian]

Originally posted by: Hotsuma
Damn... That Diclonius is fucked up. I hope Lucy makes mincemeat (literally) out of that bitch.

And that cousin needs to go. So does Nyuu. I want LUCY.

yes. #35 is pretty fucked up. she's scary. "can i kill her?" "hahaha...this is fun." *speechless* reminds me of the girl from THE RING!!!

OMG! next epi...kouta remembers! and nana looks like she's gonna be crucified or something. that girl is the devil's child. so who is kurama's child...for some reason in this epi i got that #35 is kurama's child. maybe i heard it wrong. or nana is really kurama's child?

[Sensei Jon]

I believe Nana is Kurama's child.
I agree 35 is really screwed up, and awesome at the same time.

[thundrakkon]

It's pretty much safe to assume that Kurama's child is Nana, since he has a picture of her in his bedroom, the director talks about sparing her, and he let her go with cash to live on instead of killing her like he would any other diclonius.

**Episode 11 Spoilers**

Nana doesn't look good in the next episode. I hope she doesn't die....

I was expecting that to happen to #35's "mom", but it was still shocking nonetheless. If #35 can recognize her mom, then will she kill her mom? She stated that she knew the researcher wasn't her mom. Therefore, who will she recognize as her mom? Would she recognize Lucy as her mom, since Lucy is the queen? Lucy must have an ace up her sleeve.

I figure that Bando, mechanical arms guy, will have to play a part in the defeat of #35, although I just can't see how yet. Also, Kurama so far seems to be immune to the attacks of the diclonius, or at least they don't attack him. I wonder if he would be able to approach #35, either, without her killing him.

Oh yeah, finally, it looks like Yuka realizes how Kouta really feels about his cousin. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

**End of Spoilers**

Awesome episode as always, and once again, it ends on a cliffhanger. A week seems too long to wait...

[dormcat]

Nope, #35 is Kurama's daughter. The Director spared her life, but didn't tell Kurama what would happen to her. Therefore, Kurama devoted his fatherly love to Nana and treat her as his own daughter. Furthermore, in episode 10 we saw Kurama's daughter has orange hair, which is same as #35, while Nana has purple. Finally, read Director's comment on #35:

*SPOILER*



03:50
Shirakawa: Explosives? But Director...

03:54
Director: This will be a lesson to Kurama. It's the responsibility of a father that doesn't even have a human child. For me, this was just one way of making sure that he would not betray me.



*END OF SPOILER*

#35's human part recognize Saitou as her "mother," but when her Diclonius mind awakens, she could tell (don't know how yet) that Saitou is not her biological mother (Kurama's wife), so #35 finished her immediately.

Saitou, as Kisaragi in episode 1, was purposely designed to look cute. The first time I saw her I knew she would be killed by #35. Poor girl.

[Munsu]

I agree with all dormcat's statements... #35 is Kurama's daughter...


if not mistaken Kurama told the soldier to kill the Diclonious that arrived (which is Nana) because he feared that his true child will be killed... (unless he actually meant the diclonious that will be coming)

[Ryllharu]

The whole issue of which one is Kurama's daughter is really confusing. dormcat's points are really good, but I can't see Kurama ordering Bando to kill Nana, the "daughter" he tried so hard to protect.

Maybe Mariko aka 35, really is Kurama's biological daughter, but I wonder if he even considers her a daughter. The pictures in his office might provide a hint to which one he considers his "daughter." He had smashed the picture of him and his pregnant wife, but the ones of Nana and Kirisaki (or whatever her name was) were intact. A few episodes ago he cared for Nana enough to put himself in a very dangerous position by saving her against the director's orders.

I agree with dormcat's conclusions, which is why I'm so confused right now, but the evidence in 10 seemed to support Nana as Kurama's daughter. We don't know how long ago the flashback in 10 was, but I thought it supported Nana's age more than 35's. Kouta IS in college now, but that isn't really concrete evidence.


I guess we'll just have to wait to find out, but I'm still really not sure.

[Hotsuma]

Dormcat made some really good points about number 35. She might, indeed, be his daughter. But that doesnt mean that he's telling Bando to kill Nana, either. Number 35 poses a far greater threat to everybody than Nana ever could, which is why I think in order to save people, and Nana, he's telling him to kill 35 instead. Additionally, he cut corners to save her life too.

But then, he could also be telling him to kill Lucy. I mean, she did cut off Nana's arms and legs, after all...

However, I'll go with Bando to kill 35. She's far more evil than Nana. And to a certain extent, Lucy herself.

I really don't want Lucy to die. Whatever happens to the Nyuu personality, I don't really care... but Lucy herself is BADASS, and deserves to live... Though... I can't help but think she IS gonna die, for what she told Kouta back in episode 9. (flashback)

[Eurasian]

yah i think kurama sent bando to kill 35. he must hate her...he doesn't even want to be part of the release. 35...*chills*...she's 5 years old and she enjoys seeing other ppl suffer. i don't care much for nyuu either. i want lucy to come back as well!!!

[Coyote]

Well Id just like to make a few points, one Nana's mother died for what I think was a pretty darn good reason, you try giving birth to something with horns i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif bound to cause some damage, also the one getting shot I believe was Lucy tho I could be wrong.
Also Anime4Life & Anirupt are also subbing EL but their a bit behind Anime.Fin by only 2 eps tho. And I was also very confused about that "Come out with your pants down" quote... But well it could be that diconlius cant use their powers when their all exposed and slightly chilly.. ya never know

[Hotsuma]

I think his wife had cancer, so giving birth was especially difficulty.

[abunai]

Originally posted by: dormcat
Saitou, as Kisaragi in episode 1, was purposely designed to look cute. The first time I saw her I knew she would be killed by #35. Poor girl.
Yup. In Elfen Lied, cuteness is the equivalent of a red Security tunic in the original Star Trek series. It means you're about to become a messy object lesson.

Unless you're a main character - and I wouldn't bet the farm on surviving, even then.

- abunai

[Lefty]

You got it wrong just being a secondary character means certain doom. No one is safe in thisw series from being beat the fuck up and killed. I have no clue how this series will end at all.

[yenlowang]

bet you guys cant guess why Lucy seems to be the only anglo name while the rest have japanese names despite the fact that in the context of the story Lucy is supposed to be a japanese child

[abunai]

Originally posted by: yenlowang
bet you guys cant guess why Lucy seems to be the only anglo name while the rest have japanese names despite the fact that in the context of the story Lucy is supposed to be a japanese child

You'd lose that bet.

Great-Grandma Lucy (http://www.wsu.edu:8001/vwsu/gened/learn-modules/top_longfor/timeline/afarensis/afarensis-a.html)

-abunai

[yenlowang]

good game!

[mugen-x]

that number 35 is a wacko i just hope nana survives shes so cute

[Hotsuma]

http://home.comcast.net/~Sulphur/1097040548515.jpg

[abunai]

i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif Holy Christ, Hotsuma! I'm glad I'd already swallowed my coffee, before I saw that. Otherwise, I'd be wiping down the walls with a wet cloth, now - once I'd finish cleaning the monitor...

- abunai

[Stoopider]

Lol.. Good one.

[Saruto]

DAMN!!! ...That serie is so fuckin violent lol i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif...i just saw the first 4 episode and ...wow...thats freakin violent...maybe a little bit too much lol i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif


oh and why Yuka had to fall in love whit kouta...there's not enough other japanese people in the world i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif?? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gifi/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif ..(and there cousin's ..weird lol)

[intense]

2 more episodes left... cant wait till its donee!!!
damn this is really getting good!

[Saruto]

Originally posted by: intense
2 more episodes left... cant wait till its donee!!!
damn this is really getting good!

How many does it have episode?...sorry i dont want to browse 15 pages..

oh and is there another plcq to download elfen lied because mirkx.com does not work anymore on my computer...maybe later but not now...

[thundrakkon]

When their site is up (it is down oftentimes) you can try to get it at Anime-fin (http://tracker.anime-fin.net:6969/)'s site.

For Mirkx, try one of these 2 links to get to them. The first one works on certain computers that the other one doesn't, but mirkx prefers people to use the second one for bandwidth purposes:

mirkx original (http://www.mirkx.com/1.php)

mirkx new (http://www.mirkx.com.nyud.net:8090/1.php)

You can also use Baka-Updates (http://www.baka-updates.com). Just search for Elfen Lied on them, and they'll link you to the BT.

Also, there are 13 episodes total, and you can find a lot of information on Anime series with AnimeNFO (http://www.animenfo.com) site:

[Saruto]

Wow, thanks men! i appreciate it!

damn that 6 ep was fuck top...So Lucy killed her sis?...or she is the sis of kouta?...wtf :S..i'm confused lol...thats a great anime it suck that i'ts only 13 ep...

[dormcat]

@Hotsuma: What was it?! The link is broken and I can't see the picture.

[hikaru004]

I think that Nana has lived way too long. This girl is an idiot. She's also cute.

I also think that it is for Lucy's advantage to stay as Nyuu for as long as possible and come out only to fight. That way she can't be hunted down as easily.

How come no one dyed her hair? Someone should have thought of that.

[shinichi69]

hahaz... cos she doesnt need to... she can clear anything in her path...

[hikaru004]

Hey, isn't it weird that only 1 male diclonius was found and he was older than Lucy?

Where's number 2?

After I watched the opening sequence, I kept wondering this. Do you think that Kouta is the 2nd male?

[Munsu]

well.... that male diclonius my guess is that he became one after he was born... through his research... maybe he injected some shit...


And i wouldnt be surprised if Kouta became the second male... infact it would be awesome... it would be awesome to see Kouta going berserk for some reason

[Sensei Jon]

If you are talking about the General Director's son as the first male Diclonius then I am pretty sure he made himself that way with his research. It is further proven by the fact that the General Director, not sure which episode, told someone that he didn't want to reverse the effects with his son's research he wanted to find what made someone a Diclonius.

[Swallow Your Soul]

I kinda assumed diclonius' were born only female...since they all seem to be in the show, I had forgotten about the guy as well but yeah, maybe he did it through research or something...I dunno either way i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

It would be pretty good to see another male character get the powers, Kouta or that soldier guy...

[drowelf]

so are the subbed versions only up to number 11 and if not where can i get ep. 12 and 13

[Ryllharu]

Eps 12 aired less than 12 hours ago, we're all waiting too. Be patient. (Learned after swearing at the end of every eps of Elfen Lied because I knew I'd have to wait another week.)

[intense]

yay! that means the sub will be out very soon! and just one more episode left till its finished!

[JKD]

I really really want to see this new series, but i can't find it on Animesuki..do you know where to get it..sorry if this has been answered already, i didn;t want to read 18 pagesi/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[hikaru004]

Do you really think that this can be wrapped up in 2 episodes?

I was hoping for a second season.

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: JKD
I really really want to see this new series, but i can't find it on Animesuki..do you know where to get it..sorry if this has been answered already, i didn;t want to read 18 pages

AnimeSuki doesn't post licensed series. There's a link for anime.fin's tracker site somewhere in this thread only a couple pages back.

[Ryllharu]

Can't edit for some reason..sorry for double post

Page 12

[drowelf]

ep. 12 subbed is out on anime fin now

[TheEvil1]

ep 12 was sweet, lots of killig ep 13 should be great as well and hopefully tie up some things

a bunch of question asked on the last page are answered in this ep

[thundrakkon]

As usual, another great ep, although some of the flashblacks were longer than I had hoped. I wanted more material, but I guess I'll just have to wait for the final epi. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

****Episode 12 Spoilers****

I wonder how Lucy is going to explain everything to Kouta? She said she will at the end of this episode, but how is she supposed to explain why she killed his father and sister? She seems to understand all that is going on, so it will be nice to see. I am sure she will be able to defeat number 35, although is Nana the only diclonius with the ability to stop the arms from coming out of the other diclonius?

I am happy that Nana is still alive. I wonder if the organization that is experimenting on the diclonius will be destroyed? I doubt it. I am hoping for Elfen Lied 2, the destruction of that organization.

So does anyone think that Kouta will kill Lucy in the finale? My guess is no, since she will return for Elfen Lied 2. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

****End of Spoilers****

I remembered that in an earlier episode, Lucy used her "arm" to reach inside a university girl's head, and she said that it's not what she was looking for. Has anyone figured out what she was looking for?

Just one more week....

Edit: @TheEvil1, that is just speculation and wishful thinking on my part. There is no confirmation of an Elfen Lied 2 series that I know of yet.

[TheEvil1]

whats this Elfen Lied 2 you are talking about? if its going to continue that is gonna BE FREEKING AWSOME

[Hotsuma]

Episode 12 was PIMP. I almost thought 35 was the meanest, cruelest character in EL, but Lucy proved that she's still number one in the book.

bless you, hot Lucy.

[Aeon]

Poor Nana, nobody even bothered to check on her when she fell. And i'm guessing since the guards on the other side of the bridge were knocked out and not dead that Nana did it so she could reach 35.

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: thundrakkon
As usual, another great ep, although some of the flashblacks were longer than I had hoped. I wanted more material, but I guess I'll just have to wait for the final epi.

I remembered that in an earlier episode, Lucy used her "arm" to reach inside a university girl's head, and she said that it's not what she was looking for. Has anyone figured out what she was looking for?

Just one more week....

Edit: @TheEvil1, that is just speculation and wishful thinking on my part. There is no confirmation of an Elfen Lied 2 series that I know of yet.


Wasn't she looking for someone to spread the virus to? That's all I can think of. The other one that infected Kurama hit him right about there.

[Eurasian]

OMG!!!!!! lucy kicks ass. 35 needs to get spanked!

one more epi....i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

[Munsu]

I just rewatched the first episode... and saw that Lucy was singing the intro song when she first appeared... that means that she has always had Kouta on her mind...

[Everon]

well that...or maybe she just couldn't get that tune out of her head.

[Xollence]

Hehe yeah, Lucy is still the badass in the show. I wonder how they'll finish things off with episode 13.

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: Everon
well that...or maybe she just couldn't get that tune out of her head.

I prefer to think she has always had Kouta in her mind by humming that song.

It's really romantic, that she singlehandedly escaped a maximum security compound, killed thousands of people, and survived a sniper rifle shot to the head, only to meet somebody she loved.

[Swallow Your Soul]

I would have thought she sung it because she remembered Kouta and loved the melody, considering he was the only guy who seemed to treat her well etc.

I don't think she escaped to meet Kouta though, I just think she did it to kill people etc like the little personality in her head suggested. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif Could be wrong though...

[Eurasian]

well...who wants to be kept in that facitlity?? escaping is a good option especially if u can. i also think she always thought about kouta and she wanted to meet him. she doesn't know anyone else, i mean they all died already. coincedentally...she did just happen to meet him. that's anime.

[intense]

har.. in my opinion... before the last episode airs... i think that Lucy will die... probably... cuz of the lil promise that they made about if she started to kill lotsa ppl kouta has to kill her... iono... how else would they end this series.
*NOTE*: THIS IS NOT A SPOILER IN ANY WAY... if she does die, dnt blame it on me that i ruined it...!

[Saruto]

Originally posted by: intense
har.. in my opinion... before the last episode airs... i think that Lucy will die... probably... cuz of the lil promise that they made about if she started to kill lotsa ppl kouta has to kill her... iono... how else would they end this series.
*NOTE*: THIS IS NOT A SPOILER IN ANY WAY... if she does die, dnt blame it on me that i ruined it...!

I'm tinking the same thing as you...If it wasnt suppose to end like this then in the flashback she would'nt said that.

[intense]

yes!!!.... its gonna air really very soon!!!!! cant wait.....!!!!! this is one of those animes that you just keep wanting and stuff..... you just cant get enough of it!

[Hotsuma]

I don't think he'll go through with it. It's obvious he loves her very much, and won't bring himself to do it.

[Ryllharu]

Does the preview seem so show that 35 is Kurama's daughter? She's not homocidal in the least when it shows him picking her up, nothing like her surrogate mother who she sliced in half. As much as he cared for Nana, I'm starting to believe that he actually wants to protect 35.

The weird thing is, I could see Kouta killing Lucy as much as I could see him not going through with it. That's why I want to see eps 13 so bad.

[Eurasian]

i'm crossing my finger that kouta wouldn't. i mean now that he finally remembers so much could happen between them.

[intense]

whens the raw gonna air anyways?

[Hotsuma]

Just saw the raw. Good stuff.

[TheEvil1]

anime.fin has something called Elfen LEET 13 by GHETTO-SUBS up on their page now

anyone have any isea what it is? im gonna Dl it cause i have bandwidth to burn, full name is

[ghetto-subs]_Elfen_Leet_13_[DEADFACE].avi

[Ryllharu]

Well, its a little messed up, but right now, I don't really care that much. It's called Ghetto subs for a reason. Enjoy this parody eps.

[intense]

maybe they were the first group release it so anime fin just posted it for the impatient ppl. has anybody actually seen it? is it really the subbed version, or just some stupidness with wrong subs

[DeluxSkillz]

wrong subs

[intense]

oh ok... well thnx for telling me, i was just 3% completed with it. hahahah.

[TheEvil1]

Originally posted by: intense
maybe they were the first group release it so anime fin just posted it for the impatient ppl. has anybody actually seen it? is it really the subbed version, or just some stupidness with wrong subs

its stupidly wrong subs but it was pretty funny

the real one is out now

only 1 seed so its going slow

[glitched]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1


Originally posted by: intense
maybe they were the first group release it so anime fin just posted it for the impatient ppl. has anybody actually seen it? is it really the subbed version, or just some stupidness with wrong subs

its stupidly wrong subs but it was pretty funny

the real one is out now

only 1 seed so its going slow


since he didnt post a link, you can find it here:

http://tracker.anime-fin.net:6969/stats.html?info_hash=b330b776fe767cd96224e30248f11 3d17609f38f

[Eurasian]

spoiler epi 13*****

that was awesome!! i just don't like how it makes me think that's lucy but doesn't really show that's lucy...but it's good nonetheless.

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[Hotsuma]

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I think the symbolism of the music box (which had a sad tune) finally stopping, and the clock starting again more or less points that it is Lucy. Besides, in the manga, she's still alive at this point, I believe.

[Munsu]

Hotsuma since you read the manga...


I doubt there will be another series since the way it finishes hints that there will not be another series... but is there enough content in the manga to do another series to finish up the story...?

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
Hotsuma since you read the manga...


I doubt there will be another series since the way it finishes hints that there will not be another series... but is there enough content in the manga to do another series to finish up the story...?

No, I haven't read the manga, actually. (artwork kinda sucks) I heard that this segment in the anime is thrown into a part of the manga, where not much happens, and at the end of it, of course, Lucy is still alive. But that's only because it hasn't been changed around.

I will hold true to the belief that Lucy/Nyuu is alive and behind that door, because there's really nobody else that's a reasonable candidate. Heh, and a girl in love with invincible arms is something to be afraid of. Even if you have a battalion of soldiers at your side.

I like the way the anime ended. 9/10 people, I assume, will first think "Nyuu" at the door, because of all the symbols. I don't think a second series is necassaryat all, because the way it ended, was pretty satisfying.

[intense]

SPOILERS!











yeapp... surely and obviously that was Lucy, who else would it be?!
but you know what i still dont know about, is whats gonna happen with the orginization that dealt wit the dilconus. did it get destroyed when it showed a scene with Lucy fighting again?

END


yeapppp that was a very nice ending to this series... couldnt have been better. this series will sure be under my favourite anime lists.. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Xollence]

I really liked the ending, I wouldn't mind a second series. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[SeifeR]

whats this anime really about?
like what kinda time period and theme does it follow?

[Hotsuma]

If I were to sum up the anime in one sentence, it would be that the series is basically about the relationship between Lucy (Elf girl who is seen as a threat to mankind) and Kouta, who lost his memory of everything that happened as a child.

This anime takes place in Japan, modern time, more or less.

The series is very violent, and contains some really morbid scenes. But past that, you'll see a really well throught up plot, with unforgettable characters and deep drama between each of them.

[TheEvil1]

spoiler















i woudl say by the way it ended it left it open for more eps really well, the director showing the he had horns, we assume lucy still being alive and such, im hopeing for more but if niot ill just read the manga, only 2 chapters in english now tho

[Hotsuma]

Spoilers below




























Actually, according to different people, it more or less ends identically. You don't know what happens to Lucy in the manga, either.

As for the anime (cause it's so different), I'll believe it is, indeed, Lucy behind the door.

[Mut]

what a crappy ending. but it wasn't that good of a show anyway. it started out cool but it dipped down towards the end.

[Lefty]

Eh, that kind on ending dosn't go over well with the action buff's. I liked the ending cuz alot of the lose ends were taken care of. All of the characters grew and came to terms with all of their demons in one way or another. granted some of the stuff was left open which sucked some what but hey, you never get everything you want. So I'm happy with what I got.

[mythic]

I really enjoyed the ended. It's pretty much what I expected. A decent ending to a good anime is much better than a great ending to a bad anime i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Himura_san]

I have not seen this show, maybe later I'll watch it, but anyway does Elfen Lie?? ;p

[Swallow Your Soul]

*********POSSIBLE SPOILERS*********






That was a pretty good ending I thought, though it would have been nice to include a bit more action/fighting, I'm not that big a pure-action fan but it would have been nice if they had made time for a big epic battle for the last episode before the ending i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif. As for what happens with the organisation it'd be pretty cool imo to go into that in a 2nd series, though I'm pretty content with what we got from the series so I wouldn't mind either way...

[hikaru004]

It was a really good ending. However, they did leave alot of unanswered stuff and characters alive that could be fodder for another season or side story. I really hope that there is a second season with Lucy in it.

**spoiler**

I think too that everything points to Nyuu/Lucy at the door (the happy puppy, sea shell, music playing, you guys saying that she was alive in the manga at this point, her kickass nature- humans can't kill her- her only rival was Mariko).
Why was Kouta's adult picture in that research notebook? (That's still bugging me to no end!)
Why is the population going to dramatically change in 5 years? (All born as diclonius.)
Where's the true male diclonius?

**end of spoiler**

So how do you find the English version of the manga?

[TheEvil1]

the manga is being translated by 2 groupes got nyuu and someone else

anime fin hosts the torrents fr the got nyuu translations, they have 2 chapters out now,

[Everon]

Originally posted by: hikaru004
It was a really good ending. However, they did leave alot of unanswered stuff and characters alive that could be fodder for another season or side story. I really hope that there is a second season with Lucy in it.

**spoiler**

I think too that everything points to Nyuu/Lucy at the door (the happy puppy, sea shell, music playing, you guys saying that she was alive in the manga at this point, her kickass nature- humans can't kill her- her only rival was Mariko).
Why was Kouta's adult picture in that research notebook? (That's still bugging me to no end!)
Why is the population going to dramatically change in 5 years? (All born as diclonius.)
Where's the true male diclonius?

**end of spoiler**

So how do you find the English version of the manga?

It wouldn't make sense, in my opinion, that Nyuu is behind that door. Kouta really really wanted to stop her, he didn't want her to hurt anyone else, and in the end I think she understood that if she continued fighting that would only hurt Kouta more. The clock turning on I think is more of a symbol that time has moved on, from the past (the music box, the killing) to something better.

Why was Kouta in the notebook? Well students often have thier photo's taken for Professor reference. The lady was just looking through the student faculty list for a match.

Why is the population gonna change? Well apparently the virus that is creating the diclonius is spreading. Lucy was called the true femal diclonius because she could bear children, but she (for all we know) is not the original carrier of the virus, nor does it look like that top secret organization seem to have everything under control.

True male diclonius? Not sure what you mean by that, but both the Executive (can't remember his name) and his son were male diclonius. Maybe you're thinking that because there are females who can't reproduce, there are males who can't reproduce either? I wouldn't assume that they can't reproduce because in Episode 5, the scenes they show insinuate the professor raped lucy.

The only thing I wonder about is if the male diclonius can use vectors. Because the executive used a gun instead of vectors when he shot his son's assistant.

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Everon
It wouldn't make sense, in my opinion, that Nyuu is behind that door. Kouta really really wanted to stop her, he didn't want her to hurt anyone else, and in the end I think she understood that if she continued fighting that would only hurt Kouta more. The clock turning on I think is more of a symbol that time has moved on, from the past (the music box, the killing) to something better.

Why was Kouta in the notebook? Well students often have thier photo's taken for Professor reference. The lady was just looking through the student faculty list for a match.

Why is the population gonna change? Well apparently the virus that is creating the diclonius is spreading. Lucy was called the true femal diclonius because she could bear children, but she (for all we know) is not the original carrier of the virus, nor does it look like that top secret organization seem to have everything under control.

True male diclonius? Not sure what you mean by that, but both the Executive (can't remember his name) and his son were male diclonius. Maybe you're thinking that because there are females who can't reproduce, there are males who can't reproduce either? I wouldn't assume that they can't reproduce because in Episode 5, the scenes they show insinuate the professor raped lucy.

The only thing I wonder about is if the male diclonius can use vectors. Because the executive used a gun instead of vectors when he shot his son's assistant.


The general director/executive guy and his son were both fake diclonius. I'm pretty sure they injected themselves with the virus. They might not have vectors because they're fake and their horns don't even go through the skin (not that that is definitive proof or anything).

[Munsu]

Well who knows if they are fake... maybe male are only carriers while the virus is really manifested in the female side... or some shit like that...

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: Everon


Originally posted by: hikaru004
It was a really good ending. However, they did leave alot of unanswered stuff and characters alive that could be fodder for another season or side story. I really hope that there is a second season with Lucy in it.

**spoiler**

I think too that everything points to Nyuu/Lucy at the door (the happy puppy, sea shell, music playing, you guys saying that she was alive in the manga at this point, her kickass nature- humans can't kill her- her only rival was Mariko).
Why was Kouta's adult picture in that research notebook? (That's still bugging me to no end!)
Why is the population going to dramatically change in 5 years? (All born as diclonius.)
Where's the true male diclonius?

**end of spoiler**

So how do you find the English version of the manga?

It wouldn't make sense, in my opinion, that Nyuu is behind that door. Kouta really really wanted to stop her, he didn't want her to hurt anyone else, and in the end I think she understood that if she continued fighting that would only hurt Kouta more. The clock turning on I think is more of a symbol that time has moved on, from the past (the music box, the killing) to something better.
.


The clock turning could also represent a new Lucy/Nyuu, because her horns were destroyed, thus eliminating her thirst for blood.

[Aeon]

It had a better ending then Ugly Beautiful World to me. I was kinda hoping she killed the military guy his sole purpose was to get owned over and over.

[Nai]

Aw, that was such a sad ending. Both my favorite characters, Nana and Director Kurama, took the biggest blows. Oh well, I was happy to see that Mariko could finally gain some type of peace.

[Cyrano]

The official OST is avaliable at boxtorrents.com (http://www.boxtorrents.com/)

[intense]

does anybody have or know a site for the intrumental or the piano version of lillium(opening song) cuz i really wanttttt it...
(maybe this was asked before, but theres 20 pages to look from, so i just askedi/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif)

[Coyote]

you can also find it on hongfire, 2 versions of Lilium are on the OST, personally I like the saints version best i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[intense]

uhmmm the torrent is down since theres no download link for it and stuff... but whatever... thnx anyways coyote.
but if anybody can find it.. just post up the link plz.!

[HaZMaTiK]

boy i hope something else comes out like a OVA or something to really finish the series off proper

[intense]

not really.. i think it ended properly, just like any other anime would end.

[Windice06]

I just heard that ep 14 for Elfen Lied is going to come out.

[Munsu]

i read something about this a while ago... not sure if it's the same thing... what i had heard is that it is a dvd extra... like some random chapter in the manga was animated... so for now, dont think of it as a conclusion to the series

[Deblas]

can I get a torrent link. this anime has caught my attention.

[Munsu]

http://tracker.anime-fin.net:6969/

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
http://tracker.anime-fin.net:6969/

nice! thanks

EDIT: And I thought that samurai x was bloody. holy shit!

[Jin234]

does anyone know where ep 1 is

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Jin234
does anyone know where ep 1 is

Yeah, ADV will be releasing it in a few months.

Or, you could try reading the thread to find out where it is.

I found it in 5 seconds.

[Jin234]

thxs

[Deblas]

This is one fucked up series. damn I love it!

[Board of Command]

The only series that I think rivals this is KGNE

[Munsu]

i really wonder how you came up to the conclusion that KGNE is as fucked up as Elfen Lied

[dark maginn]

dude im new and just reading through the forums can you please tell me what is the anime yall talking about with all the violence

[Munsu]

we are talking about pokemon.........



i wonder what the topic of this thread is....

[dark maginn]

im new and im reading through the forums and what anime is so fucked up??

[dark maginn]

what anime has all that violence? im new so i dont know

[Deblas]

The thread title is elfen lied in the general anime section. sooo......

[dark maginn]

oh ok thanks

[dark maginn]

how do i download this violent anime i think i will like it

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[Ryllharu]

Read this thread. And Stop double posting.

[Y]

Originally posted by: dark maginn
how do i download this violent anime i think i will like it

You are a goddamn retard.

[Deblas]

look at page 21 to find it. I asked the same question. now, since your new there is a rule that your are breaking so i'll tell you before you get in trouble with the ghost mod.

do not double post. use the edit button. okay. and don't spam. so now that you know the basic rules..welcome to gotwoot dark maginn.

[dark maginn]

thanks for the heads up dude and um wheres page 21

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[Deblas]

I'm being nice but now your getting ridiculous buddy.

[Y]

deblas, he is obviously trolling. why the hell were you cordial in the first place?

[Deblas]

wait...wait...wait a moment. In episode 6 or 7 did kouta just kiss his own cousin!!? I'm really freakin confused. Is she her cousin or not!!?

[Munsu]

it's called incest

[Deblas]

that...is just....wrong

[Deblas]

dammit. double

[intense]

well... we've gone past that situation already. If you read the previous posts there is almost a whole debate on this matter.

[Munsu]

man i wish more people would discuss anime as it was discussed with this one... 400 posts... that's alot... most of the anime in here is rarely discussed

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: intense
well... we've gone past that situation already. If you read the previous posts there is almost a whole debate on this matter.

well I don't want to spoil myself so when I finish watching the series I'll come back and read the posts.

[Board of Command]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
i really wonder how you came up to the conclusion that KGNE is as fucked up as Elfen Lied
Not like that, I meant KGNE almost rivals this in awesomeness.

[Munsu]

ah i c... yeah KGNE was good

[Deblas]

great ending to the series. the only thing that bothers me is, does kouta love her cousin or lucy?

[Munsu]

Lucy obviously...

though he feels affection for his cousin

[Deblas]

so, are there any news of a sequel or ova of some sort. it seems obvious that it was lucy on the door. one more question though. the horns they have give them the power? so if she looses the horns then she will be normal?

EDIT: I was in anidb and it said something about a 14 eps?

[Xollence]

I don't think they do, remember that doctor had em too but had no powers.

[Munsu]

i think he didnt have powers because he was male...

and yeah i do think that she is powerless without her horns...

it would be nice to see a sequel or something

[relevasius]

if she were powerless without her horns, then there is no way that she would've survived being shot at while surrounded by all those guys, which would mean that's not her at the door. The horns are just part of her bone structure, I don't think that's where she get's the power from, but I really don't care, this was a great series.

I wonder if her losing the horns ties into when she and Kouta first met as children, and she explained how she hated her horns?

[Deblas]

looks like its true about what they say, there is going to be a special 14 episode in the dvd. that's good. i mean, only 13 episode long and so many unanswered question i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

[Jin234]

is there any other website besides iy4ever.net to get elfen lied there dl is a bit slow.

[jing]

Originally posted by: Jin234
is there any other website besides iy4ever.net to get elfen lied there dl is a bit slow.

Get a better internet connection.

[HaZMaTiK]

so is there episode 14 or what i like to know where it is or when its coming out

[Deblas]

I read somewhere that it was confirmed that there will be a special 14 episoded of the series that you can only find in the dvd when it releases.

[Hotsuma]

Yes, there is an episode 14 scheduled for a May 25th release. I believe it'll be packed with the last DVD for the regular series.

According to some people at AnimeSuki, the episode is called "In the Falling Rain" and it is supposed to show us the time Lucy spent in the Diclonius laboratory.

And for the ending, I think the directors should really just let it be. It might not be a concrete ending, but those kinda things are best left alone. I'd much rather know of the time that passed between Lucy as a child, and Lucy held within the lab.

[Deblas]

Ohh, so you mean its a prequel of Elfen Lied. That would be interesting but still I wanted them to go a little further in the ending. Its obviously Lucy at the door but I wanted to see how they reacted.

[Board of Command]

I heard rumors that Ep. 14 is a Nana special thing. Guess that was wrong then.

And I still think the ending is fine the way it is. If they show who's at the door, most likely Nyu, then they would create even more problems for the story such as how did she survive and what happened to Lucy. The clock/music box scene imo was a great way to end the show because it strongly hints that Nyu is at the door and Lucy is no more, while at the same time makes the viewer doubt that Lucy is truly gone.

[Deblas]

Today! I am a jounin!!

oh yea, and I think its Lucy not Nyu cause well she got her memory back permanently. So Its her but without the intent to kill everyone in site.

[Hotsuma]

Actually, from what others say about the manga, especially in the point in the manga that corresponds to the end of episode 13, the figure behind the door is NYUU, not Lucy. At that time, Lucy obviously has her horns shot off (and chipped by Mariko), so that explains the lack of horns on the figurers head.

However, as the series continues on in the books, Nyuu grows another pair of horns, ultimately bringing out Lucy again.

In the anime, it makes a lot of sense that it is Lucy/Nyuu behind the door. The dog is happy to see the figure, and the clock is pretty symbolic.

Edit - episode 14 and Nana gaiden are two different things.

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: Hotsuma
Actually, from what others say about the manga, especially in the point in the manga that corresponds to the end of episode 13, the figure behind the door is NYUU, not Lucy. At that time, Lucy obviously has her horns shot off (and chipped by Mariko), so that explains the lack of horns on the figurers head.

However, as the series continues on in the books, Nyuu grows another pair of horns, ultimately bringing out Lucy again.

Reeeally. So can I get a manga link then. I guess its okay if its Nyu. I just don't want to see the cousin incest thing ^_^

[Board of Command]

It's implied by the final scene. The music box (symbolizing Lucy) stops playing and the clock (symbolizing Nyu) starts ticking.

[Psyke]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
It's implied by the final scene. The music box (symbolizing Lucy) stops playing and the clock (symbolizing Nyu) starts ticking.

I didn't get that at first, and was like what the? But upon second viewing and some serious pondering it made perfect sense i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
It's implied by the final scene. The music box (symbolizing Lucy) stops playing and the clock (symbolizing Nyu) starts ticking.

Yeah, I like that scenario too. But you need to remember. Dicloniuses' horns do grow back. So no matter what, Lucy will ALWAYS be there, or will always return. Obviously, because Lucy has two brains.

[Board of Command]

Two brains or just two personalities? I never quite got that.

[Hotsuma]

They have two BRAINS.

[BravoSector]

the horns they have give them the power? so if she looses the horns then she will be normal?
I doubt it. Its like saying that your a different person just because you dye your hair. Well, not exactly, but close enough.



However, as the series continues on in the books, Nyuu grows another pair of horns, ultimately bringing out Lucy again.
The manga keeps going? Is there a download link?

And about all this talk of a sequel or 14th episode: I seriously doubt if (even though I'll be one of the many people watching it) continuing this series will be a smart idea. I think that making more episodes to explain everything will bring down the original series.

[Ryllharu]

From what I've heard, the mysterious eps 14 is more or less a prequel of the series, showing Lucy's time in the lab before the opening of the series. OR that it is some Nana Gaiden. Either case of the contents of eps 14 shows that there we'll be no extension on the ending.

It's really shocking that no one seems to be able to accept the open end of the series. An open ending is a lot better than a confiming ending that is shitty. We can pretend whatever we want from this, but some many of you are bitching about it.

Lots of series have ending in a somewhat (if not very) open ending. Let me list some of them (these are taken off Animenfo's top 200 list, so they are clearly well liked series that few people complained about, that, and I'm too lazy to think of all of them on my own, it would take too long): Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien (open ending), Cowboy Bebop (fairly open ending), Full Metal Alchemist (open ending), Fruits Basket (fairly open ending), Neon Genesis Evangelion and corresponding movies (hugely open ending), Love Hina (anime has open ending), Full Metal Panic (closer may be reached in 3rd season), and those are just in the top 50 to name a few.

I'll I'm saying is just let it go, you liked the series, the ending is left for you to speculate, so if you want a happy ending, just think of a good one and you can equally take a negative approach to the ending if you want to. I liked the way then ended it, and if you need closure that desperately, maybe you should learn to enjoy the times where the ending is left to you.

[Board of Command]

Your chances of finding a translated manga is 0%. There's only about 2 groups translating it and they're only on volume 2, while the anime ends at around volume 8.

[Board of Command]

err...

[Hotsuma]

Ryllharu : Yes, thank you. I liked the open ending of Elfen Lied. It's pretty obvious what was happening. I just freaking hate it when people bitch because they have zero imagination and must have everything spoonfed to them. The ending was a good one. It allows people to speculate and actually think about everything rather than having something they don't like be the conclusion.

That's why I think episode 14 being an extension is a huge mistake. Going back and tacking on an ending to an already concluded series, with such an ending ruins the hope everybody had with their own thoughts.

Honestly, I'd rather it "seem" to be Lucy/Nyuu behind the door, rather than somebody else being there, and thinking "WTF!"

[Deblas]

manga link? i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

[Board of Command]

Like I said, there's no point looking for Elfen Lied manga since it's not even close to where the anime ended.

[Deblas]

So it hasn't reached ep. 13 yet right? Still I want a link to find it that is not from anime-fin cause it doesnt work for me.

[HaZMaTiK]

um it has reached episode 13 to my know how i am waiting for that elusive episode 14

[Board of Command]

He's talking about the manga. Of course the anime's gotten to ep 13...

And for the manga, it will never "reach" ep 13 because the story changes after the flashback episodes of 8+9 between the anime and manga. As of now, the manga is still ongoing (in Japan) and it goes quite a bit beyond the anime.

[Munsu]

you can get some of the manga

here: http://www.tidwah.net/index.php?type=release


and here: http://manga.crystalnova.net/?series=Elfen%20Lied

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
you can get some of the manga

here: http://www.tidwah.net/index.php?type=release


and here: http://manga.crystalnova.net/?series=Elfen%20Lied

Christ, Finally!!! Thanks again Bud!! i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[monkeyman]

ok i liked this ending but to tell the truth i hated full metal alchimest ending. and i really wanted another season to fruit baskets, full metal panic is one of my favorite anime's ever ^^ and i sooo want another season of that (after full metal panic foofu or whatever). but ya i really wanted to see his expresion on his face when he saw lucy/nyu at the door. so i would like atleast one more episode filling in some of the questions. hmmmmm and you know lucy in a wedding dress wouldn't look to bad ;-)

[Munsu]

there's still the Full Metal Alchemist Movie to look forward, and there will be another Full Metal Panic later on this year...

[monkeyman]

=*) i'm so happy i'm gonna cry i know this is majorly off topic but do you know when they are coming out? and just so i'm on topic again i wanna see lucy in a weding dress.

[BravoSector]

and just so i'm on topic again i wanna see lucy in a weding dress. ???

[monkeyman]

awww come on your saying you don't want nyu/lucy get married to kouta? i mean they could have a big weding that gets crashed by the orginization. and then booom lucy kills all of the soldiers (while still in her weding dress)

[Racso]

I'm erasing my posts!! thanks!!! guys!!

[Board of Command]

Take it easy on the spam buddy, and try to stay on topic. You're new so try to make a respectable first impression. Just to warn you, not everyone's as tolerate as me.

[Hotsuma]

I'd like to see Lucy in a wedding dress, too...

Lucy is a very fun character, (and tragic) seeing her dolled up and married to Kouta would be a really good end for her. Of course, every now and then, she could revert to Nyuu.

[monkeyman]

thanks for advice. and i'm glad that someone understands. You just can't help but want Lucy to be happy with her tragic life. her heart that loved kouta so much but felt betrayed the hardships and lonliness she had to go through just because of something that she could not control. personaly i wish that her and nyu would turn into one personalty and live hapily with kouta. Thats just my person opinion though. ummmm and this is my first time on a forum so....i sort of don't know what spaming is..........

[NM]

Elfen Lied 14 is out in RAW! Lets hope the english subs come out soon. http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22904&page=1&pp=10

[intense]

NICE.... does it take place after episode 13????!
or is just another random episode

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: NarutoMaster
Elfen Lied 14 is out in RAW! Lets hope the english subs come out soon. http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22904&page=1&pp=10

WHAAAAAT!!!! (faints)

EDIT: Must...download...but..can't. Need..new....link (dies)

[NM]

Got some more Elfen Lied news! Theres an Elfen Lied OVA coming! I found the preview on Hongfire, its subbed by AnimeFin. http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?p=345159#post345159

[Deblas]

Guess these people didn't want to end the series with just that. Though I'm not complaining i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

No sub on the 14 eps. yet?

[Psyke]

Episode 14? Is it a new season or just a one ep. thing?

[NM]

@Deblas: I still havent seen anything on Hongfire of a subbed Episode 14 yet. I'll let ya know though.
@Psyke: Episode 14 is just a one episode thing (since it was released only on DVD). I'm not too sure what its about though, I think it has something to do with Nana.

[Board of Command]

No sub yet.

[Darkcarnage]

i personal love this anime, very well drawn, great story and made you think about a lot fo things. like can you lvoe someone that killed poepel ? what you do if someone you knew in your family started hitting on you ? also showed a few good things like being kind to poepel in need (nana) i dl all of it once i saw teh frist one and burnt them to dvd so i got a copy for ever :-) going to add eps 14 when it done and likely i'll buy the english dvd set also once it comes out to show the copmanies what animes i like :-)

on a personal side i truely felt bad for lucy she could not help she was diffent. she was born taht why and cause everyone talking behind her back and giving her the cold shoudlers and looks, it drove her in my option to being the mass killer she became. i think if everyone scared or ahted me cause i was diffent i would trun out teh same too really.

[monkeyman]

woohoooo an ova. I didn't mind how the series ended but i can't really say i wasn't looking foward to a small continuation. and still want to see lucy in a wedding dress ^^

[phlos]

The sub is out by digital panic!

http://evanidus.ath.cx:7420/torrents/%5Bdp%5DElfen_Lied_DVD_Special_%5BB6B748E7%5D.avi. torrent

Here is the page I found it if that doesn't work!

http://forum.digitalpanic.net/index.php?showtopic=5855

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: phlos
The sub is out by digital panic!

http://evanidus.ath.cx:7420/torrents/%5Bdp%5DElfen_Lied_DVD_Special_%5BB6B748E7%5D.avi. torrent

Here is the page I found it if that doesn't work!

http://forum.digitalpanic.net/index.php?showtopic=5855

You are my best friend!!

[monkeyman]

I watched the special. The time period is supose to be in the middle of the series right? It couldn't be after the series because nana's dad is still alive. No offence to anyone but i really didn't see the point to this special. I know that not everything has to help the story plot but still.......... i'm a simpleton some one plz help me.........

[Ryllharu]

It was funny, like most gaiden (side story) which is always good with a series like this. And yes, takes place between eps 10 and 11.

-There was a bit more character development with Nana, which is always good because she's hilarious.

-It showed the reason why Lucy so relentlessly killed Kisaragi in the first eps and showed the specifics of her capture.

So it basically gave the characters a little more depth, which can be more important than plot in many cases. It really doesn't have that much effect on the plot of the series, but I suppose if you insert it into the series as a whole, it would add more depth to the series by breaking the tension for that brief period. Alternate periods of comedy in any tragedy always heighten the experience.

If anyone was still expecting an 'ending,' I feel sorry for you. I liked the open ending and everyone already said that eps 14 was going to be a gaiden. There's really nothing wrong with the way they ended it if you have an imagination.

[Board of Command]

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Just watched it. Wow, amazing as expected from Elfen Lied. A great way to show Lucy's "other" past and explains a couple uncertain issues in the original series. Pure awesome.

[Hotsuma]

I watched it. It was a good episode. Nice change of pace from the otherwise gloomy atmosphere in the regular episodes.

[Swallow Your Soul]

It was pretty good, especially to see the specifics of Lucy's capture, although the cute comedy stuff bordered on obnoxious at the beginning of the episode...