Kabuto's Deception

[BurnMyFaith]

What's everybody's theory/speculation/prediction for Kabuto's apparent interuption of Tsunade and Orochimaru's meeting. My personal opinion is that the Kabuto present is simply a clone/illusion made by Tsunade....Not to sure though because Kabuto was off keeping tabs on Jiraiya, Shizune and Naruto...It seems a little to early stil for Kabuto to reveal his true plans (if any) To smart for it all I think.

[Metal Clock]

This was discussed pretty much in the ep 92 discussion. Anyway, it's pretty obvious that
it's the real Kabuto and not some illusion made by Tsunade, also, Orochimaru says
"Have you come here to betray me, Tsunade?" so she was probably not going heal
him but hurt him instead so Kabuto stopped her. That's what I think, and I'm pretty sure I'm right ^_^

[Assertn]

or maybe oro only pretended to want his arms to be healed.....and had kabuto decieve tsunade into believing that it was his fault for stopping the trade, instead of oro backing out.......and yeah.........i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[ZakuHan]

I think Kabuto is the one doing the betraying. Orochimaru just thinks Kabuto is saving him cause he doesn't expect Kabuto to betray him yet. Although from the preview it looks like Kabuto and Naruto might tangle, so maybe not. Who knows. Kabuto could have his own ambitions in all this and Naruto & co. don't have any part in it and therefore are expendable.

[Outtawack311]

If the end didnt tell you that Tsunade was betraying them then the preview did. If none of those help you believe that Tsunade was about to kill Oro, then look at the hints. Right before she is about to "heal" or it looks like she has a revelation and leaves surround her. Gee.......

[tensai]

what are kabutos ambitions, i dont really see anything hes doing on his own
hes only getting ordered around by orochimaru and oros giving him side options (maybe somewhat playing mind games into making him betray oro) - like the part where he tells him to kidnap sasuke, but also tells him if he wants to stop oro, then kabuto would have to kill sasuke instead

[Metal Clock]

Originally posted by: ZakuHan
I think Kabuto is the one doing the betraying. Orochimaru just thinks Kabuto is saving him cause he doesn't expect Kabuto to betray him yet.

Kthnx, keep thinking stuff while everyone else tries to see the obvious.

Regards

~Clock Of Metal

[Meatball Clock]

Well, Metal Clock is right. And that's the end of it. i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif

[Knives122]

I think Kabuto stopped the two from their little indever b/c Kabuto has discovered that a meteor is going to hit earth thus destroying, it so hes trying to tell them, whats the use we're all going to die in about a half an hour any wayi/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Metal Clock]

Originally posted by: Meatball Clock
Well, Metal Clock is right. And that's the end of it.
Tell me something I did not already know, my brother of clock what is made of meatwad.

[Assertn]

i think the clocks need to stop bashing other people for their interpretations on something that the episode left unexplained

kthnx

[Meatball Clock]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
i think the clocks need to stop bashing other people for their interpretations on something that the episode left unexplained

kthnx


Oh it wasn't left unexplained. Oro said it out loud and clear. If you wait just 3 seconds longer and actually bother to watch the whole episode, you will hear Oro say: "What's the meaning of this, Tsunade?".

So it's hardly our bad, just for pointing out the obvious. kthnx

[mezu]

Kabuto was obviously protecting oro. He was raised in the medical field and he prob knows a lot of medical attacks. Tsunade was trying to do something to oro, kabuto picked it up and stopped it. End of story.

[kooshi]

Originally posted by: mezu
Kabuto was obviously protecting oro. He was raised in the medical field and he prob knows a lot of medical attacks. Tsunade was trying to do something to oro, kabuto picked it up and stopped it. End of story.

Yeah, go mezu!! Hehe, when I first saw that, I was like, "What the hell is this?!" After hearing Tsunade at the end, hehe, it's quite an interesting and tricky plot. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Meatball Clock]

THANK YOU mezu. Finally someone who knows what's going on. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[ZakuHan]

Oh it wasn't left unexplained. Oro said it out loud and clear. If you wait just 3 seconds longer and actually bother to watch the whole episode, you will hear Oro say: "What's the meaning of this, Tsunade?".

Course it was left unexplained.. it won't be explained til next episode, that's why they left us in the dark like that. Besides, just cause Orochimaru thinks Tsunade is the one deceiving him, does not mean he's right. He could be easily misunderstood, that's how betrayal works, playing off the mis-assumptions of the person you're betraying.

I've said it before, and it bears repeating: Just cause a character thinks he's right or says something, does not mean they ARE right.



kthnx

What is this? You've said it twice now and can't think of a way to pronounce it.

[Kale Ironfist]

kay thanks (what else do you expect ZakuHan?)

[Metal Clock]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
i think the clocks need to stop bashing other people for their interpretations on something that the episode left unexplained

kthnx

I would write a serious reply to you, but 1. I respect you because you seem to be one of the ones
on this board with something behind your forehead and 2. It would start some Internet-drama
and we don't want that, now do we? So instead of replying seriously, I will just say ASDFDASFA.
END



Originally posted by: Knives122
I think Kabuto stopped the two from their little indever b/c Kabuto has discovered that a meteor is going to hit earth thus destroying, it so hes trying to tell them, whats the use we're all going to die in about a half an hour any way

That is a pretty good theory actually, your'e now on my list of intelligent people. :thumbsup:

With love

-Your dear clock what is made of the finest metal

[Assertn]

lol, well its good to know that me posting on this thing everyday gets me some respect i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

i try to keep my posts here on an unbiased level....especially since i read the manga and i know what happens
personally, i like to support the idea of "thinking outside the box", and i like to see the way people interpret events that leave you in the dark

any agreements/arguments i make is from the perspective of one who wouldnt know what happens next, because its not only more fun to do so, but keeps people from reading between the lines and figuring out what happens next based on what i say

it was deliberate of the producers to make 92 leave people wondering about whats gonna happen next.....so i think its best just to leave it that way i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[Garlannd]

Originally posted by: BurnMyFaith
What's everybody's theory/speculation/prediction for Kabuto's apparent interuption of Tsunade and Orochimaru's meeting. My personal opinion is that the Kabuto present is simply a clone/illusion made by Tsunade....Not to sure though because Kabuto was off keeping tabs on Jiraiya, Shizune and Naruto...It seems a little to early stil for Kabuto to reveal his true plans (if any) To smart for it all I think.

1. You're a retard and you stopped watching the second the screen turned black.

2: you missed him saying TSUNADE! a few seconds after the screen turned black

3. You should wait till the credits if not watch through the credits to make sure the episode ist TRUELY FINISHED.


The end.

Also he had to retreat cuz he was afraid of jiraya, he can't handle all 3 of them.

Hes a medical expert, he knows when somethings not right. He may not be as good as Tsunade but he knows malpractice when he sees it.

This guy was the adopted son of Konoha's combat medical specialist afterall.

[ZakuHan]

He was the son of Tsunade?? All they said was that he was the son of a distinguished medical family, not a "specialist", a title which only Tsunade falls under that we've seen. Whatever happened to enforcing the flaming rules anyway?

And yeah, I agree with Assertn, it's good to think out of the box. I never like to believe what they put right in front of my face cause it makes it too easy to switch it around on you i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[HokageVirus]

Originally posted by: ZakuHan
that we've seen.

remember that little addon. there could have been another. and jsut after thinking outside the box was mentioned too....sad really.

[Feannag]

I could only piece two possible situations from this.

1. Kabuto is actually betraying Orochimaru and/or conspired with Tsunade somehow to kill him.

2. Tsunade was actually planning on killing Orochimaru and Kabuto stopped it before it happened.

Either case there are a lot of confounding variables. One being Tsunade didn't bring two sacrifices to revive her lover and little brother.

But a lot of variables like that usually means a very good fight.

[Assertn]

there can be more than one medical specialist......
gai called lee a "taijutsu specialist"....does that mean lee's better than taijutsu than everyone else, including gai?
it just means that they are very experienced with whatever their main skill is.

Yes, feannag has a point........#1 would be a very valid scenario with what happened....although the previews might suggest otherwise
with the two sacrifice thing.....its not like tsunade had to bring 2 sacrifices at the same time that she goes to heal oro's arms......oro needs to have his arms healed first anyway, in order for him to be able to perform the resurrection jutsu

[SenninJimmy]

Kabuto is sweet