Random speculation

[Halo2298]

I was just noticing that Kakashi and Jiraiya seem to be familiar with each other. I mean, it could stem from any number of things, really. I mean, Jiraiya trained the 4th, who trained Kakashi. But the hair's the same and all, and then they're kinda linked through the book... It'd be interesting anyway, huh? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Mut]

no.

EDIT:

wtf. what did i do wrong now? the question asked if we thought it was possible for kakashi to be jiraiya's son. so i responded with a simple no. did you want me to sugar coat it and give it a kiss too?

[Halo2298]

Now are you talking from sage knowledge? Or just out of your ass again?

[GhostKaGe]

jiraiya is a horny git he probley has who knows how many love children he could have fathered half the village i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[rickytan]

hey, kakashi's pretty horny too, reading that come come paradise book or something like that. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif Maybe it's just a white hair trend.

[Krbadass]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
no.

EDIT:

wtf. what did i do wrong now? the question asked if we thought it was possible for kakashi to be jiraiya's son. so i responded with a simple no. did you want me to sugar coat it and give it a kiss too?

Whats with the edit?

[Uchiha Barles]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
no.

EDIT:

wtf. what did i do wrong now? the question asked if we thought it was possible for kakashi to be jiraiya's son. so i responded with a simple no. did you want me to sugar coat it and give it a kiss too?

Apparently is you put a smiley next to everything, it lightens the so called "blow", real or imagined. For instance: "Fuck you buddy! I hope you die of cancer and your family gets caught in a carwreck, and you can all burn in blackest hell!"

i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gifi/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gifi/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif


Oh, and I like the idea of half the village being bastard children of Jiraiya. So, who knows, maybe he is kakashi's dad.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Krbadass


Originally posted by: Mut@t@
no.

EDIT:

wtf. what did i do wrong now? the question asked if we thought it was possible for kakashi to be jiraiya's son. so i responded with a simple no. did you want me to sugar coat it and give it a kiss too?

Whats with the edit?

first, all i posted was a 'no' but it seems i made halo2298 angry somehow. so, i responded but i didn't want to put up a OT post so i just edited my current post.

[r3n]

or mebe kakashi is his dad!!!!!

who cares really, kakashi jst knows him cos kakashi is a jounin and jiriaya is also a high ranking ninja in konoha, corse they can confer about things. saying they might be related is jst stupid really, the only link they have is the dirty books. how sick would it be if you were reading a dirty book ur dad wrote...

[kakash11]

Lol why does everyone in Naruto have to somehow be related to someone else? really like r3n said, who cares? they are both cool thats their only relation i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Why does everyone always hate on mut@t@? hes the man, let him speak i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[PSJ]

jiraiya and kakashi are not related.

[Feannag]

I don't think we're certain of who did train Kakashi, though hints were dropped he knows Orochimaru.

[jing]

Just what is Jiraiya's last name anyways, i bet we could find out immediately......
cuz hatake kakashi, and ______ jiraiya.
and that will explain that they are not related.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: Feannag
I don't think we're certain of who did train Kakashi, though hints were dropped he knows Orochimaru.

kakashi was trained by 4th hokage.

[Halo2298]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@ no. EDIT: wtf. what did i do wrong now? the question asked if we thought it was possible for kakashi to be jiraiya's son. so i responded with a simple no. did you want me to sugar coat it and give it a kiss too? Whats with the edit? first, all i posted was a 'no' but it seems i made halo2298 angry somehow. so, i responded but i didn't want to put up a OT post so i just edited my current post.


Well, it's just that every time I bring up a topic that I think worthy of speculation, you instantly shoot it down without any explanation why. I mean, you say it's not possible for Jiraiya to be Kakashi's dad, so that means you know one of two things: 1) Who Kakashi's father is, or 2) That Jiraiya is incapable of having children.

Do you know either of those things? The way you respond is always in the same rude manner. So then I asked if you you were saying that out of sage knowledge(aka. actually knowing something we don't) or just talking out your ass(which is what you usually do cause you can't help yourself).

Anyway, that's all.

[Halo2298]

r mebe kakashi is his dad!!!!! who cares really, kakashi jst knows him cos kakashi is a jounin and jiriaya is also a high ranking ninja in konoha, corse they can confer about things. saying they might be related is jst stupid really, the only link they have is the dirty books. how sick would it be if you were reading a dirty book ur dad wrote...

Well, it's not uncommon in anime to have hidden family relations among all the characters. It's not limited to anime, either. I mean, soap operas, prime time shows such as "The X-Files"... It's all over the place. Besides, it almost fits, anyway. Kakashi ends up training Naruto(who many, including me, believe to be the 4th Hokage's son) in respect for his teacher, the 4th, so couldn't the 4th have done the same for his teacher, Jiraiya, and end up teaching Jiraiya's son, Kakashi?

[-ANBU-Sasuke-]

Well Mut@t@ is a bit weridi/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif , but hes pretty straight foward about answers and replys, unlike some people who drag on about something on and on and on, and it doesnt relate to teh subject. His attuitude could change, but i say Keep him the way he is and dont get on his case. I dont come to you and say, Hey why are u always nice?

[chambers]

i think its possible there was a kind of edge abotu there discussion abotu naruto, the atmosphere was off. i think it would make a fantastic twist.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Halo2298
Well, it's just that every time I bring up a topic that I think worthy of speculation, you instantly shoot it down without any explanation why. I mean, you say it's not possible for Jiraiya to be Kakashi's dad, so that means you know one of two things: 1) Who Kakashi's father is, or 2) That Jiraiya is incapable of having children.

Do you know either of those things? The way you respond is always in the same rude manner. So then I asked if you you were saying that out of sage knowledge(aka. actually knowing something we don't) or just talking out your ass(which is what you usually do cause you can't help yourself).

Anyway, that's all.

blah blah. ok.

1. i don't know who kakashi's father is.
2. i don't know if jiraiya is capable of having children.
3. if jiraiya and kakashi were related they would've shown both of them together more just like how they showed konohamaru and the 3rd.
4. jiraiya's and kakashi's hair are not the same. jiraiya's is long and white while kakashi's isn't long nor white.
5. the only reason why they're 'linked' through the same book is because they're also 'linked' through the 4th, who was jiraiya's student and kakashi's teacher.
6. if you come up with something that boggles my mind, i will put some deep thoughts into my posts. however, this was not the case.

EDIT: response to below:

lol, true... however, i did not mean to flame anyone.

[Kale Ironfist]

IE, if you had a logical speculation, Mut@t@ would not have flamed you

[Eurasian]

"flame" yeah, i can see it in this thread.

jiraiya is horny, but he doesn't get girls...unless he pays them...

sure, jiraiya and kakashi are horny, but so are most men.

[lasaire]

kay, okay, children, keep this from being a flame war or it will get closed.

secondly, I never would have paid attention to this theory, but for a piece of fanfiction on fanfiction.net by Aoi Kami Sarah called Agete Toritsukete: To Give and Take which presents quite a nice view on Kakashi's parentage and how the Fourth came to teach.

but, like the connection between Asuma and the 3rd, this will have to remain pure speculation until actual canon information is given to us by Kishimoto-sensei.

[kaigan]

no

[WarkWark]

who would have thought that a japanese cartoon forum would have kids posting! geez.

[Death BOO Z]

*bullshit theory limiter removel... level 1, level 2, level 3*

here's another theory, while we're at it...
ebisu is also related to them, he's Kakashi's brother and Jiraya's son.

seeing how all of them are perverted jounins, and were trainning Naruto, it's kinda of logical...
now, if you're asking why Ebisu is so cold towards jiraya, it's becuase Jiraya ran away from taking care of him and Kakashi while they were still kids, so he could write hentai.
becuase of that, Ebisu decided to become a tutoer, and not to leave kids alone without guidence, and also, he developed a hate for porn, becuase he blames the hentai indstury for taking away his father, and that's why he was so pissed when he saw someone (jiraya) peeking on the girls open bath.
on the other end of this story, there's jiraya, who resented Ebisu for not being a genius like Kakashi, and becuase of ebisu hate for porn, Jiraya suspects that Ebisu is gay, so he was afraid that he'll fuck him in the ass, so he sent the frog out.

and even after that, when they talked, they used a too-formal language, like how shinji (evangelion) talks to his father...

and about Kakashi, i think he told Naruto to train with Ebisu becuase he believed Naruto's sexy no jutsu could awaken Ebisu hentai genes and they'll all have a happy family reunion at a X rated movie.




if anyone tries to say i'm wrong, he should be shot for being stupid.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: Halo2298


Originally posted by: Mut@t@ no. EDIT: wtf. what did i do wrong now? the question asked if we thought it was possible for kakashi to be jiraiya's son. so i responded with a simple no. did you want me to sugar coat it and give it a kiss too? Whats with the edit? first, all i posted was a 'no' but it seems i made halo2298 angry somehow. so, i responded but i didn't want to put up a OT post so i just edited my current post.


Well, it's just that every time I bring up a topic that I think worthy of speculation, you instantly shoot it down without any explanation why. I mean, you say it's not possible for Jiraiya to be Kakashi's dad, so that means you know one of two things: 1) Who Kakashi's father is, or 2) That Jiraiya is incapable of having children.

Do you know either of those things? The way you respond is always in the same rude manner. So then I asked if you you were saying that out of sage knowledge(aka. actually knowing something we don't) or just talking out your ass(which is what you usually do cause you can't help yourself).

Anyway, that's all.

he wasnt rude he just said no. and there is no possiblity for kakashi to be jiraiya's son. you dont even need an explanation for it.

[jing]

Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
*bullshit theory limiter removel... level 1, level 2, level 3*

here's another theory, while we're at it...
ebisu is also related to them, he's Kakashi's brother and Jiraya's son.

seeing how all of them are perverted jounins, and were trainning Naruto, it's kinda of logical...
now, if you're asking why Ebisu is so cold towards jiraya, it's becuase Jiraya ran away from taking care of him and Kakashi while they were still kids, so he could write hentai.
becuase of that, Ebisu decided to become a tutoer, and not to leave kids alone without guidence, and also, he developed a hate for porn, becuase he blames the hentai indstury for taking away his father, and that's why he was so pissed when he saw someone (jiraya) peeking on the girls open bath.
on the other end of this story, there's jiraya, who resented Ebisu for not being a genius like Kakashi, and becuase of ebisu hate for porn, Jiraya suspects that Ebisu is gay, so he was afraid that he'll fuck him in the ass, so he sent the frog out.

and even after that, when they talked, they used a too-formal language, like how shinji (evangelion) talks to his father...

and about Kakashi, i think he told Naruto to train with Ebisu becuase he believed Naruto's sexy no jutsu could awaken Ebisu hentai genes and they'll all have a happy family reunion at a X rated movie.




if anyone tries to say i'm wrong, he should be shot for being stupid.

It actually makes more sense than kakashi being jiraiya's son.

well while were at it, how about Sakura and Ino being cousins?

[PSJ]

hmm i think that itachi and orochimaru were lovers and itchi broke up with orochimaru thats why he left akatsuki.

[ZakuHan]

Why do you guys have to be such asses? I don't see why there's no possibility, meaning there's plenty of room to theorize, and none to make fun of someone for doing it. Talk about oppression i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Himura_san]

Another meaningless thread!! Grrr!

[Assertn]

it IS very possible though.......since it seems the generations of master/pupil in respect to the hokage lineage do have connections in terms of family as well

but judging from the conversation that took place between kakashi and jiraiya when jiraiya told him about the akatsuki, it really didnt seem like they were all that close like they'd be family or anything

[jing]

Wouldnt kakashi call Jiraiya , "Dad"? Jijueh

[Kale Ironfist]

Chichiue (pronounced chi-chi-weh)

[lasaire]

Ok, this thread has run it's course and will be closed.

Any and all theories about a given person's parentage are just that, THEORIES, and until canon evidence is given, this argument cannot be settled one way or another.