zabuza's sword

[koreanriceboi]

is there such thing? and if there is whats the name and where can i go to see it or buy it

[kaigan]

what the.......

[kuro]

go to http://www.weaponmasters.com/ they will make you a custom sword if you give them a description, dimensions, material, etc. im not sure bout the price tho, ur probably gonna have to sell something expensive for the money... i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Mut]

wasn't one thread enough for asking about zabuza sword...?

[Coolman]

Lol, pretty nice site. I doubt your parents will appreciate a huge sword arriving are your door though... haha.

[Knives122]

yes, good site that means I can get the thing that was put on the sword in The Last Samurai put on the sword im getting for my b-day

[Coolman]

Originally posted by: Knives122
yes, good site that means I can get the thing that was put on the sword in The Last Samurai put on the sword im getting for my b-day

Isn't there an age restriction in buying their products? Some of the stuff there looks pretty sick.

[Knives122]

Ill get my dad to buy it for me

[Coolman]

Wanna get me some throwing knives? Lol.

BTW, whoever started this thread, why do you want Zabuza's Sword anyways. The sword is huge, and bulky, would weigh a ton, and be impossible to swing unless your really well built.

http://www.weaponmasters.com/index.html?ID=e7bf885adeb2bd72c529cd3b4ac5be85&FDX =&FMAX=&SORT=&ITEM=SHI001&SORT=&FDX=&FMAX=

Close nuff? Doesn't weigh that much afterall.

[PSJ]

nice site, isnt their laws against owning swords? would like a authentic 16th century katana tho i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif that would rock.

[Coolman]

I like the Funtional Katana, or Samurai Katana, relatively plain looking, but can be used, and is a good size.

But. Yeah, I bet there is laws agaisnt swords... just they aren't that tough, heh.

[Eurasian]

i think u have to be 18 or older to buy swords.

[Einzelgänger]

There are no laws against owning swords in any US state exept Main. There are however laws agains carrying swords, plain and simple, you can't unless within your home, or the blade is rounded, ie non sharpened.

Same basic sword as Coolman posted up there but made of a diff metal, weighs even less cus its aluminum.
http://www.weaponmasters.com/index.html?ID=e7bf885adeb2bd72c529cd3b4ac5be85&SOR T=PRICE_UP&ITEM=BC-006

Swords online used to have that style of sword that was sharpened, It was aluminum too but weighed 7 lbs.

There were swords the size of Zabuza's, I don't think they traditionaly looked like his, but they were that big.

[Coolman]

Well, Zabuza's in the show seemed to shrink and grow from scene to scene, but it was longer... and maybe a little wider, and rounded at the end... The one I posted looks the exact same though... Although these pics give a better look. Good find.

BTW, what about owning a sword in Canada?

[AlbinoFury]

whatd be really cool to have is a handful of kunais, cant seem to find those for sale anywhere though

[Einzelgänger]

Kunai are next to imposible to find, you kina have to ask a blade smith to make them for ya, that gets expencive...

Oh that sword you posted Coolman, its Clouds Buster Sword from FF 7, But it is similar.

Canada I don't belive there are any restrictions on owning there, hell I know a blade smith lives there. http://www.americanbladesmith.com/
Hes listed somewhere in their master smith section.

Heh I think you can even carry a sword in Canada, don't take my word look into the laws =P.

Oh on the Kunai I have a link for someone who makes non metal ones, props, not good for throen ether but they look cool. http://www.mad-props.com/catalog.html
Not the cheapest thing in the world ether.

[Coolman]

Lol, somehow I doubt that me carrying around a sword would end up to well if a cop passed by. Although it would be quite entertaining.

Those Kunai are sweet. I may get one for fun, but they seem a lil short, if the handle was about an inch longer, and blade was two it would be better, they look small in that guys hand.

[Einzelgänger]

Ya they do look kina small, I think that would be close to the right size though.

Your right if you passed a cop with one it might not turn out too well. I duno like I said look into the laws there. Just do like a serch for sword laws in your province.

[Coolman]

Well. On average, the blade is about 30 inches, so 2 1/12 feet... Wow, that is pretty short.

It should be at least another foot or two.

[kaigan]

you can have all the swords and kunais in the world. all i need is a gun.

[Coolman]

Kaigen - Hahahaha. I don't want a real gun... you can use it. Paintballing is fun though... go buy some gear and play.

http://www.weaponmasters.com/index.html?ID=fc7e550c8bc10e41a0bbb8109df78ed4&FDX =&FMAX=&SORT=QUALITY_DN&ITEM=WM-1834&SORT=QUALITY_DN&FDX=&FMAX=

Theres a nice horse killing sword.

[Kolimbursi]

omg Zatoichi O_O

this sword rocks:

http://www.weaponmasters.com/index.html?ID=fc7e550c8bc10e41a0bbb8109df78ed4&SOR T=QUALITY_DN&ITEM=SH2114

if u know how to use it ^^;


this sword is known for his:
Sharpness: Extremely Sharp i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Coolman]

http://www.weaponmasters.com/index.html?ID=fc7e550c8bc10e41a0bbb8109df78ed4&FDX =&FMAX=&SORT=QUALITY_DN&ITEM=KE-2042&SORT=QUALITY_DN&FDX=&FMAX=

Not very sharp... but look at that handle... Haha, the handle is as long as some swords blades...

[Kolimbursi]

another great masterpiece:

http://www.weaponmasters.com/index.html?ID=fc7e550c8bc10e41a0bbb8109df78ed4&SOR T=&ITEM=KE2044&AD=588273c9e58457e88080be076874035 4

the sakabatou i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Einzelgänger]

Just a tip to any of you who are buying a sword. Unless you want to pay alot more money for a sword with a nice design in the blade, don't buy a Damascus sword or weapon. Damascus steel is just 2 grades of steel that are pounded into one sheet and twisted or shaped in some way to warp the design and make it look nice. They can caust upwords of $700, For a good Tanto made of Damascus you can get for maby $500.

It doesn't help in the blade strength. But it does look nice.

***Edit***

No Dachi's are realy nice, I have one. They are nice and long XD. 40" is a lot longer than it seems just so ya know. So is 2' for a blade.

[Coolman]

Guessing No Dachi is the one I posted? Haha, its nice... but to expensive for a sword I will never use. All my money goes to paintball X_X.

[Einzelgänger]

Ya. But in truth any sword on that site is acctualy kind of cheap compared to swords that are hand forged. The max a sword on that site costs is around $2000 which is alot. But when you look at a well made Damascus Katana that was hand forged, they can be up to and over $7500. Heck I have seen one go for $10,000. Its all in how much you want the weapon and if you are a collecter or not.

Only reason the swords on that site arn't too much is that they are almost exclusively factory made. Though some are hand made they are made out of steel that is much easyer to work with and most of the time its under 100 folds in the steel. That makes a huge diffrence in the price.

Im rambling sorry.

[Coolman]

Of course. Everything on that site can probably be found cheaper elsewhere, or for the same amount of money, something that is better quality... but its still cool to look at.

100 folds of steel still must take a long time though, whats the highest you have heard of? 700?

And even if... $300 CAD is still alot of someone like me who doesn't know the first thing about swordfighting with anytype of sword, nevermind with a Katana. But i'm wondering, what stuff do you own? Got a pic? Is it just for display, or do you know how to actually wield them?

Also, I spend $50+ each time I ball... so I have no spare cash.

[Einzelgänger]

$50+ on paint ball wow man. I paintball to and that seems high.

$7000+ not 700. 100 folds is acctualy not that hard to get, one sword I watched the guy make, well it took about 3 days but still. Its 300 folds of stainless steel. Cost me about $1500. Its a katana.

As for my collection I have about 30 or so swords, I know how to use some, rapiers, tantos, katanas. But most are for pure display. They range from Tanto, Katana, Rapier, Long Sword, Hand and a Half Sword, Scotish Claymore, Saber, a few Fencing Foils, and a few costom made swords.

They range in price as well, from $200-$6000. I'm a collecter lol. But I'm wanting to get into making swords, trying to get an apprienticeship.

I can get some pics, not sure how long it will take me to get them, depends if I can find my dad digital camra.

[Coolman]

When I wrote 700, I meant folds, not price.

Paintballing, well, thats CAD, not US, keep that in mind. Also, keep in mind alot of US places, people can get paint for $25-35 a case USD, at the moment, the cheapest place around here is $100 CAD for RPS.

They are opening a BYOP field near me though.

30 swords? Haha. Damn. I like the look of Claymore/ long swords the most, ie, the medival type. Although learning using a Katana would interested me the most out of any sword.

Whats a Tanto though?

[Einzelgänger]

A Tanto is like a dagger, just modled after the katana.

Ya I forgot that it was more expencive in CAD.

And the fold, 700 would be alot, but me guess is its not imposible. Most I have seen is around 500.

Hehe ya I like knowing how to use them to a point. And for rapiers and fencing, well I have been doing that for a long time. Fencing is soo fun.

[Deblas]

The ninja weapons are pretty cool but maybe because they have throwing knives they dont include kunais

[Einzelgänger]

Well call it what you like but Kunai translates directly to Throwing Knife. Its just the spacific style of throwing knife that they use, the acctual name of which is Earth Digger. No idea why Earth Digger but that is what thy are called. They are just so hard to find because yes no one makes them, and the people that do, make fake or practice ones, seem like they never make metal ones, I think it make b/c of the odd shape, it would be hard to grind that edge down to that angle, on all 8 flat surfaces.

I know too much about weapones. -_-

**Edit**

Forgot to say something, Kunais do not exsist in any matial ars surplus, for the fact that the use of the weapon was for the most part unknown, and is not taught in Ninjutsu or Taijutsu, they were used they know that, but the simple fact that they were never seen in use by anyone who lived long enough to tell about it and the ninja died befor thy had a chance to betray the trust of their kin.

I'm a lost culture, and history buff. Love all that kind of stuff.

[koreanriceboi]

i can spend upto 5 bills on a sword but only if it resembled zabuza's sword cuz that shiets crzy haha even though i probably cant swing it around or carry it with me to the mall

[Einzelgänger]

Depending on where you live you could always ask a Bladesmith to make you one. Just a thought.

[Coolman]

Originally posted by: koreanriceboi
i can spend upto 5 bills on a sword but only if it resembled zabuza's sword cuz that shiets crzy haha even though i probably cant swing it around or carry it with me to the mall

Thats like asking to run around a mall with a loaded rocket launcher...

BTW, I still want sword pics! i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Einzelgänger]

Oh oh ok, umm can I get your e-mail, I just don't wana spam pics. =p

[Coolman]

M_Wong018@hotmail.com

[koreanriceboi]

how much would you think it would cost for a life size replica... cuz i dont think 5 bills would be enough...

[Einzelgänger]

Depends on the metal, and the number of folds in the metal. But for about 100 folds and stainless steel, most likely 600 -700. I could be wrong, It might be higher, it might be lower, but you can specify a price range to a smith and he could work out the metal and number of folds to fit the price, at least I think they might be able to.

Of coars thet is a huge ass sword so it might be upwords of $800 just for 100 fold stainless. Not too sure, depends on the Smith too realy.

I'll E-mail those a little later Coolman. But it should be today, if I don't get too buisy.

[Tofu #2]

THAT FANTASY SWORD IS CLOUD'S SWORD!!!!!! IT EVENS GOTS THE 2 MATERIA SLOTS!!!! but the handle's red.

[Einzelgänger]

Originally posted by: Einzelgänger
Oh that sword you posted Coolman, its Clouds Buster Sword from FF 7, But it is similar.

I said that on the first page. -_-

I know I posted a link to almost the same sword, (diff metal) But still. I did say it.

[Daniel of Lorien]

Originally posted by: kaigan
you can have all the swords and kunais in the world. all i need is a gun.

A gun isn't as much fun... I perfer murder up close and personal... nothing like the spray of your human prey to make you feel good about yoursel.... errr... umm... yeah... guns sure...

[Einzelgänger]

I hate guns to the utmost degree. There is no honer in shooting someone. Though I do own a few. >.> Mainly rifles, and mainly long range rifles. I hate to say it but I do like sniping. (not people... YET)

[dragon]

hmmm
does a bb gun wif a scope count?

[Einzelgänger]

bb guns don't realy shoot far enough to have to use a scope...

At least not from what I have seen, and used. Then agin I can no scope out to 75 yards.

[Coolman]

Scopes are gay IMO.

[Einzelgänger]

I only use them in competiton shooting. And training. By competition I mean me and my friends show off at the shooting range. 1000 yards is one hell of a distence. I think that only the true tournament snipers can no scope that far. And they are damned good at it too. (Though it takes nearly an hour to shoot once.)

Anywho, I go uot hunting alot, and never use a scope. Well sometimes, but not always.

[mezu]

I am not full sure, but i think his sword is called a Zanbatou. Its the same sword used in Rurouni Kenshin, which Sanoske has. This sword is big, powerful and slow.

[kuro]

zabuza's sword's name translates to "decapitating blade" or something that has to do with cutting ppls heads off. its a fantasy sword that only exists in kishimoto's world and has no place in the real world. a zanbatou is a sword used to cut the legs of horses to bring them down. they may be similar in look but thats all.

[Ildiran]

...I wouldn't buy a sword from that website. I'm not an expert on swords or anything, but at prices such as those (0-1000 dollars), you are not getting a high quality, or very sharp sword.

You guys thought 100 or 300 layers of folded steel was good? Try 320,000.

Look at the second sword down on this page:


http://www.angelsword.com/oriental_swords/as-oriental1.html



Angel Sword Folded Steel Katana (AS013-156) $10,000

Weight: 3 pounds, 12 ounces
POB: 6 inches
LOA: 36 5/8 inches
LOB: 27 inches
Steel: Folded-steel with 320,000 layers
Finish: High polish with hamon
Blade Width - Hilt: 1 inch, Tip: 3/16 inches
Blade Thickness: 1/4 inches
Handle: Stingray skin, silk wrap, with minuki and carnelian
Guard: Traditional tsuba
Scabbard: Tulipwood and ebony laminate


As you can see, a high quality sword can cost up to $10,000, maybe even more. If you want to buy a sword, I think you should buy one from an expert swordsmith, like the man who makes the swords on the website I linked in this post (www.angelsword.com).

[kAi]

holy shit...thats one folded sword...
nice looking sword too!

[Ildiran]

Hell yeah it's an awsome sword, another sword from the same smith was used to cut 14 tatami mats rolled together. Each mat is about the difficulty of severing someones upper leg, imagine what the katana could do.

[Celelorien]

hai, Zanbatou. created way back when in the feudal age when cavalry was introduced, meant to cut through rider and horse at the same time.

... faded out pretty quick though, as due to the sheer size and weight of the thing, very few people at all could wield the thing, much less lift it. X3

edit: and yeah, that's a pretty sweet sword. but most of us don't have 10 grand to spend like that. so swordsonline is pretty good quality stuff for all of us non-millionaires. =P

[KaneInferno]

Originally posted by: Ildiran
...I wouldn't buy a sword from that website. I'm not an expert on swords or anything, but at prices such as those (0-1000 dollars), you are not getting a high quality, or very sharp sword.

You guys thought 100 or 300 layers of folded steel was good? Try 320,000.

Look at the second sword down on this page:


http://www.angelsword.com/oriental_swords/as-oriental1.html



Angel Sword Folded Steel Katana (AS013-156) $10,000

Weight: 3 pounds, 12 ounces
POB: 6 inches
LOA: 36 5/8 inches
LOB: 27 inches
Steel: Folded-steel with 320,000 layers
Finish: High polish with hamon
Blade Width - Hilt: 1 inch, Tip: 3/16 inches
Blade Thickness: 1/4 inches
Handle: Stingray skin, silk wrap, with minuki and carnelian
Guard: Traditional tsuba
Scabbard: Tulipwood and ebony laminate


As you can see, a high quality sword can cost up to $10,000, maybe even more. If you want to buy a sword, I think you should buy one from an expert swordsmith, like the man who makes the swords on the website I linked in this post (www.angelsword.com).

when someone on this forum actually gets the money for a sword like that, then maybe you can talk but thats just a waste of time and money for something you really can't use

[Einzelgänger]

Can't use it?

I could, but thats a diffrent story.

100-300 is good quality, 320,000 is unherd of. There is not way that sword has that many layers, and is that thin. Main reason being, it would cost upwords of $50,000. A sword that thin with that many layers would take at least a good 6-8 months to make. Not to mention it would be nearly imposible to sharpen with any sharpener out there. A dimond dusted sharpener maby, but that would still take a few weeks of working on it for about 10 hours a day to complete.

Agin, $10,000 is too low a cost if it has that many layers and is that thin, the amount of time is abserd.

One last thing, it would weigh a good 6-7 lbs. Not 3 lbs, 12 ounces.

http://www.hayesknives.com/menu.html

His Tactical Katana is $7,000, thats about the price to look for in a good blade.

I'm sorry but 320,000 folds is just a mis-type or a scam. At least for that price.

[KaneInferno]

let me rephrase that aren't allowed to use it...atleast in any first world country anyway

[Einzelgänger]

Well, your aloud but you'll be arrested. Then agin depending on your perspective of law, and justice, you may not think your aloud. Then agin maby I just think way way too much into it.

[basey44]

hmm if you were really a collector wouldnt you want the best swords you could get your hands on, not some internet swords, like in the world of "kill bill" uma gets the best sword available the hanzo sword not off the internet but goes to japan, haha can u imaigne her ordering it on her computer and sitting at home waiting for it to arrive. im just saying wouldnt u want the best available and not something thats relatively crap

[?igma]

Originally posted by: Einzelgänger
Ya. But in truth any sword on that site is acctualy kind of cheap compared to swords that are hand forged. The max a sword on that site costs is around $2000 which is alot. But when you look at a well made Damascus Katana that was hand forged, they can be up to and over $7500. Heck I have seen one go for $10,000. Its all in how much you want the weapon and if you are a collecter or not.

Only reason the swords on that site arn't too much is that they are almost exclusively factory made. Though some are hand made they are made out of steel that is much easyer to work with and most of the time its under 100 folds in the steel. That makes a huge diffrence in the price.

Im rambling sorry.

If you want a real Katana, don't buy them online, go to Japan , find an old craftsman and buy a Katana of at least 20K ..

the only thing you have to be carefull about , is that you don't chop off your leg in your enthousiasm. It happened to a Japanese bussiness man, who just bought himself a precious katana and thought he could just wave it around. Swords of that quality are more dangerous then guns, you dont even have to force it into the meat, it'll just slide right through...

[basey44]

he should have stuck to golf, just slides through eh? thatd be so good if u actually had a use for one though

[?igma]

Originally posted by: basey_69
he should have stuck to golf, just slides through eh? thatd be so good if u actually had a use for one though

litterally as a knife through butter.

[basey44]

!? what kind of butter, cos some butter wen its been in the fridge is hard to cut, like u really gotta put all your weight on it

[Einzelgänger]

Listen, the best swords arn't made in Japan, I collect nice looking swords, not just the best of the best. Back to the Japan thing, the best swords are made in Spain belive it or not. The absolute best. And just because the Katana is traditionaly made in Japan does not mean a thing, they have lost alot of the samurai heratige.

Anyway, I also know that for high quality swords you don't buy them online, you go to a good smith, and ask him to make you one. There is a smith in my City, I have bought about 10 swords off him, they are razor sharp, could prolly take off a head in half a swing.

Swords are a fickle matter anyway, some people like heavy swords with not much of an edge, some like rasor sharp ones meant to be use on light to no armor. It also depends on what your wanting to use it for, suck as armor, you'll want a heavyer (not too heavy) sword that can bash and no cut, or a shorter faster plunging dagger that can move right through armor like its not there.

[?igma]

let me guess, you live in Spain ._.

They may have lost their heritage, but the sword is still 1) a symbolic meaning in everyday life 2) a symbolic weapon of past times 3) a collectible for the rich..


and do fucking believe me that those rich buy a japanese sword and NOT a spanish katana ._.

[Einzelgänger]

I don't live in Spain, I just know where the best swords are made. Considering I have swords from both Spain and Japan, the Spanish swords are better quality, and I know your thinking that I prolly just got low quality swords from Japan, they are high quality, and good swords, just not up to the best of the best.

Oh one thing, I said swords, I did mention that they Katana was traditionaly Japanese, but the best arn't made there, you should prolly look to China, or Korea for the best Katana. You also may want to remember that even at the hight of power in Japan, the best Katana were made in China. Being that the Chinese were the first to make the Katana.

[?igma]

Hm ok my bad, Spain is better for traditional Cruisader swords ofc =)

And yeah, ok, So basically I was just adding The Chinese to the Japanese community i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif , for the Koreans I disagree. They have never known a very high sophistocated society.

[Einzelgänger]

Spain is mainly known for their Rapiers.

And the Chinese and Japanese would take offence to being mentioned as one, they have a vary uneasy relationship, considering during WWII the Japs nearly took over all of China, and that they have vary diffrent cultures, and a history of war with one another.

Sorry for babbaling.

Koreans have never had a vary sophistocated society no, but they do have a bloody past, and they have been able to hold onto most of their traditions. And they did make a Katana, though it looked slightly diffrent from the traditional Chinese/Japanese Katana, the only realy diffrence is in the handle.

Oh and just in case you are wondering where I live, its Canada.

[?igma]

I knew about their history i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[shinichi69]

hmm... it makes me wonder whether the sword in "kill bill" is actually worthwhile afterall... she went through great pain to obtain that sword... and she claimed it to be the best...

[Einzelgänger]

It a movie. Simple enough, a movie.

[rupert003]

I just wanted to say that I make my own swords i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif.

Next up is something between Nightmare's soul calibur from SC2 and a Buster Blade.

I make them out of wood and metal plates, because I don't have a forge, but maybe one day.

The heaviest I made was around 15 lbs, and I got pritty good using it too. In fact I made it for practicing with my bro.

[TruthofMistake]

lol in response to the previous comments about enjoying sniping absatz my cousing seriously asked his parents for a scope and a shovel for christmas (he already has a really nice rifle forgot the model though) and they flipped out it was hilarious.... hes so friggin good with a rifle though he trains in an olympic facility in atlanta and when we go skeet shooting he destroys my entire family and my dad and uncle have been shooting for like 40 yrs. oh and as of monday sept. 13 it is now legal to buy assault weapons lol which are just military looking semi-auto rifles such as the ar-15 god i love that gun.... of course in all honesty if i had to pick between gun and sword id prolly go sword theres more history in one and itd be more fun to mess around with iv got guns already dont need another one

[Einzelgänger]

TruthofMistake, I'm lost there...

Some people are just good with rifles. O.o

I like the way you think though, take the sword over the gun. I have guns to, but I like swords more. And I belive had guns never been made, our world would be a much better place.

I like that quote of Albert Einstein. Bedeutend Figur.

[TruthofMistake]

lol no idea what that last thing is but yeah i agree with you advanced weapons make war a very dishonorable thing i meen BLAM BLAM BLAM and suddenly there are 3 less ppl but heh id have to say in a fight id chose a gun.... besides there would be know way to keep them from being made people like me will always look for a new way to , no matter how dishonorable it is, win wars and the gun is just one of those things

[Einzelgänger]

True. And that last thing was in German. It means, Great Man.

[TruthofMistake]

ahh the only foreign language im making an effort to learn is japanese as i intend to move there for a coupla years.... one of my friends takes german though he says its a cool langauge and culture

[rupert003]

Nah. Polish all the way.

[Einzelgänger]

I know German pritty well. I lived there my whole childhood. Well from birth to 7 years old. Thats the only time I had for childhood. *Hates moving*

I would like to learn Japanese to, only know a little, had to, lived there from 8 years old to 9 years old. Military life sucks so much.

[TruthofMistake]

yeah iv met people in the military through my dad and their kids supposedly hate it because they have to move like 5 or 6 times from age 1 to 18 then again some people enjoy moving around so whatever floats your boat i guess

[Assertn]

i was wondering why this zabuza sword thread is still alive.....its offtopic!

if you guys are done with the topic....then this thread should be locked

[TruthofMistake]

im done go ahead