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Kenshiro
Wed, 06-23-2004, 10:49 AM
Im pretty sure this has been posted before, but the 'Search' button didnt come up with anything. so....

What would your dream team be, if you cold choose from all of the genin (including the ones from other villages).

I reckon the best would be

Sasuke
Neji
Gaara

I realise that there would be way to much ego in this team for them to actually do anything apart from argue about who is the best, and all their troubles in life.

But, in terms of defence and attack, in both Ninjutsu and Taijutsu they would be pretty much untouchable.

Zansatsu
Wed, 06-23-2004, 11:55 AM
Shikamaru, Neji and Naruto.

Superman
Wed, 06-23-2004, 11:58 AM
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I reckon the best would be

Sasuke
Neji
Gaara


What about Naruto??? He beat Neji and Gaara in the Chuunin exam and has been training with Jiraiya (one of the three legendary ninjas) ever since then. You can't leave Naruto off this list.

My team would be Naruto, Neji, and Gaara.

Sasuke may end up beating Naruto in the upcomming manga, but if he does, it will be because Naruto doesn't use his full power against his friend. The times Naruto has been most impressive has been when he is defending Sasuke and Sakura or trying to get revenge for what he thought was Sasuke's death.

PSJ
Wed, 06-23-2004, 12:24 PM
gaara, naruto, shikamaru. is the best team. nothing to argue about.

Superman
Wed, 06-23-2004, 12:38 PM
Shikamaru is over-rated. He is the smartest, but he was still getting beat by that sound broad. He is so weak. I think Shikamaru has topped out at Chuunin. There is no way he will become a Jounin. His 3 techniques will not be enough against stronger opponents.

Your Gaara, Naruto, Shikamaru team would be strong, but I would way rather have Neji. His Byakugan is so powerful. Even Hinata used it super effectively in the forest part of the Chuunin selection exam.

kilzo
Wed, 06-23-2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by: Superman
Shikamaru is over-rated. He is the smartest, but he was still getting beat by that sound broad. He is so weak. I think Shikamaru has topped out at Chuunin. There is no way he will become a Jounin. His 3 techniques will not be enough against stronger opponents.

Reminder, lol practically everyone only has about 3 techniques. He's the smartest, which for a group is very essential.

PSJ
Wed, 06-23-2004, 01:35 PM
i dont want neji because all he got is the byakugan and he is a close range fighter with the gentle fist style. shikamaru is much better, he can a) plan out what to do b) he is a sneaky son of s bitch with his shadow jutsus. c) gaara can scout enough with his thrid eye jutsu. d) the close range fighting is taken care of by naruto. so the only thing neji would give is better vision to the team nothing else. e) shikamaru is a good leader. neji, gaara, naruto would have a huge problem with leader(assuming a jounin sensei isnt helping them out.).
so everything is taken care of in this team nothing is left out. in other words its balanced. if you exchancge shikamaru for neji the team would be very unbalanced.

and for shikamaru not reaching jounin i think thats very unlikely he got skill but he is very lazy. so if he does some more training which im positive he will since a number of females have outdone him many times now(something he doesnt like by the looks of him when they do).

Mut
Wed, 06-23-2004, 02:21 PM
itachi.

jing
Wed, 06-23-2004, 03:00 PM
Genin EH.
then Kabuto, Neji, Sasuke.

Masamune
Wed, 06-23-2004, 03:12 PM
hmm

kabuto
gaara
temari

Gods_Son
Wed, 06-23-2004, 03:13 PM
Kabuto, Shikamaru, Neiji

hopeknight
Wed, 06-23-2004, 03:29 PM
How about Sakura, Ino, and Random Sasuke Fangirl. They would be the 'SASUKE-KUN!!!! DREAM TEAM' or perhaps 'SASUKES ANGELS' or something else that is really corny. They would also fall into the category of most annoying team EVER.

On a serious note, how about Shikamaru, Shino, Temari. (I know there are stronger characters, but they aren't all that good at teamwork). Shikamaru for strategy and imobilizing the enemy. Shino can handle medium to close range opponents. Temari would be the powerhouse/long range fighter.

PSJ
Wed, 06-23-2004, 03:52 PM
i still like my team better. naruto for close range, shikamaru for strategy and imoblizing enemy(just as hope said) and gaara for mid and long range fighting. i believe this is the best team since naruto listens to shikamaru and gaara got some kind of respcet for naruto because he beat him and taught him that your friends are the most important thing.

Goingin
Wed, 06-23-2004, 04:22 PM
Naruto with 2 shadow clones

PSJ
Wed, 06-23-2004, 04:57 PM
lol great team, one hit on 2 of them and you got a one man team i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Knives122
Wed, 06-23-2004, 05:01 PM
Gaara,Naruto,and Lee
Naruto could use his shadow clones to distract them, and maybe do some fighting
Lee could use his speed and come up behind them and kick them, and while the enemy is flying Gaara could crush them with his sand
CASE CLOSED!!

PSJ
Wed, 06-23-2004, 05:03 PM
what if that plan backfires and the enemy moves around gaara, lee is getting beaten and naruto is the one flying? then you would need someone to think up a diffrent strategy therefore you change lee for shikamaru and you got the dream team.

Knives122
Wed, 06-23-2004, 05:12 PM
Lee is smart(from what hes done so far except for losing) his speed more than makes up for the kind of brains Shikamaru has

PSJ
Wed, 06-23-2004, 05:26 PM
nope nope, what if they face someone like kimimaro, if shikamarus brain does the work there they would be able to win but not without him(both lee and kimi would be healthy of course.)

Knives122
Wed, 06-23-2004, 06:07 PM
well then it would be good to have shikamaru on the team but if i had to choose someone to trade for lee it would be Shino

JusDaMan
Wed, 06-23-2004, 07:56 PM
SHikamaru IS NOT GENIN! hes a chuunin.... lol

Himura_san
Wed, 06-23-2004, 08:43 PM
I was gonna say that, He is a chunin damn you!!!

I would have to go with Rock Lee, Neji, and Temari.

_gaara_
Wed, 06-23-2004, 08:50 PM
Gaara, and 2 clones of gaara (not kage bunshin, silly; dolly the sheep style clones.).

Noonan
Thu, 06-24-2004, 03:51 AM
Hmmm

Gaara - While he's not truely invincible, he does have a rediculous amount of offence/defence available.

Shikamaru - For tactics/Battle Planning.

Naruto - Offence/Distraction techniques.

Temari - Defence / Long range support.

And yes - thats 4, but then the adult teams are supposed to be 4 Nins now, despite the fact that most of the teams you see are just 3, since the 4th is supposed to be a medical nin, either Temari or or Shika will need to carry a box of band-aids for this bunch. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Noonan.

Kenshiro
Thu, 06-24-2004, 05:23 AM
I still think the best team is

Neji
Gaara
Sasuke


I didnt choose Naruto in my team because even though he has beaten both Gaara and Neji, he would be useless in a team.

He only ever gets serious and any good once he has been beaten up for hours and all his friends are nearly dead.

Naruto only beat Haku, when Sasuke was nearly dead. He only beat Gaara when Sakura was being tortured.

The only reason he beat Neji is because Neji got distracted and started talking crap about his boring life.

There would be no point in having him in the team as he would only be useful when everyone else was dead.

Shikamaru (even though he is a chunin, but nevermind) would maybe be good but even though he is really clever he is really crap at fighting. Whereas both Sasuke and Neji are really good at fighting and not totally stupid. (they were both no. 1 Rookie in their respective years)

I think the best strategy would be to have Neji fighting up close hand to hand, and have Gaara at the back proving defense for the whole team with his sand. Sasuke would be in the middle either doing long range Ninjutsu (his fire stuff, or his shuriken stuff) or helping out close up with his Taijutsu, or Chidori.

Stoopider
Thu, 06-24-2004, 05:50 AM
Shino, Chouji, Neji.

Just some random jumble up nobody thought of.

Shino - Bugs, traps, Decent fighter. Probably dangerous fighter if he can draw versus Kankuro. And we seen him fight very few people and I wouldn't underestimate him. SMART too.

Chouji - Massive Destruction with his pills. Probably can take on Gamabunta. Heheh. Wishful hope.

Neji - Ultimate close hand combat. Byakugan schout.

Ryllharu
Thu, 06-24-2004, 08:25 AM
Kankuro, Temari and Gaara

That's why they are the only sand ninja's we ever see that don't look like every other sand ninja that Konoha fought, because they are the only real ninjas sand has. Shikamaru has to be the one leading them because genin need a chuunin leading them.

OR

Kankuro, Shino, and Gaara

-Kankuro has gotten REALLY strong with that new puppet, he killed Sakon (or was it the other twin?) with barely any effort.
-Shino could lead any enemies into Kankuro with very little effort and he can search out the area or watch over the enemy if he land a bug on them.
-Gaara defends all of them.
-Gaara could be replaced by Temari for long range combat, because she can knock out a lot of weapons out of the air as well

It wouldn't be about who is strongest, its about which team compliments each other best.

PSJ
Thu, 06-24-2004, 08:52 AM
i still think shikamaru, naruto, gaara is the best team. i realize that shikamaru is a chuunin but someone needs to lead the group.

RasenDori
Thu, 06-24-2004, 09:14 AM
y are people choosing Naruto and Sasuke? they are not team players...the reason sakura does so little is because these two hog the spotlight all the time...that and she sucks
Neji
Temari
Shino
with Shikamaru as team leader

everyone in the team is crazy smart...to the point that im not even sure of shikamaru is needed...hes just insurance

neji has proven himself a team leder by gaining recognition from shikamaru as second in command of his team. he is a great scout which will be valuable to his long range partner temari. neji focuses as the taijustu expert and if anyone manages to get close to this team neji will completely shut them off

temari has all the benifits of gaara without his glaring weakness of getting his ass handed to him by speedy taijutsu. temari can freeze up in total desperate situations (and i assume that it has to be really extreme as we saw when gaara transformed) the calmness of both shino and neji can make up for this. she also has a summon that could prove useful from time to time

shino is the ultimate team player. he is quiet and takes orders without a problem (he even lets kiba of all people order him) he is also one of the most versitile genins in the leaf...not excelling too much in one area. hes a good mid-to-close range fighter and has a great amount of tricks to keep enimies on their toes

PSJ
Thu, 06-24-2004, 10:21 AM
by putting shikamaru in the same team as naruto naruto becomes a team player since he got some kind of respect for shikamaru. he listens to him. and gaara will listen to the guy if naruto does. so its a perfect team balanced with brains and muscles. gaara, naruto being the muscles and shikamaru the brain.

hornetmike
Thu, 06-24-2004, 12:02 PM
I say the best team would be

Naruto
Temari
Neji
and KaKashi as leader

KaKashi easily replaces shiKamaru in tactics and power. and he can also copy all the enimies jutsus(almost). and tracK people and summon.
Naruto is a mid- to long range fighter. he's also there to provide surprises and distractions. He can also summon and do rasengan. He can also tracK his teamates with a tracKing frog liKe jiraiya does
Temari is the long range fighter and also provides and incredible defense. She also can summon
Neji is the close range fighter that can shut down anyone. He is also the scout for he team.


The flaw of the gaara, naruto and shiKamaru plan is that if the get distracted and split up. then they're screwed. If shiKamaru get seperated from the team he might die. then if gaara and naruto had to do things on their own they might also be Killed. although i'll give PSJ(pervert senin jiraiya) credit, gaara would be a lot harder. but not everything calls for or depend on strength.

If my team seperates i 'm sure neji, KaKashi could find everyone. The weaKest person on the team intelligence wise would be naruto. I'm certain that he would be a team player as long as you respect him.
And there you go the perfect team. unless you want to add the lengendary sannins or Kabuto and itachi. then my plan all falls apart.

PSJ
Thu, 06-24-2004, 12:11 PM
shikamaru isnt all that weak and he seems to be a master at escaping. gaara would be smart enough to not panic and try to find the others. and as you say naruto would be able to use a tracking frog to find his teammates. gaara also got his third eye jutsu so he can scout fairly good. and the team were suppposed to be 3 man teams without a jounin sensei, thats how i understood it, so if you take away kakashi from your team their strength falls apart somewhat.since naruto most likely wouldnt listen to either neji or temari.

RasenDori
Thu, 06-24-2004, 12:25 PM
i think that shikamaru although insanely smart lacks well roundedness...which is why he isnt in my 3 man team but is my leader of choice. gaara may be powerful but i doubt that he has the mind power to make it through extreamly difficult situations. i picked neji temari and shino because (aside from the reason i listed earlier) they have proven themselves as great ninjas in both combat and tactics.
but i dont want it to sound as if im imposing what i see as the best team...this thread shouldnt become a debate...

Superman
Thu, 06-24-2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by: RasenDori
gaara may be powerful but i doubt that he has the mind power to make it through extreamly difficult situations.

That is what makes Gaara, and Naruto, so powerful. If they loose control, they win. The inner beasts in both of them will come out and make them pretty much unstopable.

Mut
Thu, 06-24-2004, 02:17 PM
itachi as a genin, kakashi as a genin, the 4th as a genin.

PSJ
Thu, 06-24-2004, 03:33 PM
lol you got s trong team there, but i in that team you should change kakashi for one of the sannin.

Knives122
Fri, 06-25-2004, 03:08 AM
man thats cheap, then Im changing my team to the Ninetails, and two of the other how many there ever are youmas, thats my ultimate team

Mut
Fri, 06-25-2004, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by: Knives122
man thats cheap, then Im changing my team to the Ninetails, and two of the other how many there ever are youmas, thats my ultimate team

you're cheating, they aren't human.

hopeknight
Fri, 06-25-2004, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by: Knives122
man thats cheap, then Im changing my team to the Ninetails, and two of the other how many there ever are youmas, thats my ultimate team

Well, if you are going to bring in youmas....

How about Pakkun, Gamakichi and the Pig(whatever its name is)

As we can clearly see, this thread is drifting off track.

Naruto_-_Kun
Fri, 06-25-2004, 06:51 AM
But its heaps funny lol, have animal ninja teams lol!!

meroko01
Fri, 06-25-2004, 05:23 PM
What would your dream team be, if you cold choose from all of the genin (including the ones from other villages).

I reckon the best would be

Sasuke
Neji
Gaara



Naruto
Gaara
Shino

if shikamaru wasn't a chuunin he would take shino's place xD



Shikamaru is over-rated. He is the smartest, but he was still getting beat by that sound broad. He is so weak. I think Shikamaru has topped out at Chuunin. There is no way he will become a Jounin. His 3 techniques will not be enough against stronger opponents.

Your Gaara, Naruto, Shikamaru team would be strong, but I would way rather have Neji. His Byakugan is so powerful. Even Hinata used it super effectively in the forest part of the Chuunin selection exam.

to whoever wrote this.. shikamaru is not over rated .. he is actually underrated by naruto fans .. only those who see shika's true strength thinks of him as a very powerful ninja ... his jutsus and strategies can surpass Nejis byakugan anytime .. also, in the shikamaru/temari fight, shika predicted temari's moves and i doubt neji can do that with his byakugan ...

Nine Tailed Demon
Fri, 06-25-2004, 07:11 PM
Gaara
Naruto
Sasuke

samsonlonghair
Fri, 06-25-2004, 08:38 PM
The best team would be Shikamaru, Naruto, and Lee. I don't have any tactical reason for this; I just think they'd have some missions that are funny as hell.

jing
Fri, 06-25-2004, 09:11 PM
Every dream gennin team in naruto currently needs a Kabuto.

Ryno2410
Sat, 06-26-2004, 12:25 AM
Ino
Shikamaru
Chouji


I bet if they'd have some episodes beside 33 where all three were working together, this team would be more liked. Anyway, I just like this team because in the Naruto RPG for GBA, I like using Ino to mindcontrol one person, Shikamaru to shadow bind another person, and then have Ino's mind controlled person, Shikmaru's person if he's clever, and Chouji going at somebody 3 on 1

Death BOO Z
Sat, 06-26-2004, 05:37 AM
Shikamaru is totally overated nowdays... but i really can'y blame you guys, the brainygan skills he showed in the last fight were truely outstanding...

however, he himself addmitted that he can't beat Naruto (after the fight with Neji, and Naruto has gotten much stronger since), and his time was going to lose to the sound trio if Neji wouldn't have interfered...

Shikamaru is smart, but he's not fitting to a 'powerhouse' team, he goes well with Ino and Chouji becuase they have one heavy striker and two people to capture the other enemies...

PSJ
Sat, 06-26-2004, 07:32 AM
the best team is still naruto, gaara, shikamaru.

Hakeem_21
Sat, 06-26-2004, 07:35 AM
My team:

Naruto for all his skill and he is good at coming up with good moves when its most needed.

Neji,he got a lot of good moves and his defence is extremly good,he is smart too he showed it when the fat sound ninja had all of the leaf genin locked in.

Lee,for his speed and he is a master of taijustu.

This team cant be beaten cause Neji can come up with strategis,Naruto comes up with brute force and Lee with the speed.

If they are in trouble Naruto has kyubi as backup and Lee can use gate 5 or something.

I want to see Lee using gate 5 or 6 without snaping a muscle that would be cool,he would chrush the person he is fighting.

EDIT: this thread is fun,who ever made it cheers to you!

Death BOO Z
Sat, 06-26-2004, 08:15 AM
Kabuto, Gaara, Naruto...

the only Genin team which could possibly take on any of the Jounins, including Itachi and the legedary three...

seriously, Kabuto tied with Tsunde alone, which means that at worse, he's a bit weaker than Jiraya and Orochimaru, add to that two demons who are able to call\transform into giant monsters, and you get quite the kill-team...

besides, Kabuto has his medical jutsu's to weaken his enemies, Gaara has layers of absaloute defences, and Naruto will just get up everytime you hit him, which means they are really hard to kill as well as they are super strong...

for tactical descions they have Kabuto, who as a spy, probably knows a shit or two about life, and even though Gaara and Naruto usualy fight alone, it seems that Naruto is capable of following orders and since Gaara has done A-ranked missions, i think he also know when to listen to others...


No matter who's up against those three, the outcome is usually death to thier enemies, wheather it's a genin team, a jounin or even one of the youmas, this team wins.


if a forth person is needed, then i'd put in Neji or Temari, Neji has the close range field covered while Temari has the long range attacks, it doesn't really matter, since if the three above couldn't beat the enemy, it's not likely neither Neji nor Temari could help...

Hakeem_21
Sat, 06-26-2004, 08:27 AM
I think you think a litte to high about Kabuto,just becasue he tied with Tsunade who didnt use 20% of her skill cause of the blood you cant say that he a litte weaker than the sannins! I think Kabuto is at best a litte above Kakashi maybe even not that.

PSJ
Sat, 06-26-2004, 05:27 PM
lol you think much to high of both naruto and kabuto. all of the sannin were disabled during that fight, tsunade still had her phobia, jiraiya was drugged nad orochimaru didnt have any arms. kabuto is over estimated since naruto almost won. and kabuto shouldnt really be counted as a genin he is the freakin right hand man of orochimaru.

the best team is still naruto, shikamaru and gaara.

Death BOO Z
Sat, 06-26-2004, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
lol you think much to high of both naruto and kabuto. all of the sannin were disabled during that fight, tsunade still had her phobia, jiraiya was drugged nad orochimaru didnt have any arms. kabuto is over estimated since naruto almost won. and kabuto shouldnt really be counted as a genin he is the freakin right hand man of orochimaru.

the best team is still naruto, shikamaru and gaara.

overating him? i think not...

let's see, he whacked 8 ANBU's down, who Kakashi stated in Sasuke's room to guard him from Orochimaru.
he fought Tsunde and tied with her even before using her blood phobia, and then he went on to fight Shinzune and to survive a Rasengan.

oh, and when he went up against Tsunde, he avoided all attacks be4 using the chackra scupler to weaken her muscles, otherwise he'd be dead...

and here are some quates about him..
"you're most likely not able to kill me" Orochimaru, while he had his arms working.
"it'd be dangerous, even for me, to go against two of the legendary three" Kabuto thinking while facing tsunde.

if you'd give Kabuto a rematch against any of the enemies he fought against, he'd probably win this time, unless you believe Naruto will be able to hold him down with clones long enough to use the rasengan (and please remember that Kabuto offed 4 clones in a second, while he was under the effect of Tsunde's attack), or that Kabuto would drop his guard against Tsunde again...

Shikamaru, on the other side, lost to the sound nins in masks, and no one who wears a mask and has a face which is identical to others can be strong, and that's a fact... Shikamaru can't fight in a true fight, and his tactic skills won't help neither Gaara nor Naruto in a serious fight, since those two will just go all out and smash thier enemies...

jing
Sat, 06-26-2004, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
lol you think much to high of both naruto and kabuto. all of the sannin were disabled during that fight, tsunade still had her phobia, jiraiya was drugged nad orochimaru didnt have any arms. kabuto is over estimated since naruto almost won. and kabuto shouldnt really be counted as a genin he is the freakin right hand man of orochimaru.

the best team is still naruto, shikamaru and gaara.

well its gennin, and kabuto is a gennin.

PSJ
Sat, 06-26-2004, 07:13 PM
still overestimating kabuto. he is on the same level as kakashi. kakashi got whacked by itachi in 2 seconds and if kakashi is strong enough to go up against one of the sannin itachi would win easily which is not the case, he is very careful around them. kakashi might even be stronger than kabuto remember orochimaru saying "kabuto is about as strong as kakashi" oh and that ANBU arguement isnt that good ANBU is what you become when you first become jounin and the ANBU also got masks and are no name characters.

Death BOO Z
Sat, 06-26-2004, 07:38 PM
Kakashi couldn't move while facing one of the sannin (orochimaru), Kabuto went up against two of them (he only fought tsunde, but still, he made Jiraya into his personal enemy) and on the overalll count, he would've won (he beat Shinzune in three moves, he bitchslaped Tsunde into plup and he took the rasengan head on, and still had the power to be suprised).

and even though I admit that the ANBU members will never beat anyone, my argument still has a point; those 8 were stationed at Sasuke's room to protect him against Orochimaru, or at least to make sure that an alarm is raised when orochimaru gets there, Kabuto killed them all without even trying...

oh, and Orochimaru said "you most likely can't kill me, you're strong, but only about Kakashi's level", which means that if anything, Kabuto is between Kakashi and Orochimaru, according to someone who knows him good, and not from Jiraya's first imprssion.. and besides, Kabuto also scares (sort of, not exactly scares, but close enough) orochimaru, have you seen Kakashi treating Jiraya like that? Kabuto is being cynical to the stumck with Orochimaru, and even orochimaru can't read him..


Naruto, Gaara and Kabuto, the only genin team who can beat the sannin, and maybe itachi...

Suzu
Sat, 06-26-2004, 08:19 PM
Remember Kabuto took the soldier pill which doubles his chakra when he was fighting Tsunade who was out of commission becdause of her phobia. If any of the Sannin fought him at full strength he would lose in a heartbeat and if they took a cheap soldier pill it wouldn't even be a fight. He's on equal level with kakashi if he was significantly stonger he logically would have killed instead of letting thwart Orochimaru's plans. He does have talent though and is one of my fave characters but he can't touch the healthy Sannin.

Knives122
Sat, 06-26-2004, 08:50 PM
dont forget about that red eye thing he has we still dont know what that is(not even in the manga) so that thing could significantly increase his power to who knows what bounds, and since hes bad that a very BAD thing

Mut
Sat, 06-26-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by: Knives122
dont forget about that red eye thing he has we still dont know what that is(not even in the manga) so that thing could significantly increase his power to who knows what bounds, and since hes bad that a very BAD thing

the red eye thing does not mean anything.

queenlatifah
Sat, 06-26-2004, 09:14 PM
Haku - set a nice trap
Gaara - overflood whoever's inside Haku's mirror trap with sand
Kimi - shoot bones and ripping spines off from the ground

The You-Cannot-Escape Team

kaigan
Sun, 06-27-2004, 01:28 AM
jesus, zeus and .........

naw just those 2, i'll give you guys 1 man extra.

viciousHyuuga
Sun, 06-27-2004, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by: kaigan
jesus, zeus and .........

naw just those 2, i'll give you guys 1 man extra.

HAHA
ok

Kabuto .. Garra.. an Kim + Budda

Kabuto - med\team leader
Garra - Defence
Kim then when he dies i would recruit Neji - Attack

naruto wouldnt proberly join my team.. garra would own sasuke now .. kabuto is just a sick kunt, kim\neji great fighters...

as for naruto beating Neji only cause he underestimated him

Buddah just owns your gods HAHA

Hakeem_21
Sun, 06-27-2004, 04:51 AM
Dude Naruto would beat Neji anytime.....

PSJ
Sun, 06-27-2004, 06:53 AM
hmmm Thor, Zeus, Hades. 2 gods of thunder, one of them is the strongest god in his place and a death god i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif these guys arent even ninjas.

RasenDori
Sun, 06-27-2004, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by: Suzu
Remember Kabuto took the soldier pill which doubles his chakra when he was fighting Tsunade who was out of commission becdause of her phobia. If any of the Sannin fought him at full strength he would lose in a heartbeat and if they took a cheap soldier pill it wouldn't even be a fight. He's on equal level with kakashi if he was significantly stonger he logically would have killed instead of letting thwart Orochimaru's plans. He does have talent though and is one of my fave characters but he can't touch the healthy Sannin.

the use of soilder pills dont make you a better or worse ninja. its just a tool. what you saying is like saying that uses a kunai makes you weaker

although kabuto isnt on the same level as the sannin anyways



Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
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Shikamaru, on the other side, lost to the sound nins in masks, and no one who wears a mask and has a face which is identical to others can be strong, and that's a fact... Shikamaru can't fight in a true fight, and his tactic skills won't help neither Gaara nor Naruto in a serious fight, since those two will just go all out and smash thier enemies...

it was said in shikamarus fight with temari that his victory would have been certain if he was leading a team...and that is absolute, shikmaru isnt so great on his own, but in a team is where he pulls his weight the most

kaigan
Sun, 06-27-2004, 02:58 PM
ninja gods? lol

Mut
Sun, 06-27-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by: RasenDori


Originally posted by: Suzu
Remember Kabuto took the soldier pill which doubles his chakra when he was fighting Tsunade who was out of commission becdause of her phobia. If any of the Sannin fought him at full strength he would lose in a heartbeat and if they took a cheap soldier pill it wouldn't even be a fight. He's on equal level with kakashi if he was significantly stonger he logically would have killed instead of letting thwart Orochimaru's plans. He does have talent though and is one of my fave characters but he can't touch the healthy Sannin.

the use of soilder pills dont make you a better or worse ninja. its just a tool. what you saying is like saying that uses a kunai makes you weaker

you're comparing a soldier pill with a kunai. soldier pills do way more than what a kunai can.

Assertn
Sun, 06-27-2004, 05:03 PM
man, soldier pills are broke.....there needs to be some sort of downside to them.....or else ninjas would be taking that stuff like crack

Masamune
Sun, 06-27-2004, 05:13 PM
maybe there hard to get?

edit: and with that im genin w00t

PSJ
Mon, 06-28-2004, 05:55 AM
could be a possibility but its most likely just the same why everybody doesnt do the same easy and powerful jutsus. because it would be broing if every chracter did the same thing and out of it got doubled powers for a while.

queenlatifah
Mon, 06-28-2004, 06:35 AM
strider, sentinel, cable

CapsuleCorpJX
Tue, 07-06-2004, 06:39 PM
Shikamaru, Naruto, Gaara.
Assuming Gaara will obey orders.

Gaara - Great offense, best defense.
Naruto - Great offense/decoy, best summoner.
Shikamaru - Great disabler, best tactician.

PSJ
Wed, 07-07-2004, 05:18 PM
Dream Team: Shikamaru, Naruto, Gaara. i wont even state why.

Masakari
Wed, 07-07-2004, 11:46 PM
Shikamaru Gaara and anyone else. Though I'd say Haku, someone mentioned him earlier and I wasn't considering him because he's dead, but very few people would be able to beat these three.
Haku can use his frozen mirror things (I forgot the name, it's been a while) and while distracting whoever's inside, Shikamaru uses shadowbind, he can move closer because the people inside the mirrors don't have to move very far, plus the mirrors have to cast a shadow giving him more range anyway. People inside can't move, Gaara sends his sand in and just crushes the person inside. I doubt anyone would be able to stop it other than summoning a giant something, at which point the peson would be forced out, possibly into a mirror which would probably cause death.

Are we talking a team composed of the strongest fighters, or a team who would be able to accomplish missions quickly and efficiently, which is what ninjas are meant to do (though we sometimes forget that because our main character is someone like Naruto).

snowball
Thu, 07-08-2004, 12:48 AM
god it has to have been 5 or 6 mins since i saw one of these threads...

Ryllharu
Thu, 07-08-2004, 07:41 AM
Teamwork is more important than strength, so you have to think of people who could work well together, or at least not chafe under the leadership of one of the others.

And Shikamaru is STILL not a genin, or have we given up on the whole 'genin only' thing?

Temari, Kankuro and Gaara would be the strongest team, simply because they work together now that Gaara is not completely insane anymore and they are the only 3 genin in all of Sand, so I assume sand doesn't even need any more genin.

Temari and Gaara can handle defenses as well as long-range and close combat respectively. Kankuro is ideal for midrange combat and all the tricks inside Karasu and the new one make him very adaptable. It doesn't matter who is the leader, though Temari will probably become leader because she is the oldest and seems to be commanding them anyway.

PSJ
Thu, 07-08-2004, 03:32 PM
whoever said that they are the only genin in sand village? they were the only genin that qualified for the chuunin exam that doesnt mean they were the only genin in sand village. you could do it like this. team leader: shikamaru 3 Genin: Naruto, Gaara, Neji. would probably be close to the strongest if you dont include kabuto and haku.

kakashi_gurl
Thu, 07-08-2004, 05:59 PM
Sasuke, naruto, Neji

Why?

Sasuke - Sharingan
Neji - Byakugan
Naruto - Kyuubi

jing
Thu, 07-08-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
whoever said that they are the only genin in sand village? they were the only genin that qualified for the chuunin exam that doesnt mean they were the only genin in sand village. you could do it like this. team leader: shikamaru 3 Genin: Naruto, Gaara, Neji. would probably be close to the strongest if you dont include kabuto and haku.

Agreed, Neji for taijutsu (and obviously alot of other great shit he can pull from his sleeves), gaara for ninjutsu(defensive AND offensive),and Naruto is fux around no jutsu with demon fox powers.

PSJ
Thu, 07-08-2004, 07:08 PM
great have the biggest arrogant asshole in the world in the team... let neji and naruto sit back and watch when he dies.... the first thing he would do if he got paired with 2 other guys he would just say well im going for itachi i dont care what you 2 do. he doesnt listen to anyone which makes him the worst team player ever and not suitable for team.

jing
Thu, 07-08-2004, 07:17 PM
and also those 3 will fight for leadership. so NO GOOD! By the way shikamaru would be really insane if he could increase the speed of his shadows...

Death BOO Z
Thu, 07-08-2004, 07:54 PM
the sand trio wasn't the only sand genin team, it was just the primary one...
the rest failed either in the first stage (i think one of the quitting guys was a sand) or in the seconed, it would seem weired for a villiage from such a big country to send only one team....

Ryllharu
Fri, 07-09-2004, 07:13 AM
Ok, so maybe that reasoning was bad, but I still think that the way those three work together makes them stronger than certain other members that could be included in a power team.

I really don't think Neji is all that good. It seems like he has already learned all the Hyuuga techniques while the others are starting to move past him.

Kankuro is really underestimated. Even though Kiba (the weakest genin on the 'chase sasuke team') was fighting the one of the weaker four, Kankuro killed Sakon in like 2 minutes. He is also a very versitile character (unless his chakra strings get chewed off like when he fought Shino).

Coolman
Fri, 07-09-2004, 12:53 PM
Gaara - Very strong overall, can defend and attack one person, or multiple targets from a long distance, can go into demon mode if needed, or use the sand to defend allies

Neji - Best scouting, hand to hand combat skills makes up for Gaara's, and can nullify most attacks

Kabuto - He's a gennin. He can easily beat any other Gennin, and can heal any wounds

AND if Kabuto isn't allowed

Naruto - Piss him off and its over. Kyuubi Chakra, summoning, shadow rep, and rasengan

Eurasian
Fri, 07-09-2004, 01:28 PM
Naruto
Gaara
Neji or Rock Lee

I want to see their adventure!!! They should make another show focusing only on them!

jing
Fri, 07-09-2004, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by: Ryllharu
Ok, so maybe that reasoning was bad, but I still think that the way those three work together makes them stronger than certain other members that could be included in a power team.

I really don't think Neji is all that good. It seems like he has already learned all the Hyuuga techniques while the others are starting to move past him.

Kankuro is really underestimated. Even though Kiba (the weakest genin on the 'chase sasuke team') was fighting the one of the weaker four, Kankuro killed Sakon in like 2 minutes. He is also a very versitile character (unless his chakra strings get chewed off like when he fought Shino).

Nah i think Neji could come up with new moves you know, since like he learned the 64 hands, and kaiten on his own, it proves that he has the ability to become even greater. besides, he is still young.

EpoC
Sun, 07-11-2004, 09:26 AM
Hokages. 1st and the 2nd, the 3rd in his prime, the 4th and the 5th. that would make a good team wouldn't it?
I didn't see anyone mention Genins only here.

Coolman
Sun, 07-11-2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by: KenshiroWhat would your dream team be, if you cold choose from all of the genin (including the ones from other villages).

First post.

BTW, I think Neji does have alot of potential, if he doesn't die that is. If someone can learn Kaiten and 64 strikes on his own, and used them both perfectly are such a young age.

Besides, we are talking Genin, and he is one of the most powerful at the moment.

jing
Sun, 07-11-2004, 03:24 PM
Yeah i agree, Neji could easily take down thousand of clones with Kaiten.
His 64 hands of hakke is too good for anyone to handle.

I'm thinkin that shikamaru may be the only one that can beat him, you know, his shadows give him a long range advantange. But we know Neji has got some brains too. so i'd like to see them fight one day. by the way, Giant sized chouji can finish him off by sitting on him haha..

Knives122
Sun, 07-11-2004, 03:38 PM
Neji is just insane(the good insane), the perfect team has to be IMO now, is Shikamaru, Neji, and Naruto, Shikamarus brains, Nejis reflexes, and Narutos ingeniousnes and determination, good combination

Coolman
Sun, 07-11-2004, 03:44 PM
Kabuto guys! Hes a Gennin. And Shika isn't!

Naruto is ok. But in my team, unless I couldn't have Kabuto, i'd keep him out. Powerful, but hes loud, stupid at times, clumsy, and really needs to be pissed off before he unleashes his power.

UnC
Thu, 07-15-2004, 02:19 PM
Hmmm.
Gaara, Kimmaro, Neiji.

It's all about the defenses these bad boys have, Gaara has the distance fighters taken care of while Kimi and Neiji are just killer upclose. Now if I can't have Kimi, I'd go with Naruto.

PSJ
Thu, 07-15-2004, 04:54 PM
what if neji faces someone like rock lee who are both much faster and stronger? nejis gentle fist cnat do anything against someone like lee the only thing he would be able to do is to use kaiten all the time but with that he would tire out very quickly so he isnt all that much. if he doesnt show new abilites soon he will become weak.

UnC
Thu, 07-15-2004, 07:42 PM
What about rock lee? as you may have noticed from the Hinata fight Neiji doesn't need to Kaiten to stop an attack from hitting him. A simple constant field will suffice. Considering what happens later in the manga I would suffice that Neiji can can maintain such a field longer than Rock Lee can maintain his speed.

Neiji wasn't impressed with Lee until he opened his gates either. So I don't see Rock Lee beating Neiji without causing a lot of harm to himself. What's the use of a team member who needs to tear himself up to inflict damage. With Neijis nice eyes, he may be able to see Lee's every move and since he's better at Taijutsu than Lee normally he may be able to exploit a whole in Lee's offense or catch him with a Kaiten.

Throw in a follow up 64 hands of Hake and I think Neiji won't have as big of a problem with Lee as you think. But eh who knows. Only Kishomoto does. Just because Gai says "This was Lee's trump card to beating Neiji" doesn't mean that Lee automatically wins. Neiji is pretty fast himself which he shows while fighting Kyuubi powered Naruto. Not to mention he's a genius, I'm sure he'd get creative if he had to fight Lee.

Sides Lee always gets his butt kicked anyway i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

Ryllharu
Fri, 07-16-2004, 12:09 PM
I can't believe you're this wrong. Gai said the secret to beating Neji was in the "High-speed combo."

You may have missed one of the many Sharigan vs. Byakugan(sp) forums, so I'll clear things up.

-Byakugan isn't better than the Sharingan in tracking opponents. Your eyes don't move faster, they can just see more at one time (like a turkey, or many other birds).

-Lee is also the taijutsu master, no one can beat him only using taijutsu, he's only lost to people with bloodline limits or who use crazy demonic abilities.

-If Lee can only use taijutsu, what does it matter if 64 hands hits him? Lee's abiltites use little chakra (except for his super moves). All he won't be able to do is open gates. Lee is also so fast that 64 hands couldn't even hit in the first place.

Lee would probably destroy Neji, especially if he got drunk.

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back to topic

The sand gennin seem to be the strongest gennin introduced into the series. I am disregarding Kabuto because I think in one of the scanlations it said he wasn't human, and after seeing him for a while in various battles, I'm starting to believe that.

Naruto and Kankuro would be pretty good and confusing opponents with a lot of henge's and trickery. I don't really care who else is on the team, most of the other suggestions are good. Shikamaru's not a gennin so, he can be their chuunin.

PSJ
Fri, 07-16-2004, 12:14 PM
what ryllharu said. neji is nothing against an opponent like that.

UnC
Fri, 07-16-2004, 04:08 PM
SPOILERS INSIDE

If Lee can't hit Neiji, then Lee has no chance. Neiji can errect a force field around his WHOLE body and keep it there without spinning at all. If he manages to catch Lee one time with a Kaiten Lee will be chucked, as far as the 64 Hands of Hakke go. We really don't know why opponents stand there in the first place, are they frozen once in the divination? So far noone has even attempted to dodge it. And didn't you all notice when the 64 Hands of Hake knocked that dood through a huge assed tree? You have no idea how damaging the 64 hands are because it only hit Naruto, who insta heals basically. It hit a Naruto that Neiji was not trying to KILL at the time, if he was he wouldn't have told him a story after the 64 hands lol. If you read the manga and since this section is called Manga you will know that Neiji simply touched a string and killed one of the badguys lol. Hakke or not Lee is in deep shit if he's caught. Lee isn't smart enough to beat Neiji without Gates, he'd run into the field and eventually get Kaitened. If you don't know what field I'm talking about read the Manga.

Also Lee says himself he can't keep that speed up for long. In Taijutsu alone without the super speed Lee NEVER beat Neiji. He'd need to use gates to stand a chance, even then he couldn't get through Neijis chakra field and as we know if we read the Manga, Neiji keeps that damn field up through that entire friggin fight.

Lee loses, and Neiji didn't act surprised at Lees speed until AFTER Lee opened Gates. Which leaves me to assume that Neiji could see Lee with weights off. Also Neiji can feel Chakra approaching him, he doesn't have to see it. READ THE MANGA if you did you'd know that Neiji managed to evade multiple extremely fast Level 2 spider arrows just by sensing them.

You underestimate Byakuugan because you're busy jerking off to Sharringan. I'm talking about my observations about Byakuugan alone I could care less about Sharringan. Neijis not even my favorite character. All I know is that Lee doesn't instant-win vs Neiji at all.

You just don't get it, pull Sasuke/Itachi out of your ass and evaluate Byakuugans accomplishments without comparing it to Sharingan from sources in the Manga. Remember just because Gai says it's the key to beating Neiji, doesn't mean that Lee is good enough to actually beat Neiji. Having a knife may be the key to me beating Mike Tyson, but shiet, if Mike Tyson punches me I'm probably as good as dead. I better bring a friggin gun, Lee's gun is his speed + power. But sorry Neiji brings a bullet proof vest and a goddamn grenade.

Back to the subject:

I think Kimmaro, Gaara, Naruto would hands down beat everyone else. Only exception I think would be Sasuke could be replace Naruto especially at Level 2. Neiji however is the best scout simply because of his 360 vision and far sight so the team wouldn't be taken by surprised but honestly.

koreanriceboi
Sat, 07-17-2004, 02:43 AM
the dream team has to be naruto, sasuke, and sakura

Terracosmo
Sat, 07-17-2004, 06:24 AM
Neji, Neji & Neji

Lithonite
Sat, 07-17-2004, 07:52 PM
This really isnt a question- the answer exhists in the naruto series. the world strongest team of 3 nin would be "the 3 nin"

Orochimaru
Jiraiya
Tsunade

Terracosmo
Sat, 07-17-2004, 08:55 PM
BTW if Neji doesn't have a chance against "someone like Lee", then how come Lee gets owned by Neji's left thumb every time he tries?

FACE IT

NEJI IS THE BEST

And he would fucking own Naruto too if he didn't have that fox bitch inside.

NEJI IS THE BEST DAMNIT

Uchiha Shisui
Mon, 07-19-2004, 04:43 PM
Such anger and fanboyism on this board!! Advantages and disadvantages for the last said characters.

Pure power squad.

Naruto. His full power hasnt even been breached upon, and his creativity with the limited techniques he knows his boundless. Hes displayed abilities that only Jounin or higher have achieved( rasengan and kage bushin no jutsu) and his ability to think ahead might only be supassed by Shikamaru, and other chuunins and Jounins.

Gaara. See him in his fight with Kimimaru was perhaps the most increadible display of power seen in the manga. His Ryuusa Bakuryu and Sabaku Taisou are a devastating combo, and anyone besides Kimimaru would have recieved some damage. Plus he has an impentrable defense.

Toss up, Sasuke with Curse seal/ Kimimaru- Supposedly there curse seals are equal in power. They each have crazy bloodline limits and the seals push their power above and beyond that of any other gennin. To those who would argue Neji or Lee for this, Lee himself admited that Sasuke had his speed and Taijistu style without the seal. With would but him ahead. And even though Lee has the Lotus, its a self damaging move. Also, Neji has skills, but Sasuke and Kimimaru take him in the intangibles. Psycho to the point of selling your soul.

Scouting Squad

Sasuke, Neji, Gaara. Neji and Sasuke use there bloodline limits to see and determine what there up against. Sasuke can read and dodge the opponent. Neji is impossible to abush, at least be everyone whos alive, and Gaaras balanced but dominating power is perfect.
No Shikamaru. Hes a chuunin.

Ryllharu
Tue, 07-20-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by: UnC
SPOILERS INSIDE

If Lee can't hit Neiji, then Lee has no chance. Neiji can errect a force field around his WHOLE body and keep it there without spinning at all. If he manages to catch Lee one time with a Kaiten Lee will be chucked, as far as the 64 Hands of Hakke go. We really don't know why opponents stand there in the first place, are they frozen once in the divination? So far noone has even attempted to dodge it. And didn't you all notice when the 64 Hands of Hake knocked that dood through a huge assed tree? You have no idea how damaging the 64 hands are because it only hit Naruto, who insta heals basically. It hit a Naruto that Neiji was not trying to KILL at the time, if he was he wouldn't have told him a story after the 64 hands lol. If you read the manga and since this section is called Manga you will know that Neiji simply touched a string and killed one of the badguys lol. Hakke or not Lee is in deep shit if he's caught. Lee isn't smart enough to beat Neiji without Gates, he'd run into the field and eventually get Kaitened. If you don't know what field I'm talking about read the Manga.

Also Lee says himself he can't keep that speed up for long. In Taijutsu alone without the super speed Lee NEVER beat Neiji. He'd need to use gates to stand a chance, even then he couldn't get through Neijis chakra field and as we know if we read the Manga, Neiji keeps that damn field up through that entire friggin fight.

Lee loses, and Neiji didn't act surprised at Lees speed until AFTER Lee opened Gates. Which leaves me to assume that Neiji could see Lee with weights off. Also Neiji can feel Chakra approaching him, he doesn't have to see it. READ THE MANGA if you did you'd know that Neiji managed to evade multiple extremely fast Level 2 spider arrows just by sensing them.

You underestimate Byakuugan because you're busy jerking off to Sharringan. I'm talking about my observations about Byakuugan alone I could care less about Sharringan. Neijis not even my favorite character. All I know is that Lee doesn't instant-win vs Neiji at all.

You just don't get it, pull Sasuke/Itachi out of your ass and evaluate Byakuugans accomplishments without comparing it to Sharingan from sources in the Manga. Remember just because Gai says it's the key to beating Neiji, doesn't mean that Lee is good enough to actually beat Neiji. Having a knife may be the key to me beating Mike Tyson, but shiet, if Mike Tyson punches me I'm probably as good as dead. I better bring a friggin gun, Lee's gun is his speed + power. But sorry Neiji brings a bullet proof vest and a goddamn grenade.

I don't want to make this a Neji vs. Lee thread, but you still don't seem to get it.

And no, I am not a fan of any Sharingan users (except Kakashi) and the way Lee is drawn makes me hate him too.

Lee is fast enough to hit Neji before he can enact Kaiten, that was illustrated by how Lee was able to hit through Gaara's sand (something that protects like Kaiten and moves very fast as well). Lee was never in the same place twice during the Gaara fight so we don't know if Neji's opponent needs to be still enough for Neji to start it. I will say that Neji does seem to be able to enact Kaiten in the air (at or least stuck to webs) but that isn't necessarily a plus for him. Lee was having a very hard time tracking Lee WITH his Byakuugan during that fight. Again, I'm not a fan of Sharingan but many people seem to overestimate Byakuugan just like they do Sharingan. As for the spider guy, he was pretty far away and Neji said he lured him into attacking his blindside so he didn't need to see the ultra fast arrows he said he couldn't track. So maybe you need to re-read the manga.

I'm not saying Lee would insta-win against Neji, but he has a very good chance of beating him. Lee has speed (doesn't matter for how long), is better at taijutsu (as long as he doesn't get hit, which is easy with his speed or else Kimimaro would have killed him in 2 seconds), and like Naruto has that same never give up attitude (the same way Naruto eventually beat Neji).


Back to topic once more

Power team:

Naruto - no question
Gaara - same
Chouji - even if the pepper pill/butterfly/flame fist of death seemed to hurt him real bad if not kill him, Chouji DESTROYED that fat strong guy. Shikamaru said he was the strongest guy he knows, and everyone seems to trust Shikamaru, so I'll go with that too.

UnC
Tue, 07-20-2004, 07:27 PM
Ahem, I repeat, Neiji doesn't have to spin to block Lee's attack. He just needs to erect a field. A field that doesn't need to catch up to anything it just extends from his body.

Neiji is better than Lee in Taijutsu Lee is simply faster. Lee admitted to NEVER beating Neiji, he was hoping his speed would be enough. It wouldn't be enough.

Neiji doesn't quit easily either, only reason why he was flattened by Naruto is because he expended almost all of Chakra clashing with Kyuubi Chakra. Lee's chakra is nothing compared to that.

He would need to open the gates, but as was obvious from Neijis fight with spider boy Neiji can erect a dome, he doesn't NEED to spin. The reason why the spider guy could hit Neijis vulnerable spot at the base of his neck was because those shitz were guided, look as the spider guy estimates his accuracy. Pay attention to the manga, as Neiji turns the spot shifts, he was moving a little at the last minute.

Lee wouldn't even know where the spot is, it's a small assed spot, Kidoumarus ability was just insane.

Comprehend. Get off Lees nuts. I'm just saying it all would depend on who runs out of chakra first, if Neiji didn't want Lee to hit him, Lee wouldn't. What part of the stagnant field don't you get? It's the exact reason why Hinatas blows and Spider boys arrows didn't touch Neiji. It's not because he dodged them or even Kaitened them.

(sure he kaitened a couple of arrows but most of the time he was standing still)

Throw in the fact that he can see Lee with weights off, and you have a gamble of whether Lee can keep from getting hit. Once. All Neiji needs. Especially if he's trying to kill him.

Ryllharu
Wed, 07-21-2004, 09:50 AM
First of all, re-read my last post, Neji got hit by those arrows on purpose, he basically didn't see them, but rather knew where they were going to hit (his blind spot).

Second, re-read the manga, like I just did to reply to your post, there is no "force field." Hinata didn't hit him because her gentle fist is far inferior to Neji's. Neji got hit by every one of the spider guy's projectiles, and like Sasuke vs Haku, narrowly avoided getting hit in the vital spots. It wouldn't matter if Lee aimed for the blindspot, I doubt he even knows Neji has one, that's not the point.

Third, I'm not going to reply to this stupid argument anymore, this thread has gotten way off topic during our argument and its clear that neither of us will listen to the other.

Lastly, I don't like Neji or Lee at all, I was just attempting to clarify some of your misinterpretations of the manga (Byakuugan in particular, there was a long discussion thread that you probably missed which cleared up these misinterpretations about BOTH Sharingan and Byakuugan).

UnC
Wed, 07-21-2004, 01:08 PM
It's good that you won't reply because you obviously can't interpret the images very well.
I've actually raised the same topic on a number of forums and many people agree with me.

Got hit on purpose? Yeah, I'm sure he tried to eat all those arrows. Geezus. ANd there's obviously
a field Neiji can erect, and yes, pay attention to the panels with the spider, those arrows aren't ordinary
arrows at all. He did NOT get hit by every arrow.

If you were any further off, I'd say you were missing at least one eye and half a brain.

Edit:

Well holy shit I was wrong =)

I was thinking of the "dagger" things as small arrows, but technically Kido only shoots with a bow and arrow for 2 shots. Neiji got hit by the 2nd arrow on purpose, not the first one. He also doesn't just erect a dome during that fight he's always using full Kaiten.

But anyway if you look at Neijis fight vs Naruto, Naruto punches a field before Neiji spins. The first part is the barrier, the 2nd part the spin is meant to parry the attack. What happens if he doesn't spin? It's simply a barrier. When Neiji fights Hinata everyone sees Hinata "hit" Neiji, what they didn't realize is that he created a barrier so that she couldn't hit him. It was more implied and explained later with Naruto than actually shown.

But you are correct, there is no long standing dome effect during that fight. And there is no proof that he an erect a forcefield and keep it there. My memory was actually remembering Kidomaruous diagrams and not the fight itself where it looked like there was a dome and Neiji was just standing there. So yeah, I did need to reread the manga.

However another argument that can be made is, Sasuke had Lees speed and could barely keep up with Half transformed Gaara. Kyuubi Naruto kept up with half transformed Gaara. Neiji was able to keep up with Naruto + he has Byakuugan.

I'll concede Lee with 5 gates may very well beat Neiji, but at a very high cost. I'm also sure it won't be easy.

aznph8playa
Wed, 07-21-2004, 03:52 PM
Wow soo much about neji vs Lee but I doubt Lee would win. Like it has been said before, Neji is pretty cunning and was able to create his own versions of the different techniques of the Main Family (or what ever the byagukan family calls itself)

Info Retreve and Scout Team:

-Shikamaru (perfect for any strategies needed to be devized); If he can't be had then Shino whose cunning would help helped him become a chuunin if he had had a chance to show his skills in the arean IMO anyhow
-Neji, the byakugan can see for miles (shown by Hinata during the second part of the Chuunin exam) and Neji isn't an ignorant person so he would be cool headed enough to find the enemy, track them and not do anything stupid
-Ino, she can also be a bit witty and knows her limits. Her mind control technique would be useful in trying to retrieve a secret or trick an enemy

Power House Team:

-Naruto, the Nine Tails is clearly an unfair advantage to any monster and even without it, he is very creative in a tight spot and can be a leader when need be (remember his battle against Zabuza)
-Sasuke, he can copy techniques used by the enemy and use them back if need be and he also has the chidori and his taijutsu speed, also he can see behind the trickery of attacks
-Gaara, beautiful defense, good offensive abilities; his respect for Naruto is obvious and he would be helpful in a tight spot

Although there wouldn't be a strong leader among the group, all of them respect each other and so there would be enough comradship that they would work together.

Quick Assisnation Team:

I'm really unsure about this but someone brought this up earlier so here's a quick team, you decide the reasoning

Sasuke, Kabuto (if you don't count him as Genin then Lee), Shino (He ended all his battles with quick strategies)



Thats about it and for those of you still not realizing it, the first post says a Dream Team of Genins only