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miaka
Sun, 06-06-2004, 06:55 PM
hmm... i have to say tsukuyomi so far

chambers
Sun, 06-06-2004, 06:56 PM
i dont even think its an arguable thing. if it hits its game over. i dont think the seal tech is comparable as it costs both lives involved. the mangekyou sharingan on the other hand just destroys people.

ShinobiNeko
Sun, 06-06-2004, 07:01 PM
I would have to say Tsukiyomi... one powerful jutsu

Jessper
Sun, 06-06-2004, 07:08 PM
What?! Where is Konoha's secret technique, 1000 years of pain! i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

miaka
Sun, 06-06-2004, 07:10 PM
i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif got a point.. i will add it right away i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Outtawack311
Sun, 06-06-2004, 07:15 PM
Gotta be one of the ones used in the hokage battle.

ShinobiNeko
Sun, 06-06-2004, 07:21 PM
i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif why is Kisame's sword on that....sword is pretty cheap
edt: and if that's the case might as well of added Zabuza's sword i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

miaka
Sun, 06-06-2004, 07:22 PM
hmm... but kisame's one could absorb the chakra...

jing
Sun, 06-06-2004, 08:14 PM
i say, frog stomach. it made itachi run for this life.

Masamune
Sun, 06-06-2004, 08:25 PM
solely based on the strength of the jutsu , i'd go for the sealing jutsu of the 4th

( not counting the cost of your own life, this poll is just about the strongest jutsu )

Himura_san
Sun, 06-06-2004, 08:58 PM
It has to be the undefeated Harem No Jutsu, it has taken down even the 3rd!

miaka
Sun, 06-06-2004, 09:02 PM
heh.. true.. but... don't think it can take down oro and itachi..

orn210
Sun, 06-06-2004, 09:27 PM
i wanna talk about what i chose but i'll be banned right away so i would say the 4th's sealing jutsu but you have to be very fast to grab your opponent

Terracosmo
Sun, 06-06-2004, 09:33 PM
Neji's 64 hands, has nothing to do with me being a Neji fanboy of course.

ShinobiNeko
Sun, 06-06-2004, 09:34 PM
lol.. I do think 64 hands is pretty strong... ^_^ especially like using that on on the second naruto gamecube game

miaka
Sun, 06-06-2004, 09:36 PM
heh.. yeah.. if one gets attacked with that.. no more chakra... V_V opponent woudl be in big trouble unless they have kyubi's healing power like naruto

orn210
Sun, 06-06-2004, 09:40 PM
yeah after you do 64 you can just toy with your opponenti/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Uchiha Barles
Sun, 06-06-2004, 11:03 PM
Of the ones listed, I'd have to say rock lee's opening of the gates. Anyone who learns it can do it. Imagine if a jounin like kakashi did it. With over a thousand techniques at his command, I most certainly like to see what could be done. Of the ones not listed, I'd say Naruto's uh...expulsion of red chakra. You might say it's not a technique and that he's just wasting chakra, but the fact that it wraps around him instead of just pouring it gives it a technikee feeling to me. Anyway, I'd like to see it against rock's gate opening.

SeifeR
Mon, 06-07-2004, 12:29 AM
ill say itachi's amaterasu because jiraiya had to seal it, it seems like its a crazy technique so that gets my vote

Gods_Son
Mon, 06-07-2004, 01:21 AM
Amaterasu

Aeon
Mon, 06-07-2004, 01:38 AM
Me saying Neji's 64hands technique has nothing to do with me being a fanboy either, not only is it painful but it stop's you from using chakra for a period of time.

kupalmaru
Mon, 06-07-2004, 09:53 AM
1000 years of pain

This is the one that Naruto will use to counter the power of ameterasu and tsukuyumi(from the behind).

thebaze
Mon, 06-07-2004, 10:06 AM
Itachi's tsukuyomi
Itachi's amaterasu

What is each of these?

I personally think Oro's summoning of the dead is the most powerful. It basically killed the 3rd by forcing him to use the 4ths death god technique. As you can see I'm not up to speed on "official" names for stuff i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

chambers
Mon, 06-07-2004, 10:40 AM
amaterasu is the black flame technique revealed two eps ago. it hansnt even been fully shown yet.
tsukuyomi is itachis ability to take someone to his own plane of exsistance kind of. in this plane he contorls everything including time and space, in it he can inflict massive mental damage wich the body can be lead to believe is real, thus leading to real damage.

Mut
Mon, 06-07-2004, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by: chambers
...in it he can inflict massive mental damage wich the body can be lead to believe is real, thus leading to real damage.

no no no. it cannot cause real damage. real MENTAL damage, but not real PHYSICAL damage. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

chambers
Mon, 06-07-2004, 11:57 AM
i mean reaql damage as in it actually takes effect, not as in kakashi would start to bleed from evey hole in his body i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

miaka
Mon, 06-07-2004, 01:11 PM
heh... you guys are hilarious... ^_ ^ i hope they show some new jutsus... i especially want to see shika learn more... (like shika's dad technique... how did you guys like the ino,shika, chouji's dad technique?

Feannag
Tue, 06-08-2004, 06:44 PM
In terms of sheer strength and power, Lee's gate-opening cannot be beat. But of course that power comes with the price of death...

miaka
Tue, 06-08-2004, 06:48 PM
only if they over do it

chambers
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:03 PM
nope if you open all gates you die. end off. thats the way gai or kakashi explained it at least.

miaka
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:06 PM
there is certain limit ppl have.. like rock lee can only open 4.. and Gai can prob open more

chambers
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:08 PM
no i think rock lee is only able to open four not due to his abilities, but more like the way sasuke can only use chidori 3 times a day is it? as he matures he will get better as iam sure rock lee will.

miaka
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:10 PM
yea.. they did say if you open all the gate you die.. but will be strong as hokage... but as long as you dont' over do it.. it's okay..

chambers
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:12 PM
hmm i dont remeber that bit, have to go back an look!

ShinobiNeko
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:13 PM
yeah thought they said if you open all the gates would die but be very strong for that moment of time like hokage

Shadow-wolf
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:36 PM
I'll go with Rock Lee also.

jing
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:38 PM
Just imagine if a Hokage opened gates....... thats freaking crazy.

ShinobiNeko
Tue, 06-08-2004, 07:40 PM
I do think that it be crazy if hokage could open the gates

LaZie
Tue, 06-08-2004, 08:06 PM
now im wondering, why the 3rd didnt open gates instead of sealing them? Better results, same price =P

ShinobiNeko
Tue, 06-08-2004, 08:09 PM
probably because he didn't know how to do it...to me seems only taijutsu specialists know how to do it

miaka
Tue, 06-08-2004, 08:09 PM
i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif cause he didn't learn it from Gai sensei... i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

LaZie
Tue, 06-08-2004, 08:11 PM
anyways, back to the topic........id have to say Itachi's Amaterasu is best so far. Have u ever seen black flames before?! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

miaka
Tue, 06-08-2004, 08:23 PM
V_V i can't edit or add polls anymore.. so.. don't ask me to add anything... looks like computer problem... @_@

orn210
Tue, 06-08-2004, 09:57 PM
but i dont think amaterasu is all about black flames i think there is still a lot more powerfull things that amaterasu can do

ShinobiNeko
Tue, 06-08-2004, 10:07 PM
maybe....just have to wait and see about that

frexeze
Wed, 06-09-2004, 12:17 PM
i dont believe that Gai and rock lee are the only ones who can open gates. i am currently away from my computer for the week, so i am not 100% sure.. but i seem to recall kakashi opening a gate when he was training to fight zabuza i think. anyone else remember this? he was climbing that rock wall with one hand and then he opened the first gate to make it to the top.. or maybe i'm being an idiot haha.. can anyone verify

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:06 PM
okay, i don't ever remember Kakashi opening the gates...i don't think he can do that

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:08 PM
no he didn't open gate.... i think he used chakra...

Assertn
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:18 PM
then why did kakashi say "kai" (release) and they showed the chakra circulatory system and his brain as if he was removing the 1st gate near his brain i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:20 PM
nah... i mean chakra circulating means nothing.. that's what it's supposed to do.. i do not think he can open the gates.. then he would be stronger than gai.. but they rival each other.. remember?

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:23 PM
They did more than show chakra circulating. The showed a point on his chakra circulation system dissapearing. It's location corresponded to that of the first gate as shown when Gai was explaining it to everyone. He copied the gate opening technique from Rock.

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:28 PM
wel.. they would have said so.. if they did.. it prob is just a release of chakra

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:35 PM
but i seem to recall kakashi opening a gate when he was training to fight zabuza i think. anyone else remember this? he was climbing that rock wall with one hand and then he opened the first gate to make it to the top..

Umm.. I believe you are being silly because 1.) Kakashi never climbed any rock wall during that whole Zubaza & Haku part (I don't think there was a rock wall around at all during those eps..) and 2.) He didn't open any gates to finish climbing... he just pushed himself real hard... u kno.. like when you ::insert toilet humor::

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:37 PM
kakashi was climbing a rock when he was going to train sasuke and teach him chidori, that must be the part you are talking about

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:40 PM
yeah, this was during the one month break or sometime before it, during the chuunin exam, can't remember which ep. As far as them having said something it about, they didn't say anything, but that scene was far too suggestive for me to leave it at chakra flowing. So was kakashi unveiling his eye to look at rock while he was opening the gates.

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:44 PM
OKay... i do not think he can open the gate... i mean seriously.. THEY NEVER SAID IT... and if that is the case.. then i feel sorry for gai and rock lee.. that kakashi was able to copy their most powerful move...

V_V besides.. if kakshi was able to copy those stuffs.. why would gai and kakashi be rival? kakashi would be stronger than him..

besides.. it's stupid of kakashi if he opened to the gate just to climb a rock.. are you insulting kakashi?

Assertn
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:50 PM
to lift his weight completely into the air after climbing most of the mountain using one hand? i wouldnt question it

you guys act like unlocking gates is some incredible task for jounins to be able to perform, but if we hadnt seen ebisu perform kage bunshin, then you'd prolly say that it would be difficult to perform that jutsu for most jounins as well

what WOULD be insulting would be saying that some 2nd year genin like rock lee can perform something that a really skilled ninjutsu jounin cannot. kakashi knows all about the gates thing, so why wouldnt he know how to use it? now maybe he cant open 5 gates, but im sure opening 1 is no difficult task.

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 01:53 PM
In that scene, kakashi said something to the effect that he wasn't as strong as he used to be. Then, you could see the struggling in his eye, right after that, you could his fingers slipping from the rocks. Right after that, he closed his eyes and the scene changed to show the chakra circulatory system with all of the gates (or should I say points). Zoomed into one of them (it was in his head where the brain would be) and the they showed it dissapear. Right after that, kakashi made the final climb. Not only did he make it, he made so easily that he pretty much propelled himself with that one arm he had nearly lost all strenght in. After hearing the description of what the opening of the first gate does (releases the limit the brain puts upon how much muscle power you can access) it seemed pretty clear that he opened the first gate. They didn't have to say anything because we had already gotten an explanation of it a few episodes earlier. Kind of like how they don't bother explaining how to mold chakra anymore.

Don't feel sorry for Rock and Gai, because I'd bet my last dollar that their bodies are far stronger than kakashi's, so they can probably make better use of the technique than kakashi can

Edit to Jesper:
I don't think he knew how to do it before he saw rock do it. There had to be a reason he unveiled his eye during the exam and I think it was to copy the technique. I don't think it was just to look and see inside, because I don't think the sharingan can do that, like the byakugan can. If his eye can't do that, and he already knows the technique, then there was no point at all. I'd like to think there was a point.

Jessper
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:10 PM
Episode 55, 13 min, 30 seconds, it shows kakshi climing a cliff and his foot support breaks and he is about to fall(his fingers are losing their grip), it goes to the chakara system focusing on the brain and Kakshi says Relase! then he throws him self up with one arm to the next spot.

I would say he released one gate, though I really doubt he copyed it because it isn't a technique(he didn't use hand seals as one hand was literally tied behind his back).

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:17 PM
Hmmm since we are so intrigued about this I decided to go over the ep with that rock climbing scene (tookm e 10 mins to find.......) it was in EPISODE 55. And after viewing Lee's gate opening ep (49) fidning the quote "Secondary Lotus is a move that opens the first gate, the Open Gate... It unfastens the control of the brain, and enables a person to use his muscles at their limits." Although I was skeptic at first... It seems to be logical that Kakashi did open a gate to get that boost of energy and fling himself up with his middle and ring finger during episode 55 (yes there was a scene where it showed Kakashi's brain and then Kakashi says "Release".) So now I support the notion that Kakashi can open the gate! Bwhahahahahaha ..... ^_^v

::Edit:: Forgot to add that I also believe that Kakashi should have already known how to do the technique and he did not use his Sharingan during Lee's fight to copy it. Besides.. how many Juunin level battles have we seen thus far? From the point of the invasion and till Itachi we have seen Juunins own ass but it seems like their techniques are degraded compared to how they showed the characters do theri techniques during the Chuunin exam. Maybe we have yet to see a "true" juunin battle. I wanna see more hokage battles though! =/

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:24 PM
okay okay then kakashi opened a gate

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:27 PM
Bwhahahaha... thats right... kneel to my powers... ... god I really need to get a job... oh yea also i voted for Amaterasu just because they made it seem so powerful (strong enough to bust a frog belly! bwhahahaha) so yea power = pwnage, pwnage = me like

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by: ShinobiNeko
okay okay then kakashi opened a gate


lol. Tired of arguing are you?
i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

And to dragonzero: then why did he use the sharingan in the rock lee fight? because he did use it.

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:32 PM
lol yes, because i didn't remember him opening at gate but you guys went back and checked, so yeah.. lol and dragun no, not going to bow down , you'd have to force me i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif . either way, that argument solved

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:33 PM
I dunno just too look cool and show off to Gai and make him remember the battles they had.
Kakashi - "Hey look Gai remember this o.O"
Gai - "NoooOooOoooo!!! Too hip!!!"

And on the serious side... I think Kakashi wanted to see how far Lee can push it... and to keep up with his movements maybe?

::Edit:: Oh also Kakashi may have low self-esteem... u know with that head guard always covering his eye.. maybe he's shy of that scar. So to give his self-esteem a little boost he might have wanted to see how far Lee could go just to say "Yea... I can beat that.. nice try genin."

Jessper
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles


Originally posted by: ShinobiNeko
okay okay then kakashi opened a gate


lol. Tired of arguing are you?
i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

And to dragonzero: then why did he use the sharingan in the rock lee fight? because he did use it.

To be able to see the movement imo, not to copy as nothing we have seen so far hints to him being able to copy something that you can't see especially when he isn't making eye contact(gates are inside and there is no technique to do it involving hand seals) Though he did use it like you said but I don't think to copy the gate opening ability.

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:36 PM
Oh...that makes sense. Can't believe I didn't think of that. As far as I can tell, that doesn't discredit the possibility that he did copy the technique, but I just went from positive that he did, to not really knowing.

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:38 PM
Eh... I'm getting kinda tired... atleast we can all agree on Kakashi opening gates IS a possibility... now lets go have a picnic with the rest of Akatsuki and the kidnapped Naruto bwahahahahaha........ ..... (-.-)

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:39 PM
with ramen

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:41 PM
I'll bring the froot loops

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:42 PM
hahaha... but they are all in a mission... they are all too busy to go on a picnic...

Jessper
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:43 PM
I think everyone understands that Kakshi did open a gate but now the discussion moved to did he copy it from lee or not =P

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:45 PM
WRONG! Their mission IS the picnic! Thats why they split up into teams

Team A: Bring Naruto along so he can have the childhood picnic he never had
Team B: Get Drinks
Team C: Get Food
Team D: Ask other murderous wanted nins to come along so they can have a break away from hiding and plotting to get revenge and murder someone, something, destroy some place, etc.

So Akatsuki isn't a bad organization. They just want peace, love, and undertsanding for all fellow nins.

And yes ramen and tie dye fruit loops would own.

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:45 PM
don't forget the milk uchiha... and Jessper, I don't think Kakashi copied it..since i thought it was an internal thing...if he did copy it, then how did he @_@
edit: actually, better stop with the picnic stuff..someones going to come in mad if not

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:46 PM
Not really, I just wanted an explanation of what else he could have possibly been doing with the sharingan out that wasn't simply a waste. The answer was obvious but I didn't see it for some reason. Either way, it's over now.

And Dragon says: "So Akatsuki isn't a bad organization. They just want peace, love, and undertsanding for all fellow nins."

I agree. That was some AWESOME peace and love shown to Sasuke. Also, Itachi's heart is so black that his fire can't even come normally. This brand of peace and love, we need more of it!

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:50 PM
lol, good one uchiha...

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:55 PM
oh yeah? then how come they spend money rather than getting money?? DraGunZer0


i would really like to see more amaterasu

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 02:59 PM
Obviously man! Thats what i call hardcore brotherly love. Damn if I had a little brother like Sasuke I'd slap him around silly and give him warning threats and tell him to survive in an unsightly way so that one day he could kill me. Just show you how much you care for your little brother. ::Being serious now:: And who knows (unless you peeked into the manga), maybe Itachi's ultimate goal was to get Sasuke stronger than him... I dunno just a thought because he let Sasuke live for some reason and he did mess around with Sasuke (poke him on teh forehead and leave a lil mark.) So maybe Itachi does care for Sasuke... but he shows it in a strange way... just like little kids who don't know how to show their emotion example: Boy pushes girl to the ground and she lands in a puddle of mud, boy runs off yelling "I LIKE YOU!!!~~~"

::Edit:: They get their money from charity work. Thats another plus about Akatsuki, since they are all for love and peace and stuff they also do charity work. I believe one day they will all come to Konoha and rebuild the buildings that were destroyed during the invasion. As you can see, Orochimaru was kicked out of the group NOT because he feared Itachi (that was his lame excuse to show his badassness to umm...forgot his name purple clothes wearing glasses dude) but the real reason was because he could not care enough for people. He hurt people but it was not out of loving hurt, he just hated them. So he was banned from Akatsuki.

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:00 PM
i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif yea.. maybe that's why he beat hinm up real bad.. and used tsukuyomi on him

lol... really... what charity works do they do? =X.. just cannot imagine ITachi doing charity work (working with babies and such... )

EDit: then why did Itachi show him the hard past.. instead of loving past?

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:12 PM
I think using Tsukuyomi is Itachi's way of showing respect for a fellow being. Like when Itachi used it on Kakashi. He didn't kill Kakashi but instead just messed him up psychologically. And when he did it on Sasuke, Itachi just wanted to remind Sasuke of how much he loved Sasuke by showing him the past and how he showed so much affection towards him and no one else.

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:12 PM
if that's your theory dragun then what about kisame? huh? He always wants to cut up people with his sword, that's not charity

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:14 PM
Kisame is also another odd fellow. He doesn't chop things up to see blood and kill people. It's his way of playing around... like tag... he just has a rough way of playing.

::Edit:: Why are you peopel so pessimistic about Akatsuki.. jeeze why can you look at the good side... N e wayz Akatsuki hope, pride, and friendship forever! and Amaterasu owns all!

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:16 PM
Charity? I like their brand of charity too. The kind where you gladly donate money, given the alternative of death. Akatsuki, such humanitarians.

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:20 PM
hmm back to the topic.. i don't think haku's attack was weak at all.. how come no one is voting for it..
and how did you guys think about chouji, Ino, shika's parent's techniques?

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:23 PM
dragun, you make akatsuki sound like sailor moon group or something .. as for strong jutsu, i thought haku's was pretty strong and it was interesting to the chouji/ino/shika's parent's techniques.. just hope they learn those as well

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:27 PM
I didn't vote for it because all you need to do to not get defeated by it is get out from the middle. I bet you can do it without even having to open 5 gates. But even so, why bother getting out when you can just pull a Naruto and pound the crap out of him. For a bloodline limit, it seemed pretty weak. Of the techniques you listed, it's not the weakest, but it seems to be one of the weaker ones.

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:29 PM
I think Haku's attack was lame (although still neat, gotta love the bloodline limits) compared to the other line ups on the voting list..

And their parents... out of the Shika, Ino, Chouji trio I would probably have to go for Shikamaru's shadow thingy ability. So far it's the only technique out of the 3 that did something cool. Chouji's expand-in-size thing attack was too lame... and he was defeated too easily, his dad... it was dull. Ino's ability is ok.. but I wouldn't vote for it if there are other techniques to vote for, her dad's version is a little better. Shika would probably be the only technique that would be worth voting for.

::Edit:: Akatsuki = humanitarian sailor moon extreme-ists

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:29 PM
but for haku.. that's not the only thing he can do.. because of his blood ability.. he can do seals with one hand... hmm.. i do agree that haku;'s attack is not the strongest,.. but i just found it surprising nobody votred for it

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:31 PM
Are you sure it was because of his bloodline limit that he can do seals with only 1 hand? I'm wondering if higher ranked nins could do 1 handed seals...

miaka
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:32 PM
hmmm... i m sure... that's like his special bloodline ability

DraGunZer0
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:34 PM
lemme go check real quick...

::Edit:: Bah getting pretty tired.. and I saw the ep and Kakashi does state that he has never seen anyone do that before so I'll take your word for it

Uchiha Barles
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:35 PM
Although I can't prove it, it seemed like Itachi was doing one handed seals as well. When he was fighting kakashi, he was using one hand to distract him from the fact that he was performing a jutsu. I'm thinking he was using the other hand to form the seals.

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:35 PM
I did read on a naruto information page that it was part of Haku's bloodline...so far i'm guessing it's true since i don't think we have seen anyone else that could do that Edit: except for maybe Itachi but that has been discussed and can't come up with an exact answer as to if he did or not

Jessper
Wed, 06-09-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by: ShinobiNeko
don't forget the milk uchiha... and Jessper, I don't think Kakashi copied it..since i thought it was an internal thing...if he did copy it, then how did he @_@
edit: actually, better stop with the picnic stuff..someones going to come in mad if not

I agree with you, I don't think Kakshi copyed it from Lee I was just saying that most people probably agree that Kakshi opened a gate and now we were discussing if he copyed it or not.

ShinobiNeko
Wed, 06-09-2004, 08:34 PM
yeah seems agreeable that he did open a gate

Uchiha-Itachi
Thu, 06-10-2004, 02:04 AM
Kuchiyose no Jutsu and summon Gamabunta i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Demonic Ice Mirrors? (if your stupid enough to get caught in it)

Tsukuyomi..

And Amaterasu is something like chidori (maybe a bit stronger and/or efficient) i bet chidori would have blasted a whole in that frog stomach too..

Uchiha Barles
Thu, 06-10-2004, 02:07 AM
Hey, chidori does in fact cut through lighting (whatever the fuck that means). Too bad a simple side step completely and utterly defeats it.

Assertn
Thu, 06-10-2004, 02:15 AM
the sharingan allows the person to guide the chidori regardless of attempts to counter it though

the only way a simple side step works is prolly when the person countering ALSO has a sharingan

Jessper
Thu, 06-10-2004, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Hey, chidori does in fact cut through lighting (whatever the fuck that means). Too bad a simple side step completely and utterly defeats it.

Ya, thats why the Chidori works best for a Sharingan user like Assertn said, also to cut through lightning would take insane timing and some way to keep it from simply going through you and electrocuting you. It would be pretty hard me thinks...

EDIT: OT did the forums just change on everyone else? o.0

Uchiha Barles
Thu, 06-10-2004, 02:43 AM
Alright, but since it's not a bloodline limit, it's weak for just about anyone without the byakugan or the sharingan. Because it is available to everyone, in general it is a weaker technique. Too much chakra for something so easily beat. Any strenght the chidori supposedly has I give to the power of the eye jutsus, not the chidori itself.

Assertn
Thu, 06-10-2004, 02:47 AM
true, and it is a relatively simple technique, which is prolly why kakashi was able to develop it easy enough. but like lee and gai were saying, only sharingan (and possibly byakugan) users could ever use the move effectively, since it requires a head-on dash to the enemy that leaves the person wide open to counters if he doesnt possess the eye ability to see it coming.....

therefore, you wouldnt see any character that doesnt possess an eye ability like sharingan ever using chidori

Uchiha Barles
Thu, 06-10-2004, 02:54 AM
You're right.

miaka
Thu, 06-10-2004, 03:33 AM
yeah.. chidori works best with sharingon.. cuase it covers their defence(cause they can see what they are doing with sharingon

uchiha: to view PM you have to click on new messages up top if you click on that you will see the messages that were send.. if you click on the letter of the person who send it.. you get the option of viewing it fully..
(i m not gonna send any today.. T_T me's tired.. and going to sleep.. well bye)

Tass
Thu, 06-10-2004, 03:38 AM
nighterz Mia! i said i was goin to sleep hours ago =p ...ok, ok, for reals this time

miaka
Thu, 06-10-2004, 01:15 PM
i really like your icon ^_^.. and your sig word... ^_^ tass

Board of Command
Thu, 06-10-2004, 02:47 PM
This might be considered spoilers, but anyways...

Someone once told me that Jiraiya's new technique is much more powerful than it first seems. The first time Jiraiya purposely made it weak so he wouldn't kill that other ninja. In reality the more chakra you put into the ball the more powerful it is, and after Naruto perfects it it is over 10 times more powerful than Sasuke's chidori. It's not meant for spinning the enemy, it's meant for damage. Spinning is only a side effect of forming the chakra ball. This jutsu=MASS DAMAGE

Tass
Fri, 06-11-2004, 04:42 AM
Thanx Mia!! =^_^=

...i wish i could figure out what yours is =P ...i see bubbles...and uhh...and 2 people? a girl with purple hair and a guy pulling her? how close am i? lol...sorry...i hope that doesn't offend you (especially after you gave me such a nice complament ^_^) ...just courious...

ShinobiNeko
Fri, 06-11-2004, 08:13 PM
Tass..miaka's icon is kind of hard to tell but it's Tamahome from Fushigi Yuugi, that's money in the background and he's trowing some money

Tass
Sat, 06-12-2004, 05:29 AM
ohh!! i see that now! hee hee thanx...my eyes are goin bad me thinx =P

PSJ
Sat, 06-12-2004, 01:51 PM
not somethign you can argue about. mangekyou sharingan is the strongest.

DraGunZer0
Sat, 06-12-2004, 01:55 PM
:EDIT: Never mind.. eyes playing tricks on me...

ShinobiNeko
Sat, 06-12-2004, 01:56 PM
heh dragun it does say 'which do you think is the most strong jutsu/attack so far" <- "so far"

DraGunZer0
Sat, 06-12-2004, 01:58 PM
I just woke up, eyes were blurry and I dont think I ever even read the title of the thread... bahhhh leave me alone

PSJ
Sat, 06-12-2004, 02:45 PM
lol what did you write in the first place?

ShinobiNeko
Sat, 06-12-2004, 04:33 PM
hehe, okay dragun i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Eurasian
Sat, 06-12-2004, 06:56 PM
i voted for the 4th sealing technique...but i don't think it's just that. it's the summoning of the shinigami/death god. you'll die for sure...but the user will die too.

i was going to vote for jiraiya's frog's stomach summoning or whatever because itachi ran away...but i think if u got the death god by ur side (kind of), ur victory is already written.

jing
Sat, 06-12-2004, 07:24 PM
Summoning no jutsu in my opinion is pretty good. especially if you sumon gamabunta or enma, king of monkeys.

because the thing is that, when you fight, while itachi mangekyou sharingan you, your summon would probably whoop him pretty hard in that 2 seconds when he was unaware of his surroundings.

zeion22
Sun, 06-13-2004, 02:26 AM
The strongest attack has to be rock lee's gates, if he only opened up 8 he would surpase a kage in power and will do unbelieveable damage, even though killing him self doing it, but it is the most powerful!

zeion22
Sun, 06-13-2004, 02:38 AM
o and second has to be the new jutsu Jiraiya teaches naruto, *SPOILER* *DONT READ*

, y because only 3 people have been able to master it; the 4th, Jiraiya, and naruto. Plus like BOARD said

In reality the more chakra you put into the ball the more powerful it is,... that is true and the ball never goes away until you are dead or u run out of chakra. O and Chidori has nothing on this move!!!

Hikiro
Sun, 06-13-2004, 08:43 AM
I like Kakashi's ANBU Jutsu from volume 4. and Kakashi's Lightning Edge that Killed Haku.

Shinji Ikari
Sun, 06-13-2004, 10:03 AM
I think whatever fire-attack that Itachi used to break free of Jiraya's frog prison is one of the strongest so far...

Hikiro
Sun, 06-13-2004, 10:41 AM
Acually I don't know about my favorite Jutsu i like 3 but I also like the sharigan Jutsu and Haku's Advanced Bloodline I think it was awesome in volume 3 and 4 I also liked Hatake Kakashi's Sharigan, Lightning edge and ANBU attacks.

-Hikiro

jing
Sun, 06-13-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by: zeion22
o and second has to be the new jutsu Jiraiya teaches naruto, *SPOILER* *DONT READ*

, y because only 3 people have been able to master it; the 4th, Jiraiya, and naruto. Plus like BOARD said

In reality the more chakra you put into the ball the more powerful it is,... that is true and the ball never goes away until you are dead or u run out of chakra. O and Chidori has nothing on this move!!!

Thats not true you retard. You are what everyone calls a LIAR.

DraGunZer0
Sun, 06-13-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
lol what did you write in the first place?
I thought the topic was strongest attack (didnt see the 'so far' at the end of it... )



Originally posted by: zeion22
o and second has to be the new jutsu Jiraiya teaches naruto, *SPOILER* *DONT READ*

, y because only 3 people have been able to master it; the 4th, Jiraiya, and naruto. Plus like BOARD said

In reality the more chakra you put into the ball the more powerful it is,... that is true and the ball never goes away until you are dead or u run out of chakra. O and Chidori has nothing on this move!!!
In reality the more chakra you put into the ball the more powerful it is,...
if thats true then wouldn't that also apply to chidori... putting more chakra into it = more damage...

that is true and the ball never goes away until you are dead or u run out of chakra. O and Chidori has nothing on this move!!!
The ball went away in ep 86 and jiraiya didn't die or run out of chakra... And how would you know how strong this new move Naruto is learning compared to the Chidori when it's only been shown in 1 ep and it was a weak version of it... unless you have read teh manga which we are NOT discussing..

Minse
Sun, 06-13-2004, 12:56 PM
So far I think any illusionary technique e.g. Itachi, Naruto and so on and that can take the enemy by surprise or cause disillusionment in the heat of battle inhibiting their oponnent(s) ability to counter.

- Minse

Board of Command
Sun, 06-13-2004, 02:26 PM
unless you have read teh manga which we are NOT discussing..
Well that's why I posted spoiler alert. I guess you are kinda right about this, because the title does say "so far".

Assertn
Sun, 06-13-2004, 02:53 PM
dont be lame......nobody wants to see spoilers anyway, so dont even bother posting any

DraGunZer0
Sun, 06-13-2004, 05:22 PM
I wanna see Enma again... the monkey king must make a come back! Hope Naruto can later summon Enma (or atleast someone else summon him.)

orn210
Sun, 06-13-2004, 07:37 PM
yeah summons are cool they can even do their own jutsus

Jessper
Sun, 06-13-2004, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command


unless you have read teh manga which we are NOT discussing..
Well that's why I posted spoiler alert. I guess you are kinda right about this, because the title does say "so far".

Read the name of the forum once again please, No spoilers!! No one here cares to see that you read the managa and know about the episodes that havn't happened yet, thats why there is a open discussion forum.

WarkWark
Mon, 06-14-2004, 01:50 AM
Well I remember a part in the anime when Itachi said
"you are weak because you do not hate me enough"

This quote seems to make me believe that Itachi wants Sasuke to be good, in the flashback of the Uchiha massacre, Itachi said that "he did it because he wanted to see how good he was"

Perhaps he wants to have a challenge, and knows that the only person that really has a chance of killing him would be Sasuke who shares the same bloodline limits as Itachi, he is trying to make the hate between them stronger, so that Sasuke will try harder to kill him, so he can have more of a challenge.

just an idea.

jing
Mon, 06-14-2004, 12:45 PM
if he wants a challenge, the don't run awar from jiraiya. heck if he wants a challenge then just ask all the akastuki members to gang up on him.

DraGunZer0
Mon, 06-14-2004, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by: WarkWark
Well I remember a part in the anime when Itachi said
"you are weak because you do not hate me enough"

This quote seems to make me believe that Itachi wants Sasuke to be good
Another sign of brotherly love from itachi and Akatsuki.... k i'll stop bringing that up...

Kef
Mon, 06-14-2004, 01:58 PM
I'm going for the risegan!

ShinobiNeko
Mon, 06-14-2004, 02:20 PM
i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif okay dragun

Knives122
Mon, 06-14-2004, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by: Kef
I'm going for the risegan!

its Rasengen, not risegan, MORON!!

jing
Mon, 06-14-2004, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by: Knives122


Originally posted by: Kef
I'm going for the risegan!

its Rasengen, not risegan, MORON!!

Your the moron for spoiling. And by the way you don't know how to spell it too. Haha loser.

CapsuleCorpJX
Tue, 06-15-2004, 12:01 AM
For a non-suicidal jutsu, I'd say Jiraya's "suddenly you're in teh stomach of a frog" jutsu.

It almost killed two S-Class criminals.



But for the strongest jutsu period, definately the Fourth's sealing jutsu, its the only one that can defeat a demon as powerful as Kyuubi.

CapsuleCorpJX
Tue, 06-15-2004, 12:01 AM
For a non-suicidal jutsu, I'd say Jiraya's "suddenly you're in teh stomach of a frog" jutsu.

It almost killed two S-Class criminals.



But for the strongest jutsu period, definately the Fourth's sealing jutsu, its the only one that can defeat a demon as powerful as Kyuubi.

CapsuleCorpJX
Tue, 06-15-2004, 12:01 AM
For a non-suicidal jutsu, I'd say Jiraya's "suddenly you're in teh stomach of a frog" jutsu.

It almost killed two S-Class criminals.



But for the strongest jutsu period, definately the Fourth's sealing jutsu, its the only one that can defeat a demon as powerful as Kyuubi.

CapsuleCorpJX
Tue, 06-15-2004, 12:01 AM
For a non-suicidal jutsu, I'd say Jiraya's "suddenly you're in teh stomach of a frog" jutsu.

It almost killed two S-Class criminals.



But for the strongest jutsu period, definately the Fourth's sealing jutsu, its the only one that can defeat a demon as powerful as Kyuubi.

Assertn
Tue, 06-15-2004, 12:45 AM
um wow capsulecorp.....settle down

jing
Tue, 06-15-2004, 08:38 AM
I think the strongest jutsu is kawarimi no jutsu. Because you never get hit. YES GO SAKURA lol.

Board of Command
Tue, 06-15-2004, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by: jing


Originally posted by: Knives122
its Rasengen, not risegan, MORON!!

Your the moron for spoiling.
Rasengan has been mentioned and discussed over and over in the previous 6 pages, so I don't know why you're making a fuss about it now...

Uzumaki Naruto
Tue, 06-15-2004, 10:05 PM
id ave to say the frog stomach thing bc if it made itachi run and also made him use the black flame technique thingamajig then it has to be strong

kupalmaru
Tue, 06-15-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by: CapsuleCorpJX
But for the strongest jutsu period, definately the Fourth's sealing jutsu, its the only one that can defeat a demon as powerful as Kyuubi.
You have a point there, because it can defeat a powerfull enemy. My only question is when the Third hokage uses that jutso to oro. Oro survive with his hand damage. If an enemy is more powerful or have the same knowledge as oro, will the Fourth's sealing be enough to defeat that enemy.

jing
Wed, 06-16-2004, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command


Originally posted by: jing


Originally posted by: Knives122
its Rasengen, not risegan, MORON!!

Your the moron for spoiling.
Rasengan has been mentioned and discussed over and over in the previous 6 pages, so I don't know why you're making a fuss about it now...

So I'm making a fuss about it now?????
Just so you know Knives122 spoils often, so i'm just making it obvious to him so he can shut up, since he never sees my private messages(i keep telling to to edit out spoilers, but he never listens).