Music: HIP HOP!!!

[Kardiva]

yea but his CD was sooo wack. hopefully he's gonna come out with some better stuff next time

[SK]

doubt it...
im listening to a lot of immortal technique and papoose right now, should check these guys out.

[Kardiva]

Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
doubt it...
im listening to a lot of immortal technique and papoose right now, should check these guys out.


yea immortal technique is really good, too bad guys like him never get any air play. I would rather listen to 3 of his songs than an entire 50 cent album, it's too bad people either dont know about him or dont care. kinda like talib, i think that if people cant respect an mc like him, we should just shut down the whole hip hop industry and start over. his latest album "the beautiful struggle" and his first "reflection enternal" are certainly top notch

[SK]

mtv.com recently did an article on the best hip hop albums of all time, i didnt really like their list, so heres mine.
1. life after death- notorious big
2. the don killuminati- makaveli
3. the chronic- dr. dre
4. illmatic- nas
5. me against the world- 2pac
6. ready to die- notorious big
7. the eminem show- eminem
8. get rich or die tryin- 50 cent
9. 2001- dr dre
10. doggystyle- snoop dogg
whats your list?

[Mut]

Uhhh... hello? All Eyez on Me by 2Pac? The first double album for rap/hip-hop/r&b genre? The first rap album to go DIAMOND (10x plat)?

That's my #1.

[SK]

all eyez on me was good but i already have pac on there a couple times. plus life after death is better than all eyez on me. make a list mut.

[Kardiva]

get 50 cent off of there, he makes me sick

[kAi]

It's hard between Life after Death and Ready to Die for me, but Biggie is most definately my favourite rapper.

[SK]

yeah biggie made some great cds, both you can listen to front to back. to kardiva, i dont care if you dont like 50 himself but his debut was hot. i personally dont think 50 is the greatist rapper, but he had some great production and had some really good songs. again, itd be fun if you would make your own list, so we can compare i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[Kardiva]

true true, aight, i'll try to put something together. but i'll need some time. and you're right 50 does has some good production and some hot songs. its just hard to judge rappers because there isnt always a correlation between lyrical skills and sales. personally i think that jean grae has one of the sickest albums out there right now, but hot rhymes, great beats and nice flows arent enough to get good sales? doesnt make sense

[SK]

im listening to the b. coming right now by beanie sigel. its pretty good so far.

[Kardiva]

yea i need to check that out, i heard it was gonna be good

[SK]

i decided to do my own mixtape monday feature. here are my picks for this week.
http://img119.echo.cx/img119/2640/2for101845347872632og.jpg
this mixtape is hot, here are the songs to watch out for on it. (aka download now)
The Corner (remix) - Common feat. Scarface, Mos Def
Dear Summer - Jay-Z
The Food - Common feat. Kanye West
Bad Boy 2005 - Blackrob feat. Ness, Chopper, Babs, Aasim
Go - Common feat. Kanye West
(there are also freestyles by Papoose, Common, and Tony Yayo on this mixtape)

and here is my other pick
http://img119.echo.cx/img119/2323/2for101845367386382xp.jpg
Dear Summer - Jay-Z (this song is everywhere right now)
Diamonds - Kanye West
Whole Life - Kanye West feat. Newz
Come Again - Saigon
Brand New - Kanye West
Make Her Feel Good - Teairra Mari feat. Jay-Z
(there are also some jay-z interviews on this mixtape)

[Uchiha Barles]

I don't really listen to much rap, but I thought this was pretty funny.

http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=4366

A friend of a friend actually heard him rhyme before and came away impressed. Even if he's good though...it's still funny.

[Samanosuke]

Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
mtv.com recently did an article on the best hip hop albums of all time, i didnt really like their list, so heres mine.
1. life after death- notorious big
2. the don killuminati- makaveli
3. the chronic- dr. dre
4. illmatic- nas
5. me against the world- 2pac
6. ready to die- notorious big
7. the eminem show- eminem
8. get rich or die tryin- 50 cent
9. 2001- dr dre
10. doggystyle- snoop dogg
whats your list?

horrible list.
eminem show? come on...

[Kardiva]

Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
I don't really listen to much rap, but I thought this was pretty funny.

http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=4366

A friend of a friend actually heard him rhyme before and came away impressed. Even if he's good though...it's still funny.

oh my lord. you cant be serious

and i heard that new beanie, i wasnt too impressed. I like some of the songs off those mixtapes though. Jay z still has some fire left in him

[SK]

dear summer is crazy, i really like common's new shit. hey samanosuke the point isnt to argue about the list the point was to make your own, then we can argue.

[Kardiva]

yea yea i'm really feeling the new common too. i also like that bad boy 2005 song, i dont know why but i like da band. i think ness has some great potential and i like babs flow

[SK]

ness and babs are both good, i didnt like fred and chopper, and the wannabe jamaican guy. ill buy ness' album if he comes out with one.

[Kardiva]

yea i agree with you on that. that show was so interesting to watch too, thats why im attached to them

[SK]

im listenin to common's new album right now, its really really good. you can find it on torrentspy, no im not going to drop the link for you, you guys are big boys now.

[Kardiva]

i'll look into that. speaking of new albums, anyone looking forward to the new canibus album? i think its gonna be crazy

[kAi]

I rathered Slim Shady LP out of Eminem's albums, but Eminem show next.

[SK]

switch in slim shady lp or marshal mathers, i like them all equally. the only one i dont like is encore, the first, i think 6 tracks are good, then it goes downhill.

[Kardiva]

i'm not sure im feeling eminem anymore, or Nas or jay z as much as i used to because they've been around for so long. Nas's first few albums were soo hot but he just doesnt sound like that anymore. same with eminem. they're still at the top of the game though, but i'm feeling other rappers so much more than them right now. kweli, canibus, immortal technique, jedi mind tricks...

[Strider]

Are you kidding me? Nas isn't hot anymore? God's Son isa great damn album! And, while I am the largest Eminem fan .. I was sorely disappointed with Encore. Surely, it has it's moments and lines, but it was nothing to compare with his previous albums (Slim Shady & Marshall Mathers topping the list). Jay-Z .. 'eh, I'm from New York. Born bred, and I don't even feel him as much as most. He's commercial. Very much so.

You've got taste, though. Immortal Technique .. a good friend out in Diego just put me on him, and I'm feelin' him. Sadly, it's hard to download too much things on government terminals .. so torrents are always not an option for me. Anyone know any other means of downloading? And, I ask because again .. it is not like I can run a search on these machines.


// Strider. Out.

[Kardiva]

haha, well i meant that in the softest possible way. nas was and still is my favorite rapper but i just wasnt a fan of god son or the new one. even if the lyrics were hot, his new beats just dont move me as much. sorry.

about immortal technique i could send them to you over aim or something. anyone who wants to listen to technique gets an A in my book. you could also use ares or limewire to dl music

[Strider]

Alright, I'm with you on Street's Disciple (I think that was Nas' latest). I was not moved by it as much as Nas' God's Son .. or Jay-Z's Blueprint (classic). As for Immortal Technique, if you could e-mail me them to me or AIM 'em over, that'd be nice of you. PM me, for the info.

After I posted before, it brought me to the first page (I didn't read anything when I initially posted here) .. and I saw people discussing their favorite songs. My personal favorite track, that I can never get tired of hearing is .. Notorious B.I.G. - Notorious Thugz feat. Bone Thugz 'N Harmony. Damn song gives me chills to this day, when I hear it. Also, Jadakiss - We Gonna Make It, mainly for that sickeningly disgusting beat! DAMN!


// Strider. Out.


EDIT: I was NOT moved by Nas' latest as much as God's Son. Sheesh, big mistake there.

[Turkish-S]

Notorious B.I.G. - Notorious Thugz feat. Bone Thugz 'N Harmony
yeah this one is very good.

[SK]

hmm i thought street disciple first disk was pretty damn good. but none of nas's albums have compared to illmatic, which i still listen to. if you want immortal technique, i suggest buying his album if you can find it (maybe amazon?) i havent had a chance to buy revolution part 1 yet but you can download his songs using limewire. ive downloaded about 30, still havent found bin laden pt 2 though. on the jay-z thing, i dont go for this jay-z is commercial shit, i think its just jealousy. jay-z has had some great albums, blueprint, blueprint 2, and the black album were all great in my mind. i hate the way when a rapper gets out of the hood and gets signed people call him commercial.

[Dick Starbuck]

jeru da damaja - rass kass
the roots - mobb deep
mosdef - jedi mind tricks
talib kweli - jurrasic 5
nas - eric b & rakim
gangstar - pete rock & cl smooth
killarmy - binary star
masta ace - afura
wutang (before they became fake) - big l
high and mighty/ smutpeddlers - ooptroop
dead prez - alkaholiks
common - paroah monch
dilated people - saian supa crew

[SK]

nice list, couple i dont listen to, like jurrasic 5 and the roots, dont like their sound at all.

[darkshadow]

bone thugs flow like no1 else, im into urban/dancehall en raggeaton mostly ( try the mario- let me love you raggaeton remix, its awesome)

[Strider]

Nice list, Dick.

Don't care too much for Jurassic 5, like Sharingan Kakashi .. but, that's probably all he and I can agree on if he thinks the Blueriprint 2 was a great album. (Do not get uptight or upset, it is said in a sarcastically jabbing manner.)

But, really .. C'mon, SK .. The Blueprint 2!? The first one, and the Black Album, surely. Not to mention Reasonable Doubt. All favorites in my book. But, the Blueprint 2!? .. You must have had nothing else to listen to over that summer and allowed it to grow on you. The second version of the Blueprint 2 that he put out (because he knew the first version was gar-bage!) was much better.

And, I like Reggae. But, this Reggaeton stuff .. Sometimes catchy, but highly annoying with the frustratingly repetitive beat. Every song, same beat and background.

[Kardiva]

i think thats a pretty good list too, half of them i dont listen too though. i've never been a big jay z fan, but i dont want to start any argument over him right now. About nas though, i really like illmatic, it was written, and the i am and the stillmatic albums. I think the roots are real hot though and i like masta ace but i wasnt really feeling his last album. almost bought it too, but i chose jean grae instead (what a great choice too).

anybody watching this subtle busta rhymes come back? he has a hot song called i'll hurt you, real nice flow on it.

[SK]

hmm, ive never thought about that strider, youre right i did buy it over that summer couple years ago. lol i will have to wait a while since ive last heard it then listen to it again and see. disk 1 was very commerical, but disk 2 was great i thought.
ive been expecting the busta rhymes comeback for a while, since he signed with aftermath a couple years ago. about illmatic, i think it would be the greatist album ever...if it wasnt only 9 songs long. and i think nas' flow and lyrics are great, but the production is not perfect in my mind.
you know who i think is really overrated, rakim. got in an arguement with this kid natti the other day over that, i said 2pac was the greatist rapper ever, and he says rakim. ive listened to rakim's so called best album, paid in full, plenty of times but i dont think its the best shit ive ever heard.
EDIT: btw dark change your sig before the mods get pissed.

[Mut]

Jay-Z is not a good rapper. Does sell a lot of records? Yes. But is a good rapper? No.

He makes money cuz he always has party songs and that's what mainstream rap is all about nowadays.

[SK]

what a generalization that was mut. you should actually try listening to jay-z, are the singles dumb party songs most of the time? yes. is that what the whole album is about? hell no.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
what a generalization that was mut. you should actually try listening to jay-z, are the singles dumb party songs most of the time? yes. is that what the whole album is about? hell no.
I have 5 of his albums. You should actually try not assuming things.

It's not that I don't like Jay-Z, I like some of his songs. But some of his lyrics are bombared with unmatching syllables in the bars causing him to say one line with 7 words in it and then rap for 10 seconds spitting out a paragraph to make it rhyme.

EDIT:
6 since I also have Hard Knock Life back at home.

[SK]

hmm 6 albums of someone you think isnt a good rapper. strange. the reason he might not have perfect structure is because he doesnt write, he freestyles.

[Kardiva]

im not sure i'm a huge fan of rakim either, but i'll admit that i havent really heard a lot from him. and about jay z, it's hard to say that he isnt a good rapper because he does make some hot records. however, the only way i'd ever have 6 of his albums is they were all burned. you can correct me on this, but i would say that in his albums the songs that aren't party songs, more often than not have weaker beats. so that could lead to people saying the only good songs he makes are party songs.

[SK]

naaaaah, jay-z always has ill beats by just blaze.

[GhostKaGe]

not much of a jay-z fan but i did find Jay-Z And Linkin Park - Collision Course wasn't too painful

[darkshadow]

jay-z sucks, some of his beat ARE great though like dust of ya shoulders

this is 1 of my many many playlists:
playlist (http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/darkshadow/playlist.jpg)

[Mut]

Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
hmm 6 albums of someone you think isnt a good rapper. strange. the reason he might not have perfect structure is because he doesnt write, he freestyles.
You still don't get it. I have 6 of his albums; only 1 bought. Out of the 6 albums, I only consider no more than 15 of the songs to be good. And by good, I mean above mediocre. Nothing amazing.

There is a distinct difference between someone who isn't good at rapping and someone who can't make good music. Does Jay-Z make good music that I can enjoy? Yes. But just because he makes good music that doesn't mean he is a good rapper. His songs have good beats, which is what people hear first and it's what attracts people to certain songs. But the way he raps in some of his songs is terrible, and just to clarify, I'm not talking about his lyrics. And no, he doesn't record his freestyles and release them as tracks on his albums. That's retarded and it's a lie.

[SK]

heres the playlist i listen to the most, little bit of everything. i usually listen to the last 2 tracks on repeat.
playlist (http://img158.echo.cx/img158/8454/playlist7se.jpg)
EDIT: and youre missing my point. i dont get how you can say a rapper is not good, but then say he makes good music, seems contradicting imo. if you are saying you listen to the beats more than anything i dont understand this either, since you could just get the mixtape with only instrumentals, or just download instrumentals. i see you must not know much about hip hop to not understand what i meant by the freestyle comment. rappers like jay-z and Biggie dont write down their lyrics. they listen to the beat, then they go into the booth and freestyle to it. just because its broken into 16 bars doesnt mean it isnt a freestyle.

[Mut]

quote:
Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
EDIT: and youre missing my point. i dont get how you can say a rapper is not good, but then say he makes good music, seems contradicting imo.
It's not a contradiction. You're just not understanding what not being able to rap well means and how it doesn't necessarily means that shitty rappers can't make good music. When I say "rapping well" I mean being able to do the act of rapping (rhyming) fluently and without fucking up on the speed which one raps. Jay-Z says one line (8-9 words) in 3 seconds, then he tries to fit 12-14 words in the same time. It sounds retarded. I'm not saying that he does this all the time, otherwise I would just say he sucks, period. But that's not the case.



quote:
if you are saying you listen to the beats more than anything i dont understand this either, since you could just get the mixtape with only instrumentals, or just download instrumentals.
Did I say that he is a bad lyricist? No. He can write average to good lyrics, but that doesn't mean he can rap the lyrics like Nas and some others can.



quote:
i see you must not know much about hip hop to not understand what i meant by the freestyle comment. rappers like jay-z and Biggie dont write down their lyrics. they listen to the beat, then they go into the booth and freestyle to it. just because its broken into 16 bars doesnt mean it isnt a freestyle.
I'm only going to say this one last time, stop assuming stupid shit. If anything, chances are I probably have listened to more rap and hiphop, and know more about it than you considering I'm 4 years older than you are. Thus giving me a longer time to experience it. Anyway, I know what you mean by freestyling over the beats, but not writing down what you wrote is stupid. You don't think they didn't wrote down rhymes prior to their battles back in the days when they were trying to make it big by freestyling? There is no way anyone can memorize all the lyrics to one song they record if they are doing it off freestyling. People fuck up, often, when they freestyle. Biggie and Jay-Z are not exempt from this.

[SK]

true, i am taking it from biggie and jay's mouths as true, and the producers. the way i understand it, they listen to the beat, think, and freestyle to it, which is recorded. they probably need more than 1 take of course to perfect it to sound like a real song broken into 16 bars with a hook and not just 52 bars. i trully cant say this is fact, since i wasnt actually there to watch them with my own eyes.

[Kardiva]

Gatman and robin.....oh nooo. are you serious?? i cant believe they made that song, he's running out of ideas for songs. his album made me sick, with songs like "get in my car" and "just a little bit" what is he thinking?

and i've also heard that jay z freestyles and never writes anything down. i dont know if he does or not, but it clearly works well enough for him to be still rapping like that. it seems very unlikely though that he doesnt write anything down, with so many songs, he has to confuse himself if he makes everything up off the top. it's hard to say that he's not better than the average rapper though, even if you dont like him. i just wish he was still making songs like "cant knock the hustle" that was really tight.

i'm also feeling that new q-unique cd, you guys should check that. he has some serious skills

[SK]

gatman and robin is a good song, love the beat and em's flow on that one. just a little bit, the beat is crazy...
btw i started a Hip Hop group on GW Community so come and join if youre a hip hop fan.
Urban (http://community.gotwoot.net/groups.php?id=40&page=view)

[Strider]

A shame I missed the Mut & SK debate / argument. Would have enjoyed tossing my short change into the midst of that one. I won't bother breathing life into it, though.

Gatman & Robbin'. The beat is humorous, as it follows that classic television show, which cannot be hated on. Classic. And, Em's flow alone on it is sickeningly ridiculous. Can't knock Eminem .. too much. Just a shame his rhymes on everyone's guest tracks outshined his tracks on Encore. Ah well.

Last thing, just because the comment alone made me literally laugh out loud ..

SK: You're never allowed to like anything more than Mut because he's four years older than you. He's liked it first, since you weren't born yet, making his affinity towards it that much more greater than yours.

.. Right.


// Strider. Out.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Strider
SK: You're never allowed to like anything more than Mut because he's four years older than you. He's liked it first, since you weren't born yet, making his affinity towards it that much more greater than yours.
Shut up, smartass. That's not even what I meant so don't bring up a dead issue.

You're retarded. Kill yourself.

[Strider]

My comment was the last addition to my post, and the only thing I was addressing in regards to your dead issue. You request the elimination of assumptions, only to follow up with one of your own with a statement that I allegedly incorrectly perceived. Comedy. But, what do I know? I've only got 200 posts.

Moving right along. Shall we?

Joe Budden - Gangsta Party

First track of his I've heard in a long time, and I am sorely disappointed. I do not know how large of a fan following the guy's had / has, but I was thoroughly liking his first album. If this single, which I hope isn't an attempt at a club banger, is an indication of what's to come .. I'm not looking forward to it. Even though, that isn't fair as most singles are simply done to be played on the radio and get them air time. Still .. it isn't an excuse to make a deplorable song.


// Strider. Out.

[Kardiva]

im not to sure about that joe budden song, i was never really feeling him much. oh i'll try to send those technique songs strider, once i get some time. its such a large file

[Strider]

Pft, don't feel for a second like you have to rush or drop anything to get that time to send those songs over to me. You're the one doing me the favor. Whenever you get to it, it'll be appreciated.

But, I liked his first album. His flow was different, and a lot of his rhymes were fairly deep with a lot more context between the lines. Give "Joe Budden - 10 Mins" a download, if you can. I think that's one of his better tracks. If you do give it a chance and listen to it, be sure to let me know what you think.


// Strider. Out.

[Kardiva]

i liked the song, thought it was pretty good. much better than some of the other stuff he's put out.

[NM]

Anyone get the new Memphis Bleek cd, 534? Its got some great songs on it. Track 4 (titled Like That) is probably my favorite. Its got a great beat to it.

[Strider]

I was liking "Infatuated." I believe it's the track right after the song you like, NarutoMaster.

I have not given the entire album a listen, and actually skipped over the first couple to listen to "Dear Summer." I wanted to see what the hype was all about, and let it play up until about Track 06 or Track 07. I'll most likely post my full thoughts on it tomorrow, once I've given it a thorough listen.

Are there even any big albums coming up in the near future, that people are waiting on? It's hard to keep up down here, even though I do have the internet at the tip of my fingers as a source of information, but I just haven't had that chance to see a list of future releases to see if there are any crazy, highly anticipated ones.

I'd like to see a future Eightball & MJG CD soon. Living Legends was the shit. I do not even care too much for down south music, but their flow and beats (production from P. Diddy) was tight. I think those who don't find themselves listening to too much southern music will find themselves bumping the CD.


// Strider. Out.

[SK]

ill probably download the memphis bleek cd, if its real good ill buy it because he needs some success. i love dear summer, jay-z tells game how it is in a couple lines, cant wait for a response from game. jay-z will kill him...btw check out kanye's new song with a guy named newz, its pretty good.

[Kardiva]

i'm checking it out as we speak. but i dont think im going to buy that memphis bleak album, he never has impressed me much.

jay z vs game = no contest. i'm bored even thinking about it. jay shouldn't even have wasted his breath

[SK]

cool i downloaded memphis bleek's album in only 19 minutes, i think its pretty damn good.

[mrla119]

if you guyz like tupac you should try listening to Black Haze. He sounds a lot like him especially in the song ima die a hustler. listen to it. Black Haze - I'ma die a hustler. And if ur into like hardcore gangster white boi rap listen to Brother Lynch Hung

[Mut]

Sorry but Black Haze and Brother Lynch Hung both suck hardcore. Just terrible music.

[Kardiva]

never heard of either, so i cant comment. other than that i dont think anyone can be tupac again. he'll prob end up like that guy who sounded like biggie. just a one hit wonder. i forget that guys name though

i listened to that kanye song though. wasnt liking it at first but the more i hear it the better it sounds. but that guy newz cant rap for shit

[SK]

yeah i dont like that guy much either, but kanye's rapping is pretty good, especially for a producer.
btw i like 2pac, but that doesnt mean i want to hear a pac wannabe, there was only 1 pac.

[Astronopolis]

Dude, Hip Hop is so last week, if you want some real sounds that'll expand your mind, try Polka

[darkshadow]

thats not funny...............not even if it aint supposed to be funny..................

[Kardiva]

boo that man. if you've got nothing intelligent or relavent to say, dont say anything. esp not in a hip-hop discussion, do you want to die?

not that i would ever do such a thing...

[SK]

anyway im listening to beanie sigel and memphis bleeks' albums a lot. i think its strange that they released them around the same time, theyre kind of competing against each other. not like i bought either anyway.

EDIT: some interesting news for the hip hoppers here

G-Unit to sign M.O.P and Mobb Deep???
Wednesday - May 25, 2005
Verbal Walker

50 Cent may be the most hated man in hip-hop amongst other rhymespitters but he obviously must be doing something right. Not only has he sold millions of records, but now the rapper is courting two of the most highly touted groups in hip-hop- Mobb Deep and M.O.P.

At first this just seemed like another round of rumors that had absolutely no merit but now 50 has told MTV that he is very close to signing both groups.

"I'm ready to expand and do other things," he explained. "Creatively, there are certain artists out there I respect. I've been listening to their music for a long time. I wanna work with them. I want to be able to put my full effort into it, but I can't work for it unless it's in both of our best interests, and that's with them being signed to G-Unit as a record company. It'll be serious. We've got a chance to go do some exciting things."

Many of you may think that 50 must be full of it but surprisingly Havoc of Mobb Deep seconds the notion&

"We've been talking to 50 for a minute, maybe a month," he said. "Initially we were gonna sign to Interscope. After a while we saw it best [to sign] with 50 because of the style of music [we do]. We sat down with 50 and he let us know what he could do for us. We're satisfied with the move. I don't know how other people are gonna feel about the move. It's probably gonna be a lot of hate in people's blood, but we don't give a f---. We're gonna continue making our music. I feel we have a bigger platform. I can't wait. The adrenaline is pumping. I just wanna get it started."

Laze E. Laze, who assists in guiding M.O.P.s career decisions, confirmed that the group is indeed talking to 50 but hasnt elaborated beyond that.

[Kardiva]

now thats something interesting. i think MOP will fit in with 50 before mobb deep does. i think both groups just want to get some more play and find another creative outlet. i think thats kinda what busta did, when things really werent going his way he went over to dre.

[SK]

interscope has a monopoly on the game right now big time. olivia has her album coming out next, and she is actually good, unlike ashanti.

[Strider]

Originally posted by: Kardiva
never heard of either, so i cant comment. other than that i dont think anyone can be tupac again. he'll prob end up like that guy who sounded like biggie. just a one hit wonder. i forget that guys name though

i listened to that kanye song though. wasnt liking it at first but the more i hear it the better it sounds. but that guy newz cant rap for shit

Guerilla Black, I believe that guy's name was. He seriously did sound like Biggie. I put the radio one morning and believed there had been a B.I.G. track I never heard of. .. It didn't take long before I recalled that gimp was out. I never listened to his flow, so I do not know how bad he is. Just the sound of his flow turned me off.

G-Unit and MOP? Nice. Granted, 50's got tons of haters .. and after his album, he doesn't have much right to think he's the king of anything .. that would be nice fit for the both of 'em. Hopefully all those things fall through for those groups. I just keep thinking of the Ante Up (Remix) without Remy Martin (Ugh!) and the other dude I can't recall (not Busta .. he stays), and Lloyd Banks and The Game in their place. Hot Dylan Fire!

[SK]

the massacre is starting to grow on me, granted there are some seriously wack tracks on it, but there are also some real good songs.

[SK]

cassidy is wanted for murdering a 22 yr old man in philadelphia.
what a dumbass.

[Dick Starbuck]

wtf mob deep and mop gonna sign up with 50 ah man that sucks big time i hope that there music isn't gonna change

[SK]

has anyone heard missy's new cd yet? you can find the torrent on torrentspy if you want to download it.

[X-plicit]

I hate Cassidy and his song "B-boy Stance" because I'm a B-boy and he seriously gives the wrong message to all the kids out there who doesn't know what B-boying is. He mixes b-boys with guns, now isn't that just wrong. B-boys aren't all "gangster" most of them aren't at all. Also, who needs a gun when you can just battle?

[SK]

what are you talking about where does he mix b-boy with guns? throughout the whole video he is showing breakdancers, i didnt think it seemed very gangsta at all.

[Enderz]

i like old school listening to N-W-A, cash money, ghost face

[X-plicit]

Originally posted by: SK
what are you talking about where does he mix b-boy with guns? throughout the whole video he is showing breakdancers, i didnt think it seemed very gangsta at all.I guess you miss the part where he flashes his gun while doing the c-walk which is not bboying and says "Chillin in the club in my bboy stance, my hoody on and my gun in my pants." That's the chorus btw, so I don't know how you missed it.

[SK]

true. but i dont think he was really trying to mix breakdancers with gangsters.
edit: btw i missed it because ive only heard the edited version, im not a cassidy fan.

[X-plicit]

Originally posted by: SK
true. but i dont think he was really trying to mix breakdancers with gangsters.
edit: btw i missed it because ive only heard the edited version, im not a cassidy fan.
Oh I see, I'm not a Cassidy fan either. I just heard the song on a radio then watched the video online and then hated it.

[SK]

im listening to common's BE the most right now. man this is one of the best albums ive heard in a while. every track is great, its one of those you can just put on and let play to the end. im even going to buy it since common hasnt had much commercial success and he is a LEGEND in my mind.

edit: i found this awesome free online radio station. theyve been playing everything since ive been listening except crap, jedi mind tricks, big l, stat quo, mos def, missy etc.
Smoothbeats.com

[Strider]

Late as hell, but no reason for this topic to die, since Hip-Hop never will. Although, it does seem to be in a stint, as of late ..

Common's Be is tight. I love the track with him and Kanye, who's album dropped or is going to, which I cannot wait for, "The Food." But, you're right SK. It's a great album. I purchased as well. Always got to support the true artists, which he's never failed to be.

I've actually been listening to a few tracks off of Cassidy's album. He's returned to those initial, underground roots when he was freestyle flowin' and battle rappin', which is what got me caught on his hype a bit. His initial album was a sore disappointment from that, but this one is much better. "6 Minutes," with Wayne and Fabolous is ridiculous. The beat made me throw up, it's so sick. Download the album. Give it a listen.

[Dick Starbuck]

Album of common is 2 freaking cool i loved the intro of the album, oyeah about that cassidy song it isn't very annoying just don't listen to the lines en jou will be fine ( hey that rhymes i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif)

ps: i was on vacantion that's why iam posting now

[Strider]

Funnily enough, Dick .. It's Cassidy's song, and I cannot stand him on it.

The beat is insane, and I dislike Wayne a lot; his verse is decent. Fabolous is ridiculous. But, Christ .. Cassidy annoys the hell out of me on it. He ends every bar for about the first sixteen or so with "y'all" which hit a reminiscent nerve of Juvenile's first single way back in the day, as well as Cassidy's song for the ladies, where he ended every line with a grunt and "ma," respectively.

Bloody flippin' annoying.

Great beat. Good two verses. Knix Cassidy .. off his own song.

On another note, I've found myself listening to God's Son as of late. Nas' album for those who may have been wondering whose that was. Between Nas and Common, I've been peachy.

[Dick Starbuck]

iam not sure wich song you man but i mean bboystance :S, i don't know other songs of cassidy and i don't wanna know i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[SK]

Right now I'm really liking Saigon, he is supposed to have an album dropping in September. He is very versatile and can rap about a ton of different issues. He is a nice freestyler too, he was in Boston and was freestyling on one of the hip hop stations here, he is beefing with Cassidy right now and he said something like "asking me if I'm better than Cassidy is like asking Jadakiss if he's better than Master P"

I downloaded Cassidy's album and I was very surprised, it was pretty good, especially the 1st track where he battles and disses himself. He has another track about the black power movement, I really like it because toward the end of the song he has a really good 2Pac speech, it's just a powerful song. I'd give the album I'm a Hustla a listen if you haven't already.

Kanye has leaked a few songs, and the full album is supposed to leak soon. We Major, Kanye with Nas, the beat is crazy. There is the 'Dear Mama' song, Hey Mama also with a very different beat from the norm. Touch the Sky is another good one.

~1~

[Strider]

Late Registration dropped a while ago.

Where the Hip Hop heads at with their reviews?

Anyone even bother with Yayo? (insert stifling laughter)

[masamuneehs]

I have two words for anyone here interested in the latest nastiest motherfucking rapper out there:

YOUNG JEEZY

This guy dropped a hit with Boyz n' the Hood (not the old group) called "Dem' Boys" and ON THE SAME DAY switched over to a different record label and dropped his own solo album, thats right, a whole album, and took some of Boyz n' the Hood's best talent over to his new label with him. Consequently he had the #1 and #2 highest selling Rap records at the same time, with different labels. His album features alot of well-known rappers. Deff worth checking on.

[Dick Starbuck]

how is his style is hey like 50 or is he underground i live in holland so everything is slower, so keep the info comingi/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif thnx

[masamuneehs]

Originally posted by: Dick Starbuck
how is his style is hey like 50 or is he underground i live in holland so everything is slower, so keep the info coming thnx

Young Jeezy is definetley in the hard thug G-Unit kind of vein. His songs are not the best for dancing to but have some excellent lyrics and the flow is sweet as cinnamon.

His main deal is that he is just another n*** hustling and shooting to make a living. His biggest statement is that he has actually done all the things he raps about and constantly disses the mainstream rappers for being posers, rapping about shit they've never done and don't have the balls to do, degrading rap by making it all about appearances and telling fake stories.

Its actually quite refreshing to have someone smash the outlandish rappers and obvious posers that have infilitrated the biz over the past couple years.

[SK]

Man. I just got Late Registration yesterday. Album is crazy, and I think it's easily a Hip Hop classic. The beats are sick and the sound is totally different from most shit out right now. Track for track it's straight fire, the first song featuring the lead singer from Maroon 5 is surprisingly one of my favorite songs on the CD. The only skipables are the interludes. 5/5 easily.

Young Jeezy.....I'm actually loving his album, the production is top notch. I had actually heard of him before he blew, when I had no idea who he was, I know some people in the ATL that are on their grind, my cousin's baby's daddy is in BMF. Basically all the shit he is rapping about is the truth, straight up. He is a BMF member and also a Crip, already a millionaire from crack and other ventures before even rapping. He isn't glorifying what he did, just telling the story of what goes down in the hood everyday, which I like.

OK, for the people not living in the city and their best source of Hip Hop is MTV heres who not to sleep on.
SAIGON - Drops this month or next month, one of the most anticipated albums this year, and its his debut. He's done 8 years for shooting 3 people, so no wanksta shit from this dude. He is a what I call a gangsta-consicous rapper, 50 mixed with a little Common. Check out some of his mixtapes or download the tracks Hip Hop, or Color Purple (which actually brought the Bloodz and Crips together for a peace treaty in NY)
PAPOOSE - I have every mixtape, he is supposed to drop in the fall but I'm not sure how valid this is. Pick up some of his mixtapes, or download Return of the Living Dead, In the Bushes, Charades, or Chess.
LITTLE BROTHER - Drops this month, The Minstrel Show, which is supposed to be a Hip Hop classic. Received a 4.5 mics from the Source (changed to a 4 because of BS) and an XL from XXL (XXL said they coulden't give them a classic score when they will already be giving one to Kanye) The album is supposed to be BETTER than BE.

in case you didn't know....
Nas drops Nasdaq Dow Jones in October.
Dre drops Detox in November, real release date, not rumor.

~1~

[Mr_BonBon]

That Kanye is a lil overrated IMO. It's a real solid release.Great production? Yes. One of the best of all time? Too early to say.
The production is pretty complex and "polished" but for the most part.. And one thing that's starting to annoy me about Kanye as an MC, is that his vocabulary is weak. I don't expect him to be a complex lyricist but I noticed several times on the album that he changed the pronunciation of words to make a rhyme. It sounds very stupid.
I prefer common's "Be" album over the new Kanye.

[chambers]

yeah i think i also prefer Be to kanyes album, i was pretty underwhelmed when i frist heard it. some songs for me are instant skips, while others i just play over and over.

SK where can you download mix tapes? maybe you cousl send me a msg reccomending some stuff to dl?

[SK]

Kanye actually has a great vocabulary of the calibur of Nas. That's called slant rhyme Mr., and it's actually hard to do in a rap, thats one of the reasons Em is so respected, he can make anything rhyme.

If you want mixtapes I recommend just buying them from your local bootlegger since you can get them for $3 if you bring a broad. Or go to mixunit.com, mixtapeusa.com, which I use for track lists, or raphustle.com for all kinds of Hip Hop media. (Don't bother downloading Hip Hop Honeys, they don't show anything)
heres a list

Papoose - You can find every mixtape he has released on the net, the most recent and imo best being A Bootlegger's Nightmare.
Saigon - Just try to find the Best of Saigon (Kay Slay)
Dre - Find Pretox now before Detox drops if you haven't already! (unreleased Dre and Snoop verses from the chronic days)
B.I.G - Rap Phenomenon Pt. 1
2Pac - Rap Phenomenon Pt. 2
Jay Z - The We Gets Busy series features everything new from the ROC, most recent being 3.
Common - G.O.O.D Music Mixtape
50 & G-Unit - G-Unit Radio series or anything from Whoo Kid for Shady/Aftermath
Eminem - Invasion series, Armageddon, Shade 45 series, or recently the Anger Management 3 Official Mixtape
Nas - Nas vs. 50 Cent, supposed to be a mixtape before the album drops but haven't seen it.

Best way to get what's hot on the street is by picking up the regular releases from the best DJs, Kay Slay, Clue, Whoo Kid, Lenny, Cutmaster C, Green Lantern etc.

~1~

[wowza161]

yeah kanye's music is definitely on and off. it's like one day he's a lyrical genius and the next day he loses it. i like his music, but his public image isn't that great. he keeps whining about something or another. most recently, it was about losing the best dressed contest that diddy held before the vmas.
in any case, anybody hear that new mixtape, ghost unit, by black wall street? that shit is sick. but then again im a g-unit hater, so i guess my opinion is a little biased.

[SK]

His public image must not be too bad, he sold 1.7 million in presales and over 800,000 units first week of release. America actually likes cocky, honest guys like Kanye, look at Muhammad Ali the self proclaimed Greatest or Charles Barkely. Oh, and Kanye was dressed better than Snoop...

I haven't heard anything new from Game or his dickriders, until they're off G-Unit's nuts I'm not interested in giving them a listen.

~1~

[Mr_BonBon]

G-Unit's name shouldn't even be mentioned in this thread.
I agree with wowza161 Kanye is on and off sometimes.
I gotta give it to Kanye though, he knows all about publicity stunts.

[Dick Starbuck]

i haven't heard the new kanye cd but people are saying it's very good uhmmm, i liked be from common very cool only 1 song i would skip, kanye is a good produceren but i don't like him as a rapper. i have a couple of songs from little brother cool song very chill 9th wonder is a good produceren, he made a remix album of god son called god's stepson cool album but i liked the originol better i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif and those anybody konws jean grae she has a couple of dope songs try an dload it

if you wanna hear a classic album listen to nas illmatic damn that cd is to dope, or try mobb deep- the infamous. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[chambers]

hey SK thanks a lot for those sites, i dont live in the US so i thought they may be beyond my reach ^^ ty very much

[SK]

No problem, heres some of the hot tracks blazing the streets right now, try to download. (I'm a Nas fan)

Death Anniversary - Nas
Mother Nature - Papoose
Katrina Clap (Bush diss) - Mos Def
Preacher - Saigon
Don't Body Yaself (remix) - Nas ft. Game
Crack Music (remix with Game verse) - Kanye West ft. Game
Mic Check (remix) - Juelz Santana ft. Young Jeezy
Lovin' It - Little Brother

~1~

[Strider]

Originally posted by: SK

I haven't heard anything new from Game or his dickriders, until they're off G-Unit's nuts I'm not interested in giving them a listen.

~1~

G-Unit isn't saying anything worth listening to. 50 Cent's about to get Ja Rule'd out the game, too.

"The niggas only feel your shit just a lil' bit .. not a lot .."

I'm out here in Italy, so I have not had the chance to pick up any CDs or download anything, so I still have not gotten a hold of Kanye's album. I heard just a few tracks, and I was liking what I got to listen to. It's being backed by a lot of hype, but his productions normally on point, and his lyrical content is up there.

Street anthem right now is Sheek Louch's jumpoff -- "Kiss Your Ass Goodbye," with Sheek Louch, Jadakiss, Beanie Sigel, The Game and Fabolous. Jadakiss and Beanie on the same track! Hot Dylan Fiyah.

Also, Kanye w/ Nas - "We Major."

Can't leave out the human crack in the flesh, Juelz Santana with "There It Go."

EDIT: Corrected the spelling in Sheek's song title.

[masamuneehs]

Yo Strider!

Italia? Dove sta a Italia? Io parlo la lingua e voglio andarci nell' semestre dopo questo. Studio le scienze politiche e la literatura italiana!

And to stay on rap: I could care less about G-Unit right now. I'm really anticipating Dre's new joint though, and getting by on the new Kanye (its not bad just not as good as College Dropout IMO) Young Jeezy, and Akon.

[Hakeem_21]

Sk: Thanks for the tips specialy the Nas song i love Nas most of all artist along with 2pac.

I found a new fav rapper that reminds me of the skills of 2pac and Nas. I knew of him before only by name but i didnt know he was this good.

I'm talking about Immortal Technique,he kills every rapper except Nas on lyrics,music etc.

I love his
The Point of No Return
The Poverty of Philosophy
Dancing with the devil
You never know

His revouliony vol 1 and 2 albums is one of the best ever!

[SK]

Yea Immortal is good, check out his song Bin Laden.

Stider that's the Kiss Your Ass Goodbye remix by the way, for people looking for it, and all the tracks he mentioned are on the We Gets Busy Pt. 3 mixtape.

~1~

EDIT: Breaking news, Pac's shooting in 1994 is being reopened. Here's the full story.
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=4825

[wowza161]

Originally posted by: SK
EDIT: Breaking news, Pac's shooting in 1994 is being reopened. Here's the full story.
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=4825

didn't they reopen big's case recently? and then it got shut down just a week later? pac's case is probably gonna get shut down pretty soon too, im sorry to say.
and yeah, nas is pretty hard for anyone to hate. i bet right now 50 is havin doubts about having ever dissed him o_0

edit: ah nm, big's case is still going on. im a dumbass.

[Strider]

Good looks on the correction, Sharingan.

Also, give Sheek's "Clickety Clank" a download. Going hard at the G-Unit Camp.

[Hakeem_21]

SK: I heard Bin laden last night its very good as most his songs


haha what a joke 50 dissing nas,doesnt he want to be crushedi/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[wowza161]

Originally posted by: Strider
Also, give Sheek's "Clickety Clank" a download. Going hard at the G-Unit Camp.

i'd rather hear the diss by jadakiss, Checkmate. Sheek just isn't a very good lyricist. his flow is pretty good though. i think people just look down on sheek because he's the weakest in the camp, but the truth is that d-block is pretty strong anyways.

oh yeah, and game is slowly turning into a comedian. listen to his 300 bars and running, ghost unit intro, and the g-unot remix of just a lil bit.

"scott scorch!"
that shit cracks me up.

[Hakeem_21]

According undergroundhiphop.com Immortal Tehcnique will do a song with Nas that will appear in Nas upcoming album.

I hope its true cause that would be awesome


Sk: Bin Laden is hot like lava i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

One of the best Immortal!

[SK]

You all need to get The Minstrel Show!!!!! 5/5
Seriously BUY this album, real Hip Hop groups like Little Brother need support. You can't be dissapointed by this album, it is easily a Hip Hop classic. The whole album is very conscious, talking about what's wrong with Hip Hop which is basically what's wrong in our communities right now. The production is great using soul samples but not speeded up like Kanye's. The lyrics are very straightforward, which I think is great. One line is simply, "I love Hip Hop, I just hate the people in it." The album is sure to attract a lot of controversary, and the group is definately taking the risk of being blackballed with this release. Great, refreshing album.

~1~

[Hakeem_21]

Nice i like rappers who have something so say.

Like Immortal said in Industrial Revolution

" So if your message ain''''t sh*t, f*ck the records you sold
''''Cuz if you go platinum, it''''s got nothing to do with luck
It just means that a million people are stupid as f*ck! \"

[chambers]

hey SK i downloaded a few albums from that site, the saigon ones have really impressed me, how on earth doesnt this guy sell millions? i got all of papooses tapes and im not really that impressed with him, same goes for hell rell who i think maybe a bit to gangsta for me, tho his skits are really really funny.

[Hakeem_21]

Which guy? and which site?

[SK]

Probably talking about raphustle.com. Yeah, Papoose isn't for everyone, it's a very New York gritty style, basically all punchlines-battle/freestyling rapping broken into song format. However I think the kid definately has potential, check out his sons Chess, Cherades or In the Bushes ft. Ghostface of the WuTang Clan. Got to remember this is just mixtape stuff, I'm sure when Papoose is given original beats and actually writes (most songs he is actually freestyling) that he will be able to put together a great release.
Has anyone given Little Brother's album The Minstrel Show a listen yet, this is by far one of the greatest cds of the year, you can find it on torrentspy.com
If you're looking for some new music, I suggest getting the new We Gets Busy 3 mixtape and the new Fidel Cashflow mixtape.

[chambers]

imn listening to we gets busy right now, its OK so far, nothing jumps out at me.
i listened to the little brother album in the background while doing somthing else, only the very last song stood out, which i have listened to again and its brilliant. ill give it more time later, but not right now.

[DO]

Originally posted by: Hakeem_21
Nice i like rappers who have something so say.

Like Immortal said in Industrial Revolution

" So if your message ain''''t sh*t, f*ck the records you sold
''''Cuz if you go platinum, it''''s got nothing to do with luck
It just means that a million people are stupid as f*ck! \"


Immortal Technique is one of the best rappers out. If you like him you might like Mr. Lif, Cannibal Ox, Binary Star, RJD2.

[SK]

Jedi Mind Tricks is pretty good too, so is Pharcyde.

So, did anyone watch Hip Hop Honors on VH1? It was a really good show from what I seen, nice to see the ol school cats performing and being recognized.

~1~

[SK]

I'm not sure if anyone here listens to Rass Kass, but you guys should definately check him out. Here are lyrics for his song, Nature of the Threat.
WARNING: IF YOU ARE WHITE YOU MAY BE OFFENDED.

Let freedom ring with a buckshot, but not just yet
First we need to truly understand the nature of the threat
And a pale man walks in the threshold of darkness
Roughly 20,000 years ago the first humans evolved
with the phenotypical trait, genetic recessive
Blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin
Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man, Africans
So the mutants traveled North of the equator
Called Europeans later, the first race haters
So here's the Devil's alpha to the beta
Cause history's best qualified to teach one
Quoting German philosopher Schopenhauer
Every white man is a faded or a bleached one
Migration created further mutation
Genetic drifts, evolution through recombination
Adaptation to the climate
As the Caucus Mountain man reverted to that of a primate
Savage Neanderthals, until the late Paleolithic age
That's when the Black Grimaldi man came
With the symbol of the dragon, fire and art
Check cave paintings in France and Spain to the Venus of Willendorf
Around 2000 B.C. Southern Russians migrate in small units
Those who travel West populated Europe
Those who went East settled in Iran, known as Aryans
1500 B.C. some crossed the Khyber Pass into India and
created Hinduism, the first caste system, the origins of racism
A white dot on the forehead meant elite
The black dot - defeat; untrustable, untouchables
They wrote the holy Vedas in Sanskrit
That's the language that created Greek, German, Latin and English
Now the Minoans around 2000 B.C.
Starts on the island of Crete, in the Agean Sea
The Greek culture begins Western Civilization
But Western Civilization means White Domination
Myceneans learned from Kemet, called Egypt in Greek
It existed since at least 3000 B.C.
Creatin geometry and astronomy
This knowledge influenced Plato, Socrates and Hippocrates
Cause Imhotep, the real real father of medicine
Was worshiped in Greece and Rome in the form of a Black African
The word Africa comes from the Greek Aphrike
meaning without cold; the word philosophy means love of knowledge
Stole from first man, Greek power expands
The first Greek fraternities band
The word gymnasium is Greek for naked
This was the place where adolescent boys were educated, and molested
This was accepted because Greek culture was homosexual
For example, Sappho trained girls on the island of Lesbos
Hence, the word lesbian (Ay let these dumb motherfuckers know)
December 25th, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk,
fucked each other then beat their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, til they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list
The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leavin four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C., R.O.M.E.
succeeds to be the conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
Rome sold every citizen to slavery
The first genocide of history
And more bisexuality in sight; Julius Caesar was known as
every woman's husband and every man's wife (BEOTCH!)
Spartacus Revolt, a slave rebellion that lost
Where 6,000 slaves was nailed on a cross
Cross? Aw, shit! Jesus Christ! Time for some-act-right
Christians get your facts right
Cause Christ was not his name
That's Greek for One who is anointed
Yoshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?
So who do you praise, do you know his name?
Or do you do this in vain?
Accepting the religion they gave slaves to behave
Peep the description of historian Josephus
Short, dark, with an underdeveloped beard was Jesus
He had the Romans fearing revolution
The solution was to take him to court and falsely accuse him
After being murdered by Pilate how can it be
these same white Romans established Christianity
Constantine would later see the cross in a dream
In his vision, it read En Hawk Signo Wonka:
In this sign we conquer - Manifest Destiny
In 325 he convened the Nicean Creed
And separated god into three
Decided Jesus was born on December 25th
and raised then on the third day is a myth
Plus to deceive us
Commissioned Michelangelo to paint white pictures of Jesus
He used his aunt, uncle, and nephew
Subconsciously that affects you
It makes you put white people closer to God
(Yo, 'The Man' got game like a motherfucker!)
True indeed, fuck it, Jihad
In the eight century Muslims conquered
Spain, Portugal and France and controlled it for 700 years
They never mention this in history class
cause o'fays are threatened when you get the real lesson
Moors from Baghdad, Turkey threatened European Christians
Meaning, the white way of life; hence the Crusades for Christ
On November 25th, 1491
Santiago defeats the last Muslim stronghold, Grenada
King Ferdinand gave thanks to God for victory
And the Pope of Rome and declared this date to forever be
A day of Thanksgiving for all European Christians
.. Now listen, when you celebrate Thanksgiving
What you are actually celebratin
is the proclamation of the Pope of Rome
Who later, in league with Queen Isabella
sent Cardinal Ximenos to Spain
to murder any blacks that resisted Christianity
These Moors, these black men and women
were from Baghdad, Turkey
And today, you eat the turkey, for your Thanksgiving day
as the European Powers destroyed the Turkeys
Who were the forefathers of your mothers and fathers
Now fight the power, you bitch-ass niggaz!
Now around this time, Whites started callings us Negroes
That's Spanish for black object meaning we're not really people
but profit, and the triangle trade begins - they seize us
Queen Elizabeth sends the first slaves on a ship named Jesus
Stealin land from the indigenous natives
Gave them alcohol to keep the Red Man intoxicated
Whites claim they had to civilize these pagan animals
But up until 1848 there's documented cases
of whites bein the savage cannibals, eatin Indians
In 1992, it's Jeffery Dahmer
They slaughtered a whole race with guns
Drugs, priests and nuns
1763, the first demonic tactic of biological warfare
As tokens of peace, Sir Jeffery Amherst
passed out clothin and blankets to the Indian community
Infested with small pox, knowin they had no immunity
Today it's AIDS, you best believe it's man made
Cause ain't a damn thing changed.. let me explain
Now since people of color are genetically dominant
and Caucasoids are genetically recessive
and Whites expect to be predominant, meaning survive as a race then
they simply must, take precautions
That's why they're worried about their future now
Cuz by 2050, almost all the Earth's population
will be brown, then black, so understandin that, whites counterreact
(I'm sayin.. man.. them fools
ain't nothin but a teaspoon of milk in the world color majority)
So they created a system
to force blacks into an unnatural position
That re-enforces the position of natural inferiority
In addition, created guns and developed the ethnocentric view
that God justifies every fuckin thing they do
Condition people to perceive whites' culture as civilized
and every other culture considered primitive - not true!
Racism is the system of racial subjugation against nonwhites
in every areas of human relation
Entertainment, education, labor, politics
Law, religion, sex, war and economics
See blacks were 3/5ths of a man with tax purposes intended
You think you're Afro-American?
You're a 14th amendment and a good nigga
Jews don't salute the fuckin swastika
but niggaz pledge allegiance to the flag that accosted ya
They never teach about the break of islands like Jamaica
But before slaves came here whites would take a
pregnant women, hang her from a tree by her toes
Slice her stomach with a knife
and let the unborn baby fall to the flo'
And stop an unborn child in front of all the slaves
to inbreed fear, so they'd be scared and behave
and not rebel more
Understand all whites must be perceived as potential predators
I paraphrase historian Ishakamusa Barashango
Understand that regardless of the lofty ideas ingraved on paper
in such documents as the Constitution or Declaration
the basic nature.. of the European American white man
remains virtually unchanged.. so check
This is the nature of the threat

[chambers]

ok i been looking for his song everywhere, i cant find it. SK can you contact me and pass it on (id say over IRC but that bitch has banned be for calling him a ..... well a bitch). otherwise i have dl'd papoose and hes the shit!!! ive nbever heard such lines. i really think this guy is legend now, not a big fan of little brother (some songs sound good others dont).

[kAi]

Notorious B.I.G's new album is out and about.
Duets (The Final Chapter)

Go and get it bitches i found it at mininova, and on IRC, but the problem is it's missing 6 songs.

[masamuneehs]

Lil Wayne is releasing a new album this week. One of my friends got an early copy and it is fucking sick.

"Best rapper alive, since the best rapper retired."

[Jman]

Another good emcee gone
Just saw a segment on tv. it turns out that Proof of D12 (Eminem's long time/best friend and hype man) died after being shot in the head last night. There wasn't much details over the incident, but yahoo had an article about it
http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/31543106
It's really messed up.

[rockmanj]

oh yea, i heard its been gettin real grimey in detroit, and a lot of rappers sre being hurt or killed. in fact, obie trice was shot in the head not too long ago: http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8100

[msmush]

for all the aussies and heck who ever else support aussie hip hop =]. mmm recommedation LC just cuz i know them lol. old school hip hop owns. also if you're able to access an australian television and can get onto channell 31 [local community channel] called HEAVY WEIGHT DJ Jred [this years ITF (international turntables federation) winner] is mixing the next few episodes with old school hip hop clips, LC, 1200 techinques and so on.

oh right i suppose you want the time? ... thursday nights 9.30 - 10.00 pm channel 31 remember the name...HEAVY WEIGHT
they also have great bboy's breaking, mc's at the mic battling and awesome filmclips or mixes by Jred. check it out

[mage]

oh yea, i heard its been gettin real grimey in detroit, and a lot of rappers sre being hurt or killed. in fact, obie trice was shot in the head not too long ago: http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8100
they should all be killed. they're the ones that advocate violence with their music, anyway.

[rockmanj]

I'd say its more reactionary than proactive, really, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as erroneous as it may be.

[mage]

someone's opinion can't be "erroneous."

[Eskay]

Kekekekeke. Go buy Lupe Fiasco. Its a ***** album.

[SK]

There's a new 2Pac song out for the next album (which may be the last) featuring Krazie Bone from Bone Thugs N Harmony and produced by Swizz Beats. Its a pretty hot song but I really don't like the Swizz Beats production. Pac of course saves the song, is flow and style is still impressive and the best ever to this day.

By the way, Diddy's album is ridiculously good, if you like club music. There are actually a few good deep and conceptual songs on there.

[Turkish-S]

lol i love this thread replies:380 views:381

You should check out the new album of Obie Trice.. really good.

[SK]

lol i love this thread replies:380 views:381

You should check out the new album of Obie Trice.. really good.

The best thread GW has ever seen, other than the videos thread. Yeah I got that Obie Trice album its not bad at all.

Heres some videos:
Termanology, Watch How it Go Down (underground artist from Boston)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jLRiCyEvi4

Jay-Z, Show Me What You Got
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfb0xum4CfI

Diddy, Come to Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FPCGtctCYo

Akon and Eminem, Smack That
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5WO5YWZEbY

[Madell]

There's a new 2Pac song out for the next album (which may be the last) featuring Krazie Bone from Bone Thugs N Harmony and produced by Swizz Beats. Its a pretty hot song but I really don't like the Swizz Beats production. Pac of course saves the song, is flow and style is still impressive and the best ever to this day.

By the way, Diddy's album is ridiculously good, if you like club music. There are actually a few good deep and conceptual songs on there.
The last ? omg no !! :( I can't live without new albums coming out of 2pac

[SK]

The last ? omg no !! :( I can't live without new albums coming out of 2pac

Same here, fortunately we have the mixtapes to continue putting out new collaborations, production, and unreleased verses.

[Turkish-S]

some songs like:
ll cool j: Mama Said Knock You Out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoGrGKke3GI

Snoop Dog feat B-Real-Vato
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh-SYzJZtaU


CIARA FEAT CHAMILLIONAIRE- GET UP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VuOY4KAX5I

And i just got the new cd from ludacris. and i rly like it. If any one of you still read this tread :D you should check this cd out.

[Animeniax]

Here's a good hippity-hop video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0JkyaCrX0U

[Animeniax]

turkish-s, you got a problem with white rappers?

[Turkish-S]

turkish-s, you got a problem with white rappers?

No... I've got a problem with you... Now get back on topic or stfu and leave.

[Animeniax]

Umm, my last two posts were about rappers. Your last post was not. Hello???

Here's some old skool hip-hop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlWlYs3zmDc

[SK]

Parody rap isn't my thing, but I can see how it can be funny to certain people.

I would suggest Hip Hop listeners check out Hell Hath no Fury by the Clipse, its a really good street album, you won't find any pop rap here. Also the Doctor's Advocate, Game's new album, is really good, and of check the new Snoop Dogg album, Blue Carpet Treatment.

[Killa-Eyez]

Knock, knock... Still live here...?

[Strider]

It's a good couple weeks late, but pick up the new Bone Thugs album. It's that hot Dylan fiyah.

[Killa-Eyez]

Edit: Does anybody know about any good Japanese rap? Like the beginning of Samurai Champloo (by the Nujabes)?

Well...? Does anybody?
I already got the OST's (Nujabes, Tsutchie, Fat Jon, Masta, and all other featured artists).
So does anyone know some other Japanese rap?

[XanBcoo]

Hip-hop usually isn't my thing, but M-flo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-flo) are decent.

If anything, you should listen to "Miss You" featuring melody and yamamoto ryohei, just for the lulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_N_kcBqyw

boom, clap
boom-boom-boom, clap
boom, clap
boom-boom-boom, clap!

[Killa-Eyez]

Hip-hop usually isn't my thing, but M-flo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-flo) are decent.

If anything, you should listen to "Miss You" featuring melody and yamamoto ryohei, just for the lulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_N_kcBqyw

boom, clap
boom-boom-boom, clap
boom, clap
boom-boom-boom, clap!

Funny... I'll check in it some more...
Any other hiphop from Nippon?

[SK]

Are you an Indo Killa?

SK's Top Songs, July 3rd, 2007.
#1. The People - Common
#2. Stronger - Kanye West
#3. Can't Tell Me Nothing - Kanye West
#4. The Game - Common
#5. Classic - Kanye West, KRS-1, Rakim the God MC, Nas
#6. Get Me Bodied - Beyonce
#7. Born Alone, Die Alone - Termanology
#8. Double Up - R. Kelly
#9. Please Don't Stop the Music - Rihanna
#10. The Way I Are - Timbaland

Have fun downloading kids!

[rockmanj]

i see someone got the official cant tell me nothin mixtape...


but actually that new timbo album is crazy, esp. that "bounce" track. Ive been rockin that joint on full blast for a coupla months now. And, im waiting on the new tech n9ne, its a compilation of sorts, but that cat has the hottest technique in the game...Bar None

[SK]

Yeah had that mixtape for a while now. But there's actually videos for all those Ye and Common songs.

[rockmanj]

the throw some d's video was pretty funny

[Animeniax]

Funny... I'll check in it some more...
Any other hiphop from Nippon?
Sadly hip-hop is the "in" music genre in Japan right now. I was looking at live acts at indie underground clubs in Shibuya, Tokyo, and 75% of the acts were hip-hop. Hopefully it doesn't take quite as long to die in Japan as it did in the US.

[rockmanj]

damn, son, thats pretty harsh. its too bad hip hop really is dead in the us.

[SK]

Hip Hop isn't dead, its just that a lot of people are falling off. Its in a transition phase, a lot of genres have gone through that.

EDIT: BTW, Don't shitpost in my thread Anim, I'm not gonna get a warning for you, so thats all I'm gonna say at this point.

[Animeniax]

It isn't dead, but it's dying, and painfully slowly I might add.

edit: actually my post is in response to Killa Eyez request for some Japanese hip-hop. I was just letting him know that hip-hop is big in Japan right now (sadly), so he should be able to find some worth listening to.

[SK]

I forgive you.

[Animeniax]

Stay on topic!

Japanese hip-hoppers are especially annoying because they wear the clothes and listen to the music, but don't really know what hip-hop is about, unless that's really all there is to it. Seeing a 95 lb Japanese guy in XXL clothing that's 5 times his size with a ball cap turned to the side and unlaced shoes just pisses me off. I tried to like J-hiphop because the Japanese make everything better, and with their language they can make some cool rhymes, but the lyrics and meanings are all the same drivel as American hip-hop, just without the guns and Escalades and jewelry.

[Eddie_Brock]

Meeh I don't listen to j -hiphop never tried it, but I am a huge hip hop fan and I think that hip hop isn't dead. There are still rappers who are droping hot shit.
BTW i heard couple of songs of the new common album and it is really dope. You should listen to it when you have the time.

[Killa-Eyez]

I just listen to the beats anyho, cuz I don't understand any of it.
Hip-Hop isn't all about MC-ing ya know. DJ-ing is a big factor 2.
If it sounds Hip-Hop to me it's all good! I give the Japanese slack anyho considering them having a totally diffrent culture... Just hope some of them "get" the Hip-Hop lifestyle and it's influences, so something good will come of it. I'll apreciate their effort anyway so if something actually is tight, I'll praise them and calling them people who really can do everything! :D

To get back @ some previous posts... M-flo has 3 or 4 "OK" beats in the whole 1.3 gb I downloaded from him... I like the song with Minmi, Lotta Love, though it ins't Hip-Hop. More like dance. So if anyone else has recomendations regarding Nippon Hip-Hop, please point me in some good directions please!!! I'll really appreciate it!

Hip-Hop ins't dead, there's only separation between the high-quality quantulum and the low-quality quantity (Wikipedia).

[rockmanj]

Hmm..what i meant is that, effectively, hip hop as a whole..almost no one remembers what it is When i say hip hop is dead, i mean the original meaning, the community, and the 4 elemenats. Like, if you ask old school b-boys, they'll say that hip-hop's bastard child has killed it (the bastard child being rapping). So in effect, hip hop's original form IS dead; its something a little different; like a zombie that thinks its still alive. Hmmm, its either that, or its just in a state of arrested development, but i would say that hip hop, (not just rap) is for the most part, promoted by purists for what it really is.

[SK]

I see some of your points, but some of them I definitely don't agree with.

[Killa-Eyez]

We'll, I'll admit it's hard finding good Hip-Hop music and people livin it, but there are a lot though... In Holland there's plenty... but here's diffrent from the USA indeed... Don't know why it has been hyped in the wrong direction... Why waste that feeling? It really makes ya wonder nowadays in this genre, what is music? Haha, I know I'm just blurring things out right now and don't make sense, but my minds thinking too fast and my hands can't keep up. But if anyone does, ya know what I'm sayin' son?

I'm not just a HipHop fanatic, I listen to all genres (almost). But HipHop is the one I prefer cause it involves a lot of messages and in some way, involves all the other genre's. To me it's like the ultimate genre (at the moment) and the best way to spread your message in the shortest way possible using music.

Hmm, if anything, I suggest those interested download a Dutch HipHop group and just listen to the beats and feel the differences between Dutch and English. I wanna post a link to a torrent but instead I'll give you a name to look into. They're called Opgezwolle (meaning swollen) and are from a town called Zwolle (hense the name). Type in the name in any of the most common torrent sites, dl and listen then get back at me for feedback and comments... :D

[SK]

My friend tried to put me on Dutch rap but I wasn't feeling it.

[rockmanj]

I see some of your points, but some of them I definitely don't agree with.


Most wouldnt, its a pretty extreme view. I guess the gist is that Hip-hop has been diluted, especially the rap component, and the other parts of it are just, like in the shadows, because its not really promoted to anyone so much.

[Killa-Eyez]

My friend tried to put me on Dutch rap but I wasn't feeling it.

Did you listened to Opgezwolle? You should if you didn't...
Just try it, can't hurt? Can it? :D Or try Pete Philly & Perquisite - Mind.State (album), it's in English. Just to check where the Dutch are...

[Turkish-S]

maaaaan you can't be serious... dutch rap SUX. Ali B,Baas B??, Lange Frans????? en party squad WTF!!!.. Opgezwolle and opposites are oke though. and jeugd van tegenwoordig are kinda fun too.. But the BS that you see on tv sucks HARD. :)

[Animeniax]

Ahh crap, it's gonna be the Source Awards up in here...

Let's all step back for a moment and remember hip hop sux period, so let's not talk down on just the dutch stuff.

[rockmanj]

are you talking about hip hop, or rap?

[SK]

Ahh crap, it's gonna be the Source Awards up in here...

Let's all step back for a moment and remember hip hop sux period, so let's not talk down on just the dutch stuff.

So what's wrong, are you not getting enough attention at home?

[Turkish-S]

Just ignore him he will shut up eventually.
my top 10 atm:
1. Lyrics Born Feat. Joyo Velarde - Over You
2. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - candy paint
3. Sol.Illaquists Of Sound - As If We Existed
4. Tech n9ne - T9X
5. Tech n9ne - Come Gangsta
6. 2pac - Life's So Hard (Original)
7. Jay-Z - Trouble (Produced By Dr. Dre)
8 Sage Francis - Sea Lion
9. Big Tuck - Rush
10. Brother Lynch Hung - Welcome to Your Own Death

:)

[itadakimasu]

top ten atm :

kool keith
doctah dooom
dr. octagon
black elvis
did i mention kool keith?

most rap i hear on the radio really sucks... its just horrible.

[SK]

Boston Area rap anthem featuring Termanology and a bunch of other Mass bulls, some real street shit here:
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.2534/title.termanology-f-big-shug-st-krumbsnatcha-special-teamz-triple-threat-more-mass-as-a-nation#post-204556

[Animeniax]

Did you misspell "Terminology", or is that the way the "artist" spells it?

[SK]

Did you misspell "Terminology", or is that the way the "artist" spells it?

Youre a fucking faggot get out of my thread.

[Animeniax]

I'm just looking out for the peeps. I'll feel real bad for them when they flunk English class cause they misspell words like terminology, ludicrous, and exhibit, thanks to these hip-hoppers.

[masamuneehs]

Break it up you two.
SK, this is a verbal warning. Tone it down and stop calling forum members names.
I thought you wanted to come back to these forums?
seriously, enough. Get back on topic.

If you really want to duke it out, go take it to PMs.

[SK]

Break it up you two.
SK, this is a verbal warning. Tone it down and stop calling forum members names.
I thought you wanted to come back to these forums?
seriously, enough. Get back on topic.

If you really want to duke it out, go take it to PMs.

Aye Aye Capitan.

[Y]

I think the main reason people are so down on hip-hop or rap is because they get a wide range of expression in other genres since they pay attention to those genres. They get exposed to new and unique stuff that doesn't hit the airwaves thanks to the magic of Internet downloading, but they only hear hip-hop or rap on the radio as they are swapping their new Radiohead CDs out.

Well, that and the other obvious issue I won't mention.

I'm currently playing weezy mixtapes over and over again.

[SK]

I listen to Hip Hop cuz I'm from the hood.

[Killa-Eyez]

maaaaan you can't be serious... dutch rap SUX. Ali B,Baas B??, Lange Frans????? en party squad WTF!!!.. Opgezwolle and opposites are oke though. and jeugd van tegenwoordig are kinda fun too.. But the BS that you see on tv sucks HARD. :)

Dude? :confused: Yes, you're right, dutch RAP sucks, but I'm talking about hip-hop.
Like rockmanj sais, there's a difference between the 2, so my recommendations are agreeable right? I came up with Opgezwolle and Pete Philly & Perquisite, not Ali-B, Baas B or Lange Frans, didn't I? I don't even think The Opposites are worth listening to, let alone Jeugd van Tegenwoordig! So there you have it!!!
But some other good dutch artists: Kubus, Jawat!, Duvelduvel, Blaxtar, Typhoon, C-Mon & Kypsky and sometimes Raymzter... Maybe even a little Brainpower.


I'm just looking out for the peeps. I'll feel real bad for them when they flunk English class cause they misspell words like terminology, ludicrous, and exhibit, thanks to these hip-hoppers.

If you didn't know, Termanology, Ludacris and Xzibit are all NAMES! So I don't know who you're looking out for, but they're already pretty hopeless if they don't get that... Just saying..
I'll bet their English is better then yours, judging from it...
And a quick question, what music do you listen to? If you do at all...

To SK: Termanology sounds pretty south, not my style... Don't know where Boston lies...

[Animeniax]

Actually I'm into J-pop, J-rock, and J-hiphop (to a lesser degree). The thing about J-hip-hop is that the artists are still true to the roots of hiphop with the beats and attitudes. Their lyrics aren't all about how many cars they have or what champagne they drink or how many women they get. I've seen enough of hip hop on American TV cause it's everywhere, diluted and made mainstream. When you have old women "living hip hop" asking each other "where you at?" in Motorola cell phone commercials, that's a good signal the end is near.

[XanBcoo]

Gotta agree with Animaniax here. But as far as J-hiphop's "roots" are concerned, it's kinda funny how popular it's become without having the obvious racial influence that early American hiphop had. It's like Japan jumped on the rap bandwagon after America had made it mainstream. I think they'll always be missing that aspect of it, which could be a good thing or a bad thing, considering even American hiphop/rap has lost that key social commentary factor.

But I also don't have much experience with Japanese rap beyond Hero's Comeback (the current Naruto OP song), and stuff by M-flo which I've already mentioned.

[Animeniax]

Definitely right on about the lack of racial roots in the culture among J-hiphop artists and fans, but at least they're still true to the art at this point, whereas American hip-hop has degenerated into a money-making enterprise. The Japanese take anything and make it better.

[rockmanj]

Hmm...Ive heard some rap from Japan, and while some of it had a good rhythm to it, its still missing something...intangible; i cant quite put my finger on it. But lately, ive been listening to lots of De La (if u havent done so, cop the impossible mission mixtape) and the latest pharoahe monche joint (fyre-blazing hotness).

And actually, from the point that rap aguably became the "main element" in hop hip, it was all about money. I mean, since companies discovered that people will but rap albums, its always been like that, and a lotta good acts cant get on cause some boardroom doesnt think so-and-so can sell enough records to make some old white guys more money that they dont need....but im getting preachy

Anyway, a good book to read is "can't stop, won't stop" by jeff chang. its quite an amazing book that's like a love letter to hip-hop, and at the same time, maybe its epitaph.

P.S. and even though those commercials are B.S. anyone can live hip hop, but its not really about how u talk (to a certain extent). Its all about expression.

[Killa-Eyez]

Sure by stating the obvious rap overall is whack, but you make it sound that America has nothing to offer anymore, while I'm over here still discovering... I've got an whole list of artists I don't even know 25% off... And I'm not talking about any Young Somewhat or Little Fizzle or some change...

So anyway, Animeniax, do you have any other recommendations concerning Nippon Hip-Hop except for M-Flo?

And why the hell does my rep suck!? Did someone do that? How does it even work!?

[SK]

If you're looking for good Hip Hop on the radio, you're probably not going to find it. Mainstream Hip Hop stations are geared toward 12 year old white girls, which real Hip Hop is not geared toward at all. If you want real shit you're expected to look for it yourself, theres plenty of albums with horrible poppy singles but are actually complete albums. Also put on MTV Jams, they actually play good songs. You don't here Common - The People on the radio or Kanye West - Stronger but its all over Jams.

Note: Termanology is a rapper from Lawrence, MA about 20 miles NW of Boston. Boston is a northeast city and is no where near the south. As such, Term sounds like a throwback to true street East Coast rappers, most notably the late also Puerto Rican legend, Big Pun.

I really think that true Hip Hop can only be enjoyed by people who can truly feel the message of the music.

I don't think the other elements of Hip Hop are forgotten at all. I'm working at a United Way youth program servicing inner city kids, many of them from the projects. The Hip Hop culture is alive and well. Girls Double Dutch. Guys freestyle on the bleachers while others play ball. Theres spraypainted murals on display (and some illegal ones around). Kids talk about whats hot on the street, from mixtapes to albums to sneakers. At the Friday block parties there are B-boys breakin and pop lockin.

Hip Hop is NOT DEAD. Album sales from Common and Kanye will prove it...

[XanBcoo]

Don't know where to dump this, but I guess it's related to HipHop or R&B:

Gnarls Barkley's "Crazy" played on a Theremin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW0B1sipLBI)

<3 the Theremin

[Animeniax]

@Killa-Eyez: I never recommended m-flo, that was someone else.

Big Pun died? Another rap-related killing or something else? Chris Rock would be all over this if it was 1995.

[Killa-Eyez]

@ SK: So true!!!!

@ Animeniax: Sorry, thought it was you, but you don't have any recomendations? Been asking for a while now... And dudes, about my rep, WTF? Explain please... :D

[rockmanj]

@Killa-Eyez: I never recommended m-flo, that was someone else.

Big Pun died? Another rap-related killing or something else? Chris Rock would be all over this if it was 1995.


WTF...you're late as hell, and he died of a massive heart attack; dude was like 500 pounds

[Animeniax]

Now that I think about it I remember hearing that Big Pun died. I think I was confusing him with Fat Joe. Is Fat Joe still around?

[rockmanj]

yea, he still fatting his way around. a lotta people go them confused. probably cause they were both fat puerto rican guys that ran with the same crew (Terror Squad). althought their rap styles are completely different (pun used to take massive breaths while spittin, like he was getting tired from talking..altho one of the best ever).

[Killa-Eyez]

Now that I think about it I remember hearing that Big Pun died. I think I was confusing him with Fat Joe. Is Fat Joe still around?

Hahaha! :D Extremely dry comment...

Fat Joe seems dumb. Saw him in an interview with... I don't know anymore but they were talking about the biggest beefs between rappers and he got to talking about LL Cool J and some other skinny dude that were going at it... Man did he sound dumb!
Well, if you can make a hit song with the title Lean Back, you won't see me actin' up (guess cock-eyed Scottie did all the hard work on that one :D )!
B2K Crip-walkin' like that's what's up! :p

[rockmanj]

You must mean LL cool j and canibus..and i know he sounds a little silly at times, but i dont know about "dumb"...and i kind of dont know what you're talking about :\

[SK]

Fat Joe seems like the typical street dude.

[itadakimasu]

i'd listen to more hip hop if i had sattelite or hd radio. The 3 'hip hop' stations have 5-6 song play lists that they loop all day long and its not uncommon for 2/3 or even 3/3 to be playing the same song at the same time.

Rock star
Hey be be (only good part "so hot up in the club, i aint got no shoes on... silly black people")
umbrella ela ela ela A A A
a couple more i cant think of... they are all pretty horrible though.

the only hip hop / rap cd i have in my car is the old pharoahe moche cd and it doesn't get very much cd time in my car.

[SK]

Common's new album Finding Forever drops July 29th, its going to be a must have, I'll post download links once I find them myself.

[rockmanj]

I just got the new t.i. can't say im very impressed; as trap muzik (IMO) is his best album. I think he needs to take it up another gear, because this latest one and King are pretty much the same thing.

[Turkish-S]

Tech n9ne's new album (misery loves kompany) is pretty good you should check it out if you like mid westside music.

[rockmanj]

hmm...its so-so, but that's odd to call it 'midwest music'. what exacty does that mean?

[Killa-Eyez]

You must mean LL cool j and canibus..and i know he sounds a little silly at times, but i dont know about "dumb"...and i kind of dont know what you're talking about :\

Cock-eyed Scottie = Scott Storch, producer of the song Lean Back.

B2K Crip-Walking like that's what's up = line from Fat Joe's rap on Lean Back.

[rockmanj]

Cock-eyed Scottie = Scott Storch, producer of the song Lean Back.

B2K Crip-Walking like that's what's up = line from Fat Joe's rap on Lean Back.


I mean, i know about those 2 things...but u just kinda threw them out there semi-randomly, and with all the smiley faces and such.

[SK]

hmm...its so-so, but that's odd to call it 'midwest music'. what exacty does that mean?

Well each region or city has a certain sound. For example, I really don't like Southern rap, but I do like Midwest rap.

[SK]

THIS JUST IN: COMMON - FINDING FOREVER *LEAKED*:
(if you're going to download please also buy the album on its release date July 31st)

http://4filehosting.com/file/44561/Common-Finding-Forever--RapGodFathers-com--rar.html

Have fun kids.

[Killa-Eyez]

I mean, i know about those 2 things...but u just kinda threw them out there semi-randomly, and with all the smiley faces and such.

Well, that's me! :D
Actually I threw out 1 thing (the b2k thing), the other one had to with Scottie creating a beat so hot that Fat Joe didn't even had to bother coming up with a good rap.

[Turkish-S]

hmm...its so-so, but that's odd to call it 'midwest music'. what exacty does that mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwest_hip_hop wiki

[seobeglobal]

i don't know if you've ever heard it but i like dragon ash style.

[Killa-Eyez]

:eek:
Click! (http://www.setbb.com/amalgam/viewtopic.php?t=1611&start=0&sid=059f8bc1929aa96e36c9ea314387c15b&mforum=amalgam)

[SK]

:eek:
Click! (http://www.setbb.com/amalgam/viewtopic.php?t=1611&start=0&sid=059f8bc1929aa96e36c9ea314387c15b&mforum=amalgam)

Nice link man.

BTW whos heard the Common and Lily Allen track? The beat and vocals are crazy on that shit, Kanye's a genius sampling her voice and Comm flows effortlessly. That song is hypnotic.

[rockmanj]

the new common is of course, hot; but y does com look like a pedophile on the album cover?

[SK]

the new common is of course, hot; but y does com look like a pedophile on the album cover?

HAHAHAHA, yeah there is a weird look in his eyes on the cover.

[Koyuki]

Hooked up with Commons new CD, it's dope. Also nice to see a track made by Jdilla.

[SK]

Which track did J-Dilla produce?

[rockmanj]

i believe it is play your cards right, but i could be wrong....which i am. It know 'so far to go' is produced by jay-dee; that was on the shining, which i have.

[SK]

The Official Kanye West Graduation Album Cover and Tracklisting! (I can't wait for Sep 11th!)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s1/sneaksantees/kanyealbumart.jpg

1. Good Morning
2. Homecoming (Featuring Chris Martin)
3. Stronger
4. Champion
5. Good Life (Featuring T-Pain)
6. I Wonder
7. Even More Broke Phi Broke (Skit)
8. Can’t Tell Me Nothing
9. Drunk and Hot Girls (Featuring Mos Def)
10. Evrything I Am (Scratches By DJ Priemier)
11.Good Night (Featuring Mos Def & Al Be)
12. Big Brother
13. Graduation (Skit)
14. The Glory
15. CRS (Featuring Lupe Fiasco and Pharrell) [Pre-Order Only]

I'm really looking forward to this album. The cover art is by a famous Japanese pop artist. I'm surprised the song with John Mayer isn't on it, I heard it will be released as part of the Japan exclusive. Anyway discuss...

[Killa-Eyez]

I'm not up-to-date at all in the scene. I'm captured in the era of Five Deez, it's all I'm listening to...
Like: Fat Jon & Styrofoam with tracks like: Bleed and Space Gangsta from the album The Same Channel...
I'm saying folks, they're a little out there, but try to listen to them, they're like in a whole other dimension! :p

The Hip-Pop today is fun and all but when a decent artist like Kanye West already had badmouthing about his producing style, I think it's really lame using Daft Punk's originallity to make some stupid "I wanna ... you" song of it. I dunno how he got Daft Punk to co-op with him, but it's a bunch of bullshit. :mad:

[rockmanj]

Lately I've been on a retro kick...some De La, Pharcyde, and i copped the new Kano...yet I'm a bit disappointed. I know he has that fire in him, but he's not bringing it like he should.

[itadakimasu]

The Official Kanye West Graduation Album Cover and Tracklisting! (I can't wait for Sep 11th!)


1. Good Morning
2. Homecoming (Featuring Chris Martin)
3. Stronger
4. Champion
5. Good Life (Featuring T-Pain)
6. I Wonder
7. Even More Broke Phi Broke (Skit)
8. Can’t Tell Me Nothing
9. Drunk and Hot Girls (Featuring Mos Def)
10. Evrything I Am (Scratches By DJ Priemier)
11.Good Night (Featuring Mos Def & Al Be)
12. Big Brother
13. Graduation (Skit)
14. The Glory
15. CRS (Featuring Lupe Fiasco and Pharrell) [Pre-Order Only]

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This is the first cd I have bought in a very long time. Didn't like it the first time i listened to it, but now i think its a pretty solid cd after listening to it probably 20 times so far. mine is only 13 tracks, i dont think i have the skits idk. anyhow, favorite tracks from sk's track list :1,3,8,10,12 . thats why i say its a pretty solid cd, has about 5 songs that i like.

Worst track? drunk hot girls and the one with lil wayne... that is the worst flow(lil waynes) in the history of all rap / hip hop music, seriously.... that shit is whack.

[Killa-Eyez]

Worst track? drunk hot girls and the one with lil wayne... that is the worst flow(lil waynes) in the history of all rap / hip hop music, seriously.... that shit is whack.

I hate Lil Wayne as much as the next man, but check out the track found on the mixtape I Can't Feel My Face called Badside by Wayne and Santana, the beat is fucking hot! :cool: The flow I dig also although the contents is about bullshit again...
Just a track to get ya bounce on! Swizzie is HOT man! :cool:

Edit: Just to not doublepost, anybody ever heard of Aim?
He's also into HipHop but he's more instrumental like, cause he's a producer.
Anyway he doesn't make raw HipHop or anything like that but more mellow ambient Trip-Hop sounds. I think he's real good, kinda like Nujabes or Fat Jon but in his own style. His latest album is Flight 602. Check him out.

[Killa-Eyez]

Really did not want to doublepost...

[Eddie_Brock]

time for a update.
Dillagence is out at http://www.mickboogie.com/ (free download). And it is slamming.
Busta is going back to basic and i like it. And i can't say enough how J Dilla is a genius.
enjoy!

[BurnHavoc]

Saul Williams - The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of NiggyTardust!

http://niggytardust.com/

Produced by Trent Reznor.

1. Black History Month
2. Convict Colony
3. Tr(n)igger
4. Sunday Bloody Sunday
5. Break
6. NiggyTardust
7. DNA
8. WTF!
9. Scared Money
10. Raw
11. Skin of a Drum
12. No One Ever Does
13. Banged and Blown Through
14. Raised to be Lowered
15. The Ritual

Only available online, 192 for free, $5 gets you FLAC/320/192 (your choice). Compleatly DRM free. The album is worth far more then $5 IMO, but if theres ever going to be a starting point for cutting out the record labels, this is it. Fuck Radiohead and their bait and switch move with In Rainbows. Support the future of the industry, an affordable one where more of your money goes twards the people who do the real work.

And just to throw more shit into the fan, this blog entry was written by Rob Sheridan who's spent years working with Trent Reznor through all the label-hopping the the man has done:
http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2007/10/when-pigs-fly-death-of-oink-birth-of.html
Quite possibly the best rant about the state of the Music Industry. <win>

Oh, and this is the first hiphop album I've actually enjoyed in almost a decade. Though maybe it's just the industrial influence.

[Killa-Eyez]

Some other hiphop album(s) y'all might enjoy...

Pete Philly & Perquisite (http://www.petephillyandperquisite.com/)

Mind.State

http://www.anti.com/dispatch/_depot/title/lrg/59-fdc68f4b698dafd78e024380d0e4237e.jpg (http://www.anti.com/catalog/view/59/Mindstate)

Track List:
01. Intro
02. Relieved
03. Insomnia
04. Motivated
05. Eager
06. Lazy
07. Respect
08. Cocksure
09. Conflicted
10. Grateful
11. Mindstate
12. Mellow (Feat. Senna)
13. Paranoid
14. Cheeky (Feat. Cee Major)
15. Grateful II
16. Hope (Feat. Talib Kweli)
17. Amazed

http://www.anti.com/dispatch/_depot/title/lrg/80-aa976618817e9a8e55937d506b69d31a.jpg (http://www.anti.com/catalog/view/80/Remindstate)

ReMind.State

Track List:
01. Intro (Perquisite Remix)
02. Relieved (New generation Big Band Remix)
03. Insomnia (Laagman remix)
04. Motivated (Crackman remix)
05. Eager (Perquisite remix)
06. Lazy (Collective Efforts Remix)
07. Respect (C-mon & Kypski Remix)
08. Cocksure (Laidback Luke Remix)
09. Conflicted (Metropole Orchestra Remix)
10. Grateful (Nicolay Remix)
11. Mindstate (Arts the Beatdoctor Remix)
12. Mellow (Morgan Spacek Remix)
13. Paranoid (Darin G. Remix)
14. Cheeky (DJ PCM Remix)
15. Hope (DJ Mitsu Remix)
16. Amazed (Seiji Remix)

http://www.anti.com/dispatch/_depot/title/lrg/c9eb153dd6ec427c303d177ae72fc75a.jpg (http://www.anti.com/catalog/view/96/Mystery_Repeats)

Mystery Repeats

Track List:
01. Clap Kick Flow
02. Womb To Womb
03. Fish To Fry
04. Hectic
05. Q&A
06. Believer
07. Awake
08. Traveler (Feat. Erminia Fernandez Cardoba)
09. Last Love Song
10. Freestyle
11. Third Degree
12. Balance (Feat. GMB)
13. Empire
14. High Tide
15. Mystery Repeats
16. Time Flies

They're from Amsterdam and they rock! And Pete Philly is, like I am, from Aruba! :p