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j00b
Tue, 04-27-2004, 12:20 AM
Now that the 3rd Hokage is officially laid to rest, a new issue will arise...who will be the 5th hokage? At this point i like kakashi for the posiion, but i believe that the main reason is that he is the person i have seen the most out of. If he watched hokage fight while he used his sharingan, he could know several moves. I think that Jiraiya is probably too perverted to be hokage, especially considering that he had left the town for awhile and chose not to tell the 3rd about his return, so maybe he was embarassed about something he did or feared punishment for something...I really don't know.
And please, if you already know this either do not post or post only using information that has been given in the anime. I want to know what other people think, but i want to find out the actual result through the anime.
HimizujinEternia
Tue, 04-27-2004, 12:30 AM
You have to remember, being Hokage is more than just what moves the person knows. What Hokage really means is someone who has mastered the way of the ninja so perfectly that they can lead the village effectively. In fact, the point of the last part of the last arc was to show that a true ninja's strength is not measured in Jutsus, but in how well they protect what is dear to them. The strongest in this category from what we've seen is Naruto, namely due to his fight against Gaara.
However, we must also look at the state Konoha is in right now. They have lost a good deal of Ninjas in the war, and probably need some time to recover. Also, while it has been delayed, it should be obvious that the threat of Orochimaru is no where near gone. The Hokage they choose must be strong enough to hold off such a threat. We have already seen that Kakashi doesn't stand a chance against Orochimaru, and so does no one else in Konoha. The only person that can fight a Sennin like Oro equally is another Sennin. Therefore, from what we've seen, Jiraiya is the best pick for Hokage on this category alone.
Putting the two together, however, it's anyone's guess. Naruto is not nearly old enough or strong enough to effectively lead Konoha in a time of war, and Jiraiya is too much of a skirt chaser.
LostAngel
Tue, 04-27-2004, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by: HimizujinEternia
You have to remember, being Hokage is more than just what moves the person knows. What Hokage really means is someone who has mastered the way of the ninja so perfectly that they can lead the village effectively. In fact, the point of the last part of the last arc was to show that a true ninja's strength is not measured in Jutsus, but in how well they protect what is dear to them. The strongest in this category from what we've seen is Naruto, namely due to his fight against Gaara.
However, we must also look at the state Konoha is in right now. They have lost a good deal of Ninjas in the war, and probably need some time to recover. Also, while it has been delayed, it should be obvious that the threat of Orochimaru is no where near gone. The Hokage they choose must be strong enough to hold off such a threat. We have already seen that Kakashi doesn't stand a chance against Orochimaru, and so does no one else in Konoha. The only person that can fight a Sennin like Oro equally is another Sennin. Therefore, from what we've seen, Jiraiya is the best pick for Hokage on this category alone.
Putting the two together, however, it's anyone's guess. Naruto is not nearly old enough or strong enough to effectively lead Konoha in a time of war, and Jiraiya is too much of a skirt chaser.
You absolutely right about going to need another Sennin, but like j00b Jiriaya is to pervy so I think, because no one has ever said shes dead or not but the girl that was partnered up with Orchi and Jiriaya. I cant remember her name but they have mentioned her so I think they plan to bring her into the story. I could be wrong but I think that she would be the best hokage. Jiriaya didn't even really want to get involved with the war or what ever, his strong but not fit to be Hokage. So that only leaves one other person that is strong enough, and its her. Plus its time they get a girl in there as a hokage.
j00b
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:01 AM
i don't know about that. first of all, the reason that i didn't mention naruto is that he is too young and i figure that the hokage needs to at least be a chuunin at some point. Secondly, i think that the hokage will be somebody who has been seen a lot in the village. If the other women was not in the city to help out, how do we know she is devoted enough to the village...we haven't even seen her yet (i think).
Aeon
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:02 AM
Yea I agree with LostAngel, Tsunade seem's like the best fit since she's a Sennin so I'm guessing she can hold her own against Oro. Jaraiya seem's like he's gonna split again and work on another novel like he did before. Another person I think it could be, would be Hiashi. I dunno if the Hyuuga main family goes threw the acadamy but he seem's to be Jounin level and seem's to be level's above both Kakashi and Gai.
I have a question and didn't want to make a topic for it. I have a song stuck in my head and I think it's a Naruto opening or ending. The part that's stuck in my head is the begining it start's off with somebody screaming Let's Go and I think the hook is I wanna Rock. Any help on this song would be greatly appreciated.
LostAngel
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:07 AM
only in flashbacks. but if shes still alive and kicking we dont know where shes at so that would be sometype of arc. Naruto, I think he will somehow turn out to be the hokage but right now his to young.
They are going to have to find a 5th soon since the village is so critical and vulnerable so they might choose someone in the village.
Tsunade's her name, I keep forgetting her name lol.
Himura_san
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:10 AM
this guy is an idiot.
Xollence
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:11 AM
I don't think they'll have a hokage any time soon. Maybe the hokage will be a group of high level jounnins?
LostAngel
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:13 AM
Its possible it will be high level Jounins. True I dont think they will have a Hokage anytime soon, but they are going to want one quickly I would think.
j00b
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:14 AM
i am pretty sure there can only be one hokage at a tme...i realize the 4th was chosen and initiated before the 3rd died, but i doubt there can be a group
LostAngel
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:15 AM
Doesn't the previous Hokage choose a kid they think is fit and just train them. Because their was a flash back of the 1 and 2 telling the 3rd when he was about Narutos age he was going to be the next hokage.
CapsuleCorpJX
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by: j00b
Now that the 3rd Hokage is officially laid to rest, a new issue will arise...who will be the 5th hokage? At this point i like kakashi for the posiion, but i believe that the main reason is that he is the person i have seen the most out of. If he watched hokage fight while he used his sharingan, he could know several moves. I think that Jiraiya is probably too perverted to be hokage, especially considering that he had left the town for awhile and chose not to tell the 3rd about his return, so maybe he was embarassed about something he did or feared punishment for something...I really don't know.
And please, if you already know this either do not post or post only using information that has been given in the anime. I want to know what other people think, but i want to find out the actual result through the anime.
Now considering Gai, and probably Asuma and Kurenai are around Kakashi's level, and the fact that Kakashi himself admitted that he had little or no chance against Orochimaru (during their encounter when he was trying to supress the cursed seal on Sasuke), you will realize that it is a very remote chance Kakshi will become Hokage.
If anything, at this point in the story, I would have chosen Jiyara to be the next Hokage.
Stoopider
Tue, 04-27-2004, 06:33 AM
Gai for Hokage anyone??
Lift up your hands and shout!! Heil Gai!
Terracosmo
Tue, 04-27-2004, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by: HimizujinEternia
The strongest in this category from what we've seen is Naruto, namely due to his fight against Gaara.
I don't think the fact that Naruto protects his 2 best friends from Gaara is enough to qualify him as a Hokage. If that's the case just about any person in the series can become one, since most of them want to protect someone.
lionheart1012000
Tue, 04-27-2004, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by: Stoopider
Gai for Hokage anyone??
Lift up your hands and shout!! Heil Gai!
no! all hail jiraiya *makes random posters for jiraiya*. the all mighty jiraiya will make the female ninja wear skimpy skimpy outfits, oh yeah. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif jk
Garlannd
Tue, 04-27-2004, 10:38 AM
Even if Jir was offered the position of 5th I don't think he'd take it. He would rather do more "data collecting" for his second book.
*edit*
Also I think maybe they introduced that purple hair girl for this job. Perhaps she'll be the first female Hokage? Just a guess =p. Maybe we haven't met the person yet. I think it will be interesting to see who it is though.
God help us all if it is Gai! SPRINGTIME OF YOUR LIVES! Wooo lol
LostAngel
Tue, 04-27-2004, 01:39 PM
Well the Purple hair ANBU is probably equal or less at powerful as Kakashi. They are to weak to become Hokage. They make a big deal about the 3 sennin, Jiriaya, Orchi, and Tsunade. Orchi = Bad Jiriaya = Pervert Tsunade = only one left powerful enough to become the 5th and she will be the first female hokage. I just wonder how they will bring her into the story, because you know they have to bring her in even if they dont have her as the 5th. Mainly because shes a legendary ninja of the village. I dont think they ever said she was dead or something so she the only one that is qualified to become hokage.
Even though I would love to see Jiriaya become hokage bc his just funny as hell, but I doubt it.
j00b
Tue, 04-27-2004, 02:56 PM
yeah. but why would they have somebody be hokage who hadn't been around...the hokage needs to be someone they can always count on to be there, and being as we have seen nothing about that character aside from a few flashbacks, i highly doubt that tsunade will be the next hokage...unless of course tsunade is some other character and has just been concealing her identity.
Shuurai
Wed, 04-28-2004, 02:27 PM
I doubt they will make a new Hokage anytime soon considering the only Ninja in the village who has mastered 1000 Justsu's is kakashi and like as been said before he was not even a match for Orochimaru who the 3rd could not defeat so i would say the 5th will be introuduced later or it will be somone less common
Neji-Aniki-sama
Wed, 04-28-2004, 02:59 PM
Hyuuga Hyashi. The Hyuuga are the strongest in Konoha.
Then again, if he considers the village his family and treats the people there like it...
Mut
Wed, 04-28-2004, 03:29 PM
kakashi is to lazy to be hokage.
Lenas
Wed, 04-28-2004, 03:42 PM
I'm going to agree with LostAngel on this one.
LostAngel
Wed, 04-28-2004, 08:38 PM
hehehe thanks lenas. Hey they have her in the opening. I just noticed it. They dont show what she looks like but near the end of the new opening theme, when Naruto is standing in front of Jiriaya whose red, Orchi whose purplish, and then a girl in Green its Tsunade!!! Now I know for a fact she is going to be the next hokage! *does a lil dance of joy*
I bet the part before that scene in the opening where theres the gambling machine the pig and a back of a person in 2 pony tails, I bet that is her too. I bet because each character has there own part in the opening thats hers. I wonder if the pig is hers? Heheh that would be so funny!!
Rek
Wed, 04-28-2004, 09:15 PM
yeah it would...
But also... the characters and their animal counterparts are kinda similar in nature, Ero-sennin is kinda froggy, Oro is mos def a snake...
Naruto is like Jiriaya, but I think he'll get another summon... maybe a giant fox? Who knows.
So, if she has the pig, she wouldn't be ...decent
Weshy
Wed, 04-28-2004, 11:19 PM
There is no way i could liken Naruto to act like a fox. maybe because he has the nine-tails in him fine. But not because he is smart, quick witted and stealthy.
Weshy.
Stoopider
Thu, 04-29-2004, 08:06 AM
Now that Itachi is back. Would he be the 5th Hokage??
Think about it.. He's damn strong. He has the sharingan!! I'm sure he'll be the 5th Hokage.
tommy salami
Thu, 04-29-2004, 08:17 AM
he is also pycho
basey44
Thu, 04-29-2004, 08:32 AM
lol itachi being the fifth hokage. dreaming
have u forgotten he slaughtered his entire clan apart form his brother?
Ugly Icon
Thu, 04-29-2004, 10:36 AM
I doubt that Itachi is from the Uchiha Clan. He only has one eye and cannot stop the sharingan hence it is covered all the time. Also notice the scar on the eye?
It's pretty clear he stole that eye.
lionheart1012000
Thu, 04-29-2004, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by: Ugly Icon
I doubt that Itachi is from the Uchiha Clan. He only has one eye and cannot stop the sharingan hence it is covered all the time. Also notice the scar on the eye?
It's pretty clear he stole that eye.
wtf!?! lol, are you high or something? or have you been living under a rock?
itachi IS from the uchiha clan. the one your refering to is kakashi.
Neji-Aniki-sama
Thu, 04-29-2004, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by: Stoopider
Now that Itachi is back. Would he be the 5th Hokage??
Think about it.. He's damn strong. He has the sharingan!! I'm sure he'll be the 5th Hokage.
Same prob as with Hyuuga Hiashi. Imagine if Itachi treats the whole village as family as an Hokage is supposed to???
Stoopider
Thu, 04-29-2004, 11:25 AM
Heheh Yeah. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif
Papa Hyuuga looks like a cool character to be Hokage. COnsidering Hyuuga is THE strongest clan in the Leaf. Remember that!
Neji-Aniki-sama
Thu, 04-29-2004, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by: Stoopider
Heheh Yeah. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif
Papa Hyuuga looks like a cool character to be Hokage. COnsidering Hyuuga is THE strongest clan in the Leaf. Remember that!
I suggested him for Hokage.
Yeah, he's cool, but a bastard at the same time. I have mixed feelings towards him.
Treating one daughter like crap and spoiling the other. I think Hinata is doing pretty all right, considering.
Hanabi has the makings of a little Sasuke, if you want to know my opinion.
Stęgan
Thu, 04-29-2004, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by: Stoopider
Now that Itachi is back. Would he be the 5th Hokage??
Think about it.. He's damn strong. He has the sharingan!! I'm sure he'll be the 5th Hokage.
i dont think so....he is a wanted s rank criminal
j00b
Thu, 04-29-2004, 04:10 PM
i am guessing that was a joke, but i am certain that they will not select somebody who slaughtered his whole clan as hokage.
Gods_Son
Thu, 04-29-2004, 04:16 PM
Most families with special abilities/bloodlines probably just worry about their own clans more than the entire village. They most likely wouldn't want to be hokage, and I don't think any of the previous hokage had any bloodline limits either. Itachi wouldn't even be offered now that he's a criminal.
DarthEnderX
Mon, 05-03-2004, 02:29 PM
But not because he is smart, quick witted and stealthy.
While I'll grant you that he's not stealthy, I must protest your implication that Naruto is neither smart nor quick witted, as he displays ample amounts of both when he's actually in battle. If you look back at most of his battles that he's really won in fact, you'll see that almost all of them are won through trickery. When he freed Kakashi using that deception with the windmill shuriken against Zabuza. Both of the times he uses deception to fool Kiba, which evens up the odds in that fight. And his final move against Neji was also a trick. And the clone disguises used against the clone guy in the forest.
In fact, despite the fact that he possesses alot of brute power, very rarely does that power actually allow him to win a fight on its own.
Neji-Aniki-sama
Mon, 05-03-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by: DarthEnder
But not because he is smart, quick witted and stealthy.
While I'll grant you that he's not stealthy, I must protest your implication that Naruto is neither smart nor quick witted,
Naruto is dense. He doesn't realize that:
a) Sakura does't like him and will never will be his gf. Which is a good thing and he should be thankful for.
b) Neither Sakura or Sasuke are really good friends of his. One think is annoying and the other is sulking because he figured out Naruto is stronger than him. While Naruto is training he is remembering his whining self and cussing. The only one who can watch clouds here is Shika. He's too smart to sulk.
c) Hinata is the girl for him. She loves him and values him. Besides being herself a very polite, considerate and wise girl, things that Naruto could learn with her.
Mut
Mon, 05-03-2004, 03:19 PM
naruto being dense about personal relationships has nothing to do with his ability to be a ninja. it's absurd to apply naruto's ability to realize his situation in personal relationships into his ability to fight in a battlefield. naruto isn't stealthy but sort of witty and somewhat of a quick thinker.
The_Fourth
Mon, 05-03-2004, 03:24 PM
I agree with you Neji-Aniki-sama that Hiashi is a good candidate for Hokage.
Gods_Son
Mon, 05-03-2004, 03:30 PM
Hiashi would be a lame Hokage, he doesn't even care about his daughter Hinata, I don't think he'd really give a shit about most of the village either. Naruto is a clever fighter, but he's not really smart in general. The only time he has been stealthy, is when he snuck up on his allies. That already shows that he's still just a little kid, and will need time to develop.
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