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Pvt Joker
Mon, 04-05-2004, 12:19 AM
Everything from AonE plays perfectly for me, but every time I try downloading and playing something from Bakasan, I get lots of artifacts and my player always crashes.

Does anyone else have this problem, and do you know what the cause is?

TIA

Lego
Mon, 04-05-2004, 01:37 AM
This is likely to open up a can of worms....

Munsu
Mon, 04-05-2004, 02:11 AM
why do people try to get bakasan's version... they always fuck you up... in my opinion with misstranslations on purpose and a torrent with a single seed so that people waste their time trying to get the episode

kage_bunshin
Wed, 04-07-2004, 01:35 AM
man this shit never stops does it....

well since i'm such a nice person, i'll explain it to you

anbu-aone episodes are encoded in divx

bakasan eps are encoded in xvid.

download the xvid codec at www.divx-digest.com/software/xvid.html (http://www.divx-digest.com/software/xvid.html)

and download the latest ffdshow at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=53761&package_id=59355

to be honest i've downloaded a few bakasan eps before and they aren't too bad if bakasan did all the work himself

Elessar
Wed, 04-07-2004, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by: kage_bunshin
man this shit never stops does it....

well since i'm such a nice person, i'll explain it to you

anbu-aone episodes are encoded in divx

bakasan eps are encoded in xvid.
mplayer naruto.ep.075.anbu-aone.avi
MPlayer 0.92-3.2.2 (C) 2000-2003 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel Celeron 2/Pentium III Tualatin (Family: 6, Stepping: 1)
Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes
CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE

Playing naruto.ep.075.anbu-aone.avi
AVI file format detected.
VIDEO: [DX50] 640x480 12bpp 23.98 fps 1157.7 kbps (141.3 kbyte/s)
Clip info:
Software: VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2066/release)
================================================== ========================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
MP3lib: init layer2&3 finished, tables done
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, 16 bit (0x10), ratio: 16000->192000 (128.0 kbit)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm:mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
================================================== ========================
vo: X11 running at 1152x864 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)
================================================== ========================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm:ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
================================================== ========================
Checking audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/16bit -> 48000Hz/2ch/16bit...
AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 2 ch, 48000 hz, little endian signed int
AF_pre: 48000Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)
AO: [oss] 48000Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian) (2 bps)
Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/16bit -> 48000Hz/2ch/16bit...
Starting playback...
<u>This file was encoded with XviD build 26</u>
VDec: vo config request - 640 x 480 (preferred csp: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [xv] 640x480 =&gt; 640x480 Planar YV12
Exiting... (Quit)

Yeah, AonE uses DivX *mumble mumble*
The only thing AonE does is use the DivX compatibility mode to fake a [DX50] header instead of [XVID] so that DivX codecs can play it (or recognize that they can). And AonE uses releases from the stable branch of XviD that can be replayed by most MPEG4 decoders, whereas others sometimes encode wtih the most actual XviD development snapshot.

The difference is the way the codec is used - and don't blame the codec for that. It's just the difference between a good and a bad encoder.

Pvt Joker
Thu, 04-08-2004, 03:51 PM
Even with the latest codecs installed, I still got tons of artifacts, until my player crashed.

So it's just a codec issue? I'll try to see if they play on a fresh install.

Although I prefer the AonE ones, it's nice to be able to see the Bakasan ones a couple of days before the AonE ones come out.

Thanks guys.

Elessar, How'd you pull that info? TIA.

Lego
Thu, 04-08-2004, 05:40 PM
This brings up a intresting question. I assume gotwoot is a arm of AonE. These forums are here so we can talk about release and etc.

But asking about another groups encoding methods, especially someone like bakasan on a forum where we do the same thing... i dunno.

kage_bunshin
Tue, 04-20-2004, 06:21 AM
<u>This file was encoded with XviD build 26</u>


Yeah, AonE uses DivX *mumble mumble*
The only thing AonE does is use the DivX compatibility mode to fake a [DX50] header instead of [XVID] so that DivX codecs can play it (or recognize that they can). And AonE uses releases from the stable branch of XviD that can be replayed by most MPEG4 decoders, whereas others sometimes encode wtih the most actual XviD development snapshot.

The difference is the way the codec is used - and don't blame the codec for that. It's just the difference between a good and a bad encoder.[/quote]

Oops my bad. haha

Thanks for correcting me

Wait actually, i checked the properties in the older eps, and it says its encoded in Divx

The recent anbu-aone eps starting from ep 53 i think say XviD though