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Sharingan 3y3
Thu, 04-01-2004, 06:02 PM
alright guys lemme kno what u think, out of all the jounins that have been introduced so far, who do u think is the strongest, list 3 of them in order of the strongest
me =
1.kakashi
2.gai
3.anko

Mut
Thu, 04-01-2004, 06:07 PM
if you count orochimaru and jiraiya, then they are the strongest. but if you don't, i think your list is accurate.

itachi_
Thu, 04-01-2004, 06:10 PM
I think:

Jiraya.
Itachi.
Orochimaru.

Gods_Son
Thu, 04-01-2004, 06:21 PM
Not including Oro and Jiraiya, for me it'd be Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma.

itachi_
Thu, 04-01-2004, 06:25 PM
KonohamaruCorps don't you think that Itachi could beat the ones you listed ? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Rek
Thu, 04-01-2004, 06:48 PM
Hm... Zabuza was pretty strong... Made Kakashi use the Sharingan... there was also another legendary ninja, but (s)he hasn't been formally introduced. I personally think (s)he is the Genin that was with Oro and Ero-sennin at the beggining. The blonde chick. Thats just a guess tho.

So My list (in order)-

Legendary-
Jiraiya
Oro

Konoha-
Kakashi
Gai
Zabazu (I know he isn't hidden leaf, but he's strong, and I didn't want to make a Hidden Mist for 1 character)

Gods_Son
Thu, 04-01-2004, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by: itachi_
KonohamaruCorps don't you think that Itachi could beat the ones you listed ? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

We're in the anime section, these people don't know about Itachi. I forgot Zabuza and Baki also, they're both probably stronger than Asuma.

Neji-Aniki-sama
Thu, 04-01-2004, 07:05 PM
Kabuto is a jerk, but he beat Kakashi. Well, at least, Kakashi wasn't able to get him.
Asuma is strong. He killed 9 Sound-nins just like that. I assume they were at jounin level.

I guess, all in all, Jiraya would be the answer.
There. I apologize.

Gods_Son
Thu, 04-01-2004, 07:12 PM
Kabuto being one of the stronger ones is probably true, even though he is technically a Genin. Also Jiraiya and Orochimaru aren't really Jounin, they're Sannin, which is above Jounin level. Otherwise, one them would be the obvious choice.

Sharingan 3y3
Thu, 04-01-2004, 07:34 PM
omg ppl cant u read right? i asked u to list the top thre strongest JOUNINS, not sannins and genins, godd...
and dont mention characters that are not even introduced, thanks and continued...

Neji-Aniki-sama
Thu, 04-01-2004, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by: Sharingan 3y3
omg ppl cant u read right? i asked u to list the top thre strongest JOUNINS, not sannins and genins, godd...
and dont mention characters that are not even introduced, thanks and continued...

Techically, Uchiha Itachi was already introduced, he's the brother of Uchiha Sasuke.
And, I believe Sennin is a title, not a rank.

Sharingan 3y3
Thu, 04-01-2004, 07:47 PM
uhm neji, i didnt mean itachi, because yea i kno he was introduced, and for the sennin or sannin , what ever they are (3 legendery ninjas) they are above jounin so they shouldnt be mentionedi/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

Neji-Aniki-sama
Thu, 04-01-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by: Sharingan 3y3
and for the sennin or sannin , what ever they are (3 legendery ninjas) they are above jounin so they shouldnt be mentionedi/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

There's a difference between sannin and sennin, and the whole jounin/sennin rank or title was already discussed, so I won't keep going into that.

lasaire
Thu, 04-01-2004, 08:29 PM
Sharingan 3y3, yet again please familiarize yourself more with the boards. Read the discussion under "Jiraiya's forehead protector" in open discussion to know the difference between sannin and sennin (and there is one.)

Gods_Son
Thu, 04-01-2004, 09:04 PM
Either way, I don't think he meant sennin or sannin to be included in the choosing. After reading the hierarchy thread and the forehead protector one he can decide if he wants to edit it in his orignal post, so that nobody chooses them.

khaodessy
Thu, 04-01-2004, 09:11 PM
jaraiya is still a juunin of the leaf like the rest of the 3. they just have the title of a sage which isnt a rank. but since oro isnt part of the leaf no more i would have to say the remaining two and gai and kakashi

Gods_Son
Thu, 04-01-2004, 09:20 PM
People seem to think now that we're only talking about Leaf Jounin now. I guess the maker of the thread needs to be more specific about who he wants included. If we're talking about Leaf Jounin (sages included) I'd go Jiraiya, Kakashi, and Gai then.

wirm
Fri, 04-02-2004, 12:33 AM
I suppose it makes sense that I would count Jiraiya and Orochimaru up at the top if we are including them. But I have no idea why everyone seems to think that Jiraiya is stronger than Oro. We've had no comparison between them so far except that Oro's sealing technique on Naruto's belly was rough. Aside from that, Sarutobi keeps saying how Oro was the genius that comes along every couple of decades. He never said anything about Jiraiya being any good.

I don't know anything about Itachi, because I just watch the anime, but are we sure he's a jounin? All we know is that he killed most of his family and has a Konoha headband.


For the ones who we absolutely know are jounin, I would guess Kakashi, Gai, and Anko. Kakashi is Konoha's #1 technique specialist. Gai is beating Kakashi in their sparring matches. And Orochimaru said that Anko is a special jounin. I'm guessing that's a good thing.

Then again, Ebisu is a "special jounin" and I'm not too impressed with him.

Superman
Fri, 04-02-2004, 12:39 AM
1) Gai
2) Hyuuga Hiashi
3) Kakashi

Gai is a huge ass beater. He has superior speed to Kakashi and is the village's taijutsu master.
Although we have never seen Hiashi fight, he is the Hyuuga heir and is a master of the Byakugan.
Kakashi is also a big ass beater. He looses a little in my rankings though because his sharingan is obviously not natural.

wirm
Fri, 04-02-2004, 12:41 AM
We actually have seen Hyuuga Hiashi fight once. He beat the #1 ninja from the Lightning country in one shot.

But the reason I didn't choose him is I don't know if he's a jounin. He doesn't have a Leaf headband anywhere.

Mut
Fri, 04-02-2004, 12:58 AM
gai or kakashi could take hiashi any day of the week. twice on sunday. hiashi is overrated.

raijin
Fri, 04-02-2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by: wirm
We actually have seen Hyuuga Hiashi fight once. He beat the #1 ninja from the Lightning country in one shot.

But the reason I didn't choose him is I don't know if he's a jounin. He doesn't have a Leaf headband anywhere.
Actually, the #1 ninja from the Lightning Country (Hidden Cloud Village) should be the Raikage. The ninja that Hiashi defeated was a "Shinobi Gashira (Kashira)" which translates into Shinobi Leader... he was most likely a representative of the Hidden Cloud Village.

In the Naruto Character Data Book, Hiashi is labeled as the Hyuuga Ke Toushu which means the Head of the Hyuuga Household. This is most likely a title within the Hyuuga Clan considering the Hyuuga is like a royal family within the Leaf. Hizashi, Neji's father and Hiashi's twin brother, was of the jounin rank... so, it can be assumed that Hiashi also achieved it.

j00b
Fri, 04-02-2004, 03:41 AM
The main reason that people are saying Kakashi is because they have seen a lot out of him. I think that it is a little bit early to make a decision considering that we have only seen them fight once or twice. We saw Asuma fight once in the episode where they stayed behind for the ambush. Similarly, we have only seen Gai fight briefly in the recent episodes.

itachi_
Fri, 04-02-2004, 04:33 AM
Look!

Jiraya, Orochimaru, Tsunande, all three are jounin rank, but their skill and such has become legendary so they're called "Sannin" but technically all three are Jounin. end of discussion.

Neji-Aniki-sama
Fri, 04-02-2004, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by: itachi_
Look!

Jiraya, Orochimaru, Tsunande, all three are jounin rank, but their skill and such has become legendary so they're called "Sannin" but technically all three are Jounin. end of discussion.

I tried to say it a while ago, but as the Japanese would say...muda da...
There are the following ranks, that we know so far:
Student, Genin, Chunnin, Jounin and Hokage.
There are different functions, Special Jounins, Anbu, Hunting-nin. And I assume they're all at a jounin level. There are academy teachers, and they're at a Chunnin level. I believe that's what we know so far.
Also there are missing-nin, but I am assuming you can run away from the village independent of your rank. Maybe you'd be hunted or not, but that's beside the point.
The way I see it, like huh in the Army, two soldiers can be at the same rank, but one have medals and the other doesn't. More or less, that is what happen with the Sennin title.
As for Sannin, I can think of huh, Jesse James. There were tons of robbers like him, but he became *legendary*. Sannin means three people... It's to say oh, *those* (famous) guys.
So, there's no other know rank those three can have. Above jounin, there's only Kage, and those guys ain't that.
As for choosing the strongest, maybe this guy should just have named the ones *he* thinks are strong and put it into a vote. If he wanted us to name who is the strongest jounin, it's Jiraiya, there's no argument about that, so far.
You cannot ask, who is the strongest Jounin and if the answer is not to your liking, you come and say, oh, but this guy is not a jounin...that's really lame.

Uchiha-Itachi
Fri, 04-02-2004, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by: itachi_
I think:

Jiraya.
Itachi.
Orochimaru.

good going mangareader.. -_- why the lame "i think" when you just copied the fact from the manga..

Shinji Ikari
Fri, 04-02-2004, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by: itachi_
Look!

Jiraya, Orochimaru, Tsunande, all three are jounin rank, but their skill and such has become legendary so they're called "Sannin" but technically all three are Jounin. end of discussion.


These guys, but i'd like to add Itachi. I don't know any of his strenght yet, but i do think he is one of the strongest.

But when/if Naruto become a Jounin, he will be the strongest.

Rek
Fri, 04-02-2004, 07:35 AM
K[].... Sennin means Hermit. (I hate making DBZ references, but it gets the point across) Remember Kame-Sennin, the Turtle Hermit, MASTA' ROSHI! (who also seemed to be a pervert... coincidence? I think not!!)


Superman... do you understand the trouble that Kakashi would have to go thru to get an ADVANCED bloodline technique? Holy Hell. I don't even want to think about it. He should be your favorite character ever for that reason. And now Wirm: Jiraya has been mentioned, and the fact that he took on that snake bitch so fast shows he = owned.

And With Naruto, if he becomes a Jounin they will just introduce a new clan/team/monster thing thats stronger than him. He can't be the strongest for more than 3 or so episodes, or else the story line would kinda be slow...

Saruto
Fri, 04-02-2004, 02:32 PM
I think that Gai is more powerful then kakashi seriously!...

gai
kakashi
anko

wirm
Fri, 04-02-2004, 05:29 PM
[quote]
Originally posted by: Konoha Rek


And now Wirm: Jiraya has been mentioned, and the fact that he took on that snake bitch so fast shows he = owned.

q]

Orochimaru wasn't the guy who summoned the snakes. I could understand if you're just saying that Jiraiya is strong. I definitely agree. The sand ninjas who summoned the snakes should be no match for the hermit.

But we've seen no indication that he's stronger than Orochimaru. In fact, the only time Sarutobi mentions his students, it's just to say that Orochimaru was the genius. He doesn't even mention Tsunande or Jiraiya

Mut
Fri, 04-02-2004, 05:45 PM
when was it ever stated that itachi became an actual jounin by achieving the title? i thought he only became a chuunin and then left the village for good.

EDIT: to post below...and are we all agreeing that anbu is a special rank that can be achieved by jounins? i thought it was just a separate rank by itself, not a branch off from the jounin rank and you become anbu before being able to become a jounin.

yes, i am being very technical about it. i thought we were just talking about jounins only.

itachi_
Fri, 04-02-2004, 05:59 PM
Dazz, he was an ANBU when he left the village.

Xollence
Fri, 04-02-2004, 06:14 PM
1.) Gai
2.) Kakashi
3.) Genma

PaD
Fri, 04-02-2004, 06:14 PM
Kakashi is good.
He has Sharingan eye...

KentoMaiku
Fri, 04-02-2004, 09:22 PM
this one i like kikashi better as a jounin any day

frexeze
Sat, 04-03-2004, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by: Saruto
I think that Gai is more powerful then kakashi seriously!...


but kakashi has cool modern attitude/responses

i/expressions/rolleye.gif

j00b
Sat, 04-03-2004, 04:57 AM
I am bored, so i apologize in advanced for the stupid comment that follows...if you don't want to see something incredibly lame and stupid, skip the rest of this immediately;read no further.

My favorite jounin is Mut@t@ (no reason it is specifically him...he was just the first jounin who was not named after a real one as i scrolled up)

sexy_no_jutsu
Sat, 04-03-2004, 06:08 AM
strongest jounin? as much as i hate to admit it, i think kakashi is the strongest. at least from the leaf village that is. or hyuuga hiashi...

Rek
Sat, 04-03-2004, 09:23 AM
the only reason I think Kakashi is better than Gai, is do you think that Kakashi ever really tries while fighting Gai? Or even in the stadium, he was busy telling Sakura what to do, and Gai only got 1 extra kill.

And Wirm... why would they introduce characters that arn't even there, (taking Tsunade out of the running) And why would he talk about Ero-Sennin while Oro is trying to kill him. If you were about to be shot in the head by your science teacher (as the are prone to do sometimes) would you be thinking about your math teacher? No, you'd be thinking about how this Science teacher is so damn good with a gun, that Annie Oakley was his bitch....

Gods_Son
Sat, 04-03-2004, 10:37 AM
Well we haven't see Gai fight seriously yet. So from what we've seen, it would be easier to assume that Kakashi is better right now. Not to mention Kakashi is cool, and Gai acts like an idiot all the time. JooB you should probably just edit out your post if you don't want people to read it, it's utterly pointless.

Stoopider
Sat, 04-03-2004, 11:05 AM
Gai is better.

He still wins Kakashi. 50 to 49.

Magnus
Mon, 04-05-2004, 12:33 PM
Nevermind. Impossible to tell so far.

gokudagreat
Mon, 04-05-2004, 02:49 PM
i dont think kakashi has ever used his full power, so im gonna go with him until naruto or sasuke become jounins

Kagari
Mon, 04-05-2004, 06:57 PM
Udon.

Haku no Fuyu
Mon, 04-05-2004, 07:13 PM
Me

Neji-Aniki-sama
Mon, 04-05-2004, 07:23 PM
Sakura

Knives122
Tue, 04-06-2004, 02:51 PM
please, sakura is by far the most useless character in the entire series to date, she would never beable to become a jounin

Haku no Fuyu
Tue, 04-06-2004, 03:19 PM
I think the strongest in GENJUTSU would be Kurenai.

BigMac
Tue, 04-06-2004, 03:28 PM
to all of u who're sayin there are no level above jounin besides bein a +kage.well ure wrong here's the link:http://www.narutoinfo.com/index.php?section=ninja%20guide&content=ninja%20ra nk%20guide

Gods_Son
Tue, 04-06-2004, 04:20 PM
You can post arguments on the hierarchy in Naruto in the Ninja Ranks thread, which is a couple pages down. Kakashi using genjutsu on Zabuza to copy his movements before he even did them was probably the most impressive genjutsu seen by a jounin in the anime. Haku no Fuyu, you might want to edit the spoilers from your post, Itachi_ was already banned for it. We haven't seen Kurenai fighting in the anime so far.

lasaire
Tue, 04-06-2004, 06:45 PM
For further discussion on ninja ranks you can also refer to the Jiraiya thread.

Haku no Fuyu, gomen but I edited your post about Kurenai to remove a spoiler.

Lithonite
Tue, 04-06-2004, 10:04 PM
one things i am little concerned about is how strength here in the Naruto universe is benig looked in the same way strength in the DBZ universe. fact of the matter strength in Naruto is relative to enemy skills/talents. Unless we are dealing with individuals on hokage lvl skill such and one of the 3, or Itachi.
and amoung thoose lvls certain skills again work better against the other. for instance i have no doubt that Oro could beat Jyraiya. but on the same note Oro cannot beat Itachi- and knows it. but i am pretty confident that Jyraiya could take Itachi. *REMOVING SPOILER*i am not going to say anyone jounin is stronger than the other, i will say some Jounin's Genjutsu abuility exceeds that of another, same with Taijutsu, and Ninjutsu; and rankings within there.

Gai- Strongest tiajutsu in the leaf
Kakashi- Strongest Ninjutsu ability, and arsenal
*REMOVED SPOILER*

and going on from there

someone earlier in the posting said somethin about the head of the noble houses. from what we saw interms of the hyuga family Odds are all of the family heads are Jounin lvl.


okay i gotta bet back to work but thought i would post somethig on this, pretty interesting things mentioned inthis topic.

Mut
Tue, 04-06-2004, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by: Haku no Fuyu
I think the strongest in GENJUTSU would be Kurenai.

isn't kurenai the jounin...

and this thread is spoiler filled. i'd remove like half of the posts if i can.

wirm
Wed, 04-07-2004, 06:57 PM
Why is everyone saying Itachi is so great? Lithonite even refers to him as nearly kage level.

We haven't even been introduced to his skill level yet. All we know is that he killed a bunch of people. I don't know about the rest of you who only watch the anime, but having everyone talk about how great Itachi is sure seems like spoiling to me.

Neji-Aniki-sama
Wed, 04-07-2004, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by: Knives122
please, sakura is by far the most useless character in the entire series to date, she would never beable to become a jounin

Do a search on Sakura and read the two posts before mine. Hope then, it will start to make sense...
Of course, I could be rude and say: no sh*t, Sherlock. But, by nature, I am a polite mild mannered person so I'd never say such a nasty thing.

NM
Wed, 04-07-2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by: Knives122
please, sakura is by far the most useless character in the entire series to date, she would never beable to become a jounin

Well, Sakura didn't pass the Chuunin exam so she would have to wait a year to take it again. She's an ok ninja. She's not the strongest but she does have the best ability to control her chakra. I think she has an okay shot at being a jounin. But as for the strongest jounin so far, I would go with Kakashi, since he has his Lightning Edge and over 1000 moves copied with his Sharingan.

Rek
Wed, 04-07-2004, 09:32 PM
Nah, I think Sakura will become an instructor at the acadamy... anyone who argues this is an arguer who obviously has the ability to post on this forum.

But what about Gaara's Jounin... he seems to be pretty strong... I think if he fights, it'll take Gai and Kakashi to own him.


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