Naruto 210 RAW Discussion ***SPOILERS***

[Hatake Kakashi]

Well the raw is out at Naruto Fan. This chapter is damn hilarious.

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SPOILERS BELOW

It's definetly Lee, and we get to go back to Leaf Village to see what is going on.

Oh and Lee does Drunken Boxing! At least he will next chapter.

EDIT: Just read the new rules thing...sorry about that.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Oh, thank the gods! Genma and Raido ain't dead!!!!
I'd personally kill that stupid brat if they died on account of him.
And I have to admit, Lee rocks!

[DeluxSkillz]

omg lmao hurry up inane this is gonna be too funny lee using drunken boxing that's how he'll manage to by pass his injuries lol

[HimizujinEternia]

I think this goes as one of my favorite chapters of all the manga. Kimimaro is so gonna get pwned now.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Isn't he too young to drink?

[DeluxSkillz]

ofcourse he's 13 years old or something lol kishimoto was really out of it when he thought up this chapter lol

[chaos4ever4]

isn't a 24 hour rule in effect?

edit: nvm. my bad. it's been a long week...

[makkura]

i think its safe to say that nobody saw that one coming

[DeluxSkillz]

nope go read the rules, no 24 hour rule but this topic could only be created by mod it says well that rule has been broken i guess. anyway i hope inane colors the last page of this chap

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

I saw it coming that he'd leave without permission...
And for what I understood, he actually did...

[sangai]

dude what a great chapter

i bet gai came running in after hearing that the surgery was good then lee opened the first gate and then opened the second gate (the heal gate) and was able to leave before gai could get there thats why he healed so fast. (if thats possible)

and left a message with the sake bottle that hes going to go and fight with the drunken boxing

probably the greatest fighting style

akira toriyama and kishimoto are fans of the drunken boxing "one bottle come on lee your such a lite wait"

[DeluxSkillz]

crying gai on the floor is hilarious, yeah leaving without permission is so lee, it was the same with training he wasn't allowed to go out of bed but he did

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Speaking of hospitals...where are Neji and Chouji?????
Come on... they *must* be safe!!!!!

[chaos4ever4]

oh, no... lee goes for the bottle! lol.

i guess that's his new ability for this arc

[DeluxSkillz]

no why would they be their they've said nothing about them being saved yet so either they are still flat on they back in the forest or something has happened to them that has yet to be revealed, my guess is they're still KO in the forest maybe more people have followed lee let's just keep reading on, ARGHHHH!! why does it take a week to get another chapter kishimoto is killing us lately i've really been sitting on the edge of my seat every time i read a new chapter cuz to me it's getting really interesting this arc

[Hotsuma]

OH SHIT. Lee's going to do fuckin drunk boxing?! OH man. Why does he get cooler and cooler everytime he fights?!

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

the only thing he needs now is a better haircut...heh, heh

[DeluxSkillz]

i guess secretly Lee is kishimoto's fav charachter and Gai is his close second cuz he's probably one of the coolest charachters introduced in the series so far

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

I just noticed... Not even in the hospital bed Genma left his toothpick...
Chee...'taku!

[sangai]

is that why hes making lee a drunk

lol

im even more excited about 211 and inanes chapter for 210 im dying to see what page they are planning on coloring

[PSJ]

hahahahahahah rock lee doing drunken boxing, nobody could see that one coming. and rock lee is 14.

[DeluxSkillz]

drunken style kicks as his power will probably rise dramatically, kimimaro is in for an ass whooping

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Lee is too serious of a guy... he needed something like that.
The good thing... he finally got his ninjutsu... the booze-no-jutsu
Maybe he'll make Neji smoke pot next... sure would make him nicer...

[DeluxSkillz]

what didn't you know this series is secretly full of drug addicts, naruto is on speed, sasuke does coke, oro eats shroomz, gaara is on lsd, jiraiya/sarutobi and kakashi smoke weed, kabuto is on heroine they're all bugged out

[sangai]

yeah toked up neji

chouji is poping uppers and downers , blues and yellow pills

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

I only believe that Sasuke is on cocaine...
If Gaara were on LSD, he'd have make love not war tattooed his forehead, not I love death...

[sangai]

alright this is getting off topic

anywho i think that being drunk will help lee takes some blows not from the sword
but his speed is reduced when doing the drunkin boxing but his movements are more fluid and he will dodge blows easier this is a hard battle to decide

but im gonna have to say that lee is gonna get messed up by kimimaro in lvl 2 form(can't wait to see that )

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Is Kimi healthy enough to get to level 2????ha!

[sangai]

well we saw him in bed activating it when he was getting annoyed with kabuto so i would believe that he is capable of using it

but i bet he will be dead after he activates his lvl 2 cursed seal

[hornetmike]

Man, awesome chapter. Finally this arc is really starting to get interesting. it was dying there for a moment. can't wait for the inane translation. and of course, the colored page. i definetely did not see this coming from lee. lee is braking the rules again by drinking. But on the bad side, it seems that he came on his own after all. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif guess that means maybe the others aren't getting rescued after all.

[L8r]

cool i love drunken boxing its so fun i/expressions/beer.gif i/expressions/beer.gif i/expressions/beer.gif i/expressions/beer.gif i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif ...... i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif
cant w8 for the translated one...

[sangai]

whats to say the tsunade won't send a team out with gai to retrieve him

cause you know gai is gonna go anyways so i could imagine that they might fine the other gennins

[Xceleration]

Drunken Lee will kick ass, his moves will be unpredictable, and he'll be able to do taijuutsu that is hard to counter. Kimimaro will get OWNED by LEE!

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Man, awesome chapter. Finally this arc is really starting to get interesting. it was dying there for a moment
Couldn't agree with you more.
Absolutely brillant way to solve all the operation/recovery controversy. *Nobody* saw the drunken boxing coming... is it a characteristic of this style? i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif
huh, if he saved Genma and Raido, he *certainly* will save Neji and Chouji. No way he won't. Would be the same than making Lee's operation a failure.

[DeluxSkillz]

rought translation SPOILERS ALERT

This was posted by Saquili on toriyamaworld's forums it is almost everything that happens



I know a bit of japanese. So I will try to summary and explain the conversation. BTW, this is my first time, so pls don't flame me.

Naruto told lee that kimimaro can produce bones to use for his attack and to be careful because he's strong. Naruto's face is seem with worry for lee, probably he wonders whether Lee can handle him or not.

Then Lee show a thumbs up pose and tell naruto to keep going and let him take care of kimimaro, and say that since naruto made a promise with sakura with his "nice guy(gai) pose", he has to keep it. Lee also told him that he will keep his promise to naruto by beating kimimaro.

Naruto proceed, and we see Tsunade back in hospital room with raidou and genma on bed talking.

Raidou and Genma explain to Tsunade about the guys who beat the crap out of him , and was surprised to find out that the coffing might contain sasuke. They tell Tsunade that a genin team might not be able to handle them, and ask her to send a Jounin team to reinforce them, but Tsunade tells them sending a jounin team as a reinforcement is impossible. I cannot translate the reason for this, coz too much kanji ( ; ; yes my japanese is not that great). But tsunade tells them not to worry, she'll think up something coz she's not dumb.

Then we see Gai coming in to the room and collapse. Tsunade ask him is something went wrong with his mission and if he's allright. Gai tell her that there's nothing wrong with his mission, he's tired coz he's running non-stop to konoha. He wanted to know about Lee's surgery, and Tsunade tells him that it went okay. Gai is crying from happiness from hearing the news, only to cry from worry coz a medic comes in and tell them that Lee has disappeared.

They went to Lee's room and speculate that Lee might went after the genin team, and in his hurry, he mistakenly taken Tsunade's sake bottle, which she left earlier there to see raidou and genma, instead of his medicine bottle. After hearing the sake word, Gai became extremely worried.

The scene went back to Lee fighting kimimaro. Kimimaro thinks that Lee is really good, and decide to go all out. But Lee stop him and ask him POLITELY (^^) for some time so he can drink his medicine( yes, lee did not know that he took the wrong bottle). He gulp it down and say that all medicines have weird taste.

We see gai explains to Tsunade that when Gai and Lee went celebrating for his success in mastering ura renge, Lee got drunk and trash the whole store into pieces(seriously, the picture of the store collapse is shown). (I was unable to understand some of gai's explanation as to why Lee got powerful when he's drunk)

The scene went back to Lee and we see Lee began to get drunk and blurt out some weird words(the exact words is like "What the F**k With you, HUH?", and Lee uses the drunken fist pose. Kimimaro wonders what kind of medicine he took.


That's it. I mostly understand what's going on in the sentences, but not all of them. Sorry fo the extreme details, this is my first time participating.


Cheers.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

So, the drunken boxing was sort of a mistake??? That's too much... LOL
BTW, arigatou gozaimasu for the translation Skillz-san.

[sangai]

thas great super drunk lee is super strong

LOL

[Everon]

Holy Shite. He knows Drunken? Even more crazy, he did it by accident????

I love drunken...hey whata know its friday night.

[DeluxSkillz]

yeah pretty damn funny this chap lee got drunk by mistake and becomes extremely powerful when he drinks

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

If I need to go to the Hospital, I want to go to Konoha's...an hospital where you can *accidentally* get sake can't possible be bad...Don't know about the food, but I certainly wouldn't complaint about the drinks...BTW, Gai took Lee to a bar? And Naruto can't drink? Age limit in Konoha is 14????

[DeluxSkillz]

gai is a lunatic that's probably why he let lee drink, after all what harm can it do they live a dangerous life they'll die eventually anyways

[Everon]

Originally posted by: Neji-Aniki-sama
If I need to go to the Hospital, I want to go to Konoha's...an hospital where you can *accidentally* get sake can't possible be bad...Don't know about the food, but I certainly wouldn't complaint about the drinks...BTW, Gai took Lee to a bar? And Naruto can't drink? Age limit in Konoha is 14????


Age limit? You kidding me, you can get beer out of vending machines in japan. VENDING MACHINES!!!!!


EDIT: Proof that I'm not Lying (http://wlc.csumb.edu/student.pages/vending.machines/vending.html)

[Haku no Fuyu]

I am HAPPY for the above post ^^

[DeluxSkillz]

omg so that explains the sick mind of the japanese people, when you can get beer at any age you probably got some six year olds runnin around wasted all the time

[Vagabond]

heh lets get bacck on topic.....

I think Kishimoto saved this arc in this chapter. The drunken boxing thing is ingenious. Not only does it enables Lee to fight on par with it kimimaro but the alcohol probably helps him tolerate his injuries. Good job. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

I'd kinda guess that, the strict way kids are raised in Japan, they won't drink on their own, even if nobody is looking. Besides, they're all freaked out with getting good grades at school, and have around 2,000 kanji to learn at that age... Then again, I'd have to be drunk to start understanding kanji, but it's just me...

[DeluxSkillz]

yep he'll probably collapse after the battle and then he'll be on medication for a while and then he'll be fully healed

[Hatake Kakashi]

He will most likely use a combination of Drunken Boxing and the Drunken Fist Kungfu technique. Both are highly unpredictable, normally this wouldn't be a big deal, but in the hands of someone as skilled as Rock Lee, it will yield some great results.

[Jman]

211-212 would be so great when they come out.
Damn, the waiting period sucks.

[sangai]

for sure i can't wait to read those hell i bet the next ten chapters

[Everon]

Originally posted by: Hatake Kakashi
He will most likely use a combination of Drunken Boxing and the Drunken Fist Kungfu technique. Both are highly unpredictable, normally this wouldn't be a big deal, but in the hands of someone as skilled as Rock Lee, it will yield some great results.
^^ drunken boxing and drunken fist Gung fu are one and the same.

[Haku no Fuyu]

Rock *hic* Lee *hic* ROCKS more then I thought...

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Rocky on the rocks... hrrrrr, that was baaad.i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gifi/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Xceleration]

One thing is for sure, Lee can't drink much alchohol, he drank a tiny bottle, and got drunk. The fact that it was all an accident makes it even more hilarious! LOL

[xtort]

That tiny bottle looked big enough to hold about 8-10 shots. Sake can be anywhere in strength from very light beer, 4% alcohol, to very strong vodka or stronger (60%+). 10 shots of vodka would drop any 14 year old that _I_ know.

I've really liked the past several issues. That's probably because my three fav characters, Naruto, Shika, and Lee, were in them. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif The arc has returned from the gaping chasm of utter predictability to the wacky, zany mess that it was in the beginning, which I love. As much as this is an "action" genre manga and anime, it's also a comedy. Where would this be w/o Sasuke and Naruto locking lips in the beginning, all the interplay between "Fuzzy Eyebrows" and Sakura, who spurns his affections, and Come Come Paradise? I'm glad to see Kishimoto remembered what made his series endearing in the first place.

-xtortout

[gaara]

ever heard of drunken style marital arts??? lee is the sort of character that pays homage to the kung fu stars of cinema.

[Jman]

Originally posted by: Everon
[quote]
Originally posted by: Neji-Aniki-sama
If I need to go to the Hospital, I want to go to Konoha's...an hospital where you can *accidentally* get sake can't possible be bad...Don't know about the food, but I certainly wouldn't complaint about the drinks...BTW, Gai took Lee to a bar? And Naruto can't drink? Age limit in Konoha is 14????

Lol if it were real and here in the US, social services would've paid Gai sensei a little visit i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

America: the place for dry-counties and drive-in liquor stores...

[chaos4ever4]

LMAO!! Kudos to Kishimoto for really laying on the surprise with this chapter. I'm sure he had really enjoyed making this chapter for Ss and Gs<g>

God _damn_. drunken boxing by accident.. This is going to get really good <bg>

You know, i'm starting to think that gumabunta (sp) might make Lee his master instead of Naruto, since Lee's more "willing" to drink <vbg>

[jonny-mt]

Oh, wow, that was amazing! And it actually works! One of the things left out of the translation was the part where Lee was fighting Kimimaro the first time...he talks about how none of his kicks are landing, and Kimimaro tells him he's coming on too straight. Looks like the sake's going to fix that one!

Overall, though, the translation above pretty much gets it all in the bag. Tsunade's reasoning for not sending a Jounin team is that right now Konoha is losing it's power as a large country, and in order to uproot (she actually uses this word) potential threats from within and outside of the country, they are mobilizing the Jounin and Chuunin. One of the Jounins (not the guy with the toothpick) says that maybe they should go after Orochimaru as part of that threat; Tsunade responds that if you think about it carefully, they already are.

As for the surgery, the only thing missing is that Tsunade says Lee needs a day of rest, so he can start tomorrow.

The stuff he's missing from Guy's conversation is pretty trivial; Lee accidentally mistook a glass of 'Ochoko' sake (probably chocolate flavored) for water and then proceeded to trash the place; Guy laments saying "If I had noticed...."

Oh, and age limit in Konoha is 20; we know because Naruto talks about it when Jiraiya gives him the guidelines for being a "proper ninja", including not chasing after women and not drinking sake...Naruto says something along the lines of "I'm not even 20 yet, so what does that matter?!"

Overall a hilarious chapter! I'm sure Lee's going to run into some problems after not resting like he should have, but the drunken boxing (which Guy says he is incredible at) is going to be way too much fun to watch. I also love how Lee's speech changed completely after a sip of sake! He goes from polite-form addressing and apologizing to his opponent with utmost respect to slurring his words and using rough slang and dialect. Brilliant!

[sangai]

well what kishimoto is doing right now is hes trying to create humor and personally that just isn't working for me at the moment

really i feel that the seriousness should be kept up at the moment,

ahhh im dying to read inanes

[Jman]

inane might also be preparing a joke chapter that feeds off the alcohol incident

[chaos4ever4]

so, Lee _does_ have a dark side!

[Noonan]

The only thing that bugs me is the timing - do they have anything like april fools day in japan? since next weeks chapter will be published 4/1 or 4/2 ?

Still - great chapter - I'm looking forward to seeing it cleaned up and scanlated...

[Gods_Son]

I don't think there's a japanese april fools. I lived there for five years, and there are vending machines at like every corner (in Tokyo). There are soda machines, cigarette vending machines, and alcohol vending machines, and in some side alley you can maybe find a porno vending machine. The alochol problems in Japan are less than here, for those wondering. I'm not sure if it's a joke or not, but drunken boxing is pretty badass anyways, I just don't think it was right the time for that.

[Saruto]

WHY THE 210 MANGA OF NARUTO ON NARUTOFAN IS IN JAPANESE DAMN?!?!?!

where could i read it in english?

[Aion]

It is the raw, you have to wait until inane translates it.

[Saruto]

Originally posted by: Aion
It is the raw, you have to wait until inane translates it.

Ok thanks!

and when he will translate it?

[Gods_Son]

Originally posted by: Saruto


Originally posted by: Aion
It is the raw, you have to wait until inane translates it.

Ok thanks!

and when he will translate it?

Since you're Canadian I'll be nice, just wait patiently and it should be released within 24 hrs.

[khaodessy]

one thing can be for sure win or lose lee might end up back at the hospital

[Mut]

what a disappointing chapter.

couldn't they have shown us something better than explaining what happened to lee, it's obvious.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Hey, at least we know what is kind of going on in Konoha. It's not just a dozen shinobi running through the woods. A lot was revealed this chapter, Genma and Raidou are ok. Lee's surgery was a success. The Jounin are still out doing a lot of missions, etc..

Next chapter is gonna rock, but I have a feeling Kimimaro will go Level 2 cursed seal to hang with Lee in Drunken Boxing mode. Then Lee will have to use the Lotus, keeping in line with the suicide attack stuff..

yeah

[makkura]

what a disappointing chapter

can you do anything else beside complaining ?
every week you bitch because the chapter is not up to your sky high expectations.

[SkyDragon]

Originally posted by: dazzz
what a disappointing chapter.

couldn't they have shown us something better than explaining what happened to lee, it's obvious.
So you knew Lee accidentally took a ALcholol instead of medicine and that he already had the surgery and about the power he gets from alcholol? I don't think it was obviousl

Good chapter.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

[quote]
Originally posted by: jonny-mt
The stuff he's missing from Guy's conversation is pretty trivial; Lee accidentally mistook a glass of 'Ochoko' sake (probably chocolate flavored) for water and then proceeded to trash the place; Guy laments saying "If I had noticed...."

Oh, and age limit in Konoha is 20; we know because Naruto talks about it when Jiraiya gives him the guidelines for being a "proper ninja", including not chasing after women and not drinking sake...Naruto says something along the lines of "I'm not even 20 yet, so what does that matter?!"


Huh, so Gai didn't teach *purposefully* a bad thing to Lee... Makes more sense now.
And who is Jiraiya, anyways, to lecture Naruto on being a proper ninja? He does both...damn the Hokage drinks sake now...
And... Kimi gives Lee advice on fighting? Huh, such a classy character. I am starting to like him more at every chapter... Too bad he's with Oro. That snake has no class at all.
In any case... all the drunken affair was great. Surprising, funny and brilliant.

[khaodessy]

i think lee is going to show more fighting styles he knows then opening up the gates. because i doubt he going to sober up and be like i should open up a few gates. i thnk he might have another fighting style or wouldnt it be cool if he did neji fighting style. ya he would the byakugen to use it to its fullest but all he would need is to push his charka into there body to do internal damage not do all the other stuff. or he could mix the two together. he fought neji enough to get a good ideal on how his style is.

[chaos4ever4]

imo, i think it's really good buildup. it's the execution that has me worried. lately, it hasn't been all that good, and i have pretty high expectations, since lee's back.

[Vagabond]

Can anyone read the name of the next chapter? I'm just wondering if it will focus on lee and kimimaro or if the focus will go back to shika.

[Everon]

Ok letme try to recap whats going on first ^^

Neji: Holed and presumed dead
Choji: Skinny and presumed loose skin
Kiba: Suicide, jumped into water to let wounds bleed out.
Shikamaru: In a bind, literally.
Naruto: Chasing down Sasuke
Sasuke: Running away from his problems...again
Lee: Miller-time.
Sakura: useless...still.

Yeah looks like they're going to go back to Shika, since most of the other character's fighting has been completed. Of course, if kishimoto wants to draw out the mission even longer he'll throw in some more Genin appearances.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Originally posted by: Everon
Ok letme try to recap whats going on first ^^


Sakura: useless...still.



1. When did Sakura got in this particular picture?
2. That goes without saying.
3. as for the still...how many chapters does this manga have so far?i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Chi Chi]

Originally posted by: Neji-Aniki-sama


Originally posted by: Everon
Ok letme try to recap whats going on first ^^


Sakura: useless...still.



1. When did Sakura got in this particular picture?
2. That goes without saying.
3. as for the still...how many chapters does this manga have so far?i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif
210

[Himura_san]

Originally posted by: dazzz
what a disappointing chapter.

couldn't they have shown us something better than explaining what happened to lee, it's obvious.

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

seriously, it may be obvious to you but I thought the chapter cleared up some of my questions.
For one, now it seems that Lee has done the surgery, I personally felt that he took of before just
because of his nature of doing these things.
Also I liked the added humor of the whole accidently getting drunk, the current arc
needed to lighten up, it was getting way too dark for Naruto standards.
I think Kishimoto is doing a fine job.

i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[sangai]

sho for sure this chapter was great and i liked seeing whats going on in konoha but hte current arc should have been kept going on with the fight now kishimoto is really starting to draw this out a lil bit to much i guess im dying to see te fight seen with kimimaru and lee and the sasuke and naruto conclusion and id really like to see the end of shikas fight he should have ended these fightst before showing whats going on in konoha but what do i know im not a writer

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

this might be a bit off-topic, but...
Sangai, I take you're a fan of e.e.cummings...

[JusDaMan]

LOL! CHAPTER 82!!! EXPLAINS HIM DOING DRUNKEN FIST! opening page..

"I'm sorry gai sensei... I can't learn drunken fist until im 21" HAahahaha Guess he lied!

[Tsukiyomi]

WOW for some reason every technique lee knows has some time of side affect. If anyone has seen Drunken Master after the drinking he has one hell of a hang over so lee's in for a bad morning. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Hatake Kakashi]

I think after this fight, Lee is going to depend on the alchol too much and become an alcholic. He will be sleeping everynight on the bench Sakura was laying on and covered in newspapers.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

He will be calling Sakura at 3AM and hanging up without saying a word.

[Kalean]

Originally posted by: dazzz
read these facts:
-------
1. i am never wrong.
2. itachi is the strongest character introduced and alive so far.
3. if you think naruto is the most powerful character, then you are stupid and wrong. potential and current available strength are two different things.
4. dbz and naruto share similiarities. duh.

For the sake of argument, let's take #2.
The ninetails is both still alive, and stronger than Itachi.
Itachi and Kisame freely admitted Jiraiya might be stronger than them. Than BOTH of them.
According to the Third Hokage, the Hyuuga were the strongest in the leaf, so Hiashi Hyuuga (Hizashi is the one that died, correct me if I'm wrong) is possibly stronger than Itachi.
Are we forgetting that both Shusaku and Gamabunta are very much alive?

That said, let's go to #3.
Naruto has the largest amount of raw unadulterated Chakra of any character introduced thus far, which might be taken as meaning he is the most powerful, despite his overall lack of skill. (Fear the creativity though. Fear the creativity.) Since the Kyuubi is sealed into Naruto, either the Kyuubi is considered a separate entity and thus stronger than Itachi on its own, proving point #2 incorect, or the Kyuubi is now considered a part of Naruto, thus giving him UNDENIABLY more raw power than anyone else, and, depending on your definition of the word powerful itself, debatably making him the most powerful character. Then again, Gohan was debatably the most powerful character in Dragonball Z, but noone gives a damn, so that's not saying much necessarily.

That all said, it looks like you were wrong 3 times out of 4 in that signature, on account of the two aforementioned examples, and the fact that point #1 is incorrect if you were wrong on either of the other two points. So, in conclusion, I have derailed this thread's collective train of thought. So there.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Originally posted by: Kalean
[quote]
[i]That all said, it looks like you were wrong 3 times out of 4 in that signature, on account of the two aforementioned examples, and the fact that point #1 is incorrect if you were wrong on either of the other two points. So, in conclusion, I have derailed this thread's collective train of thought. So there.

Huh, I kinda like that...

[Assertn]

thats amusing how he always ends up doing technique's that is bad for him
if he ends up opening more than maybe 1 or 2 gates though against kimimaro.....then that would be stupid.....it would get old way too fast for someone to rely on opening their gates every time they encounter an opponent, and lee surely injures himself whenever he does that, so then the readers get pissed when he ends up hospitalized again

edit: oh, and one thing that bugs me....is in chapter 173 pg 5 tsunade says "Even if it is successful, he must endure extensive rehabilitation"

now, unless her idea of extensive is 1 day of rest, then having lee recover so quickly is a pretty big mistake for kishimoto....or maybe for the translators......but the fact that the operation not only succeeded, but that he could move about in like, not even a few hours afterwards is kinda BS

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
thats amusing how he always ends up doing technique's that is bad for him
if he ends up opening more than maybe 1 or 2 gates though against kimimaro.....then that would be stupid.....it would get old way too fast for someone to rely on opening their gates every time they encounter an opponent, and lee surely injures himself whenever he does that, so then the readers get pissed when he ends up hospitalized again

edit: oh, and one thing that bugs me....is in chapter 173 pg 5 tsunade says "Even if it is successful, he must endure extensive rehabilitation"

now, unless her idea of extensive is 1 day of rest, then having lee recover so quickly is a pretty big mistake for kishimoto....or maybe for the translators......but the fact that the operation not only succeeded, but that he could move about in like, not even a few hours afterwards is kinda BS

Huh. I think this time he's going to win. So far, he's never won an actual fight, except with Sasuke, but that wasn't too much of a real fight. And *always* wound up damaged. I think for once, he has to win now.
One can say, due to his training, he is in excellent physical shape. Probably that should have helped in making the recovery quicker.
More important, though, drunken boxing is his *real* style. He's been getting hammered so fair because he haven't been able to use it. The sober style, as Kimi remarked, doesn't work for him, so, I am guessing things are going to go smoother for him from now on. I would say that the only thing that will get damaged is his liver....

[itachi_]

Haven't read your posts at all, but hmm when is inanes chapter out...? have they dropped it?

[Death BOO Z]

I'm going against the flow when i'm saying this, but i think this chapter was

S-T-U-P-I-D

Drunknen style fist? in the middle of this battle? has kishimoto lost his mind? or was it just his writing skills?
Lee wasn't supposed to be well for a few months, Tsunde said it'll be a long operationa and a huge rehablitation, she said that after seeing Lee's condition and knowing his perssonality. half a day surgery plus one day off is less than a cosmetic surgery, i think ultra-sound tests take the same amount of time.

NOT A SPINE SURGEY!


Kishimoto just sent his manga ever into deeper shit, is he trying to lose fans? first by making the sound four so weak, after that having Kimimaru look so bad ("look, i have bones! check out my bones!"), then bringing in Lee to a certien death situation (Kimi Vs Lee would be Kimi wins, due to his ownage or due to the fact lee shouldn't be able to move), and now rescuing him from it with the most retarted idea ever ("look, i'm doing the Jet-Li thing in Shangai Gladiator, i'm drunk so i can win!").

man, i hope it's somekind of april fools chapter.... i could stand Lee dying in glory flash of opening the death gate to win against Kimimaru, but killing off Lee's coolness? what's wrong with this world!
i could handle Genma + Raidou coming to help and scaring off Kimimaru (it'd still be retarted, but no this much), i could even stand Jiriya and Kakashi coming around to kill Kimimaru.

BUT THIS?

it looks like Kishimoto is trying his best to ruin the manga, even another one on one fight chapter of Kiba would be better...



Dear manga god in heavens, give Kishimoto back his mind, he really needs it...

[Nine Tailed Demon]

Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
I'm going against the flow when i'm saying this, but i think this chapter was

S-T-U-P-I-D

Drunknen style fist? in the middle of this battle? has kishimoto lost his mind? or was it just his writing skills?
Lee wasn't supposed to be well for a few months, Tsunde said it'll be a long operationa and a huge rehablitation, she said that after seeing Lee's condition and knowing his perssonality. half a day surgery plus one day off is less than a cosmetic surgery, i think ultra-sound tests take the same amount of time.

NOT A SPINE SURGEY!


Kishimoto just sent his manga ever into deeper shit, is he trying to lose fans? first by making the sound four so weak, after that having Kimimaru look so bad ("look, i have bones! check out my bones!"), then bringing in Lee to a certien death situation (Kimi Vs Lee would be Kimi wins, due to his ownage or due to the fact lee shouldn't be able to move), and now rescuing him from it with the most retarted idea ever ("look, i'm doing the Jet-Li thing in Shangai Gladiator, i'm drunk so i can win!").

man, i hope it's somekind of april fools chapter.... i could stand Lee dying in glory flash of opening the death gate to win against Kimimaru, but killing off Lee's coolness? what's wrong with this world!
i could handle Genma + Raidou coming to help and scaring off Kimimaru (it'd still be retarted, but no this much), i could even stand Jiriya and Kakashi coming around to kill Kimimaru.

BUT THIS?

it looks like Kishimoto is trying his best to ruin the manga, even another one on one fight chapter of Kiba would be better...



Dear manga god in heavens, give Kishimoto back his mind, he really needs it...


It's not a spine surgery his left arm and leg was crushed. I do agree Lee coming back was wrong, I for one was hoping he would die in the operation or just wouldn't fight again. Drunken style from a 14 yr old....Kishimoto becoming the Japanese George Lucas?

[Death BOO Z]

his leg and hand are both probably already healed, the problem was with the bone shards that got stuck in his spine...


Lee can only die now to keep kishimoto's dignity intact, and nobody wants to see that happen

[Nine Tailed Demon]

I do!

[Himura_san]

Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
his leg and hand are both probably already healed, the problem was with the bone shards that got stuck in his spine...


Lee can only die now to keep kishimoto's dignity intact, and nobody wants to see that happen

I believe Lee might actually die as much as I hate to say it or he might be near death. I liked what Kishimoto did, the story was starting to take itself to seriously and since Naruto is also a comedy we needed the humor factor that had been missing for a while.
Also to all the Lee haters Pha-Q!!
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[xtort]

For the past three posts, I've ended up deleting what I wrote because it was a bit too strong, and I didn't want it to come off that way. Same with this post.

Really, it's a story. I think Kishimoto realized that the story lost the levity that separated it from other action manga, and also realized that Fuzzy Brows was part of it. I'm glad:

- Lee is back
- this chapter was great
- Kimimaro is going to get his ass handed to him:
- On a plate.
- With Grey Poupon.

I mean jeez, he gave the cool guy thumbs up. What else can you ask for?

-xtortout

[Haku no Fuyu]

*Sparkly teeth*

[Jman]

Originally posted by: Haku no Fuyu
*Sparkly teeth*

yes, not complete without a Colgate smile

[Evil Eyes]

I think it was a nice chapter.
I read a translated one and one part of it got my attention.
When one of the two jounins tell Tsunade that Oro's problem is not a problem that can wait until later, Tsunade says that she already have thought about it and have done something. She said that with a smirk. btw, nice boobs pic.
What do u guys think she did? I'm quite curious to know.

[Gods_Son]

Originally posted by: Evil Eyes
I think it was a nice chapter.
I read a translated one and one part of it got my attention.
When one of the two jounins tell Tsunade that Oro's problem is not a problem that can wait until later, Tsunade says that she already have thought about it and have done something. She said that with a smirk. btw, nice boobs pic.
What do u guys think she did? I'm quite curious to know.

maybe she sent Kakashi or someone else over there

[MightyDustLoop]

Probably got hold of Juraiya.

[Mut]

kishimoto is throwing too much crap in the storyline now. cmon, it's just getting stretched out too much rather than concluding the 50 others fights that are happening/have happened.

and someone was bitching about me bitching. well, how ironic.

[Himura_san]

Originally posted by: dazzz
and someone was bitching about me bitching. well, how ironic.

Yeah you seem to be bitching alot! LOL!
Rough weekend! neh? i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Gods_Son]

I don't really care about his weekend, I think he's right about the storyline right now. There's too much going on, and the fights are losing their appeal, especially now with this drunken boxing shit.

[Nine Tailed Demon]

I wanted Lee to die....

[Raven]

Originally posted by: Kalean
For the sake of argument, let's take #2.
The ninetails is both still alive, and stronger than Itachi.
Itachi and Kisame freely admitted Jiraiya might be stronger than them. Than BOTH of them.
According to the Third Hokage, the Hyuuga were the strongest in the leaf, so Hiashi Hyuuga (Hizashi is the one that died, correct me if I'm wrong) is possibly stronger than Itachi.
Are we forgetting that both Shusaku and Gamabunta are very much alive?

That said, let's go to #3.
Naruto has the largest amount of raw unadulterated Chakra of any character introduced thus far, which might be taken as meaning he is the most powerful, despite his overall lack of skill. (Fear the creativity though. Fear the creativity.) Since the Kyuubi is sealed into Naruto, either the Kyuubi is considered a separate entity and thus stronger than Itachi on its own, proving point #2 incorect, or the Kyuubi is now considered a part of Naruto, thus giving him UNDENIABLY more raw power than anyone else, and, depending on your definition of the word powerful itself, debatably making him the most powerful character. Then again, Gohan was debatably the most powerful character in Dragonball Z, but noone gives a damn, so that's not saying much necessarily.

That all said, it looks like you were wrong 3 times out of 4 in that signature, on account of the two aforementioned examples, and the fact that point #1 is incorrect if you were wrong on either of the other two points. So, in conclusion, I have derailed this thread's collective train of thought. So there.
Judging by the fact that you only recently joined, you most likely don't know any better, but I believe that quote was written in context. You have to have been part of the conversation in which that sig was created for it to make sense. I know what it means because I was there.
We weren't talking about summons. Btw, if you want to discuss Itachi, there's a whole other thread just for that. Stay on topic here thanks.

[sangai]

ergo and visa vi

seriously certain aspects are becoming drawn out but this is do to the fact that kishimoto knows the longer he draws out his manga the more money he gets

or he already has all of it drawn out and is just how it is

or like akira toriyama he's running out of idea's and where gonna end up with something like db gt "biggest piece of shit ever" pray that this is not the case

i love kishimotos work and will watch and read patiently as he releases the manga and episodes even if it takes the course of four years

[Hyuga Koji]

Originally posted by: sangai sakusei

or like akira toriyama he's running out of idea's and where gonna end up with something like db gt "biggest piece of shit ever" pray that this is not the case



Toriyama had pretty much nothing to do with Gt outside of some character designs that was all Toei.

Toriyama wanted to end the series at Frieza where the story made the most sense but was convinced/forced to go on to make the Cell Saga (good but convoluted) and the Buu Saga (annoying) by the fans and Toei.

I say let Kishimoto do what he wants i find the product is better if left to the artist's vision.

[sangai]

i know he had nothing more to do with gt but like you said he helped with the character design (but he could have said no)

"wish he had an autobiography"

but by far buu was my favorite villin and to be honest he had originally planned 7 forms of supersaiyan

ssj 4 was not one of his he loved the gold hair

i love kishimotos work but hes just stretching it

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Kalean
For the sake of argument, let's take #2.
The ninetails is both still alive, and stronger than Itachi.
Itachi and Kisame freely admitted Jiraiya might be stronger than them. Than BOTH of them.
According to the Third Hokage, the Hyuuga were the strongest in the leaf, so Hiashi Hyuuga (Hizashi is the one that died, correct me if I'm wrong) is possibly stronger than Itachi.
Are we forgetting that both Shusaku and Gamabunta are very much alive?

That said, let's go to #3.
Naruto has the largest amount of raw unadulterated Chakra of any character introduced thus far, which might be taken as meaning he is the most powerful, despite his overall lack of skill. (Fear the creativity though. Fear the creativity.) Since the Kyuubi is sealed into Naruto, either the Kyuubi is considered a separate entity and thus stronger than Itachi on its own, proving point #2 incorect, or the Kyuubi is now considered a part of Naruto, thus giving him UNDENIABLY more raw power than anyone else, and, depending on your definition of the word powerful itself, debatably making him the most powerful character. Then again, Gohan was debatably the most powerful character in Dragonball Z, but noone gives a damn, so that's not saying much necessarily.

That all said, it looks like you were wrong 3 times out of 4 in that signature, on account of the two aforementioned examples, and the fact that point #1 is incorrect if you were wrong on either of the other two points. So, in conclusion, I have derailed this thread's collective train of thought. So there.
you should read the uchiha itachi discussion thread, all 4000 pages of it, and every other thread (since it looks like every discussion ends up talking about itachi) at least 3 times over and then you can represent your 'arguments' to me.

but nevermind...

i think the alcohol will play a crucial part in lee coming to the rescue and fighting kimimaro. lee probably won't be feeling pain since alcohol will numb him up....so i guess he'll be fighting without feeling pain which makes him super super super strong...?

[Uzumaki Naruto]

nioce chapt rock lee is the man, hope he owns kimimaros ass with his drukin boxing

[Death BOO Z]

There are two things that annoy me in this "plot advancement", actually, there are much more, but there are two main things:

A. Kishimoto spent two chapters on gathering the Konoha five and explaining how they would work and move, and now those two chapter mean shit, since a new good guy moved in. I could stand Kimimaru coming becuase it evened things out and made it possible for Naruto to seperate from Shikamaru, so he could face-off Sasuke later on, but Lee doesn't mean anything here, he just wastes a well built charecter (himself, if he dies) or a well foreshadowed charecter (Kimi, i lee wins)...

B. Lee's entire concept is based on hard work, swaeting and jerking blood to acheive his goals, the drunken fist is equivvalent for him having suddenly learned ninjutsu or giving him a bloodline ability, it's butchering of his charecter...

[PSJ]

i dont think its unfair for lee to have some kind of talent, if it is the drunken boxing that is his talent so be it, everybody is good at something. and lee wouldnt be able to fight equally with kimimaro(if he can do even that) if he didnt do all his training, since the drunken boxing still is taijutsu just another form. and getting lee back here was to even out the numbers since kishimoto probably planned sasuke to break out of the barrel and naruto to chase him so we finally can get the big battle between those 2. however if they dont fight each other after all this kishimoto has dragged this show down a bit.

[sangai]

well for some reason i either see naruto killing sasuke and then never returning to the leaf or half way killing him and draging his sorry as back to the leaf

and then what sasuke is under constant watch so you know naruto isn't gonna be able to bring him back to the leaf

i also see sasuke setting up traps in order to stop naruto, one being big enough to heavly harm naruto allowing for one of thee strongest kyuubi fights we have seen sasuke will get beat down so badly by kyuubi naruto that he will be still even with these powers i am nothing

or he will find out that naruto possess the chakra of kyuubi like kyuubi will say

"fool the reason why you are so inferior is because this chakra you feel is mine, kyuubis, i have been sealed in this damn body. blah blah blah"

something like that

maybe im just dreamin but id like to see more geenins of the leaf know about he kyuubi within naruto

[Lys]

I doubt Lee's new "technique" will become something he can commonly fall back onif he really gets as destructive as Gai's flashback leads us to believe, this style of fighting is way too uncontrolable to be used in most situations. Plus it's unhealthy. Therefore, I would say it's not a "butchering of his character." I thought this chapter was wonderful and fun (naturally, I'm a Lee fangirl after all) and I loved the reintroduction of humour to the series ... even if it did spoil the "mood" that's been developing in previous chapters. Lighten up, people!

[AlbinoFury]

inane is still waiting on a high quality raw, so it may be a long narutoless weeki/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

[hiten mitsurugi]

The past two chapters have been great. I called it in the topic "Other nins." Rock Lee rocks. The reason why Kishimoto added the drunken boxing (fist), is because this will give Lee the ability to defeat Kimimaro, especially since their was such a buildup of Kimimaro's power. Don't foreget how Rock Lee mopped the floor with Sasuke and Naruto. Rock Lee can definitely beat Kimimaro.

On another note, Kiba mentioned they. So far, we've only seen Rock Lee. I believe that Hinata and maybe even Shino are there. I bet shino is going to save Shika or maybe Kiba.

[Mut]

lee beat up sasuke and naruto when they sucked. sasuke or naruto would stomp the hell out of lee now.

[Death BOO Z]

Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
The past two chapters have been great. I called it in the topic "Other nins." Rock Lee rocks. The reason why Kishimoto added the drunken boxing (fist), is because this will give Lee the ability to defeat Kimimaro, especially since their was such a buildup of Kimimaro's power. Don't foreget how Rock Lee mopped the floor with Sasuke and Naruto. Rock Lee can definitely beat Kimimaro.

On another note, Kiba mentioned they. So far, we've only seen Rock Lee. I believe that Hinata and maybe even Shino are there. I bet shino is going to save Shika or maybe Kiba.

plz, someone, SAVE THA MANGA!

the two last chapters (and a few before them, but espically these two) scream in terror one word:
W-H-Y?

why is lee there? he didn't know about the sound four, and he reassured Sakura that Naruto will bring Sasuke back, what made him change his mind?

and if Lee's there to make sure that Naruto fight Sasuke and not Kimimaru, then what's the point in Kimimaru? they could have shown Sasuke's escape from the barrel while Naruto and Shikamaru were fighting Tayuya, and then Naruto could go after Sasuke while Shikamaru fights Tayuya.

Lee's whole super recovery is just too messed up, I won't say it's immpossible, since it's a manga, but it really stinks, more than Goku's countless recoveries against Freeza and more than Kibas\Kenshins ougie...

The drunken fist style is also pure shit, it looks like Kishimoto wanted to give Lee some ougie against Kimimaru, and this is the best he could come up with, I won't disgrad the fact he has a new ougie, since everybody seems to have it, but lee shouldn't have been there anyway, it's just too forced to be cool.
and besides, drunken fist? what the hell is this? I would expect something like that in Ranma 1\2 or YYH, but in Naruto? in the middle of one of the most intense fights during the last two months?

And you want to bring in more konoha genins? after all the buildup about the Konoha FIVE? why don't you throw in a few more Sound four in the while? and bring another sannin if you're at it already...
besides, how would anyone learn about the mission? Lee is in the operation, Sakura won't be allowed to blabber anymore (Tsunde probably wouldn't want it to become so well known that they can't keep thier genins in check) and the two chunins should know better than to spread rumors...

and if Hinata and Ino come in and do a dual super ougie movement to save Kiba, i'm officialy going to suicide raise plants in my dead body, so that i'll return a bit of all the oxcygen i wasted during my 17 years of life...
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[makkura]

someone translated chapter 210 on narutofan

he left a readme note and his email, you should take the time to write him and thank him.

[hiten mitsurugi]

Dazz, I wouldn't necessarily bet on that. Gaara messed Lee up pretty bad, but Gaara did the same thing to both Naruto and Sasuke. It's just that the Naruto and Sasuke could deal with it better becasue of their ability to use Ninjutsu, whereas Lee couldn't. Lee's could probably still beat Sasuke, since he hasn't learned anything new, except Chidori. Since chidori is slow, Lee has a great chance. Lee probably can't beat Naruto anymore, since he can always summon Gamabunta. But if Naruto doesn't summon, Naruto's inexperience with rasengan will not be enough to overcome Lee. I don't really see where Sasuke is better than Lee. Naruto has taken his Ninjutsu to another level, so Lee will definitely have problems with him.

Death Booz, I don't want to bring more genins in, but the fact remains that Kiba said "they." That means more than one person. Also, without Hinata's Byakugen, who else would have been able to track them. Kiba is already with the original search party. Shino might be able to release bugs to help track. I didn't say anything about Ino or Sakura. There is no use for Ino or Sakura, but Rock Lee will have needed someone to help him track the search party, and only Hinata and Shino remains. Actually, bringing in Lee right now really advances the story. Kishimoto did us fans a favor by doing this, or do you really want another boring arc on how Lee's operation went. This way Lee is re-introduced and fighting with his "ougi," it kills two birds with one stone (episode) instead of dragging it on forever. He is advancing the story line while involving the future jounins and Hokage of Konoha.

That's why these past two episodes ROCK. (No pun intended)

[Assertn]

to Death Boo Z: I'd quote ya, but it would take up too much space

First of all, lee DID in fact know about the mission that the genins were on. he was there when they were leaving.
as for lee getting involved with the naruto/kimimaru fight.....well if you assume that neither of them are supposed to die just yet, then having some break in the fight like lee stepping in would be a pretty good way to end it. Since its also assumed that lee wont get mortally wounded again, then having him go on a drunken rage and maybe scare off kimimaru would be fairly reasonable way to avoid any deaths.
and as for more konoha's showing up, just consider where they are. it IS the fire country, and therefore it IS konoha territory. It isn't about fighting fair, its about keeping oro from getting sasuke, and Tsunade is already aware of the danger they'd be in if they failed.

[Raven]

Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
Dazz, I wouldn't necessarily bet on that. Gaara messed Lee up pretty bad, but Gaara did the same thing to both Naruto and Sasuke. It's just that the Naruto and Sasuke could deal with it better becasue of their ability to use Ninjutsu, whereas Lee couldn't. Lee's could probably still beat Sasuke, since he hasn't learned anything new, except Chidori. Since chidori is slow, Lee has a great chance. Lee probably can't beat Naruto anymore, since he can always summon Gamabunta. But if Naruto doesn't summon, Naruto's inexperience with rasengan will not be enough to overcome Lee. I don't really see where Sasuke is better than Lee. Naruto has taken his Ninjutsu to another level, so Lee will definitely have problems with him.
Don't forget that when Lee beat Sasuke originally, Sasuke had no speed in comparison, he couldn't move quickly enough to keep up. Then, he developed the same speed as Lee in a month before the final rounds of the exam. The only reason Lee won the first time was because Sasuke couldn't react in time to block the assault. Now, with Sasuke's improved speed, there's nothing stopping him from beating Lee.

[Assertn]

yeah, if it wasnt for lee's interesting personality, i wouldve never expected to see him do much again in the series....since he's already passed on his fighting style to sasuke and is pretty much obsolete compared to him. Not that i'm bashing lee though, i DID like the part where he showed up to help naruto. If sasuke becomes evil and runs away though, then lee wont have to worry about competing for speed among the other remainging rookie genins.

[hiten mitsurugi]

Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn
Don't forget that when Lee beat Sasuke originally, Sasuke had no speed in comparison, he couldn't move quickly enough to keep up. Then, he developed the same speed as Lee in a month before the final rounds of the exam. The only reason Lee won the first time was because Sasuke couldn't react in time to block the assault. Now, with Sasuke's improved speed, there's nothing stopping him from beating Lee.

I know what Lee said about Sasuke's speed, but he says that ambiguously. You have to remember that Lee has a ton of weights on. If Lee takes those weights off, Sasuke will be in trouble. Remember Sasuke wasn't around to see Lee's fight with Gaara. He was already at the hospital.

But for argument sake, let's just say that Sasuke is about as fast as Lee. Lee's taijutsu far surpasses that of Sasuke's and Sasuke's ninjutsu isn't that fast/developed yet to pose too much of a problem for Lee. Even if Sasuke is able to block, it's only a matter of time before the iron fist style starts breaking bones. You don't want to block for too long. Lee is extremely powerful. I don't understand why people don't see that.

[Raven]

But didn't they say that Sasuke's improved speed was equal to Lee without the weights?

Anyway, for a genious like Sasuke I'm sure he could find effective ways of fighting from a distance, something incredibly difficult for Lee. I'd like to see the two of them go all out.

[hiten mitsurugi]

Actually I'd like to see that too. (Winner gets Sakura) Sasuke might declare Lee the victor, since he's more into her than he is.

[Mut]

lee is without a doubt one of the more strongest genins, but lee cannot win against sasuke anymore. sasuke is just as fast as lee WITHOUT the weights and sasuke has sharingan which can see lee's every movement, and since he is just as fast as lee, he can counter them all. the only thing lee has going for him is the gates, but that didn't help too much against gaara. sasuke's ninjutsu and genjutsu (even though they aren't super strong) are things that lee just can't compete against.

[MightyDustLoop]

The boner's gonna give out before it can finish the job.

[Kalean]

Originally posted by: dazzz
lee is without a doubt one of the more strongest genins, but lee cannot win against sasuke anymore. sasuke is just as fast as lee WITHOUT the weights and sasuke has sharingan which can see lee's every movement, and since he is just as fast as lee, he can counter them all. the only thing lee has going for him is the gates, but that didn't help too much against gaara. sasuke's ninjutsu and genjutsu (even though they aren't super strong) are things that lee just can't compete against.

Actually, it was mentioned and readily apparent that Lee's stamina is FAR above Sasuke's stamina. Sasuke's body uses up a lot of energy trying to keep up with Rock Lee's speed sans Rock Lee's YEARS of training. While Sasuke was only able to use his speedy attacks a few times before breathing heavily, Rock Lee was able to dash about the entire arena many many times without so much as breaking a sweat. Everyone likes to think that giving Sasuke Lee's speed was a way of replacing Lee's coolness or making him obsolete, but the fact is Lee still has Sasuke completely and utterly dominated in close range combat. If Sasuke were to win, he would HAVE to resort to long range attacks, as there is no way he could hang with close range lee for more than a minute at best. It's also worth noting that while Sasuke has a pale imitation of Lee's Taijutsu style, it's not nearly as well developed, so I would go so far as to say that Sasuke doesn't have the same skill level as Rock Lee at something. Of course, since Rock Lee is basically a Taijutsu specialist, that is hardly an insult to Sasuke, who did something extroardinary by picking up as much as he did so quickly. Rock Lee's ABSURD amount of stamina, however, would allow him to go on for a VERY long time if he wasn't pulling out the gates. This would actually make a match between Sasuke and him a LOT closer than people think. Without Gaara's absolute defense, there is no need for the Ura Renge, so at worst, Lee would only open 3 gates in absolute desperation, as the speed and strength powerup came with the 3rd gate, and that would be enough to completely destroy Sasuke if we were assuming a no holds barred match, which will likely never happen, on account of the fact that it would be stupid. So, once again, no offense intended, you are mistaken, Dazzz.

[xtort]

Originally posted by: Kalean
you are mistaken, Dazzz.

Don't worry Kalean, it happens very frequently. No where has it been said that Sasuke was Lee's speed without weights. People said he had Lee's speed, which could mean that he's like Lee's normal speed, which is very fast, or somewhere in between without the weights, and with gates open.

With gates open, Lee is the fasted character in the manga so far, by a lot. No character has been able to bounce people around like that.

Rock Lee... well, he rocks.

-xtortout

[Mut]

when you mention that lee has more stamina than sasuke while referring to my statement about how lee can't compete against sasuke's ninjutsu and genjutsu, then you misunderstood. i meant that lee has no counters against sasuke's ninjutsus and genjutsus for the sole reason that lee cannot use them. i am not disagreeing on the fact that lee has more stamina than sasuke, i completely agree with it.

also, when you say that lee can go on for a very long time if he wasn't using his gates supports response. :/

read up on my post on the "why is lee on par with kimimaro" thread.

[xtort]

Originally posted by: dazzz
when you mention that lee has more stamina than sasuke while referring to my statement about how lee can't compete against sasuke's ninjutsu and genjutsu, then you misunderstood. i meant that lee has no counters against sasuke's ninjutsus and genjutsus for the sole reason that lee cannot use them. i am not disagreeing on the fact that lee has more stamina than sasuke, i completely agree with it.

also, when you say that lee can go on for a very long time if he wasn't using his gates supports response. :/

read up on my post on the "why is lee on par with kimimaro" thread.

I haven't read up on that thread in a bit, I just wanted to comment on this.

I have some doubts as to how effective ninjutsu would be against Lee in his very fast form (weights off, with or without gates open). Tough to hit someone w/ a wall of water when they can move faster than it. Same w/ fire, or... hundreds of shurikens. Now, genjutsu is another story. Oddly enough, the only genjutsu we've seen was done by a) evil people, b) Kakashi. Unless, that is, bunshin no jutsu would be considered genjutsu. (Don't think so. If Naruto had that much strength in a genjutsu skill, he wouldn't have been put out by Kabuto's sleep spell.)

Hopefully, if/when Sasuke meets up w/ Orochimaru, he gets taught to use sharingan better, and learns some more... deviant jutsus. The genjutsu used on Shikamaru rocked. Rocked. Rocked.

(I wish I could do that to people at work. THIS IS WHAT WORKING WITH YOU IS LIKE!)
(By the way, that's a joke, and in no way do I pose a threat to people at work, if you're reading this.)

-xtortout

[Mut]

Originally posted by: xtort


Originally posted by: Kalean
you are mistaken, Dazzz.

Don't worry Kalean, it happens very frequently. No where has it been said that Sasuke was Lee's speed without weights. People said he had Lee's speed, which could mean that he's like Lee's normal speed, which is very fast, or somewhere in between without the weights, and with gates open.

With gates open, Lee is the fasted character in the manga so far, by a lot. No character has been able to bounce people around like that.

Rock Lee... well, he rocks.

-xtortout

http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~s_kim/images/owned.gif

plz know what you are talking about before posting.

and why do i get a feeling that you have something against me?

[Hatake Kakashi]

People please!

Read the manga before you post here and accuse someone of lying.

Good one dazz.

[Everon]

Ok lets recap

Sasuke is ABOUT as fast as lee without weights:True.
Lee has much more stanima than Sasuke: True.

Can we move on now?

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Translation is out at Narutofan. Not by Inane, though.
I am going to read it. Seez yas.

[hiten mitsurugi]

Thanks for posting Dazzz.

Notice "ABOUT." About isn't equality. It's like saying almost, in like "Sasuke almost won against Lee." Almost and abouts don't quite cut it. Lee is still faster than Sasuke, so Sasuke not being able to block Lee's attacks is still a problem.

You put that difference of speed into a person like Rock Lee, and he'll take fulll advantage of Sasuke. For someone like Rock Lee, that's all he needs. There will be such a big gap. About Sasuke's ninjutsu or genjutsu, Sasuke shouldn't even try it, because Rock Lee can close the gap quick, and with one iron fist. Sasuke may be out cold for a while.

More importantly, if everyone agrees that Lee can hold his own or even beat Sasuke or Naruto, then why are people complaining about Lee being a match for Kimimaro.

[xtort]

Originally posted by: dazzz
plz know what you are talking about before posting.
and why do i get a feeling that you have something against me?

Actually, I did misspeak. I was writing and thinking about gates open, hence the next sentence I originally wrote. As to your next sentence, I won't even comment.

The whole of my post I was thinking about Lee bouncing Gaara around the room, which was with several gates open. Sasuke has Lee's speed w/o the weights, but Lee has more speed than that, being able to open his chakra gates. That was the point I was attemping to make, despite my mistake and misspeaking.

[Mut]

lol, the naruto manga forum is the best place for discussions. ha ha.

[Hakeem_21]

Originally posted by: Saruto
WHY THE 210 MANGA OF NARUTO ON NARUTOFAN IS IN JAPANESE DAMN?!?!?!

where could i read it in english?

You can download 210 translated in www.Narutochuushin.com

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Originally posted by: Saruto
WHY THE 210 MANGA OF NARUTO ON NARUTOFAN IS IN JAPANESE DAMN?!?!?!

where could i read it in english?

As Neji would say:
Urusai yatsu da, ne?

[itachi_]

Hahah Lee will be even greater now after some sake then he was after he opend the gates i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

[Terracosmo]

Originally posted by: Neji-Aniki-sama


Originally posted by: Saruto
WHY THE 210 MANGA OF NARUTO ON NARUTOFAN IS IN JAPANESE DAMN?!?!?!

where could i read it in english?

As Neji would say:
Urusai yatsu da, ne?

As Terra would say:
Speak english goddamnit i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[Death BOO Z]

Originally posted by: itachi_
Hahah Lee will be even greater now after some sake then he was after he opend the gates i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

doesn't it bother anyone?
Lee's forbidden life-risking techniques are outmatched by his Drinking Habits
I reapet, where opening five gates failed, a bottle of Booze will succeed
Unbearable pain to reach one's goals? No, a few shots of whiski will get you much farther than that...Shots of Whisky

[Chi Chi]

Originally posted by: Death BOO Z


Originally posted by: itachi_
Hahah Lee will be even greater now after some sake then he was after he opend the gates i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

doesn't it bother anyone?
Lee's forbidden life-risking techniques are outmatched by his Drinking Habits
I reapet, where opening five gates failed, a bottle of Booze will succeed
Unbearable pain to reach one's goals? No, a few shots of whiski will get you much farther than that...Shots of Whisky

Did the manga say Lee was stronger than with the gates? He is probably stronger than when he doesn't have any gates open. But the only thing we know is that he loses control.

[hiten mitsurugi]

I don't think that his drinking makes him stronger than opening the gates. What the drinking instills is that it opens up another side of Lee. One that we've never seen before. As everyone has said before, Lee has pretty much been a linear character i.e. he was taijustsu based. Drinking just makes his taijutsu more multi dimensional. I don't believe that it is stronger than the gates. It helps make up for his lack of cantra, as professionals would call it. Even Gai fears Lee in his drunken state, so he must be really strong.

Funny thing is that we haven't seen anything ninjutsu or genjutsu based from Kimimaro yet. He's just pulled bones out of his body, but that's more taijutsu based than the other two. Maybe Kimimaro also leans more towards taijutsu. In that case it would be a very good match between them.

[itachi_]

You saw the flashbacks when he drank sake the last time, he went berserk on that house, it was totally destroyed. btw, did he drank that sake with purpose or did he picked the wrong bottle not knowing it

[sangai]

lee's a mean drunk

well i dunno since even gai fears lee when hes drunk then i wonder what will happen ke said that kimimaro moves where fluidic and well kimimaru said that lees where stiff so the booze should loosen lee up and increase his fighting spirit

[hiten mitsurugi]

Originally posted by: itachi_
You saw the flashbacks when he drank sake the last time, he went berserk on that house, it was totally destroyed. btw, did he drank that sake with purpose or did he picked the wrong bottle not knowing it

He thought it was water in the restaurant, just like this time he thought it was medicine.

[DeluxSkillz]

probably when lee gets drunk, he doesn't get as powerful as when opening his gates but probably his moves will be more perfect and unpredictable, now imagine a fighting style that can attack while dodging blows accurately that'll most likely be what happens, his moves will be too unpredictable and too precise for kimimaro to handle thus his downfall, although I do think that when kimi goes into Lvl 2 either Lee will have to open the gates again or he'll be screwed because if he's capable of going against lvl2 kimi then kishimoto will need to think up a damn good explenation for it

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo


As Terra would say:
Speak english goddamnit i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/quote]

Huh, Neji doesn't speak English...

[Mut]

there is no lvl 2 kimimaro. stop saying that since we don't know yet.

[DeluxSkillz]

if kimi doesn't have a lvl2 then he's a stupid charachter to begin with and i see no reason why rock lee won't be able to beat him and it woul be stupid for him not to be able to go lvl2 because even sasuke is made to be level 2, why would oro have wanted kimi before if he didn't even have a seal lvl 2 and I won't believe things like that he's just as powerful as lvl 2 with his normal seal

[hiten mitsurugi]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
lol, the naruto manga forum is the best place for discussions. ha ha.

Mut@t@, I have a problem with your #3 in your sig.
FYI,
I really wasn't going to comment on this, but I really didn't want you to embarass yourself by contradicting yourself, I've been holding back for months now.

strength is defined as the capacity or potential for effective action.

In your own words, Naruto has the most potential for effective action. I know you agree with this since you openly state it. Thus, by definition of strength, Naruto is the strongest. So you, yourself, have contradicted your #3. Since, we've just proven your #3 wrong, with Naruto being the strongest, your #2 goes out the window. With you being wrong, it nullifies your #1. So #1, #2, and #3 are wrong, very wrong.

[xtort]

Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi


Originally posted by: Mut@t@
lol, the naruto manga forum is the best place for discussions. ha ha.

Mut@t@, I have a problem with your #3 in your sig.


You might as well talk to air hiten. I could expound on this, but like I just suggested, it'd be pointless.

On more noteworthy topics, Kimi most likely has some altered form. We've seen a total of three kinds of seals, and know that two have altered states. Kishimoto has been fairly linear where this things are concerned, and the only reason I could understand not seeing Kimi's altered states is his current health, or rather the lack thereof.

I think this'll be the most-funnest-fights in a long time, and can't wait for a paintpixel`ed scanslation of 210 and 211.

-xtortout

[Raven]

The thing is, when people on these forums say "the strongest ninja" they are usually talking about "who would win in a battle". So while I understand what your theory is saying, it only applies to the minority of posters here.

[Mut]

i will kill two pigeons with one pebble.

1. when i say that itachi is the strongest character, i mean overall strength, knowledge of skill, speed, quickness, agility, etc, etc, etc. not just strength. so if you add all that up (like in sports video games), he is the strongest overall. also, naruto is STILL NOT the character with the most power (strength, quickness/speed, and agility). naruto has the kyubi within him which can bring out a lot of chakra. BUT how much can he bring out? all of it? no. that's why he is not the most powerful character. when he is able to fully control ALL of the kyubi chakra, then i'll remove #3. til then, no thx.

2. xtort, it's obvious that you have something against me. don't be mad cuz i made you look stupid and made you come up with a lame excuse to cover it up. and if you want to expound on my sig, go ahead. discussions are always fun and it's what this forum is for, right?

have a good day, sirs. =D

[hiten mitsurugi]

Naruto doesn't need to bring out all the chakra. That's the point. In your statement Naruto needs to bring out all of kyubi's chakra just to beat Itachi. You are implying that Itachi has more chakra than kyubi. This is where your argument is flawed. Don't think that Naruto isn't fast either, remember, Naruto can become beserk Naruto and that enhances his speed greatly. Naruto is stronger than Itachi, Naruto is faster than Itachi, the only area that Naruto loses in is experience/skill.

Lee is faster than Sasuke, so what do you mean by making anyone look stupid. Your post helped prove the case (I didn't want to do the leg work myself).

Answer to post below:
Naruto doesn't need all of kyubi's chakra. Naruto only needs enough chakra to perform each jutsu. That is all. Whether he brings out all the chakra or not is irrelevant.

What do you mean his ninjutsu is sloppy, jounin level Kage Bunshin, Sennin level Kuchiyose (gamabunta), and Kage level Rasengan. About the cantra, it's just like Ebisu explained, he only needs to bring out "X" amount of chakra per jutsu. He doesn't need to use more or less. Just the right amount. So he doesn't need all of kyubi's chakra at once. With kyubi's large surplus of chakra, he pulls out enough to perform each jutsu. What kind of jutsu are you trying to perform by pulling out all the cantra? It's extremely wasteful, plus there isn't a jutsu out there yet that can utilize the full potential of kyubi chakra, because no one has ever been in Naruto's position before. The fight with Kimimaro was to build up the return of "THE ROCK LEE." It really wasn't even a fight. I'm sure that Naruto would have rocked kimimaro's little world. Kimimaro was a big fish in a small pond. Now he's a small fish in a large pond. GO ROCK LEE!!!!!

[Mut]

Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
Naruto doesn't need to bring out all the chakra. That's the point. In your statement Naruto needs to bring out all of kyubi's chakra just to beat Itachi. You are implying that Itachi has more chakra than kyubi. This is where your argument is flawed. Don't think that Naruto isn't fast either, remember, Naruto can become beserk Naruto and that enhances his speed greatly. Naruto is stronger than Itachi, Naruto is faster than Itachi, the only area that Naruto loses in is experience/skill.

Lee is faster than Sasuke, so what do you mean by making anyone look stupid. Your post helped prove the case (I didn't want to do the leg work myself).

lol, we're never gonna get through each other's heads. you are correct when you say that my statment says that naruto needs to bring out all of kyubi chakra just to beat itachi. cuz naruto can't beat him or other super strong characters without doing it. but i'm not implying that itachi has more chakra than kyubi. kyubi is obviously stronger than itachi (this is a given, duh), but naruto can't use enough of the kyubi chakra to beat itachi since naruto just can't bring enough of it out. that's what i'm trying to get at. naruto is fast, but obviously not fast enough as he didn't land one single hit against kimimaro as he was facing thousands of naruto clones. again, no, naruto is not stronger than itachi, and naruto is not faster than him. at least, not yet.

Answer to post above:
what jutsus? taijutsu? genjutsu? ninjutsu? and his ninjutsu is weak. naruto lacks A LOT of jutsus. his taijutsu is super sloppy, has no knowledge/skill in genjutsu, and sucks at ninjutsu (besides kage bunshin). the fact that naruto sucks at every type of jutsu kills him. how is naruto suppose to avoid, block, or counter a genjutsu from itachi? naruto gets so overwhelmed by the kyubi chakra he can't fight straight. everything is a rush in with kage bunshin. but too bad itachi can see through each one and figure out which one is the real one. only thing naruto really has going for him is for the opponent to underestimate him and owned by a surprise attack, which has happened every time.

ok, for bring out X amount of chakra. naruto getting stronger during kyubi mode depends on the amount of kyubi chakra he accesses. currently, he can only access a certain amount, which is obviously not enough for someone like itachi if naruto and his clones couldn't land one hit on kimimaro.

[Assertn]

its true we can't assume kimimaru has a level 2 curse.....for 2 possibilities.....
1) that earth curse seal (was it earth, or heaven? i think sasuke's was heaven)....that kimimaru has could work in a different way than the other type, so maybe multiple forms of it doesnt exist, or exist the same way.
2) kimimaru couldve had his mysterious "condition" back before they had the chance to give him the level 2 upgrade.....so maybe it never happened

[Uzumaki Naruto]

anyone know when the trans;ated version will com out, but man this chapter rocks

[hiten mitsurugi]

Dude, "thienz" site CSTuberlin something has had it since like saturday. I thought everyone had it already. I would give link, but it's in my favorites folder on my other computer (down bad RAM). Wait, here it ishttp://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~rmazores/naruto/

[Tsukiyomi]

I was just wondering maybe lee opened the heal gate so that his recovery would be faster, but seeing how kishimoto likes to do things i believe lee will loose because he will probably only be able to do drunken style for a little bit due to his arm and leg being crushed !!!! i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[xtort]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
2. xtort, it's obvious that you have something against me. don't be mad cuz i made you look stupid and made you come up with a lame excuse to cover it up. and if you want to expound on my sig, go ahead. discussions are always fun and it's what this forum is for, right?


I just don't waste my time fighting with children. Your sig says everything about you that I need to know, which is that I have no interest in anything you have to say. Good catch on my mistake, and regardless on how many points you want to give yourself for it, I made a mistake. So what?



Originally posted by: Mut@t@
have a good day, sirs. =D

You too there pal. Good luck with that.

-xtortout

[Mut]

just in case people are still trying to look for places to dl manga, here are the sites i check for manga releases:

http://www.narutofan.com
http://www.narutoex.com
http://www.narutochuushin.com
and thienz

[xtort]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
just in case people are still trying to look for places to dl manga, here are the sites i check for manga releases:

http://www.narutofan.com
http://www.narutoex.com
http://www.narutochuushin.com
and thienz

I'm a big fan of NarutoEX. I haven't seen any controversy, there are no usernames/accounts necessary, and the site seems dedicated to getting Naruto out. Good job, cuz that's all I want. Plus, the design is wayyyy more Naruto-esque than the rest of them. They come off a bit too serious, and NarutoEX is well-designed around levity.

-xtortout

[Vagabond]

Yeah props to raijin

[Augury]

Doesn't anybody other than me find it odd that Kimimaro let Lee drink?

(Page 14-15)
Kimimaro: Here I go...
Lee: Wait a moment!
Kimimaro: What?..
Lee: I'm sorry, it's about time for my medicine. Excuse me, I have to drink my medicine or else...
(Kimimaro watches as Lee drinks the sake)
Reader: (wtf?...)

I mean really... the guy's about to attack and his opponent says "Wait" and then pops a lame excuse. Let's stand around and see what he does!
But yeah, I understand that Kimimaro might has his reasons (or Kishimoto too) but that was definitely a "wtf" moment for me.
I think that nobody mentioned this throughout the last 9 pages on this topic, which I found surprising.

[MightyDustLoop]

So I'm guessing that Lee's actual hidden inate ability, the only thing he didn't bust his ass for, is super pissy drunkenness?

yeah, actually, I could live with that. Makes more sense than a red super eye, a fox's chakra in my gut, or the ability to talk with dogs.

I'm finally appeased.

[HimizujinEternia]

Originally posted by: Augury
Doesn't anybody other than me find it odd that Kimimaro let Lee drink?

(Page 14-15)
Kimimaro: Here I go...
Lee: Wait a moment!
Kimimaro: What?..
Lee: I'm sorry, it's about time for my medicine. Excuse me, I have to drink my medicine or else...
(Kimimaro watches as Lee drinks the sake)
Reader: (wtf?...)

I mean really... the guy's about to attack and his opponent says "Wait" and then pops a lame excuse. Let's stand around and see what he does!
But yeah, I understand that Kimimaro might has his reasons (or Kishimoto too) but that was definitely a "wtf" moment for me.
I think that nobody mentioned this throughout the last 9 pages on this topic, which I found surprising.

Kimimaro doesn't exactly seem to be taking this fight seriously, now does he? He's a villian character, and all villian characters suffer from the inability to act when their opponent needs to do something that would leave them vulnerable for a few seconds. Made perfect sense to me.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Originally posted by: HimizujinEternia

Kimimaro doesn't exactly seem to be taking this fight seriously, now does he? He's a villian character, and all villian characters suffer from the inability to act when their opponent needs to do something that would leave them vulnerable for a few seconds. Made perfect sense to me.

Not necessarely. Kimi has class, IMO, why else would he point out that Lee was fighting too straight?
And these people do talk a lot during fights. You're supposed to wait until your opponent, bows/does all the proper rituals/tells the story of his life/his opinion about you/his opinions about the mysteries of life and death *and* takes his medicine. Watch a match of any Eastern Martial Art... even in a life or death match, they have to obbey the ettiquette...

[itachi_]

Naruto is stronger than Itachi, Naruto is faster than Itachi, the only area that Naruto loses in is experience/skill.

Don't you feel morified with such a screwed up opinion, it's no logic at all, He deffinetly ain't stronger then itachi in his current state and jutsus, Haha, they're at a total different level.

[Chi Chi]

Originally posted by: Augury
Doesn't anybody other than me find it odd that Kimimaro let Lee drink?

(Page 14-15)
Kimimaro: Here I go...
Lee: Wait a moment!
Kimimaro: What?..
Lee: I'm sorry, it's about time for my medicine. Excuse me, I have to drink my medicine or else...
(Kimimaro watches as Lee drinks the sake)
Reader: (wtf?...)

I mean really... the guy's about to attack and his opponent says "Wait" and then pops a lame excuse. Let's stand around and see what he does!
But yeah, I understand that Kimimaro might has his reasons (or Kishimoto too) but that was definitely a "wtf" moment for me.
I think that nobody mentioned this throughout the last 9 pages on this topic, which I found surprising.

it was WTF moment for Kimimaro too.

[sangai]

kimimaro was probably like why the hell is he taking medicine im just gonna kick his ass

but the drunk lee thing is to try and a humerous effect i really don't think kishimoto is just drawing these out as he goes, i bet he has at least up to 250 done and working on others,

kishimoto has his reasons

after seeing every one of the geenins fight and seeing how strong they are if they all survive that means there is gonna be some super powerful adults when there grown up hell they all will probably be better then there fathers

maybe that why kishimoto is making it appear as if they are dying, as to eliminate characters from appearing in a future story line where it would be to hard to have them there

[Kurapica]

It's great that Rock Lee is back. This will probably be a good fiht, especially when were able to see the 5 "dances" that Kimmimaro controls.
But for now, let's see Rock Lee wreck the place.

[Mut]

who do you guys think will win?

i think kimimaro has to win cuz of all the hype. it'd be stupid to make someone seem so powerful and just get owned by a drunk fool.

[Lexx]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
who do you guys think will win?

i think kimimaro has to win cuz of all the hype. it'd be stupid to make someone seem so powerful and just get owned by a drunk fool.


Didn't you read the chapter? Lee is a natural drunken boxer.

On the last page:

"Light headed and with an unfixed viewpoint, when in that stance even Gai fears him.."

If Gai fears Lee when he's like that, then he must be reeealy badass when drunk

Kikimaro will have a hard time and maybe regret to be born when he'll get his ass kicked

[Assertn]

i dont think lee would "lose"....it would seem to pointless to bring him out here just to fail miserably.
however i also dont think that kimimaro will actually be defeated. He'll prolly just retreat and head back to the sound village or somethin, especially since sasuke's already free and runnin about his evil ways anyway.

[Gods_Son]

I think it could be pointless if the fight went either way. It would be pointless for Lee to make his grand entrance again, just to get his ass kicked, but it would also be stupid if they brought out this new hyped up bad guy (Kimi) just so they could show Lee destroy him with his new drunken boxing technique. I'm also gonna assume that the fight won't be decided right now.

[Mut]

man, it's annoying when people say "didn't you read the chapter?"

OBVIOUSLY I READ IT IF I AM POSTING HERE.

i asked to hear what people thought would happen...i think assertn's and konohamaru's are more plausible actually...but i dunno.

[Tsukiyomi]

I think Kimimaro will sorta win , maybe because either lee will pass out from the pain of the recovering surgery our maybe lee will do some drunken style moves then pass out because comon he's still young and can't control liquor, and kimimaro will just leave lee behind and go after sasuke. Well just an opinioni/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Iznogoud]

This chapter just rocks, nothing to add i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif