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jing
Sun, 02-22-2004, 04:19 AM
well i don't think this kinda of poll hasn't been made yet.
plus this anime seems to focus alot on "absolute defence" and then have them destroy afterwards. so what do you think is the absolute defence?

abomb
Sun, 02-22-2004, 04:21 AM
running away. If you run away, you can't be hurt... unless you trip and fall when you're running

PLasK
Sun, 02-22-2004, 04:30 AM
Go neji! ^^

PSJ
Sun, 02-22-2004, 04:35 AM
since all of those have or will be broken there is no absolute defence. the only really good and fool proof defence is running and hiding.

Mut
Sun, 02-22-2004, 05:24 AM
kidoumaru's armor wasn't a lvl 2 ability.

_Sasuke_
Sun, 02-22-2004, 07:35 AM
like everybody said, all ' absolute defences' have been broken, so there's only 1 solution......run and hide!

Hotsuma
Sun, 02-22-2004, 07:45 AM
SEXY NO JUTSU.

There isn't a straight man on earth that could move after seeing that.


(but I voted Neji's Kaiten)

jing
Sun, 02-22-2004, 07:53 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 22 2004, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> kidoumaru&#39;s armor wasn&#39;t a lvl 2 ability. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
sorry, I couldn&#39;t remember, but you get what i mean =) his armor thingie that prevented neji&#39;s 64 hands.
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i don&#39;t think anyone can outrun rock lee&#33;&#33; , maybe u can hide. but not run&#33;
but if u hide. closet pervert Ebisu will pown.

lasaire
Sun, 02-22-2004, 08:38 AM
Well, I voted Neji just because he&#39;s so cool and using chakra seems to be alot more flexible than using sand or spider-armor. It doesn&#39;t weigh anything and lets you move around.

But everyone who has said running is right, the only absolute defense is either running or never getting into a fight at all.

Plus, defence isn&#39;t everything: you can have a truly, utterly unbreakable absolute defence, and if you don&#39;t have an equally strong offense you won&#39;t win a fight.

pavi
Sun, 02-22-2004, 08:51 AM
kidoumarus defence was never broken, just he didnt use it again..

edit:
kage bunshin and that bone ability arent really defences
neither is kawirama, its more of a escape technique

other defence techniques are:

sakons and ukons oni gate wall thing
sound fatties earth wall
hokages earth wall
and jiraiya steel hair technique
hmm 2nd hokages water barrier?

mage
Sun, 02-22-2004, 10:03 AM
the best defense is a good offense

jing
Sun, 02-22-2004, 10:17 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pavi @ Feb 22 2004, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> kidoumarus defence was never broken, just he didnt use it again..

edit:
kage bunshin and that bone ability arent really defences
neither is kawirama, its more of a escape technique

other defence techniques are:

sakons and ukons oni gate wall thing
sound fatties earth wall
hokages earth wall
and jiraiya steel hair technique
hmm 2nd hokages water barrier? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
damn i missed so many too.

if ur smart, u can use kagebunshins as a shield, so it is considered as a defence

oni roh
Sun, 02-22-2004, 11:26 AM
i had to vote for gaara because he seems to have multiple &quot;absolute defenses&quot; and unlike anyone else his first he doesn&#39;t have to use chakra because the sand moves on its own as explained so he&#39;s already got a headstart over everyone else. and when you do manage to get past that he has the sand covering his body which uses chakra like everyone elses and on the same level.

XwingRob
Sun, 02-22-2004, 12:07 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mage @ Feb 22 2004, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> the best defense is a good offense </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yep. I betcha chidori or rasengan can penetrate all those defenses listed.

loser_nin
Sun, 02-22-2004, 12:46 PM
I actually think that the most effective one is Neji&#39;s. Yes, it was broken, but with a crap load of practice, I think that Neji will eventually be able to focus his charka onto that one blind spot so well that it will be like it has no blind spots.

Mut
Mon, 02-23-2004, 02:02 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD &#064; Feb 23 2004, 12:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Wait how does kaitan have a blind spot? I thought it was the byakugan that had a blind spot. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
it seems that i totally fucked up on my last post. i merged my two thoughts together. :/

i meant to say that it&#39;d be stupid if byakugan had no blind spots and kaiten does have a weakness (kidoumaru figured it out).

Power PMV
Mon, 02-23-2004, 02:09 AM
Gaara&#39;s sand defense.

Hotsuma
Mon, 02-23-2004, 02:19 AM
UDON SUMMONING.

Dreamer
Mon, 02-23-2004, 02:19 AM
true, But kidoumaru was like neji, he just used his web stuff to form a layer to protect him like gaara, but every defense will have a weak point. The chain is only as strong as it&#39;s weakest link.

Power PMV
Mon, 02-23-2004, 02:19 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hotsuma @ Feb 23 2004, 01:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> UDON SUMMONING. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
forgot that one&#33;&#33;

yeah, that&#39;s the best

Uzumaki Naruto
Mon, 02-23-2004, 02:33 AM
id have to say that neijis is better in defense but it would also be hard to learn bc u have to release chakra from every tenketsu on ur body, but defense wise its better, but the only defect i c is that u run out of chakra fast

oni roh
Mon, 02-23-2004, 02:53 AM
yeah but it still uses up chakra. Neji would eventually run out, when if gaara in the same position even if he is uncouncious the sand would still protect him.

EDIT: Forget i said that, it was already said but i can&#39;t figure out how to delete the post :S

Yondaime
Mon, 02-23-2004, 06:18 AM
neiji doesn&#39;t have absolute defense or anyone else....because absolute defense would be the one which will always be there no matter what.....neiji&#39;s kaiten uses huge amount of chakra output, gaara&#39;s initial defense can be broken with fast speed taijutsu....and plus his skin armor is not that effective because that too uses huge amount of chakra and kankuro said there are various weakpoints in gaara&#39;s skin armor. Kage bunshin is not a defense at all nor is kawarimi jutsu. so uptil now we haven&#39;t seen absolute defense, we still have to watch more of kimimaro&#39;s fight so we are not sure about that till now.

Everon
Mon, 02-23-2004, 06:24 AM
God?

*shrugs* works in western civ class.

Nautek
Mon, 02-23-2004, 08:56 AM
I would say that Neji&#39;s kaiten is a good choice.

Wren
Mon, 02-23-2004, 11:56 AM
there is no such thing as an *absolute* defense; everything has a weakness. The strongest battleship can still be sunk, the best strategy has flaws, and no plan is foolproof----where there are advantages there are also weaknesses in one way or other. he he part of strategy is to exploit that.

DeathscytheVII
Mon, 02-23-2004, 12:40 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>What&#39;s the ABSOLUTEST defence?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

An extremely good offense http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mut
Mon, 02-23-2004, 01:09 PM
it&#39;ll be so stupid if a kaiten has no blind spots. everything has a weakness.

Vagabond
Mon, 02-23-2004, 01:32 PM
Wait how does kaitan have a blind spot? I thought it was the byakugan that had a blind spot.

xtort
Mon, 02-23-2004, 01:41 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hotsuma &#064; Feb 22 2004, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> SEXY NO JUTSU.

There isn&#39;t a straight man on earth that could move after seeing that.
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I dunno. I&#39;d be moving... towards her.

Oh, and kaiten shouldn&#39;t have a blind spot. If you think about it, his Byakugan has a small hole missing from it. Spinning around rapidly, he&#39;s able to see all around him, a full 360 degrees, except that at any given moment, he has a small hole. That hole would be &quot;removed&quot; by the fact that he&#39;s spinning really rapidly, so what he couldn&#39;t see on any given moment, he&#39;d see the next. No?

-xtortout

Wren
Tue, 02-24-2004, 09:00 AM
and to deathscytheVIII Freedom Gundam is better lol. but still nice sig; first time ive seen a Gundam Seed sig of late

RockingRocklee
Wed, 02-25-2004, 03:11 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abomb @ Feb 22 2004, 03:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> running away. If you run away, you can&#39;t be hurt... unless you trip and fall when you&#39;re running </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i totally agree......alot.....

hiten mitsurugi
Wed, 02-25-2004, 10:35 AM
The only absolut defense that I&#39;ve seen so far, is the one made by the sound nins. The barrier that kept the 3rd hokage in, and all of the anbu ninjas out. If that defense could have been broken then the third hokage would still be alive.

TeLeKiNeSiS
Wed, 02-25-2004, 01:58 PM
i say kawarimi&#33; great for all purposes