Asuma-sensei

[lasaire]

Ok, I've been thinking, and the other kick-ass, mysterious teacher besides Kakashi, but who is rarely discussed, is Asuma. There's lots we don't know about him:

1) His name is Sarutobi Asuma. The 3rd Hokage's name is Sarutobi. (However, we don't know if that's his first or last name. Orochimaru refers to him as Sarutobi-sensei, which makes me want to think it's his first name, since all the other genins call their senseis by their first name, i.e. Kakashi-sensei, Gai-sensei.) Is he the 3rd's son? Would that necessarily make him Konohamaru's father? We know that the 3rd had to have at least one child, since Konohamaru is revealed in canon as his grandson.

2) What special skills does he have? Is he another taijutsu specialist like Gai? I tend to think not, but the only thing we have seen him to is fight with his brass-knuckles/dagger thing. (Anybody know the term for this?) My feeling is that he can do at least some ninjutsu, as he can do kawarimi and the fact that ninjas that cannot do at least some ninjutsu and genjutsu are very rare.


Let's hear somebody else's opinions!

[Neji-Cof]

I agree. he is actually my favorite sensei. he is so huge and strong and his brass knuckle thingy kicks ass. i dunno anything else other then i think he is the coolest. he has best personality http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif he RULES GO ASUMA!!!!!!!!

[jing]

he isn't related to the 3rd hokage.
sarutobi is 3rd's first name.
and sarutobi is asuma's last name.
if konohamaru is his son, im sure they would have introduced that already.
im pretty sure he aint a taijutsu specialist. maybe hes good with brass knuckles. he basically SHATTERED that sound nin's face....... i cried for that sound nin. asuma's a crazy mofo. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif

[KakashiSensei]

The thing you gotta understand that all the main charector Jounins have something that makes them unique, Kakashi is the Copy Ninja (sharingan), Gai is super super super fast and skilled in not just taijustsu, Asuma is super big and strong and good with taijutsu, Kurenai....Kurenai...wears red???

Well thats the way i see things. Could be wrong though

[lasaire]

Kurenai is a genjutsu specialist -- she works with illusions. I dunno, it doesn't make sense to have Asuma be only strong and good with taijutsu -- after all, Gai's already been established as the taijutsu specialist and with the 8 Celestial Gates, I don't think anybody could top him in close combat. Maybe Asuma's the balanced ninja. He's big and strong and good at all three: tai, nin and genjutsu, but superior in none, except for the previously mentioned fact of him being really big and strong.

Konohamaru doesn't have to be his son to be related, Asuma could be his uncle. Just a suggestion.

[rEkKaShInObI]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sangai sakusei @ Feb 17 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> not every body gets cancer

besides he&#39;ll probably get killed before the lung cancer takes over

hokage smoked a pipe which is much worse and the cancer didn&#39;t get him </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
True True... total druggies. they should try steroids =D

[Terracosmo]

I just realized that if you throw the letters around a bit, Asuma becomes Usama.

<u>HOLY SHIT&#33;</u>

[villin]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Terracosmo @ Feb 17 2004, 03:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I just realized that if you throw the letters around a bit, Asuma becomes Usama.

<u>HOLY SHIT&#33;</u> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
What&#39;s a Usama?

[KakashiSensei]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Terracosmo &#064; Feb 17 2004, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I just realized that if you throw the letters around a bit, Asuma becomes Usama.

<u>HOLY SHIT&#33;</u> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
WTF http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif LOL

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pervert&#045;Sennin Jiraiya &#064; Feb 17 2004, 11:34 AM )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>kakashisensei speak for yourself about gai. i for one knows his surname. if you guys wanna know then ill tell ya. gai&#39;s surname is maito. his name is Maito Gai.
</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Sorry man I may have forgotten, my bad

[Vagabond]

hm i think sarutobi is the hokages family name. You guys have to understand that young kids have little respect for their teachers. So they call them by their first names. Oro is older and he has respect for sandaime so he refers to him by his last name. Personally i would never refer to my Japanese teacher by her first name. That would be disrespectful. When i see an adult refer to their teacher by their first name then i&#39;ll be convinved that sarutobi is not hokages family name.

[Raven]

I wonder if any conversations would be starting about Asuma if he didn&#39;t just have a cool scene in a recent episode.......

hehe nah, he&#39;s pretty cool. I think he&#39;s just an average Jounin, nothing particularly special about him. He was just on a much higher level than all those sound guys, that&#39;s why he won so easily.

[Power PMV]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KakashiSensei @ Feb 16 2004, 11:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The thing you gotta understand that all the main charector Jounins have something that makes them unique, Kakashi is the Copy Ninja (sharingan), Gai is super super super fast and skilled in not just taijustsu, Asuma is super big and strong and good with taijutsu, Kurenai....Kurenai...wears red???

Well thats the way i see things. Could be wrong though </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Kurenai is the sexy jounin together with Anko, they are masters of sexual service no jutsu.

Asuma and Hayate are the disease experts, Hayate uses AIDS no jutsu on his enemies and Asuma uses Lung Cancer no jutsu.

Fear them all. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif

[Slain]

kaksahi is still very fast too, because they said u have to be very fast to be able to use the chidori ....

And i thought all ninjas can do ninjutsu genjutsu just rock lee is very bad on it ;/ cause he has no talent ... so Asuma should have some special abilities not just the dagger nukkle thing http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif

[PSJ]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (villin @ Feb 17 2004, 07:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Terracosmo &#064; Feb 17 2004, 03:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I just realized that if you throw the letters around a bit, Asuma becomes Usama.

<u>HOLY SHIT&#33;</u> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
What&#39;s a Usama? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
usama is the same person osama its just americans that cant spell.

[Legendary Nin]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Power PMV @ Feb 17 2004, 03:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Kurenai is the sexy jounin together with Anko, they are masters of sexual service no jutsu.

Asuma and Hayate are the disease experts, Hayate uses AIDS no jutsu on his enemies and Asuma uses Lung Cancer no jutsu.

Fear them all. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
lol...Asuma is just a regular Joe who smokes too much.He get&#39;s his...mwaahhh.We should see Itachi in late April to early May.That&#39;s when we get to see Asuma in action roflmao.

[Baka-chan]

i didn&#39;t realize asuma was such a badass, i was impressed http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif i&#39;m glad they show a fight with a jounin every once in a while.

[Chi Chi]

I hope they fillerize the battles of the other jounins too.

[Yondaime]

I think you can&#39;t be a jounin if you are not expert in all fields of being a ninja. because if Hokage is the top ninja the only rank which comes after that is a jounin or &quot;elite jounin&quot; but i think they are sort of different like Ebisu. So keep all that in mind Asuma gotta to be alot stronger than what we have seen of him. He has got to know a summon, like Gai has the turtle(by the way what can a turtle do anyways lay eggs??? ) and Kakashi has Pakkun. and also Asuma smokes.....he is cool thats it...cough cough

[gaara]

Sarutobi is the Hokage&#39;s nick name bakas, as in &#39;Monkey&#39;..because he looks like one, summons one, and even has the same voice as another character that is nick named Sarutobi, which would be the chief in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, actually the chief in all of the GITS is nick named Sarutobi too..He has the same hair cut as hokage without the hat lols, and has the same facial characteristics.. as in OLD MAN SARUTOBI&#33; old monkey man, you&#39;ll understand later on silly people.

[Neji-Cof]

http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif how do u know what we will see in april m- may?? have u seen those episodes????? DO LIVE IN JAPAN&gt;&gt; OOOO.... ure so mysterious.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif jk..lol i got a lil carried away..but i still love asuma..not in that waybut i love bad ass big characters.. especialy there atitude... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif they rule all

[Raven]

*ahem* no, Sarutobi is his actual name.

[lasaire]

Well, disregarding the first name/last name discussion, here&#39;s some further proof along the lines that persuades me Asuma is somehow related to the 3rd:

1) Resemblance. Spiky hair, pointed beard vs. pointed goatee. You&#39;ll notice that in anime family members tend to be drawn closer alike than family members actually necessarily resemble in real life. A good number of people are convinced that Naruto is the 4th&#39;s son, when all they have in common is really a strong resemblance. The 4th&#39;s name is garbled, and we can&#39;t really make it out for sure. Asuma and the 3rd look alike, AND share the same name, whether first or last. View and see for yourself (apologies for the low image quality).
http://studentpages.scad.edu/~abcook20/images/proof1.jpg
http://studentpages.scad.edu/~abcook20/images/proof2.jpg

2) This is an interesting little tidbit: what about that scarf/bandanna thing Asuma wears at his waist? It has the character for &#39;fire&#39; on it (ho). This is the same character that is used to write Hokage (ho-fire + kage-shadow). It could be that Asuma&#39;s sporting a garment that doesn&#39;t have any use except to show his connections to the Hokage title or name, much the same way we buy t-shirts for our favorite sports teams or music groups. Now, that fire character could relate to the whole of the Leaf, but nobody else wears it, so my feeling is that he has a special reason to wear it. View (again, apologies that it is small):
http://studentpages.scad.edu/~abcook20/images/proof3.jpg

And yes, I started to notice these similarities before Asuma got his kickass scene in the anime.

[Uzumaki Kakashi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gaara @ Feb 17 2004, 06:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sarutobi is the Hokage&#39;s nick name bakas, as in &#39;Monkey&#39;..because he looks like one, summons one, and even has the same voice as another character that is nick named Sarutobi, which would be the chief in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, actually the chief in all of the GITS is nick named Sarutobi too..He has the same hair cut as hokage without the hat lols, and has the same facial characteristics.. as in OLD MAN SARUTOBI&#33; old monkey man, you&#39;ll understand later on silly people. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
its funny when poeolpe try to correct us. yeah sure the 3rd looks like a monkey and can summon enma (monkey staff) but us manga readers have known the thirds name is sarutobi. and know the anime watchers know as well.

so next time before u try to correct someone, make sure ur right and not blowing steam out ur butt.

lol

[PSJ]

hmm good point yes yes. family members are often drawn very alike, for example chuoji, shikamaru, ino and their fathers look very alike. inos father almost looks like a transvestite....


and that &quot;Ho&quot; sign was a good point when i watch closely i recognize it. it is on the 3rds hat... that might be some kind of connection to the 3rd i think that is a possiblity. and ppl cant say that they know for sure that 3rd&#39;s firstname is sarutobi and not his lastname its just speculation.

[PSJ]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gaara &#064; Feb 17 2004, 12:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sarutobi is the Hokage&#39;s nick name bakas, as in &#39;Monkey&#39;..because he looks like one, summons one, and even has the same voice as another character that is nick named Sarutobi, which would be the chief in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, actually the chief in all of the GITS is nick named Sarutobi too..He has the same hair cut as hokage without the hat lols, and has the same facial characteristics.. as in OLD MAN SARUTOBI&#33; old monkey man, you&#39;ll understand later on silly people. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
eemm you are the only baka here. sarutobi is his actual name. his nickname(only called by 2nd hokage) is Saru which means monkey and is a part of his lastname. the connection with the GITS guy isnt relevant here...

why are there so many asuma threads all of a sudden?

[EpoC]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Feb 17 2004, 01:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sangai sakusei &#064; Feb 17 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> not every body gets cancer

besides he&#39;ll probably get killed before the lung cancer takes over

hokage smoked a pipe which is much worse and the cancer didn&#39;t get him </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
True True... total druggies. they should try steroids =D </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
haha good one&#33;
I think thoose pills that choji uses in the manga is the closest thing to steroids. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/happy.gif

[Terracosmo]

Asuma ISN&#39;T related to Sarutobi.

As somebody already said, Sarutobi is the first name of the 3rd &amp; the last name of Asuma.
If he was even just a relative to either the 3rd or Konohamaru I am pretty darned sure the manga would have shown that already, what&#39;s with the 3rd&#39;s burial and all.

My guess is that Asuma comes from a ninja family who changed their surname to Sarutobi to honor the 3rd. Doesn&#39;t that sound pretty good? It just came to mind.

[.akai]

I don&#39;t know whether or not both of them or related. I don&#39;t rule out the possibility though.

By the way, what made you all think that Sarutobi is 3rd&#39;s first name???

Sarutobi is a surname (last name).

[KakashiSensei]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (.akai &#064; Feb 17 2004, 11:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don&#39;t know whether or not both of them or related. I don&#39;t rule out the possibility though.

By the way, what made you all think that Sarutobi is 3rd&#39;s first name???

Sarutobi is a surname (last name). </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
well for one all the sensei&#39;s are reffered to by the first name.
Kakashi-Sensei
Gai-Sensei
Asuma-Sensei

You never hear them say Hatake-Sensei

Hell we dont even know Gai&#39;s last name.

And you cant say that Oro is showing respect for saying the last name of his old teacher istead of the first name, The only thing he has is contempt for the 3rd. And i think the whole idea of him saying that was to reveal that the 3rd was his teacher.

[PSJ]

just what akai. said sarutobi is a surname. it is used so much in ninja animes because a legendary ninja was named Sarutobi Sasuke. but as far as we know asuma is not related to konohamaru and 3rd. altho we have no proof that sarutobi is 3rds surname BUT we have no proof that it is his firstname either.


kakashisensei speak for yourself about gai. i for one knows his surname. if you guys wanna know then ill tell ya. gai&#39;s surname is maito. his name is Maito Gai.

[itachi_]

Who&#39;s Konohamaru&#39;s father?

[Uzumaki Kakashi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Feb 17 2004, 11:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Who&#39;s Konohamaru&#39;s father? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
no body knows yet.


so just to sum up, the thrid hokage is saurtobi (his first name) and known as saru by the 1st and 2nd. most people have nicknames with their FIRST name like robert can be bob or rob.

also asuma&#39;s last name is sarutobi, no reltaion. besides all the students call their teachers by first name as said earlier.

and konohamru would have atleawst been seen with asuma if somehow asuma is related to the 3rd hokage. since konohamru is the grandson.

[Legendary Nin]

Asuma is the smoking specialist.The ninja that smokes more than Joe Camal.

[itachi_]

Let&#39;s clearify some things

Hokage3rd name is <u>Sarutobi</u> his last name is unknown

Asuma&#39;s name is <u>Asuma</u> his last name is Sarutobi


My theory, they&#39;re not releated.

[TeLeKiNeSiS]

he&#39;s going to get lung cancer someday, i tell ya...



anyway, on topic: asuma seems pretty good, and i agree with the balance idea...
as for relation to sarutobi....i betcha ...

3rd hokage had a son, asuma, who then had an affair with kurenai, who gaven birth to konohamaru, who was given to hokage to take care of because a sexy jounin like her is too busy to take care of her own son? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif just a guess http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Uzumaki Kakashi]

thanks for saying exactly what i jsust said.

lol

[sangai]

not every body gets cancer

besides he&#39;ll probably get killed before the lung cancer takes over

hokage smoked a pipe which is much worse and the cancer didn&#39;t get him

[Terracosmo]

Good points.

But&#33;

1) So they are similar hair-wise. But you know, both Tsunade &amp; Anko have big boobs and they are (probably) not related. (Good example huh?)

2) Having the ho sign is probably not strange since he could very well use it to honor the mighty leader, Hokage.

I still say that they aren&#39;t related and if they were the manga would have shown it by now.

[Reason]

Just to add a few more pic, these are from 70..

http://darkspace.sylea.org/staffdir/Reason/Image050.jpg

http://darkspace.sylea.org/staffdir/Reason/Image051.jpg

I think he might be related, we will find out sooner or later...

The Hokage Families are somewhat hidden to us since everyone calls them by their Title...the one exception was Orochimaru calling The Third &quot;Sarutobi-Sensi&quot; Anything based off this is pure speculation...

- Reason -

[Insomniac]

if they were related then why wasnt Asuma a main morner at the 3rd&#39;s death?
wouldnt he have been centered on if he was related?
theres no reason for any family tie to the 3rd to be revealed about him anymore since the 3rd is dead.
if they are related (i doubt it) then we&#39;ll never know because it makes no sense to say it now.

[Reason]

Actually, it would tie into Konohomaru...kinda like how they are bringing in him to support the 3rd atm in the Anime...

- Reason -

[PSJ]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Feb 18 2004, 11:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if they were related then why wasnt Asuma a main morner at the 3rd&#39;s death?
wouldnt he have been centered on if he was related?
theres no reason for any family tie to the 3rd to be revealed about him anymore since the 3rd is dead.
if they are related (i doubt it) then we&#39;ll never know because it makes no sense to say it now. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ppl have diffrent ways of mourn(sp?) the dead. everybody doesnt cry over the coffin... some ppl keeps it inside some ppl lets it out in other ways like work and stuff.. it is possible for a person to be related to someone and not cry on their funeral..

[Death BOO Z]

it doesn&#39;t change the fact he wasn&#39;t shown in the funral, even if he wasn&#39;t cyring, i would expect him to be there for konohamaru, but in the manga, konohamaru was shown with iruka, implying that he also doesn&#39;t have a father image other than iruka...

[PSJ]

from what i remember he was there. ill check it up now.


EDIT: asuma was there standing with all the other jounins but we dont know what he did after that. after that its just flashbacks and naruto talking.

[snoogins]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gaara &#064; Feb 17 2004, 12:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sarutobi is the Hokage&#39;s nick name bakas, as in &#39;Monkey&#39;..because he looks like one, summons one, and even has the same voice as another character that is nick named Sarutobi, which would be the chief in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, actually the chief in all of the GITS is nick named Sarutobi too..He has the same hair cut as hokage without the hat lols, and has the same facial characteristics.. as in* OLD MAN SARUTOBI&#33; old monkey man, you&#39;ll understand later on silly people. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

For a start your not japanese ... idiot (see not baka)

And he looks nothing like a monkey Kishimoto was actually going to make Sarutobi a fox and they kept the fox like features in his character designs. I read this on a website and when i get home from college i will did out the link and show you the original designs with him on the hokage mountain the character designs and the whole interview.

[Vagabond]

Well another possiblity is that Sarutobi is his only name. Kinda like Jiraiya, Orochimaru, and Tsunade. None of them really have surnames.

[lasaire]

That&#39;s actually what I was thinking. In older Japanese eras, people of lower classes didn&#39;t have last/family names (myo) unless they somehow earned them or were granted them as a favor by a daimyo. In that case, their name was turned into a surname and then passed onto their descendants. Perhaps, since the 3rd came from the early era of the Leaf, he didn&#39;t come from a noble family and distinguished himself by eventually becoming Hokage. From then on, he wanted to pass his name on as the family name to his children.

Granted, this is only speculation. But perhaps Asuma isn&#39;t directly related...he could always be a nephew or cousin, hence why he&#39;s not particularly close to Konohamaru.

[Raven]

Maybe Asuma and Konohamaru are close, we&#39;ve never seen them together. We don&#39;t see them 24/7, who&#39;s to say they&#39;re not?

[PSJ]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lasaire @ Feb 19 2004, 05:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> That&#39;s actually what I was thinking. In older Japanese eras, people of lower classes didn&#39;t have last/family names (myo) unless they somehow earned them or were granted them as a favor by a daimyo. In that case, their name was turned into a surname and then passed onto their descendants. Perhaps, since the 3rd came from the early era of the Leaf, he didn&#39;t come from a noble family and distinguished himself by eventually becoming Hokage. From then on, he wanted to pass his name on as the family name to his children.

Granted, this is only speculation. But perhaps Asuma isn&#39;t directly related...he could always be a nephew or cousin, hence why he&#39;s not particularly close to Konohamaru. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
but if sarutobi didnt have any other name and didnt get one even tho he became hokage and no one of the sannin got a surname isnt it strange that sakura got one?

[Raven]

I get the impression that Sakura is from a high upperclass family (in terms of wealth, not nin skill) so maybe that&#39;s why she has one. It&#39;s just a hunch I have, from seeing her house early in the series and just from the way she&#39;s been brought up and acts.

[Augury]

Where have people found out surnames of several jounins like Maito or Sarutobi (Gai / Asuma)? I don&#39;t recall ever seeing them in the anime or manga. Are people citing these from websites? The only one I can remember is Kakashi&#39;s (Hatake) because he tells team 7 when he introduces himself.

[Insomniac]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Maybe Asuma and Konohamaru are close, we&#39;ve never seen them together. We don&#39;t see them 24/7, who&#39;s to say they&#39;re not? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

then we can assume they dont know each other at all.
theres no way they could be related and never even talk, its an anime - if they&#39;re related it would have hinted at it at least once.
theres no need for them to be related either for story terms.

[lasaire]

Yes, Haku no Fuyu-san, that&#39;s a good point, but all the genin seem to call their teachers by their first name, and nobody ever addresses the Third as anything other than Hokage-sama or Sandaime-sama with the notable exception of Orochimaru. Actually, I believe that Orochimaru is the one who reveals the Third&#39;s name to us for the first time in doing so. With the other genin&#39;s tendency to address their sensei by the first name, and Orochimaru&#39;s notable lack of respect for his sensei, this makes me think Sarutobi is the Third&#39;s first name.

[Haku no Fuyu]

So...then all ninja are rude?

[Hatake Kakashi]

I really can&#39;t believe people still don&#39;t believe that Sarutobi-sensei and Asuma are related.

I think that the 3rd was close to becoming Hokage at the time he trained the Sannin and was highly respected, that is why they called him by his last name, Sarutobi-sensei.

Also Sandaime and Asuma...

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>JUST LOOK AT THE TWO OF THEM&#33;</span>

They both look a like, well as much as a 70 year old and 26-28 year old can...

I look for Asuma to be taking over the summoning chores of Enma perhaps later, or maybe another kind of monkey.

They are related, its so obvious they don&#39;t even have to state it.

They are also the ONLY TWO people to wear the Recca (Fire) Symbol on their clothing, Sandaime has it on his back and Asuma has it on his sash. Might not mean anything, but come on, lets be honest.....it might be a hint.

[SDShamshel]

Someone told me that in Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen 2, the profiles section has spinning Kabuto cards for all the characters, and that Asuma apparently is REALLY good if you go by the stats alone. And by good, he meant REALLY good.

On a side note, Baki (The Sand Jounin teacher) is also ridiculously good and Hinata is the worst in terms of overall stats.

Though that could probably answer you guys&#39; questions in terms of his abilities, if you could get a translation of that card.

[Haku no Fuyu]

Um....you do know that in Japan it is considered rude to call someone by their first name, unless you are family, or if you know them well (though nobody calls me Kakenuma-kun, just Yu-kun)...

[Power PMV]

First, Konohamaru, who we know is related to Sarutobi doesn&#39;t wear the symbol, so it&#39;s not a family thing.

Second, compare pictures of Sandaime when he was young with Asuma, they don&#39;t look alike at all. In fact Sandaime looks more like Shikamaru&#39;s dad.

[.akai]

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Erm... in fact, the pictures of young 3rd led me into thinking that Asuma and 3rd are related.
I thought they look rather similar. Anyway, this is just my opinion.

[SigmaAlpha2]

i havent ruled out the possibility of asuma and sandaime being related...i think that maybe ninjas in orochimarus day were probally more respectful to elders...moreover i want to not a few things

1. we dont know konohamarus last name so its impossible to say that asuma may be his father because he may be the son of the hokages daughter

2. to play devils advocate...looking like some one doesnt mean that they are realated...we may have all been told once that we look like a particular celeberty

3. it was noted by someone (i dont feel like looking for it again) that all we know about naruto and yondaimes relation is their resemblence and we dont know that fourths name... well... theirs a good chance that naruto made his own name up

4. who is that black haired kid with the straw in his mouth that was trained by the fourth with kakashi...i think it may be asuma

[Chi Chi]

That kid is more likely an Uchiha who got killed during battle due to a mistake of Kakashi. I think Asuma and the sandaime are related but just not very close.

[Everon]

The person with the black hair, could be Asuma, could be Genma (dude with toothpick), could even be a dead person.

We'll probably find out soon enough. Along with if Asuma is related to Sarutobi or not. For now we can't assume they are.