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Jiraiy4
Sat, 02-07-2004, 08:39 AM
After Jiraiya informs Kakashi of Akatsuki, Kakashi asks </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>&quot;and that person is the &quot;nine tails&quot; isn&#39;t it? Are you sure of this?&quot; </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> then Jiraiya replys </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>&quot;It&#39;s very likely. It&#39;s chakra is one of the strongest. After all, it is one of the Youma&quot;</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Exactly what are they talking about?

Raven
Sat, 02-07-2004, 10:01 AM
Akatsuki is after the kyubi. &quot;that person&quot; is a translation error, as obviously the demon fox isn&#39;t a person.

He&#39;s saying &quot;Akatsuki is after a certain person.&quot;

Then your quote comes in: &quot;and that person is the &quot;nine tails&quot; isn&#39;t it? Are you sure of this?&quot;

&quot;It&#39;s very likely. It&#39;s chakra is one of the strongest. After all, it is one of the Youma&quot;

The Youma are the legendary demons of which the kyubi is one of, if not the strongest, not sure.

Uzumaki Kakashi
Sat, 02-07-2004, 10:20 AM
if anybody knows anything about the youma, im very intersted like if someone has a site giving info and maybe pics of how they are represented that would be awesome.

thanks

Jiraiy4
Sat, 02-07-2004, 10:21 AM
wait...youma and kyuubi are totally different right? They both are part of the legendary demons?

Uzumaki Kakashi
Sat, 02-07-2004, 10:26 AM
youma is the group of legendary demons of japanese myth. kyubi is supposed to be the strongest and most dangerious of the 9. i just want to find out about the other 8. foxes are supposed to be very strong as is, but the fact that the nine-tails has lived for thousands of years (we know this b/c after like a 1000 years the get any extra tail)

Chi Chi
Sun, 02-08-2004, 05:22 AM
So it seems that there are 9 Youma and 9 A. members. So it seems that they each want a demon.

Jiraiy4
Sun, 02-08-2004, 05:28 AM
yea ...each of the nine akatsuki member seem to be after the chakra of the youmas.

Kumiriko
Sun, 02-08-2004, 05:33 AM
it be intresting to see naruto if he lost the 9 tales

Everon
Sun, 02-08-2004, 05:59 AM
Yeah it would be interesting for Naruto to lose his Kyuubi, I wonder if Naruto&#39;s life is tied to the fox, like if they remove the fox, Naruto will begin to leak chakra till he dies/ regains the demon fox.

No idea what the other 8 demons are. Is Gaara&#39;s sand badger one?

XwingRob
Sun, 02-08-2004, 06:17 AM
Wait isn&#39;t there only currently 8 member of Atasuki? Since Orochamaru left?

PSJ
Sun, 02-08-2004, 06:41 AM
no it is still 9 members actually we dont know the number of members before orochimaru left if they found a guy to take orochimarus place or if they were 10 before. and no gaara&#39;s &quot;demon&quot; is a sand preist not a real demon.

Hatake Kakashi
Sun, 02-08-2004, 06:44 AM
I think at the conclusion of the series, the Kyubi will get loose, and Hokage Naruto will have to beat it himself. Relying on his own chakra and guts.

_Sasuke_
Sun, 02-08-2004, 08:24 AM
so does anybody know which other youma demons there are besides the Kyubi?

PSJ
Sun, 02-08-2004, 08:49 AM
i dont know if it counts as a youma but there is the tanuki... it is also some kind of creature in japanese mythology.

Hotsuma
Sun, 02-08-2004, 10:54 AM
Maybe each of the 8 tales (excluding Kyuubi&#39;s own) is actually the 8 other Youma. It&#39;s a thought.

At the end, Naruto will lose his Kyuubi power, unless he becomes so reliant upon it, that he refuses to hand it over. Then, it&#39;d be lame.

Kind of like when Grahf beats your ass in Xenogears w/Alpha Weltall the time you reach the sunken ship, and then tells you you lost, because you were relying on &quot;System Id&quot; (which is basically an evil version of Fei..but, only a lot deeper and cooler), instead of your own strength. Same thing here.

Naruto will probably become more powerful, even without the Kyuubi. Actually, I don&#39;t think the council would want somebody with a demon in his soul, to lead Konoha.

Uzumaki Kakashi
Sun, 02-08-2004, 11:02 AM
i doubt the other 8 youma are going to be used in the manga b/c then it would become a mythological anime.

maybe one or two more would be ok, maybe in another ninja.

thata would be a cool enemy.

no gaara&#39;s demon is a sand preist reincarnated into a badger. (go figure)

does anyboyd know the other youma like what are they and what animal do they represent?

i doubt the akatsuki want the other demons but just kyubi , like y for other when u can get the strongesdt which can defeat all other 8 that would be awesome.

Insomniac
Mon, 02-09-2004, 02:30 AM
if you guys noticed

when he says &#39;that person&#39; theres a panel with Orochimaru.

XwingRob
Mon, 02-09-2004, 02:47 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pervert&#045;Sennin Jiraiya &#064; Feb 8 2004, 05:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> no it is still 9 members actually we dont know the number of members before orochimaru left if they found a guy to take orochimarus place or if they were 10 before. and no gaara&#39;s &quot;demon&quot; is a sand preist not a real demon. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
OK, I wasn&#39;t sure.
One theory I have is that once Atasuki realizes that it will be too difficult to steal Kyuubi, they will try to entice Naruto to the dark side.

Edit: I agree with your theory, Hatake Kakashi, that fight will be awesome.

Mut
Mon, 02-09-2004, 02:53 AM
there were originally 9 members. now there are 8 after orochimaru left.

the remaining 8 members split into 4 groups of 2.

Hatake Kakashi
Mon, 02-09-2004, 03:38 AM
A common mistake is that people believe that Kabuto was in Akatsuki as well, but I doubt that. Some say he was Orochimaru&#39;s partner, but that wouldn&#39;t make sense, because he was undercover in Konoha his whole life practically.

Orochimaru might have been the odd man out in Akatsuki from the start though.

Hatake Kakashi
Mon, 02-09-2004, 03:59 AM
That chapter you guys are refering to seems to be translated so bad, it doesn&#39;t even make sense. They talk about the Kyubi as if it is still alive and it is a person almost.

I can&#39;t wait for the anime to catch up to this, so we know what the hell they are really saying.

PSJ
Mon, 02-09-2004, 05:24 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Feb 9 2004, 07:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> there were originally 9 members. now there are 8 after orochimaru left.

the remaining 8 members split into 4 groups of 2. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
and i suppose you know kishimoto since you write this with such confidence? no one knows how many they are, how many they were or what they want naruto for.

Uzumaki Kakashi
Mon, 02-09-2004, 05:54 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya @ Feb 9 2004, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz &#064; Feb 9 2004, 07:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> there were originally 9 members. now there are 8 after orochimaru left.

the remaining 8 members split into 4 groups of 2. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
and i suppose you know kishimoto since you write this with such confidence? no one knows how many they are, how many they were or what they want naruto for. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
good point. we dont know until kishomto tels us through his manga.

i think i rmber learning about the youma a while ago. the fox is one, so is tiger, and i think turtle is (i could be wrong about that one though) and also i beleve there is some bird.

i just kind find any site to confirm what the youma are.

me sad http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

Raven
Mon, 02-09-2004, 07:34 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hotsuma @ Feb 8 2004, 09:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Maybe each of the 8 tales (excluding Kyuubi&#39;s own) is actually the 8 other Youma. It&#39;s a thought. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Interesting theory.....

I think one of the others is a turtle, and another is a lizard.... but I have no idea of any specifics or their names.... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

Mut
Mon, 02-09-2004, 07:34 AM
i&#39;m just stating what jiraiya said. everything else beyond that, even if it&#39;s an assumption, is false until it&#39;s stated later. so, what i said is 100% true according to what we have been presented with so far.

hyuga_hinata
Mon, 02-09-2004, 07:45 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz &#064; Feb 9 2004, 01:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>there were originally 9 members. now there are 8 after orochimaru left.

the remaining 8 members split into 4 groups of 2.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ooh, 8 groups of 2... Naruto will become their Leader&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif

RockingRocklee
Mon, 02-09-2004, 12:55 PM
&quot;Seiryuu&quot; (Azure Dragon)

&quot;Genbu&quot; (Black Tortoise)

&quot;Byakko&quot; (White Tiger)

&quot;Suzaku&quot; (Red Bird)

I could only find the name of 4 of the youma..........I also found out that the 8 youma are not all really demons just powerful mystical animals.....


also &quot;youma&quot; is the name of some asian porn star........so i had trouble searching it up......