PMK

[Xollence]

I don't know why I keep on downloading the newer episodes. NOTHING interesting ever happens. Anyone have any idea how many episodes are planned on being made?

[XwingRob]

I'm very curious too.

[Shinji Ikari]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Xollence @ Feb 2 2004, 03:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don&#39;t know why I keep on downloading the newer episodes. NOTHING interesting ever happens. Anyone have any idea how many episodes are planned on being made? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Check out the other PMK thread.... I suggest someone lock this thread up.

[DDBen]

as the other topic refers to where to find episodes I am unlocking this topic as this is a topic about how this anime has nothing interesting EVER happen. I completely agree this anime bores the hell out of me as they just never seem to do a thing every episode your like this should be good and it always disappoints maybe a season or 2 from now it could have a chance of making me care.

[JessiA]

It would have made sense to let the longer thread with the posts full of discussion and not general bellyaching stay open, since that&#39;s where most of the information is.... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif


Anyway, I guess here&#39;s a nice recap of what I gleaned from the other thread. There were rumours about it being 24 or 26.. or even 52. Someone suggested that it would be about Rurouni Kenshin length, because it was taking a nice casual route.. a lighthearted episode, an episode that contains story, a couple of mixed episodes, and so on. And that, though anyone who&#39;s seen it prolly already knows, it&#39;s based loosely off of actual events in Japan&#39;s history.

My personal thing is, I like it. I wish they would give us more story than the little tidbits they use to entice us... but I don&#39;t mind it. Even the episodes that have nothing to do with the story at all are funny as heck and don&#39;t feel out of place...

[[VTi]]

I agree with that the serious is a total mystery..

its good for a few laughs but in 16 episodes almost NOTHING happened.. and wassup with all the gayish ppl.. BTW NO OFFENCE to the homosexual. But it sometimes seems there is more homos that heteroes in PMK http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

[Hakeem_21]

I like the comedy in PMK even if nothing happen in a ep its very funny.
Tatsu killed me when he get angry cause Tetsu went to the funhouse:D
I have watched a lot of anime the last couple of monts but never a anime with so many great characters. Just think how good it will get when the story starts to move;)

I like the Saitou in PMK but i must say that the Saitou in Kenshin was cooler and looked cooler than the one in PMK

[XwingRob]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([VTi] @ Feb 3 2004, 02:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I agree with that the serious is a total mystery..

its good for a few laughs but in 16 episodes almost NOTHING happened.. and wassup with all the gayish ppl.. BTW NO OFFENCE to the homosexual. But it sometimes seems there is more homos that heteroes in PMK http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
You mean the people who looked feminine?
My understanding was in Japan&#39;s history some famous killers looked like women at first glance.
I guess it was a style back then. But I don&#39;t like it.

[itachi_]

I&#39;m kinda new with this PMK thing, but what are the release days for AonE&#39;s version?

[Hakeem_21]

Itachi we cant talk about where or when to download PMK cause it was because of that the last PMK topic was closed. If you have any questions about downloading PMK just write me a PM.

[Munsu]

They didnt close the thread because we where talking about where to get PMK, on the contrary, they closed it because the thread was off-topic... originally it was a thread of where to find PMK but we went off-topic and started discussing the anime instead

[Hakeem_21]

I know that but if we go off-topic agian and talk about things when PMK is out then this topic will get closed to.


I hope that we can talk about the anime in here;)

[villin]

What&#39;s the big deal with where to download it? I have never watched it and have barely even heard about it but it only took me about 3 seconds to find every episode for download with BT. It not like its some big secret. You are all nuts.

[DDBen]

going off topic is completely fine but the other thread was simply a question that was answered to me this is a general discussion if you ask a question within it its perfectly fine and the thread will not be closed.

[Hakeem_21]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Feb 5 2004, 10:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You didn&#39;t answer my question...

Release days of AONE&#39;s PMK usually? Thursdays? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I looked and its out in Thursdays or Friday.

[[VTi]]

ep 17 is out, still cant say it gotten anybetter http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

Dunno why I even bother watching http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

need some better anime to follow http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif

[JessiA]

Dude, I&#39;ve seen 16, and I say it&#39;s getting better. They&#39;ve finally added a plot element from that one crazy dude that&#39;s going to last more than one episode long.. and we (hopefully) will get to know more about him and those involved with that plot...

There&#39;s more, but I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve got my facts totally in order at the moment (Just woke up http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif ).. but, yeah. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif Looks like the next few episodes will be good.


And if you find the show boring, why download it? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif

[itachi_]

When does AonE usually release their version on PMK? because i like AonE the best, Lunar just listen &quot;Lunar&quot;, it sounds gay to me.

[Death BOO Z]

Lunar are the Sayiaman of PMK...
high speed but zero quality...
their kareoke is &quot;you&#39;re gonna feel SOUL&quot;, which is just so wrong, and the spelled vibaration like this &quot;VYBARATION&quot; and the generally suck.

just do youselves a favor and stay with your AONE&#092;AF_F group, who actually know both jappneese and english.

[itachi_]

You didn&#39;t answer my question...

Release days of AONE&#39;s PMK usually? Thursdays?

[Xollence]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Death BOO Z @ Feb 5 2004, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Lunar are the Sayiaman of PMK...
high speed but zero quality...
their kareoke is &quot;you&#39;re gonna feel SOUL&quot;, which is just so wrong, and the spelled vibaration like this &quot;VYBARATION&quot; and the generally suck.

just do youselves a favor and stay with your AONE&#092;AF_F group, who actually know both jappneese and english. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Hehe, Sayaiman isn&#39;t that bad. jappneese

[itachi_]

Er&#33;&#33;??. Where is AonE&#39;s version then? it&#39;s friday today.

[joker-kun]

Exacly its friday, friday is not yet over, which means they still have till the end of the day, besides are they not allowed to be late. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

[Munsu]

PMK 17 just came out... hope is a good episode... get it here at gotwoot:

http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents/ ('http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents/')[AonE]_Peace_Maker_Kurogane_-_17_[B5F9664E].avi.torrent

[XwingRob]

Man I&#39;m sorta pissed at episode 17. I mean I thought those weird gay guys were going to be a enemy that will be hard to defeat, but instead he got defeated by one, flaming arrow.

[Munsu]

Yeah... but it is impossible to be that gay and be tough to beat... But what worries me the most is the guy that is always doing spells

[XwingRob]

Yeah, that spell guy is quite dangerous.
What I&#39;m wondering: When is the main character gonna start fighting??&#33;?&#33;?&#33;

[Munsu]

Probably around episode 45... right after his brother get seriously injured

[itachi_]

Geez&#33; what a &quot;gay&quot;anime, it ain&#39;t impossible to think that the animators are gay too, because they have a gay-story with a lot of gay-characters... there&#39;s alot of gay-looking people too, just look at Okita-san... back to episode 17


Did that Kichisaburou-gay died to? he didn&#39;t get hit by a firearrow...

[Munsu]

Episode 18 is out get it NOW&#33;&#33;

http://a.scarywater.net/aone/%5BAonE%5D_Pe...%5D.avi.torrent ('http://a.scarywater.net/aone/%5BAonE%5D_Peace_Maker_Kurogane_-_18_%5B9B89100D%5D.avi.torrent')

[itachi_]

Er? that ain&#39;t a news? It&#39;s been out atleast 12 hours, In this epsiode you could almost see some nudity.. The next epsiode is going to be great alot of blood.

[itachi_]

I&#39;m expecting alot from PMK, if it turns out the good way it can be one of the &quot;good&quot; animes or it could turn out the bad way, end at 24 and all the questions will be unanswered..

[Munsu]

I really doubt it would end at 24... we&#39;are just about to start the revolution... and on top of that there are still more things to be developed...

Tetsu for one has to develop some skills and I doubt that he would be able to by episode 24

[Munsu]

Very nice episode... but am i crazy or the scene where they find out about Ayane was shown on a previous episode... dont remember which one though... anyone remembers?

It is probably a recent one, but my memory is not functioning right now

[phreakatron]

I&#39;ve been watching this for the past week and am caught up now.

At first I was extremely annoyed at how Tetsu acts. I mean he&#39;s 15, not 11. Anyway, I got over it, especially since he started getting better about it. The gay-factor also bothered me at first, but then I didn&#39;t care. Now I just think its funny. The story also shows great promise to me. If it is cut short I will be quite upset because this has worked its way up towards the top of my most looked forward to episodes list. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_gap.gif

[Tetsu-kun]

Sooo any idea when the next episode will be subbed and released?

[Munsu]

In three days

[itachi_]

I recently spoked to julianivre who&#39;s raw providing for PMK, it&#39;s ready but the distro-team is AFK, that&#39;s sad... I&#39;ve seen PMK 19 but that was Lunar&#39;s version.. not that bad, but AonE is more reasonable..

[Tetsu-kun]

Yea I would rather wait for the AonE subs because it&#39;s usually a much better quality. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif

[Hakeem_21]

We need a new feamle character now that Ayane is gone cause now its only male characters. Ayane was a good character why must she you know what&#33;&#33;

Im also annoyed about Tetsu acting like he was 10 years old. Looked at the kid with white hair he dont act like a child http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

[Munsu]

Has anyone found out yet in what episode do we see the scene of Ayane being captured before episode 19?

[itachi_]

Was she being captured?, I thought she just went off for a trip..

[Munsu]

Well the scene that she just had sex with the guy and then they abush her because they know she was a spy... i&#39;m sure that&#39;s in another episode other than 19, but dont remember wich and the previous episodes I dont have them with me

[itachi_]

It&#39;s bad that the series will end at episode 24... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif

[Munsu]

I doubt it will be 24 episodes... I think that it is a misleading idea like the one in Chrono Crusade where everyone thought it will be 13 but there were more

[itachi_]

Yeah but look at the fact we&#39;ve got, there haven&#39;t been a &#39;BIG&#39; thing yet, it probably is some kind of unserious anime, that they make just for fun and not give a damn about the story, i think the following episodes will be the same as the 19 episodes so far, nothing have actually happend, i wonder why i&#39;m still watching it?
I want to see more of Saitou and the choshu&#39;s..

[Munsu]

Well the revolution is about to start... we still havent seen a confrontation between Tetsu and the white haired kid, we still havent found out what the peace maker is or what he is supposed to do, or who he is... I think there is plenty more to come


I wish I could read japanese to understand their website

[Hakeem_21]

I think Ayana gets captured in ep 18.


Itachi&gt; PMK isnt nere the end cause if you follow the show you know that the war will begin very soon. Th &quot;bad guys&quot; is getting ready to burn down Kyoto.

[itachi_]

But it is stated on all sites that the series will end at episode 24.. on the official too.

[Hakeem_21]

Give a link to several PMK sites so i can read for myself.

If it ends after only 24 ep then it is the worst anime ever&#33;

[Munsu]

This is the official... i think they only have up to episode 24 on air time... I hope it is a longer series because it will be indeed a shitty series if it ended at 24

http://www.pm-kurogane.com/main.html ('http://www.pm-kurogane.com/main.html')

And if you understand what they say can you please let us know

Oh yeah.. Itachi_ can you post more sites? The other one i&#39;ve seen is a site with many other series and their air time... but that site is known not to really show the total episodes like it did with Chrono Crusade... dont remember link though

[Hakeem_21]

I cant speak japanese so.

Isnt there another site in englisk you can read about the news you guys are talking about.

[itachi_]

For example on animenewsnetwork it says total numbers of episodes: 24...

[DDBen]

I&#39;m curious being we all agree that so far the series has gone absolutely nowhere even if by some miricle every site was incorrect and it was going to run longer then 24 episodes then why would that suddenly make it even remotely good? Its still got atleast at this point 19 worthless episodes and chances are had it started at episode 25 we wouldn&#39;t have missed a thing.

[Munsu]

Episode 20 is out...

It was an awesome episode... I think the best one so far...



<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://_Peace_Maker_Kurogane_-_20_[9F7AB0C0].avi.torrent
]http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents/[AonE]_Peace_Maker_Kurogane_-_20_[9F7AB0C0].avi.torrent
">http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents/[AonE</a>

[itachi_]

Awesome episode, finally somethings starting to happen... This is real PMK, this is the way it should be, I really liked it when he chopped off the fingers of that samurai...

I still think that Tetsu is immature and need to grow up and not whine like a pussy, He's 15 comon, and the only thing he did was hiding

[Munsu]

I want to see your reaction in the same situation... you would probably pull out your fake samurai picture to try to intimidate lol..

anyways... I just can't imagine it ending at 24 now that i've seen how good episode 20 was... and yeah that chopping of fingers was the turning point for me

[itachi_]

I would have picked up suzu's sword and try my best atleast, It's unacceptable if it's done by episode 24, when it's getting interesting from now on...

[Terracosmo]

PMK is the worst fucking anime ever made. The creators should be tortured slowly and shot while their families watch.

[phreakatron]

Wow I really really really liked this episode. I also plan to shoot someone at this point if it ends at 24. They could drag this show out for a long long time and I would still love it.

I want Tetsu to become mature. I want to find out the history of his father. I want to know more about why his father was killed. Stuff like this.

[Hakeem_21]

If i were in Tetsus shoes i would escape and make Okita or Saitou train me now that i know who my parents killer is.
This ep was the best so far i hope the next ep is as good.
I hope Suzumu kill masuya after Hijakata is finished with him cause he deserves a very ugly dead for killing the wonderful Ayane.

[itachi_]

Episode 22 is gonna be the tell-all, man look at the preview and the title of the episode "War" I can't wait!

[Vagabond]

i really hope this isn't the end of the series.i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif

[itachi_]

No because it's atleast 24 episodes that is stated, but to be honest it's prolly is 24 episodes... This fight will end at shinsengumis advantage and then there will be shit-chat with tetsu and the other i a few eps then it will be over, maybe the series will quit when he become a real shinsegumi member

[Vagabond]

Yeah but they still haven't explained the relationship between that one guys with the gun (can't remember his name) and tetsu father.

Oh and i think something is gonna happen to Okita cause in like the first epsiode you hear tetsu shouting his name.

[itachi_]

Did you know that The real Okita died of tuberculosis in 1864,,, you've already seen that he's coughing blood, he'll die soon, because it's already 1864... and it's reasonable that they will follow the history..

[Vagabond]

wow you know your shinsengumi history.i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

[itachi_]

I guess I've read too many books about them, watched too many documentarys and films, I've been researching alot lately, I know my thing,,

[Vagabond]

I found a cool site with some discriptions of the squad leaders.
here (http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Pagoda/5770/shinhis.htm)
Also on the homepage there is a discription of the guy kenshin was modeled after.

Edit: Oh yeah, they also talk about the Ryoma guy in PMK

Edit again: Kinda off topic but I recently read that genki made a shinsengumi game for ps2. I think its out in japan right now.

[Xollence]

Interesting site, never knew the characters in the anime were real people.

[itachi_]

Duh? A few people in Kenshin was based on real living persons also, Saitou, Okita etc.

[Vagabond]

Whoa 22 was fucking awesome. Can't wait to see tetsu fight.

[itachi_]

Agreed...but...

Tetsu is a pussy he don't deserve to be in PMK, let's watch more of Okita, Sanosuke, Kondo, Saitou, Hijikata, it's those who bring the life out of PMK... tetsu ruin everything acting like a freaking queer.

[PSJ]

tetsu isnt that bad, he was cool in ep 22 when he stopped yoshida's attack and everyone was like wtf? this show is quite cool, but it cant end after 24 eps can it? when does the raw of this show releases?

[itachi_]

It sure can, in episode 01 there is a flashback of episode 22 which means that it's about to end there, it will end in episode 24 no doubt, when Tetsu get that girl, saya? and have finally become a member of the shinsengumi, but we haven't really got an answer to that guy said something about "peacemaker".

[Egan1]

If it's going to end within two episodes then there's either going to have to be a huge amount of info crammed in a very short space, or lots of questions will be left unanswered.

[Lz]

does anyone know which fansub is releasing episode 22 and where i can find it?

[itachi_]

PMK 22 has been released by Lunaranime, prolly AonE soon, it was in QCv3 2 days ago, anyway you can find lunar's at #lunaranime @ rizon, there are plenty of bots there.

[Wolfsbane68]

itachi_, check your facts, Okita died in 1868 not right after the Ikedaya affair.

[itachi_]

Sorry, you're right, I meant 1868, I've got a documentary 180 minutes long just about shinsengumi, he died in 1868.

[Hakeem_21]

Cool that mean Okita-san wont die now atleast yeahi/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Itachi: Where did you get the documentary om Shinsengumi?

In history we are gonna start reading about Japans history,im gonna try to put in something Shinsengumi in cause the teacher said we can choose what period to read.


Itachi you are pretty good with japanese history it seems. When did the revolution begin and end. The name of the emporer then?

[itachi_]

Er?? what revolution?

The tokugawa family became shoguns in 1604, four years after the battle of Seikigahara, and they ruled until 1868, when a young man called Meiji was choosen to become Japan's new emperor..

And between 1864 and 1868 there was a some wars, one of them called the boshin wars etc, Shinsengumi was choosed to protect the shogun in Kyoto, that was their purpose, but shinsengumi was founded in 1863, and ended in 1868. Right after the battle at Ikedaya all went down for shinsengumi, with the politics etc, the chooshu had began moving and in that time, the last days(more like years) of the edo-era (1604-1868) was called bakumatsu.

well buy/download a movie called "When the last sword is drawn" (don't know the japanese title) then you'll get alot of facts, and it's a great movie also.

[Hakeem_21]

Thanks for the info and for film tip. I remember the most things you wrote from the begining of Kenshin anime.

[itachi_]

Good sites for info, more serious or less are

http://www.miburo.com
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Pagoda/5770/shinhis.htm
www.the-oro.com, (don't know what happend to that site)

there are more...

[Munsu]

Just watched 22... awesome episode... I wish there where more anime's with the type of animation in the sword fights... they are awesome!... what a good set of episodes... i would recommend for those people who stopped watching to pick it up again and bare with it until you get to these last few episodes because they have not been nothing short of spectacular

[Shinji Ikari]

Anyone know about ep 23? Shouldn't it be out today?

[Munsu]

if it's from lunar i dont know, but Aone just released 22 so if you mean aone i dont think so

[Shinji Ikari]

I mean Lunar, thy usually have their's out on thursday, have never gone wrong on that point actually.

[itachi_]

It says in their channel "PMK 23 --&gt; Delayed"

[Shinji Ikari]

Oh my god... How can that be after how the last ep ended.

[Munsu]

Well i take back what i said... Aone released 23

[itachi_]

Man,23 was good, but now it's confirmed that it's 24 episodes, 24 is the last one, *sad*

[Naszim]

its only 24 episodes......woah, thts prewtty short, i liked the serie *tear*

[Munsu]

Yeah... i loved the series... now i'm praying for another series, or another season in the future!

24 episodes wont satisfy me

[Baka-chan]

i'm so sad that was the last episode )= PMK is probably one of my favorite animes. hopefully there will be another season or something like that. i want to see more

[nikoflame]

i think it's very cool that there is a subtle form of yaoi in it

nothing's better than m2m love ^_^

[Shinji Ikari]

Man, how can they not make PMK any longer than 24 eps... It's so great.

[itachi_]

They could have done more episodes, they were at 1864 and shinsengumi remained until 1868, so... wtf

[PSJ]

but if it ends at 24 eps there will be some stuff unfinished right? what happened to that okita look-alike and Suzu probably wants to kill tetsu, the least they can do is have a fight between suzu and tetsu. at least have the show 26 eps and end it after tetsu's and suzu's fight.

[itachi_]

The Okita look-alike was killed... that was rather strange though, he came in one episode and died in the same, he was unneccesarily

[Munsu]

Actually two episodes... but who's counting?

[Shinji Ikari]

But one char they didn't show much of and who now seems pointless even having in the anime is Cowboy-dono... I mean, where does he come in the story now? Pisses me off i tell ya.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: itachi_
The Okita look-alike was killed... that was rather strange though, he came in one episode and died in the same, he was unneccesarily

he died? i thought that the other faggot was the only one that died.... this anime is strange they just keep bringing in characters and finish them of in an instant.. if they didnt have all the humour in the begining it could have been a great series, now its down to good.

[itachi_]

The series could have began at the ikeyada and end in 1868, like boshin wars, more wars against the imperalists, not like this, end at the ikeyada

[PSJ]

yea that would be good.

as a sidenote, i saw that movie "the last sword is drawn" it was quite good, entertaining-wise and info-wise but in production skills it wasnt that good. it could have been alot better.

[itachi_]

You learn alot from it atleast I do, And it's interesting... What do you mean "quite good", it kicked ass, if you're as obsessed with shinsengumi as I am ;P seriously it was very good.

[PSJ]

nah it wasnt very good but it was good. if it was better made it could have been awesome.

[itachi_]

Better made?, what was less good about it, I think that the actors were very look-alike to the real persons.. the costumes and the area where it was filmed was extremly good... music also.

[PSJ]

yea it was great in those aspects but it was a little to confusing who the main character was. and the had 2 very emotional and possbile endings. 1. when yoshimura was running towards the soldiers 2. when he commited seppuku. and there were to much chit-chat between yoshimura and himself before he commited seppuku. it was bad to waste those moments like that. and some other small things but i dont have the time to write them.

[itachi_]

Well I have read about this that the so called emperor archieved the power of Japan in 1868, Meiji Restoration, but what's the difference between a Shogun (Warlord) and a emperor both are like fidel castro, one man one power..? can anyone explain a lil' bit further..

I feel really strong about this movie, I always start to cry at the end, it's unbelieveable, I don't usually cry of movies but in this case it's special.

[kaoticus]

I saw a cool movie recently about shinsengumi. It was called Mibu gishi den. I recommend it. good movie.

[itachi_]

That's the movie we've been talking about, doh!, mibu gishi den aka when the last sword is drawn.

[OshadowO]

Originally posted by: itachi_
Well I have read about this that the so called emperor archieved the power of Japan in 1868, Meiji Restoration, but what's the difference between a Shogun (Warlord) and a emperor both are like fidel castro, one man one power..? can anyone explain a lil' bit further..

I feel really strong about this movie, I always start to cry at the end, it's unbelieveable, I don't usually cry of movies but in this case it's special.


I believe the emperor is a spiritual leader as well. TThus during teh shogunate he didn't have his political powers but remained as the spiritual leader. kinda like the pope.
The shogun was simply a dictator.

[PSJ]

okey the lunar sub of 24 has been out since thursday anyone seen it?

[itachi_]

No, this time I've decided to wait for AonE release just because it's the last episode, sigh, all the quality checkers are on vacation in AonE, bwah...

[OshadowO]

Lunar's sub is pretty good. Though I'm also waiting for AonE to finish my collectioni/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif
Just watch it, its a good ending i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Vagabond]

Yeah i've seen it. The ending sucks.

[Hakeem_21]

It was an okey ending not great but this anime was pretty damn good overall even if it was too short for my taste.


I read something about a movie on PMK is it true?

[Munsu]

Where did you read it though?

And for those of you that have read the manga... is it completed or still being worked on? How far did the anime go in the manga?

Maybe with some of those questions aswered we will be able to make appropiate speculations

[Hakeem_21]

I saw in that manga is in progress cause there have been 5 vol or 4 vol until now.


Here a link to animenetwork.com where you can see that their talking about a PMK movie. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=3995

[Munsu]

animeone just released episode 24... go and get it...

[itachi_]

hakeem_21 if you check the date when it was written it says 3rd of august 2003, that's long time ago.



posted on 2003-08-03 23:03:35 The official website of the upcoming Peacemaker Kurogane anime is now online, though it is only a splash page at present. Additionally, the live action Cutey Honey movie has a new site, but like Kurogane's, no content is yet available.

hmm do they mean that they don't have information about it yet?

[OshadowO]

wouldn't be surprised if they made a movie. I did a google search for shinsengumi after watching PMK and damn seems like these guys are uber popular. I saw some pics from a tv series based on shinsengumi but gotta say it looked cheesy as hell.

[itachi_]

Damn this series could've been so great, WHY!? did this anime end like this, in this episode and most others they just switched from character to character and nothing really happend, they said something about a choshu guy escaped to some place, they could've killed him, etc, all the characters, what happend and suzu the white-haired guy what happend he just sat there...

The only good thing with this episode was when that american-influence guy tried to sing the star spangled banner, LOL

Man this series, COULD'VE been the best one, but it ended up like this, this is sad, i'm crying!!!!!!

They started scenes that still dosen't got an answer, to many things that still need to be revealed but yet didn't

OshadowO: Can you link me for some shinsengumi sites, it's really intresting, I've found a few but I want to read more?

[OshadowO]

Originally posted by: itachi_
Damn this series could've been so great, WHY!? did this anime end like this, in this episode and most others they just switched from character to character and nothing really happend, they said something about a choshu guy escaped to some place, they could've killed him, etc, all the characters, what happend and suzu the white-haired guy what happend he just sat there...

The only good thing with this episode was when that american-influence guy tried to sing the star spangled banner, LOL

Man this series, COULD'VE been the best one, but it ended up like this, this is sad, i'm crying!!!!!!

They started scenes that still dosen't got an answer, to many things that still need to be revealed but yet didn't

OshadowO: Can you link me for some shinsengumi sites, it's really intresting, I've found a few but I want to read more?

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I actully liked the ending. I know they left a lot of issues unresolved (suzu especially) but it was nice to see Tetsu finally get accpetance, and tatsu come to terms with it. Plus the bit with Saya was touching.

I still dunno what the point was of the American Obssessed Samurai. Tho :/ Maybe I'll find the manga and they'll have more.

What's really sad is that reading up on history you know things are gonna go bad for the Shinsengumi from this point onwards. Okita dies soon, and the rest will go down fighting i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

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Anyway sites.... you might know these probably since most stuff i got was via google:/
Seems a lot of these reference animes (is it a surpirse i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif )
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Pagoda/5770/shinhis.htm
http://www.miburo.com/info/shinsen.html
http://ridgebackpress.com/heroes/shinsegumi.htm this one links to a book about samurai heroes.
http://nhkshinsengumi.tripod.com/ Humor shows a cheesy photo of a cast from a taiga drama based on our fave group i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinsengumi wikipedia
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0966740173/ref=pd_sim_books_1/103-9521869-6823022?v=glance&amp;s=books this one is from amazon.com a book about ryoma (the american guy) I was surprised to find out he's a real dude too:/ You can pick up some info about him from the reviews.

most of it is repeat info too:/

[Hakeem_21]

Originally posted by: itachi_
hakeem_21 if you check the date when it was written it says 3rd of august 2003, that's long time ago.



posted on 2003-08-03 23:03:35 The official website of the upcoming Peacemaker Kurogane anime is now online, though it is only a splash page at present. Additionally, the live action Cutey Honey movie has a new site, but like Kurogane's, no content is yet available.

hmm do they mean that they don't have information about it yet?


I know its old news but there is a site for the movie and its not out yet so the movie will surely come out soon.

Also the manga isnt over so maybe is will be like Hellsing a short anime but a long manga.






Okita dies soon, and the rest will go down fighting.


Hajima Saitou became very old so he didnt die in the wars. Im sure some of the other must have survived too.

[OshadowO]

from what I read most of the core members died. Saitou was the only one who really lived to a ripe old age and was successful.
Yamanami san gets assasinated by Okita after he tried to run away (Hijikata's Orders), Kondou San and Hijikata San both KIA. Don't know what happend to Sano or Shinpachai:/ I haven't read anything about the Ichimura bros. or Susumu so I guess they are fictitious. Course my info is the net and mostly seems fan sites so who knows:/
Its pretty sad story though either way you look at iti/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

[itachi_]

I can be almost 100 % sure about that the "ichimura" brothers weren't real living people, however I think that there was someone like kanichiro Yoshimura (Mibu gishi den) aka when the last sword is drawn", Kondou was assassinated not killed in action, he was killed by some choshu guy. but as you said hijikata was killed in action, hmm I thought that yamanami wasen't the real name of the vice-chief, did okita killed him? where did you read that?

EDIT: I didn't actually know that Japan had an emperor at the same time as a shogun, but he had no power back then..

[Hakeem_21]

Originally posted by: OshadowO
from what I read most of the core members died. Saitou was the only one who really lived to a ripe old age and was successful.
Yamanami san gets assasinated by Okita after he tried to run away (Hijikata's Orders), Kondou San and Hijikata San both KIA. Don't know what happend to Sano or Shinpachai:/ I haven't read anything about the Ichimura bros. or Susumu so I guess they are fictitious. Course my info is the net and mostly seems fan sites so who knows:/
Its pretty sad story though either way you look at iti/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif


Its sad story cause it was in the middle of wars and the shinsengumsi was protecting the "old" japan.

But at least the samurai was in controll for 600-700 years before the they lost their controll over japan.

[Vagabond]

He's right about the Yaminami thing. Also, i think Kondou was assassinated after the shogun resigned. (So at that time the shinsengumi were considered as outlaws)
The shinsengumi was disbanded after the boshin wars. I'm pretty sure Hijikata, Shinpachi, Saitou, and Sanosuke all survived that. Hijikata and sanosuke died shortly after and Shinpachi and saitou lived to like 70.

[itachi_]

That Wikepedia is great it has everything, it's true also, real fact, not bullshit... though the other sites were also good


You know yamanami-san in PMK, that guy with googles, that dosen't wield a katana, he died in 1865, one year after the anime ending, he was ordered by hijikata to commit seppuku in 1865...

Damn this thing with the tokugawa, shogun and shinsengumi is really intresting.

[XwingRob]

I just watched the final episode. There's quite a few unanswered questions, and a major issue still unresolved(Suzu).
(sigh) This series was a big waste of time.
I suppose there will be a sequel...but I probaly won't watch it.

I wouldn't be so critical of this series...if say, it was set in the modern times at a high school and was just about kids messin around(like Gokusen). But this series is set in a important time in Japan...surely it could have had a much better plot than what PMK had.

[OshadowO]

Originally posted by: XwingRob
I just watched the final episode. There's quite a few unanswered questions, and a major issue still unresolved(Suzu).
(sigh) This series was a big waste of time.
I suppose there will be a sequel...but I probaly won't watch it.

I wouldn't be so critical of this series...if say, it was set in the modern times at a high school and was just about kids messin around(like Gokusen). But this series is set in a important time in Japan...surely it could have had a much better plot than what PMK had.

Its a fair assesment. I started watching two weeks ago so I didn't have to wait in between the episodes as muchi/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif I really enjoyed the way it was drawn and animated. I thought its way better than most anime I've seen so far. Loved the fighting near the end of the series. Stylish.

I think the thing I like about this series more than the series itself was the fact that its based on the actual history and the characters within really were larger than life type samurai warriors back in the day. Like itachi said its incredibly interesting.

[XwingRob]

I suppose I would watch the sequel, BUT it would have to have a good saga, and with a lot more excellent fight scenes like in episode 23.
I don't hate the characters of PMK(well, except for that weird guy who got defeated by that flaming arrow). If PMK just had a better story though, it would have had been one of my favorites.

[LawnDawg]

I'm just glad AonE finished subbing it before ADV grabbed it (or did ADV grab it already, and AonE just felt like subbing the last ep?)

[LegendarySenninJiraiya]

i thought pmk was good, it couldve been better, faster moving, but who cares, this whole thing seems to be an intro to something bigger, if theres a sequel planned i would imagine it'd be more like waht we expected from it, tho i think too many of us were spoiled by kenshin or expecting a kenshin, but i just watch without expectations if its good its good if not, oh well, it really upset me that this was the ending tho cause i wanted to know more first, but i figure when/if this anime picks up in the form of a sequel, which it should after an ending like that, it'd come out really cool, sorta like how i couldnt even stay awake through Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring but when LOTR: Two Towers came out it was great

[itachi_]

btw, the intro and outro was also very good in PMK... You gonna feel &amp; hey jimmy.

[Vagabond]

Anime Keep just released a PMK special. Is that 24 or something else?

[Munsu]

Actually download it now... it has cut scenes for the upcoming PMK Movie... and it also finishes up some things that where left hanging for exaple Suzumu

[Vagabond]

Wow the movie is gonna be awesome. The animation looks 10 times better. Everyone should download this.

[Hakeem_21]

Didnt i say there was a PMK moviei/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[Hakeem_21]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
Actually download it now... it has cut scenes for the upcoming PMK Movie... and it also finishes up some things that where left hanging for exaple Suzumu


Dont you mean Zuzu?

[itachi_]

So this Anime-keep version is a trailer of the movie?

[Vagabond]

The last half of it is.

Edit: Sry let me clarify. It's not 24. Thats what i thought it was before i downloaded it. Like Budweineken said it's basically a special that takes place after the events of episode 24. It just clears up some questions. Then the last half of it is a preview of the movie.

[itachi_]

So it's episode 24 with a preview of the movie?

EDIT: That damn special is a fucking april joke, I wont believe a shit what's says today, it's all BS I don't like April 1st

[ptz]

actually yamanami was only caught by okita on the orders of hijikata...actually these two didnt really like each other so hijikata had yamanami killed...nagakura shinpachi lived to his 70's he became a museum guard and wrote a book about shinsengumi...okita died 3-4 years after ikeda ya of tuberculosis...hijikata died fighting imperialists.I dont think ichimura brothers actually existed.

[itachi_]

You basically said what we've been discussing all the time, pointless post :/

[Hakeem_21]

Was the special PMK episode after 24 a 1: april joke??

[itachi_]

There was no special episode... it was a april joke :/

[ptz]

some1 here said that okita killed yamanami...actually he just caught him...and nobody said the stuff about nagakura shinpachi...sorry for giving some more info looks like nobody is really interested.

[itachi_]

Well if you really want fact and no freakin' BS, then I'll say as OshadowO

Go to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinsengumi) and search everything you want to, and when you read about shinsengumi like in this case, you can click on the names, to know more about that, if you read all of it, you'll know everything about why yamanami died.