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MisterBigs
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:25 AM
I am sick and tired of reading people's post that imply that Kakashi equal or better then Kabuto. Now that we see the power of Kabuto, he was able to use one genjutsu to put the enter stadium to sleep, is it possible that anyone is still wandering whether Kabuto is stronger then Kakashi? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif

Black Ice
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:29 AM
Well, just cause he can do ONE move that can put the whole stadium to sleep doesn't show jack shit. Infact, we haven't seen what Kakashi is fully capable of either. To take sides in their rivalry is very opionated, unless they were to duke it out with one another then theres no way one of us can just say 'oh, kakashi is teh rulerz' or 'kabuto ownz j00'.

This is Black Ice, and that was my two cents. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

rEkKaShInObI
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:30 AM
There are people younger, and stronger. So who cares.

Mut
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:31 AM
you're basing your judgement on one jutsu kabuto did? wow, don't ever post again.

MisterBigs
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:36 AM
Well Kakashi himself said that Kabuto was stronger then him. And, that he needed to train hard if this is the kind of people that Orochimaru has with him. Kabuto rocks and the fact that he can go unnoticed up until now show it as well.

Vagabond
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:37 AM
So far all we know in the anime is that Oro said Kabuto could take on Kakashi. Just because he can use a powerful genjutsu doesn't mean he is way stronger than Kakashi. Kakashi, Gai, and even Sakura were able to break out of it.
Also he didn't put the entire stadium to sleep, only the section Naruto was in.

mage
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:42 AM
we havent even seen many genjutsu, so we cant really judge the difference between powerful and weak genjutsu attacks. it could have been incredibly easy for kabuto to do that since everyone is concentrated into one spot, you never know.

MisterBigs
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:43 AM
When Kabuto goes to kill Sasuke after his fight in the preliminaries, Kakashi says that Kabuto is stronger. The only reason that Kabuto didn’t kill Sasuke is because even though he is working for Orochimaru he is still a good guy and also did not truly want to go against Orochimaru.

Jman
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:44 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD &#064; Jan 27 2004, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Dude shut up so far all we know in the anime is that Oro said Kabuto could take on Kakashi. Just because he can use a powerful genjutsu doesn&#39;t mean he is way stronger than Kakashi. Kakashi, Gai, and even Sakura were able to break out of it.
Also he didn&#39;t put the entire stadium to sleep, only the section Naruto was in. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
true. i agree.

and lol even Sakura could dispel that genjutsu.

MisterBigs
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:48 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD &#064; Jan 27 2004, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Dude shut up so far all we know in the anime is that Oro said Kabuto could take on Kakashi. Just because he can use a powerful genjutsu doesn&#39;t mean he is way stronger than Kakashi. Kakashi, Gai, and even Sakura were able to break out of it.
Also he didn&#39;t put the entire stadium to sleep, only the section Naruto was in. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Most of the junins are very good ninjas Kakashi and Gui are great ninjas and Sakura can see through genjutsus (this was shown in the anime after Kakashi entered team 7 to the exams, this is probably the only good thing about Sakura).

Destiny
Tue, 01-27-2004, 10:58 AM
lol if you&#39;re gonna judge them based on their genjutsu skills, then Kakashi is stronger.
Sakura saw through Kabuto&#39;s genjutsu at the stadium, but she got toally owned when Kakashi used his genjutsu during the genin exam.
Sure she may hav gotten a little (little little) stronger since then, but if Kabuto is oh so powerful like u say, she shouldve fell for it.

joker-kun
Tue, 01-27-2004, 11:01 AM
big shit, how does this prove anything http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif


and Kakashi can do a move that can pierce anything http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

-ANBU-Sasuke-
Tue, 01-27-2004, 11:04 AM
Hmmmmmmmmm, Well if your tired of reading, dont go to read the topic. Dhur&#33;

jing
Tue, 01-27-2004, 11:40 AM
if kabuto is better than kakashi, then why wasn&#39;t kakashi put to sleep? common sense......

Suzuki Fanboy
Tue, 01-27-2004, 11:44 AM
I have a feeling they will have a direct fight in the coming episodes, so we&#39;ll find out then. I personally can&#39;t wait for that fight, and the Genma fight http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

But I think that Kakashi will take him...because...he&#39;s fucking Kakashi. He&#39;s so hyper-badass that he has to be stronger. It&#39;s the way anime works.

Sigure
Tue, 01-27-2004, 12:40 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MisterBigs @ Jan 27 2004, 10:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I am sick and tired of reading people&#39;s post that imply that Kakashi equal or better then Kabuto. Now that we see the power of Kabuto, he was able to use one genjutsu to put the enter stadium to sleep, is it possible that anyone is still wandering whether Kabuto is stronger then Kakashi? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Kabuto&#39;s Feathery Sleep w/e it is called only worked MOST of them because not all of the people are ninjas.

itsgalf
Wed, 01-28-2004, 04:14 AM
I don&#39;t know what subbing you were watching, but I don&#39;t remember any direct quoting of anyone saying that Kabuto was stronger than Kakashi.

What I remember is Orichimaru saying &quot;You&#39;re only as strong as Kakashi&quot; and then later Kakashi saying something loosely around the lines of &quot;Kabuto is stronger than I thought. I will have to train hard if Orichimaru has people like him under his command&quot;

NomoZ
Wed, 01-28-2004, 07:41 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Black Ice @ Jan 27 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> To take sides in their rivalry is very opionated, unless they were to duke it out with one another </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I totally agree.

r3n
Wed, 01-28-2004, 07:43 AM
they use different styles of attack, kabuto uses medical related stuff (cos hes a doctors son i presume) like the healing thing, and the opposite on kiba, he can affect the human body without using force.

kakashi however uses physical attacks such as chidori, and he is very fast, and can copy whatever kabuto pulls on him. so in my opinion i think kakashi would win if kabuto didnt manage to outsmart him.

HyuugaZaba
Wed, 01-28-2004, 08:00 AM
Kabuto stronger than kakashi? pffff what&#39;s this? a joke? Kabuto is a freak who idolize orochimaru-sama (like me, afterall) but he is no match for kakashi. only take a look when kabuto tries to kill sasuke, what kabuto do then? run awaaaaaay so fast from kakashi. the fact than he can uses genjutsu is not decisive.

Legendary Nin
Wed, 01-28-2004, 08:06 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HyuugaZaba @ Jan 28 2004, 08:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Kabuto stronger than kakashi? pffff what&#39;s this? a joke? Kabuto is a freak who idolize orochimaru-sama (like me, afterall) but he is no match for kakashi. only take a look when kabuto tries to kill sasuke, what kabuto do then? run awaaaaaay so fast from kakashi. the fact than he can uses genjutsu is not decisive. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
umm...yeah...that&#39;s it..


This thread runs too many risks,its asking for spoilers.

Evil Eyes
Wed, 01-28-2004, 08:09 AM
Well Kabuto is indeed very VERY strong. I wouldn&#39;t say way stronger than Kakashi. Maybe at the same level.


Spoilers:
<span style='color:#D6DBE0'>As a manga reader I know that Kabuto is extremely strong. He was able to survive rasengan and he even managed to beat Tsunade-sama the third member of the legendary leafs. Well we know that he used her blood phobia against her and made her freeze because of the fear of blood then hit her with a cheap punch, otherwise he would&#39;ve been toasted and eaten alive by her, but that fact that she aknowledged his strength shows that he&#39;s so damn strong.. much stronger than people credit him.</span>

Jiraiy4
Wed, 01-28-2004, 08:16 AM
they are on the same level...though Kabuto shows us more accomplishments, but he still cant beat Kakashi. Kakashi won&#39;t beat Kabuto easily,it&#39;ll probably like kakashi vs zabuza (a real close fight)...but kakashi will be the victor in the end.

Nine Tailed Demon
Wed, 01-28-2004, 08:24 AM
They are equal.

Vagabond
Wed, 01-28-2004, 08:28 AM
hm i don&#39;t think kakashi vs. zabuza was a close fight.
To me it seemed like kakashi was in control the whole time, exept for the the water prison part.

Sharigan_User
Wed, 01-28-2004, 08:58 AM
Well you can&#39;t just judge that Kabuto is stronger than Kakashi on just ONE move. Maybe Kakashi has some other moves that they haven&#39;t shown him use yet. Besides kakashi has his Sharigan, even though that&#39;s not much, he is very powerful, you just don&#39;t know it yet.

Unidentified
Wed, 01-28-2004, 10:00 AM
Kabuto is stronger than Kakashi in my opinion. I don&#39;t think there&#39;s a way that Kakashi is stronger than him maybe as strong. Even when Orochimaru was saying they were equal power(he should know both their power but Kabuto has that red eyes thing that may be extremely powerful) he seemed like it was a understatement and if Kakashi was a lot stronger then why didn&#39;t he just kill him in the hospital.

Mut
Wed, 01-28-2004, 10:42 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Unidentified @ Jan 28 2004, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ...but Kabuto has that red eyes thing that may be extremely powerful)... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
this is possibly one of the most retarded things ever. what you said is equivalent to kurenai has some sexy looking eyes which could mean that they may be ultra powerful.

Hero-Sennin
Wed, 01-28-2004, 10:55 AM
Hero-Sennin plus joint again. I dont condone the use of drugs. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif So. I agree with whoever the clever person was who basically said we cant judge what we havent seen. the genjutsu theory is pants because kakashi proved leet in controlling Zabuza so if his sharingan can do that, hes probably got better genjutsu skills. If that guy up there was right then kabuto could have some evil side, I mean , why was he the last survivor on the when all his clan/family whatever got killed? If Kakashi can get the Chidori off he wins, if kabuto uses his thing to control dead people (michael Jackson (not Oorochimaru Rak) could do that too&#33; you seen thriller?) then he&#39;ll have one hell of an advantage. Kabuto has proved to be good on planned missions i.e. exam spying, trying to kill sasuke, maybe cos he&#39;s had time to plan, whereas in full on war he might be shite. As someone mentioned, kakashi will no doubt fight Kabuto and kakashi (as someone else mentioned) will no doubt win, cos he&#39;s &quot;fucking kakashi&quot; and &quot;thats the way the anime works&quot;. IMO, it&#39;ll be a close fight cos every fight is close in naruto (w/exception of Chouji vs Dosu). Besides. like Sasuke vs Gaara, it&#39;l probably get interrupted&#33; There is a war, and we&#39;re yet to see (my guesses) evil kabuto, some big dragon&#39;y thing with three heads (at end clip of 66-67) and Gaara monster thingy, so Shh, and enjoy it.

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Momochi Zabuza
Wed, 01-28-2004, 10:55 AM
being a manga reader it seems to me that kakashi hardly ever fights with the intent to kill, thus this makes him weaker than kabuto who couldnt care less about killing, however in the next few episodes you will see how hardcore kakashi can truly be...

Krbadass
Thu, 01-29-2004, 01:42 PM
Repeat thread. Please use search.