View Full Version : Eps 66-67
DB_Hunter
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:25 AM
It's been 24 hours.
What were your thoughts on the episode?
Aegis Runestone
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:28 AM
I haven't finished d/ling it yet. T_T Darn it, why did they HAVE to make three torrents for the SAME two episodes....
Kn1ves
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:33 AM
I saw 3 things that made me crackup/wonder etc
1) When Kabuto made Kiba faint... why did his dog faint also??
2) Sasuke runs gay!
3) The whole "Hokage" moment cracked me up
They turned their heads all super slow! hahahaha
I think I have more .. but i just forgot
-rewatches it
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:34 AM
I loved it http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif
For me it was the best EP so far.. why?
couse the .. just wow http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Well the end of the EP was awesome! i mean.. what are they about to summon?
and did you see Hokage and Kazkage "come here" *Bzooooff!* and both went away like missiles. Then the atack starts now... i want to see more!!
And Sasuke has become strong.. and he is cooler then before. Gaara seems to be kinda mad http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
well i loved this EP.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
(suck that we must wait 2 weeks tho)
The Kyubi Naruto
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:37 AM
I was quite good, but I didn't have thje same ich as I had with Lee vs. Gaara or Naruto vs. Neji. Just didn't suit for me. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif
I was hoping for a mindblowing experience and I ended up with a good experience. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
Maybe I shouldn't have read the manga. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif
Of course it also could be tat my sister and her two little boys were there to interrupt my experience. I'll have to look it again, since I don't remember much of it. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif
I think that Kakashi and Gai were responsible for the most joyful experience, but the joke was old, but I guess Gai never gets old. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif
The chidori was neat, but they all were saying that it's an awesome technicue. But Seeing it I was kinda dissapointed. I took so long and didn't do anything effective.
Kakashi doing chidori... Now THAT was a display! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif
And the most exciting thing there was the !!Kazekage!! watching the battle and´after that Hokage with quite "intensity."
I also think that it's quite impressive of Gaara to withstand the power of chidori.
Of course the sandprotection must have helped him, but still it packed quite a puch. Even Haku died http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif in an instant.
And I also think that when Gaara realized that the warm thing was his own blood was somehow very thrilling. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif
All in all I think that they have dissapointed me. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:44 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> But Seeing it I was kinda dissapointed. I took so long and didn't do anything effective.
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Not effective?!... wha? wa--
Hey hey... that chidori did pierce through that sand ball
(and that sandball is hard as hell)
And then also the Armor of sand!
It even made Gaara bleed for the very first time.. so dont say it wasnt effective http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif
It was Ultra.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Kakashi doing chidori... Now THAT was a display! </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
errm.. well he killed Haku. But Haku didnt got an ultra hard sand ball then also ultra hard armor on him http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
oh well.. everybody got different opinion.
The Kyubi Naruto
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:48 AM
Yes I know that the sandball is hard as hell. After all all of Sasuke's other puches were deflected and his knuckles even started bleeding. So I know.
The Chidori wasn't like dramatic. Atleast to me.
I did mention that it was QUITE IMPRESSIVE from Gaara to withstand the power of chidori.
It's a cool techicue when done by Kakashi. Not Sasuke.
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:55 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>It's a cool techicue when done by Kakashi. Not Sasuke. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i think he was good for a first-timer http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif
But yeah kakashi has used it many times so he knows how to do it like a pro.
But the first time when kakashi did it wasnt as flashy like sasuke.
joker-kun
Sat, 01-17-2004, 03:55 AM
It was a good ep, I cant wait till next week http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
r3n
Sat, 01-17-2004, 04:02 AM
loved it the first time i watched, and was even betr the 2nd time i watched it! fight was SUGOI!!, two kages were SUGOI!!, gaara was SUGOI!!, kakashi and gai was jst hilarious as per usual!!
and yes, why DID the dog faint as well?
tune in next week on "mysteries of naruto"!
DB_Hunter
Sat, 01-17-2004, 04:09 AM
I didn't understand this... the monster inside the shell who's rm came out when Sasuke pulled his arm back out of the shell... why didnt we see him when we saw Gaara find out he was bleeding? And that eye above the sand ball dissapeared mysteriously too.
One thing that was kinda getting old was even Gai saying, 'So this is the power of the Uchiha'... I mean come on surely he has seen other Uchiha in his lifetime...... as for their ability he has fought Kakashi as well! Well maybe Kakashi didn't have the sharingan then.
As for the summoning circle, I think they were summoning snakes, as can be sene in the preview for the next ep when many snakes jump over the stadium wall.
As for Hokage and Kazekage shooting off like bullets, that smoke and sound was due to that grenade thing that sand nin had just activated in his hand.
Also, it seems Gaara has about the same skill as Naruto without Kyuubi, since he can only do desert graveyard and desert coffin, and the rest is done by the demon such as the sand Bunshin and shield. OK so he has the armour by himself but he aint much different than Naruto without Kyuubi.
It was pretty neat seeing those ANBU jump into action... though what they were jumping for left me wondering http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif ......
I got a feeling Baki is gonna get killed. Also, that Shino is gonna take out Kankuro and Temari by himself, since he now seems to be aware of their plan. In the next few eps I think we are gonna see (obviously) Hokage and Kazekage fight but I think Kazekage is going to be a less of a match for Hokage than most of us thought before, since in the next ep Hokage seems pretty relaxed while Kazekage is holding a Kunai to his throat.
It seems Genma is going to fight Baki for now, with the ANBU squads going after the two Kazekage guards.... that leaves Kakashi and Gai free... Kakashi might go after Kabuto so....... what is Gai going to do...?
itachi_
Sat, 01-17-2004, 04:13 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (joker-kun @ Jan 17 2004, 02:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It was a good ep, I cant wait till next week http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Joker-Kun, you mean two weeks?
Nara Shikamaru
Sat, 01-17-2004, 04:20 AM
Gaara couldn't change into the "monster" i guess because he was wounded? that's what temari said i think. oh and the only people that weren't effected by the genjutsu are the jounins and SAKURA? i guess she's smarter than i thought http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
itachi_
Sat, 01-17-2004, 04:22 AM
Sasuke interrupted Gaara's evolving, He couldn't continue evolve due the damage of the chidori that sasuke gave him.
The Kyubi Naruto
Sat, 01-17-2004, 04:36 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>oh and the only people that weren't effected by the genjutsu are the jounins and SAKURA? i guess she's smarter than i thought* </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yes that is the case. She just noticed that there was a genjutsu going on and she just happened to know how to make dispell (KAI wasn't it?).
Nothing extraordinary in that.
And she isn't of course smarter than you Nara. (obviously)
You just didn't happen to notice or know how to react or didn't know dispell.
Sakura is such a HOT bookworm. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif
Man! Had to edit this post two times. Damn typos. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif
Seikishidan
Sat, 01-17-2004, 04:37 AM
Eh, the ep took longer than the manga http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif ...prolonging what was gonna happen with all those flashbacks and like repetition of things...i thought i saw Lee describing Sasuke's change the same way about 3 times! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif Now we have to wait two weeks for the next ep http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif
Sasuke was cooler than usual, more determined instead of hesitant while facing Orochimaru + he seems to be more cockier and I hate to see Naruto be jealous of him http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif But Naruto may be underestimating himself after all he does have super powers http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif
I wonder who is faster Naruto or Sasuke after Naruto got the chakra boost from Kyuubi http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_boff.gif
But the ep showed just as much action as one ep could take up so http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_Dr_Evil.gif
"Sasuke interrupted Gaara's evolving, He couldn't continue evolve due the damage of the chidori that sasuke gave him."
-Go!! Pokemon Gaara! Desert Coffin attack! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_eat_arrow.gif
About the snakes comment...since snakes were summoned in the previews Orochimaru must be closer to tourneys than anyone expects...he could be one of those bidders disguised! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif
The Kyubi Naruto
Sat, 01-17-2004, 04:42 AM
Thanks for reminding me! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
Now I feel all miserable http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif
I'm thinking about suicide again.
Oh no, can't do it. Then I'd totally miss the next ep.
Damn I hate my logic. Well, back to torture. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif
DB_Hunter
Sat, 01-17-2004, 05:17 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Seikishidan @ Jan 17 2004, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> About the snakes comment...since snakes were summoned in the previews Orochimaru must be closer to tourneys than anyone expects...he could be one of those bidders disguised! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Not necessarily, since there are sound nins present Orochimaru could have trained them in how to summon snakes.
SeifeR
Sat, 01-17-2004, 05:39 AM
that was such an awesome episode my favorite so far
sasuke was goin nuts it was awesome to see, and the hokage thing was crazy
i hate kazekage tho
cant wait for next episode
the chidori owns that looked so cool
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 05:41 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>oh and the only people that weren't effected by the genjutsu are the jounins and SAKURA? i guess she's smarter than i thought </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
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Yes that is the case. She just noticed that there was a genjutsu going on and she just happened to know how to make dispell (KAI wasn't it?).
Nothing extraordinary in that.
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Well she is smart <u>or</u> all other ppl are dumb. I mean seems like nobody did notice that it was a genjutsu. So lets pretend you was in the naruto world (and didnt knew anything about this) .. suddenly you feel tired and you are not sure if you see feathers falling down. Would you think "Oh this is a genjutsu i gotta do dispell"
I would think "uhh...whats happening? zzzz" http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
i would say sakura is smarter then normal ppl.
Midou Ban
Sat, 01-17-2004, 05:45 AM
Thats could of been a half hour no well maybe not.
But man go sasuke I like hand to hand.
Way to go Pscyo Gaara.
Shikamarau should of had a bigger part.
Sakura is useful who knew.
The stories finnaly going some where.
It wwould be nice if they make a Samurai Jack like episode with nothing but fighting for like 20 minutes and 2 seconded of talking
DB_Hunter
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:06 AM
I was just thinking. that maybe all the sound nins are second rate nins anyway.... since sound is newly created it wouldn't have had time to train up shinobi to Jounin level... and somehow I don't think all the Jounin missing nin's of the other villages would wind up in the sound village...... so who thinks they are gonna get slaughtered?
Aegis Runestone
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:06 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DB_Hunter @ Jan 17 2004, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I got a feeling Baki is gonna get killed. Also, that Shino is gonna take out Kankuro and Temari by himself, since he now seems to be aware of their plan. In the next few eps I think we are gonna see (obviously) Hokage and Kazekage fight but I think Kazekage is going to be a less of a match for Hokage than most of us thought before, since in the next ep Hokage seems pretty relaxed while Kazekage is holding a Kunai to his throat.
It seems Genma is going to fight Baki for now, with the ANBU squads going after the two Kazekage guards.... that leaves Kakashi and Gai free... Kakashi might go after Kabuto so....... what is Gai going to do...? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Remind me again who Baki, Genma and Kabuto are..? And what's the Frog Boss's name?
Anyway, That was a SWEET episode set... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif
TWO weeks!? Why must we wait two weeks!? I'm going to pull a Gaara on someone! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif J/K So does anyone else think that Naruto might summon the Frog boss? Maybe not, but it would make a nice counter to that summoning techinque.
What REALLY disturbed me about that episode, was the fact that Gaara was talking to mother about killing Sasuke... and his mother isn't anywhere to be found.... either that or she is the demon. Gaara is just creepy... creepy.
DB_Hunter
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:10 AM
Baki = Jounin in-charge of the sand genin team
Genma = The examiner currently overseeing this round of the Chunnin exam
Kabuto = Orochimaru's right hand man, the adopted son of Konoha's chief medic. He fought Kakashi (well if you can call that fighting) at the hospital when Sasuke was lying in bed unconcious. If you still don't remember you sure your watching Naruto http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif ?
Aegis Runestone
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:17 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DB_Hunter @ Jan 17 2004, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Baki = Jounin in-charge of the sand genin team
Genma = The examiner currently overseeing this round of the Chunnin exam
Kabuto = Orochimaru's right hand man, the adopted son of Konoha's chief medic. He fought Kakashi (well if you can call that fighting) at the hospital when Sasuke was lying in bed unconcious. If you still don't remember you sure your watching Naruto http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif ? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
AHHHH... Now I remember... thanx. Though I don't think I caught Baki or Genma's name, but I do remember Kabuto...
What was the Frog Boss's name BTW?
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:22 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aegis Runestone @ Jan 17 2004, 05:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DB_Hunter @ Jan 17 2004, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Baki = Jounin in-charge of the sand genin team
Genma = The examiner currently overseeing this round of the Chunnin exam
Kabuto = Orochimaru's right hand man, the adopted son of Konoha's chief medic. He fought Kakashi (well if you can call that fighting) at the hospital when Sasuke was lying in bed unconcious. If you still don't remember you sure your watching Naruto http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif ? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
AHHHH... Now I remember... thanx. Though I don't think I caught Baki or Genma's name, but I do remember Kabuto...
What was the Frog Boss's name BTW? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Gamabunta
ComeComeParadise
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:28 AM
Isn't Genma only a Chuunin? I don't think he'd be much of a match for Baki...remember, Baki made short work of Hayate, and Genma and Hayate seem to be much on the same level as far as I can infer. This episode was indeed painfully slow, especially for those of us who read the manga...seems like they added too much filler, but I guess they wanted to set up the ep so that the "plan" came into action at the very end. The fight was definitely not wall-to-wall action, but it was fun to see Gaara'a true potential begin to be unveiled. That eye! haha But that being said, two weeks is waaaaaaay too long to see the next episode in action. I'm SO glad that something is actually happening other than Chuunin exam battles...
*edit* I was just looking at that picture of Kakashi asleep in his bed with his three man team from when he was a kid above him. Is that Genma on the left with the straw hanging out of his mouth? If so, then I guess Genma is a jounin....
photonic
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:41 AM
I have to say I was disappointed with this episode. There was too much explanation of the chidori and not enough action. I also wondered why Akamaru fainted when Kabuto hit Kiba. I was hoping that this would be more of a one on one match and not just a precursor to the war, but oh well. On a positive note, I'm very excited about the upcoming war.
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:54 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>i also wondered why Akamaru fainted when Kabuto hit Kiba</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
aghh im tired of that question. It seems simple.. its like electricity .. if that would been a lightning both would get fried. Its the same thing.. that greenish thing must have been some kind of shock that spread to akamaru.. it isnt so hard to figure it out.
Everon
Sat, 01-17-2004, 06:57 AM
I liked those part were sakura said "Sasuke is awesome" and Lee drops his head and starts to mope.
meskin
Sat, 01-17-2004, 07:02 AM
the only thing that pisses me off is that lee takes the shaft. sasuke shouldnt have gotten that fast in one months time. really discredits lee and all of his hard work, I honostly think that the author made a sub-character **rock lee** too bad ass so he had to make up for his error........=D.
boomorman
Sat, 01-17-2004, 07:25 AM
They said Sakuras knowledge on genjutsu is the highest so yeah.. If anyone could disspell it, its gonna be her. Also with how lazy Shik is maybe he just thought "hmm, I was in the mood for a nap either way might aswell just let the jutsu get me"
I wish Gaara had finished his little evolution. Naruto got to do his while fighting Neji. Gaara should have been able to do his too.
As for Akamaru fainting... its like a shockgun or something it spreads and akamaru was ontop of kiba.
I Hope we get to see Gai or some of the other jounins in action for a change.
True_strengh
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:08 AM
i want them to make a vidoe containing Sasuke from 66-67 and other episodes ,.. and some fast music kinda rock or something like that...anyway it would be great
Nautek
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:16 AM
ComeComeParadise, Gemma/Genma is a Jounin and is not to be underrated.
Seikishidan
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:23 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (boomorman @ Jan 17 2004, 07:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I wish Gaara had finished his little evolution. Naruto got to do his while fighting Neji. Gaara should have been able to do his too. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I want Naruto to be the center of attention http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif No Fair! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif
<u>*********************SPOILER********************** *****</u>
<span style='color:#D6DBE0'> Oh you just wait, Gaara will get his evolution down in just a few episodes, and guess who gets to fight him...</span>
*********************END SPOILER**********************************
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:27 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (meskin @ Jan 17 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> the only thing that pisses me off is that lee takes the shaft. sasuke shouldnt have gotten that fast in one months time. really discredits lee and all of his hard work, I honostly think that the author made a sub-character **rock lee** too bad ass so he had to make up for his error........=D. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Sasuke is Uchiha after all...
and got Kakashi as a trainer.. so they are both genious http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:28 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Seikishidan @ Jan 17 2004, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (boomorman @ Jan 17 2004, 07:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I wish Gaara had finished his little evolution.* Naruto got to do his while fighting Neji. Gaara should have been able to do his too. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I want Naruto to be the center of attention http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif No Fair! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif
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hmm why?.. naruto got his part.. sasuke is also a main character http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
Kagari
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:37 AM
DUDE! edit your post ASAP! dont quote spoilers, now we can all see what it is he wrote.
Mods? VITE VITE!
Uzumaki Kakashi
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:46 AM
yeah dumbass. dont qoute spoilers it shows up (the point of spoiler font is for people to be able to choose if they want to be spoiled)
this episode was really good but what pissed me off was sasuke's weird kind of run where he looked way too upright. also shikamaru was drawn as kind of chubby. (i thouhgt maybe the artists wanted to show he was bruised and puffy)
the reason we have to wait two weeks is b/c there will be a special prince of tennis episode that i guess will take naruto's time as well.
cant wait till we get to see the next episodes.
itsgalf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:51 AM
The best effect in that episode is where it shows Sasuke punching Gaara and Lee's ghost mirroring the punch.
...The actually fighting started about 11:00 into the episode...that was kind of crap. Anyways, the episode was pretty good, but I still like Ep. 48 better
Grey_wolf
Sat, 01-17-2004, 08:58 AM
Oyy! didnt knew that http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>yeah dumbass</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif .. *loading Chidori*
lordks
Sat, 01-17-2004, 09:25 AM
It was fun!! But the fight was not all that, there was a lot of other crap going on..
Lee's fight was better But Im happly the war is on!!! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif
O man Cant wait to see it!!
ssjtrunks585
Sat, 01-17-2004, 09:28 AM
SASUKE IS THE SH*T! When he used Chidori, I almost did wet my pants (lol @ Kakashi). This was the best episode to date, and to Sasuke fans, definitely stacks up to (and destroys) episode 30 where Sasuke fought Orochimaru, using Dragon Fire. When I was watching what was going to happen next episode, and found out we have to wait 2 weeks, I punched a small hole in the wall adjacent to my computer desk! No joke, there is now a hole in my wall! It had better be a good one, us having to wait 2 weeks and all! I don't read ahead in the mangas, but I have a funny feeling that Naruto is going to be summoning Gamabunta soon!
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>the reason we have to wait two weeks is b/c there will be a special prince of tennis episode that i guess will take naruto's time as well.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
<u>SCREW PRINCE OF TENNIS!</u>
Karasu
Sat, 01-17-2004, 09:40 AM
Looved the ep actually.. Man finaly we got to see alittle what the hell gaara is, he's twisted that boy hehehe.. And we got to see that Gaara actually has more than the 2 jutsus seen so far.. well 3 including the eye too..
DB_Hunter I very much doubt that Shukaku is controlling alot more than just the sand shiled. Im pretty sure Gaara managed the Suna bunshin and all the otherstuff aswell except the shiled..
And Gaara seemed to take it alittle more easy this time when Sasuke started to use fast Lee taijutsu.. the sand didnt try to block and catch the opponent far away from Gaara's body so it saved Gaaras fall alot of times when he got punched/kicked back.. Didnt happen in Lee fight except with the ura renge..
I do hope the other Gaara comes out for real, loved the shit in pants look on Sasuke when the evil eye looked at him http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
Really liked that they got the better team to animate this episode, cause Sasuke looked alot better in this one.. Didnt look at all that cocky and im all that this time.. He managed pretty good.
The Chidori was a nice surprise aswell as Gaara beeing able to take the hit and Sasuke also released one more chakara burst when his hand got stuck too..
And the start of a war http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif mmmm Bet we gonna see a really badass fight kage vs kage hehe.. And We might even get to see Gai rock n roll and maby even some Kabuto action. Maby even Iruka joins the asskicking.
NomoZ
Sat, 01-17-2004, 10:11 AM
All I can say is http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif
Assassin
Sat, 01-17-2004, 10:19 AM
that ep was pretty good...not GREAT, but still good. i think alot of ppl (including myself) were expecting the rock lee type fight, expecially after all the training and waiting, and since it all of a sudden got interupted, some ppl didnt find it as good as it could've been......its like ur nearing orgasm and *BAM* u have to wait to week to finish it (ok, bad example http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif)
anyway, the chidori was really awsome, althogh they needed music. if u pay attention, they dont have that "action" music they play during the really cool scenes (like in the lee/gaara fight, or when kakashi did his chidori), but the actual animation of the move was great. they way sasuke pulls his arm back, and it tears away at the wall, and then leaves a mark in the floor as he runs........ http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
but what was also great was when gai explains how the move earned the name "lightning edge" http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif ....holy shit, a freaking lightning bolt??!?!?!? who ever thought kakashi was all bark and no bite was DEAD wrong http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif
as for the mommy thing, i think mayb......well when we first learn about gaara's past (in the hospital i htink) he says that he killed his mother when he was born (as in, she died giving birth, i think) and that was partly due to the demon that was implanted in him......so mayb he think his mother is part of him/the demon, and the demon is his mother. we are talking about the mind of a psychopath after all.....u never know what they're like.
The next couple of eps are gonna b SOO awsome.....i almost wish i could somehow stop watching for like 2 months, and see the whole war at once http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif ......the summon that the sand nins did....it looked to me like the 3 heads were attached to one body....like some hydra type creature. it would make more sense since snakes are like oro's department......but im probably wrong. either way, i'd bet naruto is gonna summon gamabunta to go up against the summon.
kakshi's gonna fight kabuto most likely, temari and kankaro (if they dont have some predefined part to play) will probably face off aganist shino and shika. sasuke will obviously keep fighting gaara (btw how come gaara and sasuke didn't faint as well? or did they?). that just leaves neji....i really hope we see him do something. i'd like to c what he can do with his new outlook on life/destiny.
theres still the matter of gai.....he'll probably go along with the anbu squads or face one of kazekage's guards. it seems the only ppl awake now are ALL jounin elites (except sakura) so the next few eps are gonna b some crazy ass battles. the sound nins are elite chuunins at best, so they'll b slaughtered, but the sand nins will b tough apponents.
i wonder when jiraya and oro will show up. hopefully they'll go at it as well, to give us another awsome fight (though i doubt we'd b that lucky)
IamSpazzy
Sat, 01-17-2004, 10:30 AM
How can Gai compete with Kakashi...I think Kakashi is pretty freaking fast in order to pull off Chidori, and unlike Gai..he's got a ton of other jitsu's he can use.
Karasu
Sat, 01-17-2004, 10:38 AM
Yeah I get the feeling Gaara atleast thinks his mother is somewhat part of shukaku.. Casue it has to be his mind and shukaku batteling inside his mind about blood http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif Shukaku seems to really want some nice blood. And hell yeah he's a psycho allright http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif twistedly disturbed x100..
I do wonder what impact Shukaku has on Gaara. How much actually is Gaara and what actually is the other monstery thing.. And it seems the more gaara hates and the more pissed he gets the more shit he reveals, MAN I want to see that thing!
And it also seems the better opponents Gaara faces the more things he does.. Casue Temari wondered if Sasuke actually pressured Gaara that much to start getting serious. I think Gaara loves the rush aswell about fighting stronger and stronger opponents.. Hope Sasuke and Gaara keeps on fighting in the war or that someone even stronger comes arround to let Gaara go all out. That will probably more accurate. Casue I dont think Sasuke stands a chance in hell if Gaara gets really serious/pissed/psycho or whatever.
Hmm why wouldnt Gai be able to compete with Kakashi?.. Do we know that Gai is only Taijutsu like Lee is?.. I dont think Gai is someone to underestimate.. A good fighter learns how to adopt to different fighting styles. And if it's true that Kakashi and Gai has actually fought eachother a 100 times http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif then Im pretty sure they know eachother pretty well.. And If Lee is that fast imagine what Gai must be. Ohh and Gai must be able to use ninjutsu cause he summoned I think that funkey turtle http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif I dont think Lee can ever do that..
ZakuHan
Sat, 01-17-2004, 12:01 PM
Was a good ep, but.. Maybe I just had my expectations too high. Not as much action as I thought there should have been and a lil too much (in some cases repetetive) crowd reaction.
Gaara is talking to his mother.. cause she was sacrificed upon his birth to the sand spirit that is posessed in him. Basically SHE is the sand spirit. And she's trying to take over Gaara to do his dirty work for him if he doesn't do it well enough himself. That's how I see it anyway. I think the whole psychopath role was really well done.
Oh yeah and there was music during the Chidori, just wasn't the usual music. A lil hard to hear over Chidori's sounds, but it's there.
~Chris
kimunist
Sat, 01-17-2004, 12:13 PM
actually, i think he says "mother"
because he killed his own mother, so he has never had a mother...so he considers his spirit inside of him as a "mother"
make sense?
hes deprived of love and care, and since that spirit grants him power, he has a relationship with it which in he sees as a "mother-child"...
but gai isnt all taijutsu, he just told rock lee that he was a drop-out like him.
gai isnt able to be as smart as kakashi, but i think hes strong as his attacks, he must have a buttload of combos or something in his sleaves.
Junichiro
Sat, 01-17-2004, 12:32 PM
great ep, but why must the next one come out in two weeks? KILL YOU TV TOKYO!!!. . . or whoever shows it.
Anime_KickBoxer
Sun, 01-18-2004, 02:31 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>2) Sasuke runs gay!
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Um.. yeah.. he ran like a pansy...and this ep was overhyped... the fighting lasted all of what? 2 minutes? The rest was all flashs and staring at each other. But the fight scenes were done nicely.
DB_Hunter
Sun, 01-18-2004, 02:34 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (boomorman @ Jan 18 2004, 11:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Thats the whole point. Sasuke is a Genius. Without his Sharigan that wouldn't have happened. Lee even states that in the episode. Kakashi having a sharigan too; he was the perfect teacher. All Sasuke had to do was witness it then teach his body to perform at the same speed..... Plus when you think about it Naruto took 2 seconds to put his hands together and draw some Kybui power, and all the sudden he’s faster then Neji. So why can't Sasuke put a solid month of just speed/taijutsu training to work and become almost as fast as lee. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
This is the point... the Sharingan only allows you to SEE what's going on, getting your body used to it is another matter. Lee's Taijitsu puts stress on the body, to which his muscles have matured and grown used to to. Seeing is one thing, executing is another. With Jutsu it's another story, since jutsu are about channelling chakra in the right amount and performing the correct hand seals.
ComeComeParadise
Sun, 01-18-2004, 03:39 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>How can Gai compete with Kakashi...I think Kakashi is pretty freaking fast in order to pull off Chidori, and unlike Gai..he's got a ton of other jitsu's he can use.
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Just because Lee idolizes Gai-sensei and copied his look doesn't mean that they have the same jutsu abilities. I'm sure Gai-sensei can do the fast taijutsu like Lee, but as he can perform nin and genjutsus as well, he is almost certainly a force to be reckoned with. We have seen a lot of what Kakashi can do (which is extremely cool) but very little (if any, we know he can stop Gaara dead in his tracks) of what Gai-sensei can do. Don't underestimate Gai because he is a super-nerd!
Vagabond
Sun, 01-18-2004, 03:44 AM
Hm this is stupid, the mods warn me for saying obito but people here are giving away a ton of spoilers. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
Sasuke-kun!
Sun, 01-18-2004, 04:35 AM
It wasn't as good as I expected it to be... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
Destiny
Sun, 01-18-2004, 05:19 AM
Yeh, not as good as what i was expecting.
Sasuke has gotten better, but only thanks to Lee. If it wasn't for Lee's style, he wouldnt hav even made it past the prelims, let alone take on Gaara. Sad really, seeing as it took Lee a lot of time and dedication to get to where he is now.
It's like he uses Lee to clear the path for him, then he walks it.
RoMuLuu
Sun, 01-18-2004, 05:26 AM
I liked this episode (or better these episodes) guite much, even I think I've seen better. Hmm, some people have also noticed that Sasuke running looks strange. Well, I also noticed it, but he doesn't run the same way all the time. In my opinion his running looked strtange only one time. Someone noticed that when Kiba fainted, his dog Akamaru fainted too. I didn't notice it myself, but that seems to be guite strange. I think in the next episodes there is going to be a lot more action, so maybe those episodes will be fun, if the fighting just will be animated well enough. After all it was a good episode, even I expected more from the fight between Gaara and Sasuke.
Jubei
Sun, 01-18-2004, 06:22 AM
I liked the ep http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif i didn't read the manga but i don't know why when i saw eyes of that guy sitting next to Hokage i thought about Orochimaru!! [something similar in both eyes!!] Just a thought :]
enyway cool eps!!!! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I want more!!!!!! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
Uchiha-Itachi
Sun, 01-18-2004, 06:32 AM
Nah that's not true at all rofl... it doesn't look like Oro's eye's...
r3n
Sun, 01-18-2004, 07:08 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Uchiha-Itachi @ Jan 18 2004, 10:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Nah that's not true at all rofl... it doesn't look like Oro's eye's... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
agreed
Karasu
Sun, 01-18-2004, 07:20 AM
Well if it is Orochimaru or not we will see http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif.. But maby Kazekage has blackbair?.. tho in Gaara's flashback noone seems to have black hair except for Kankuro I think, but I dont know http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
I actually dont care alot about if it is kazekage or Orochimaru or anyone else that is probably going to fight Hokage.. It wont be ayone at chuunin or jounin level thats for sure. So the fight will probably be extreeme.
Guizmo0
Sun, 01-18-2004, 07:30 AM
haha its sad that some of you manga readers ( im one too ) try too ruin it for the anime guys who CAN wait patiently for the anime ... trying to act all like i dont know but isnt that.. looks like.. HEY I DONT READ THE MANGA just guessing just guessing . Makes me sick http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif
ok all overreacted but dont do it it isnt any fun they have to wait too every week just as we do but the problem is they cant spoil it 4 us manga readers
Augury
Sun, 01-18-2004, 07:38 AM
Two of the jounins that they didn't show reacting to Kabuto's genjitsu were Asuma and Kurenai. It seems that they'd only show so many (a certain number of people) dispelling the genjitsu so it's not repetitive. I think we can assume that they dispelled it for themselves too, but does this mean that they're not going to be shown much in the following episodes? Everyone here is talking about Gai and the others mentioned in the earlier posts, but nobody really goes beyond that. Someone mentioned Neji, and a few thought of Iruka, but all of this (other stuff) makes me wonder if it's actually manga people "molding" anime watchers to theorize in the eventual "correct" direction.
This is not to discount people who are good at picking up the foreshadowing hints, of course.
Anyway, about the episode... I was disappointed about halfway through when i realized that Sasuke's chidori wasn't going to seriously damage (or kill!) Gaara. It seems like every time they super-hype up something, they want to you expect it to be completely effective but then it ends up not working. But besides that, the episode was nearly throughly enjoyable http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif Gai's old humor is still funny... The great anticipation of what he's going to do just cracks me up ^^
ssjtrunks585
Sun, 01-18-2004, 07:53 AM
for everyone who is putting Sasuke down for learning Lee's taijutsu in a month, you're all forgetting one very important fact. Sasuke was nearly out of breath after his first couple assaults on Gaara, whereas Lee was perfectly fine up until he used Lotus. So, Sasuke hasn't MASTERED Lee's taijutsu. Lee trained for Mastery, where Sasuke copied for strategy.
itachi_
Sun, 01-18-2004, 08:13 AM
I belive that part when Kiba and Akamaru got fainted dosen't exist in the manga...
Correct me if i'm wrong or whatever..
kyuubi
Sun, 01-18-2004, 08:32 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ssjtrunks585 @ Jan 18 2004, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> for everyone who is putting Sasuke down for learning Lee's taijutsu in a month, you're all forgetting one very important fact. Sasuke was nearly out of breath after his first couple assaults on Gaara, whereas Lee was perfectly fine up until he used Lotus. So, Sasuke hasn't MASTERED Lee's taijutsu. Lee trained for Mastery, where Sasuke copied for strategy. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I completely agree..as a matter of fact, didnt Gai say something along those lines..in his head? No, already forgetting..gotta watch again.... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif
SilentSnake
Sun, 01-18-2004, 09:48 AM
IIRC in manga Kabuto made Kiba and akamaru faint when he was healing hinata, butf unny thing is that I don't remember if Akamaru "smelled" Kabuto or not, so i don't really know why he did that http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif
Assassin
Sun, 01-18-2004, 09:49 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guizmo0 @ Jan 18 2004, 06:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> haha its sad that some of you manga readers ( im one too ) try too ruin it for the anime guys who CAN wait patiently for the anime ... trying to act all like i dont know but isnt that.. looks like.. HEY I DONT READ THE MANGA just guessing just guessing . Makes me sick http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif
ok all overreacted but dont do it it isnt any fun they have to wait too every week just as we do but the problem is they cant spoil it 4 us manga readers </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
dude i totally agree.....i dont even read the manga, but for fucks sake, were not all idiots. its only takes that slight "hint" to make the connection, and then its ruined. speculation is one thing, but dont make it obvious by saying, "im a manga reader, but i *think* this is whats gonna happen"......if u read the manga, either dont tell us about it, or dont speculate. u can't do both, cuz when something that seems pretty obvious is then also "speculated" by a manga reader, it usually ends up as a spoiler.
also itahci_ dont post spoiler unless someone *asks*....and even then, pm them. random spoilers are just stupid, even if they're in spoiler color.
itsgalf
Sun, 01-18-2004, 09:50 AM
hmmm probably everyone's excited about the upcoming war, but when it actually comes, the episode won't live up to our expectations....seems to be a pattern.
Grey_wolf
Sun, 01-18-2004, 11:32 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itsgalf @ Jan 18 2004, 08:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> hmmm probably everyone's excited about the upcoming war, but when it actually comes, the episode won't live up to our expectations....seems to be a pattern. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
of course.. next EP is surely going to be
"Ohh.. thats why that happend! *flashback* .. and thats why this happend! *flashback* And thats why Hayate died! *flashback*"
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif
But maybe not... in the preview it looks full-action http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
DB_Hunter
Sun, 01-18-2004, 11:43 AM
Well in the upcoming war I forgot about the other sub-character Jounins, namely Kurenai and Asuma... wonder what they are gonna do... probably the main fighting with the Sand and Sound nins. And Ebisu has been mentioned in the other thread... if he comes in I don't know why but becuase he has been such a moron up till know I got a feeling he's gonna absolutly own anyone he fights from the attacking sound or sand nins...
And as for the people saying that Naruto is going to summon Gamabunta to fight the snake summons, what about Gaara's demon? He doesn't seem to be so small himself after all, his arm was pretty big. Also, it may be that Naruto summons a huge frog but not GamaBunta... and GB is left for some uber battle at the end.
Guest
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:11 PM
200 guys in a forest AND THE ANBU MISS THAT?????? come on ..no WAY
MFauli
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:15 PM
Ahoi,
really great episode.
But now I´m really hating Sasuke!
"Copying Lee´s Tai-Jutsu"........... wtf???
How can you copy jutsus which depend on enormous body training????
That was so terrible.
They showd us, how hard Lee had to train, and then Sasuke is fast the same only wihin a month.......... only thing i can say now....die, Sasuke!
;-)
cya,
Fauli
rEkKaShInObI
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:17 PM
THIS EPISODE KICKED ASS!!
I HOPE GAARA GETS SMASHED!
THIS FIGHT WAS A THRILLER,
BUT NOW THERES GONNA BE NO WINNER!!!
GAARA IS KINDA SCARY
I HOPE SASUKE BURRIES HIM!
LEE WILL SOON LOOK GOOD AS NEW
BUT FIRST SASUKE IS GONNA MAKE GAARA TURN BLUE!!!!
GO SASUKE!!
Anywho i liked this episode, it was totally cool. to some people he might look and run gay but his skills and training isnt! haha! id say he is the strongest genin in konoha now. there some funny ass parts to as stated. when the hokage turns his head slowly, i coulda died laffing. and when gaara was screaming his ass off, i was hella laffing to. hahahahha!!! HE SOUNDED LIKE HE STEPPED ON A NAIL!!!
anyways loved this episode, sasuke isnt gay, he runs kinda funny but yea.
Shikai
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:20 PM
It's the mask, no doubt.. they're sight is limited http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
Good eps. it was indeed.. I'm glad it didn't look crappy.. god.. i'm still having nightmares of 65.. Gaara sure creeped me out in 66-67.. Can't wait for 68, this stuff is getting better 'n better.. I hope Sasuke changes outfit, cuz it looks gay.. Don't u guys ever wonder how strong the hokage must be.. cuz all the other jounins have powerfull moves, consider what hokage can do...
Vagabond
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:25 PM
Man i really wish the quality of the animation would get better. I mean he didn't really bend his knees when he was running. I think a really good example of good animation in the series is the episode where sasuke fights orochimaru. If the gaara fight was animated like that then the episode would be twice as good.
rEkKaShInObI
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:31 PM
o yea, the sasuke copy lee gig, he cant copy it because he was in the hospital and didnt even see lee fight, and he was out with kakashi while lee was in the hospital. so whatchu guys talking about?
Beautiful Green Beast
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:39 PM
I dont want to spoil anything but if you look at the pixs from the "The Next Episode", you can clearly see that Kazakage reminds me of someone.
DB_Hunter
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:59 PM
Well with people saying it so much it's probably more of a spoiler than coincedence now isn't it? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif
Yea I think it was pretty crap the way Sasuke is almost as fast as Lee now in just one month... because Lee's Taijitsu depends on loads of training... it doesn't matter if you are an elite with a Sharingan or whatnot it's just not realistic even for anime standards to be that strong...
This is the first time I'm saying it but it's reminding me of DBZ (I loved that show btw) when they made it look stupid byt having Goten and Trunks go Super Saiyan and have uber powers as kids and then fuse and become Gotenks and take on the one of the most powerful fighters in the universe... that was stupid.
boomorman
Sun, 01-18-2004, 12:59 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>How can Gai compete with Kakashi...I think Kakashi is pretty freaking fast in order to pull off Chidori, and unlike Gai..he's got a ton of other jitsu's he can use.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I don't think we know how many jutus Gai has......
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Yea I think it was pretty crap the way Sasuke is almost as fast as Lee now in just one month... because Lee's Taijitsu depends on loads of training... it doesn't matter if you are an elite with a Sharingan or whatnot it's just not realistic even for anime standards to be that strong...</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Thats the whole point. Sasuke is a Genius. Without his Sharigan that wouldn't have happened. Lee even states that in the episode. Kakashi having a sharigan too; he was the perfect teacher. All Sasuke had to do was witness it then teach his body to perform at the same speed..... Plus when you think about it Naruto took 2 seconds to put his hands together and draw some Kybui power, and all the sudden he’s faster then Neji. So why can't Sasuke put a solid month of just speed/taijutsu training to work and become almost as fast as lee. A plus note for the die hard lee fans Sasuke still didn't have Lees endurance or the ability to open gates.
Also a side question do you think Gaara gets instant healing from his demon like Naruto?
rpat
Sun, 01-18-2004, 01:01 PM
just watched the ep for the third time and realized something, if you watch the preview for next ep, when you see kaze put a kunai on hokage's throat you see long black hair and that says to me that its oro, seriously look at the preview and watch it slowly you will see long black hair behind hokage, and that would make sense since oro wants to kill him.
DB_Hunter
Sun, 01-18-2004, 01:04 PM
I don't think so...... I thought that that was just one of Kyuubi's own special powers.
ComeComeParadise
Sun, 01-18-2004, 01:08 PM
yeah, and if Gaara did have a healing power, he wouldn't even know about it, as he has never had any sort of injury before Sasuke.
fiercekid84
Sun, 01-18-2004, 01:16 PM
SASUKE was weak alright http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif
phreakatron
Sun, 01-18-2004, 01:27 PM
i was also thinking it might be Oro. I mean we haven't seen him in a while, he seemed to really be paying attention to sasuke, the black hair, and we know oro likes to kill people and steal their look. I just hope Hokage gets out of the hold and they actually fight instead of a cheap death or something. it would suck if he got killed like that. I want him to kick butt and be around forever and pass his spot to Naruto.
Uchiha-Itachi
Sun, 01-18-2004, 01:29 PM
hmm nice episode indeed http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
Funny to see Kakashi pretending not to hear Gai, and baka Gai is falling for it all the time http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
And that jutsu Gaara was performin is his sand ball was kinda big lol http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif, noticed that he is saying the name's of the seals, but not even performing them http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
Something fishy about kazekage also though the last episodes.. why is he so intrested in Uchiha Sasuke ??? Especially when he saw Sasuke doing chidori he was all amazed and happy somehow, saying that he's a formidable opponent... Same goes for Naruto..
..got my doubts about it, but we'll see in the future..
frog hermit
Sun, 01-18-2004, 01:30 PM
gambunta gamabunta gamabunta http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif
itachi_
Sun, 01-18-2004, 01:39 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Uchiha-Itachi @ Jan 18 2004, 12:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>hmm nice episode indeed http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
Funny to see Kakashi pretending not to hear Gai, and baka Gai is falling for it all the time http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
And that jutsu Gaara was performin is his sand ball was kinda big lol http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif, noticed that he is saying the name's of the seals, but not even performing them http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
Something fishy about kazekage also though the last episodes.. why is he so intrested in Uchiha Sasuke ??? Especially when he saw Sasuke doing chidori he was all amazed and happy somehow, saying that he's a formidable opponent... Same goes for Naruto..
..got my doubts about it, but we'll see in the future..</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
If you really want to know.. look down...
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<span style='color:#D5DADD'> It's not Kazekage. He was assaassinated by Orochimaru. It's Orochimaru in kazekage's body. Orochimaru wants sasukes sharingan as you may know.</span>
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Uchiha-Itachi
Mon, 01-19-2004, 02:14 AM
Naruto summons Gama Bunta and it's game... Do you really think Sasuke nor Lee can beat Gama Bunta???
They could try tickle the Gama Bunta to death, cause seriously such a big creature doesn't get hurt by their punches and kicks ...well except for Chidori then http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
Aegis Runestone
Mon, 01-19-2004, 02:43 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Iznogoud @ Jan 19 2004, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
@uchiha itachi: I think sasuke would beat naruto with just taijutsu... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Wrong, Naruto has Gamabunta and Kiybuto on his side, that makes him very strong. Sasuke would have a VERY difficult time fighting Naruto. What I hate is that darn plan. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif
I want Sasuke to beat Gaara and then have him fight Naruto! It's no fair! Grrr....
Karasu
Mon, 01-19-2004, 03:15 AM
I dont think Naruto needs Gamabunta to fight with Sasuke.. I think Sasuke would beat the hell out of Naruto for a while just like in every fight he's been in. But in the end Naruto is starting to use his kage bunshin pretty whitty, he made the naruto rendan thing vs Kiba, and he used it to not fall off gamabuntas head, he used it smart in the forests last battle to impersonate all the others in the team, and he used it pretty smart vs Neji too.
Naruto is a dumb-smart fighter and he never gives up.. err well if he dies maby, and Naruto wont run out of chakara before Sasuke either. And he got the last super defence/offence he could get into non controllable Kyuubi mode like vs Haku.
DB_Hunter
Mon, 01-19-2004, 03:33 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Uchiha-Itachi @ Jan 19 2004, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Naruto summons Gama Bunta and it's game... Do you really think Sasuke nor Lee can beat Gama Bunta???
They could try tickle the Gama Bunta to death, cause seriously such a big creature doesn't get hurt by their punches and kicks ...well except for Chidori then http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Chidori would hardly have any effect on Gamabunta, because it can only go as far as the user's arm..... so for someone like GB that wouldn't even get through his fat layer below his skin.
Karasu
Mon, 01-19-2004, 03:42 AM
Well the chidori might be able to damage bunta a little but not in a dangerous way.. Bunta is like what 100x as big as Sasuke.. One stomp in the ground by him and Sasuke is totaly off balance and then just whoop him with an arm and he will be flying some hundered meters or so, Sasuke will feel that http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
As I said I dont think Naruto needs something as overkill as Gamabunta to beat a normal person.. Casue Bunta is so huge like Uchiha-Itachi said he probably wont ever get affetcted by a punch or a Kick made by something as small as a human..
Take the strongest punch ever delivered by a human and make that person punch a blue whale.. dont think the whale will care less about that puny human doing something with his hand. But kicks and punches in the Naruto world isnt the same as in ours http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif But I think Bunta is just too huge for something that small to have an impact.
rEkKaShInObI
Mon, 01-19-2004, 03:47 AM
sasuke built up stamina over the month, so hes kicking ass!!
and naruto always needs kyubi now. why cant he just win matches without him?
some people have time to complain about how fast sasuke is and how hard he didnt work n crap like that. well look at naruto, he became faster and stronger then neji in 2 seconds!! if u have time to complain about sasuke, reflect back at naruto.
Being a shinobi isnt about playing fair, its about being strong,
Karasu
Mon, 01-19-2004, 03:59 AM
Well it's true it is about beeing strong nothing else..
But it is still unfair looking from Lee's perspective. But Sasuke is an Uchiha and a Genious so thats always unfair in the real world to.. you can sit in school with a math problem for hours and hours and in comes a bright kid or someone who fids math easy and solves it in 1 sec.
Sasuke isnt as fast or a good as Lee is yet.. They say that it will affect his body using it for a long time.. thats where the differerance is..
And I dont know about this but.. Kakashi used his Sharingan when Lee opened the gates.. he only used the Sharingan then was it?.. just to keep up. Or did he use the sharingan before too?.. Cause that could explain why Sasuke learned how to fight like Lee even after the first encounter.. Kakashi could have copied some moves and shown it to Sasuke and let him copy them?.
I try not to see the chars bloodline's and abilities as cheating or cheap.. I just argue about them when ppl are calling Gaara cheap http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif If he is cheap then everyone else except Sakura and Lee are cheap.
Grey_wolf
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:00 AM
.. why do you all think Gamabunta is on narutos side?
If gamabunta was summoned to fight in a "Competition fighting" Gamabunta would NEVER helped naruto. He would help naruto if it is was really serious.. like the upcoming war. But not a simple fight VS sasuke or anythign else... remember Gamabunta isnt like a pet he can control how he wants.
(besides sasuke would kick narutos arse http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif )
AznKrackah
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:07 AM
saske ran so gay http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
and if that ANBU like knocked out Kiba like 3 episodes ago, why is Kiba all "hey thanks for healing Hinata and knocking me out. can i have another??" http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif
Karasu
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:09 AM
Hehe the discussion can go on and on and on... I think maby if Naruto dont have a comeback in a fight vs Sasuke.. Sasuke could be able to win one or maby more times vs Naruto. But to finnish Naruto off Sasuke like needs to kill Naruto for him to stop. So in the end Naruto would win anyways.. And thats mostly cause he is the main guy.. But I think Sasuke can push Naruto pretty damn far cause even if I think Sasuke is kinda dumb and to full of himself he has some things to back it up with http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif.
DB_Hunter
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:13 AM
Sasuke isn't the strongest Genin in Konoha, if you are trying to say he can beat everyone else. He still can't beat Rock Lee, but he seems to be giving Gaara a kicking because he knows how to do Jutsu. Chidori would be useless against Lee is Lee opened his gates again... he would just dodge it. I would say though that Sasuke MAY be the best all round fighter now, though he isn't used to the taijitsu yet and he runs out of breath quite quickly, whereas Naruto, even though it has yet to be seen if his Kyuubi speed is as fast as Sasuke/Lee's speed, does not run out of breath because he uses chakra to give him that speed.
rleland
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:21 AM
alot of people miss the point that just because you're strong doesn't mean your lame
i.e. "sasuke is so strong" is not a valid counterargument to "sasuke is lame"
other than that this has also been discussed to pieces lol
Viet-Elite
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:30 AM
That last part of the episode was interesting when they were launching the "Plan"
Karasu
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:31 AM
Correct.. I think the discussion should stop with that.. Different ppl like different chars in the series, it's as easy as that http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif..
It's their techniques that makes the different chars cool.. Everyone is cool in their own way.. You either like it or you dont.. Hate Gaara all you want but dont underestimate him just cause he dont use alot of jutsus. Same thing with Lee Dont underestimate him just cause he cant use any jutsus.. All Genins in the show are kids.. everyone of them will evolve eventually and become probably aloot stronger/faster/smarter and whatnot during the series Im pretty sure of it..
Just look at Naruto. Sasuke is still superior to Naruto as a Shinobi without his Sharingan activated.. But just as Lee, Naruto works pretty hard and dont give up. So Naruto will probably become a pretty decent shinobi when he grows some more.. He still has a pretty awsome amount of his own chakara.
KevKoN
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:31 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 18 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> o yea, the sasuke copy lee gig, he cant copy it because he was in the hospital and didnt even see lee fight, and he was out with kakashi while lee was in the hospital. so whatchu guys talking about? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ok maybe you didnt watch the anime before the exam actually started because sasuke fought lee and lee whipped his ass. pay more attention to flashbacks and shit before you make yourself look like a noob.
rEkKaShInObI
Mon, 01-19-2004, 04:33 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KevKoN @ Jan 19 2004, 03:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 18 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> o yea, the sasuke copy lee gig, he cant copy it because he was in the hospital and didnt even see lee fight, and he was out with kakashi while lee was in the hospital. so whatchu guys talking about? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ok maybe you didnt watch the anime before the exam actually started because sasuke fought lee and lee whipped his ass. pay more attention to flashbacks and shit before you make yourself look like a noob. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
why dont u shut the hell up and PM me instead, when he was fighting lee before the final exam he didnt take off his weights so basically lee didnt show off his full speed for sasuke to copy. you got owned.
Assertn
Mon, 01-19-2004, 05:08 AM
well.....it was lee's STYLE that was important.....not witnessing the speed that he moved....if sasuke can master lee's style, then getting that speed is just a matter of physical exercise
Destiny
Mon, 01-19-2004, 05:45 AM
Yeh, spose yer right.
I mean anyone can obtain speed if they work on it. It's not even an ability, but simple physical characteristic. During his training, Sasuke pictured Lee's speed as a goal, and i guess he reached it.
Grey_wolf
Mon, 01-19-2004, 05:56 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>saske ran so gay </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yeah well naruto farted so gay,Naruto danced so gay, Naruto acted so gayish in certian EPS
You found an EP when sasuke runs funny.. suddenly he is gay.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif
I would like to see you run that fast in a cool way http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
Uchiha-Itachi
Mon, 01-19-2004, 06:23 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DB_Hunter @ Jan 19 2004, 03:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sasuke isn't the strongest Genin in Konoha, if you are trying to say he can beat everyone else. He still can't beat Rock Lee, but he seems to be giving Gaara a kicking because he knows how to do Jutsu. Chidori would be useless against Lee is Lee opened his gates again... he would just dodge it. I would say though that Sasuke MAY be the best all round fighter now, though he isn't used to the taijitsu yet and he runs out of breath quite quickly, whereas Naruto, even though it has yet to be seen if his Kyuubi speed is as fast as Sasuke/Lee's speed, does not run out of breath because he uses chakra to give him that speed. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think Naruto is the strongest Genin of Konoha http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
He might act like a baka, but in combat he just pwnz period.
rEkKaShInObI
Mon, 01-19-2004, 06:28 AM
Grey_wof, karasu, and rleland are all correct on their posts, guys should listen to them more often.
itsgalf
Mon, 01-19-2004, 06:40 AM
yah, I agree with DB_Hunter
Gaining Speed is a matter of how hard and how much time you work at it. It doesn't matter if he's a genius, I don't see how he can become as fast as Lee in 1 month when it took Lee years to gain that speed...and we've all seen how hard and how much Lee worked at it.
Grey_wolf
Mon, 01-19-2004, 06:45 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 19 2004, 05:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Grey_wof, karasu, and rleland are all correct on their posts, guys should listen to them more often. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
mm yeah true.. just get so annoyed.. try to find stupid excuses to call someone.. bah screw this! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
everybody got his own opinion.
Aegis Runestone
Mon, 01-19-2004, 06:47 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 19 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> sasuke built up stamina over the month, so hes kicking ass!!
and naruto always needs kyubi now. why cant he just win matches without him?
some people have time to complain about how fast sasuke is and how hard he didnt work n crap like that. well look at naruto, he became faster and stronger then neji in 2 seconds!! if u have time to complain about sasuke, reflect back at naruto.
Being a shinobi isnt about playing fair, its about being strong, </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think you are missing the point of Naruto learning to control Kyubi. That's a MAJOR accomplishment and it does show that Naruto is strong! I don't see why you should complain about Kyubi, frist off, remember that Neji WOULD have beaten Naruto if Naruto had not used Shadow Replication and dug underground, leaving a replication behind to trick Neji into thinking he won. So if Naruto hadn't been clever like he is in most of the episodes, he would have lost, even with Kyubi's power.
Second off, I agree, Sasuke is an awesome character and he kicks rear. I'm Pro-Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and just about everyone else except the villians. Both Sasuke and Naruto have their strengths, IMO, Sasuke is stronger right now, but I could be wrong. Personally I agree that it's unfair to complain about Sasuke so much, considering he took a major beating from Oro(which at that time, Naruto was stronger). In any case, I hope it comes to a point where Naruot will fight Sasuke, but until then, I'd like to see them work together again like they did against Zabuza.
rEkKaShInObI
Mon, 01-19-2004, 07:32 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aegis Runestone @ Jan 19 2004, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 19 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> sasuke built up stamina over the month, so hes kicking ass!!
and naruto always needs kyubi now. why cant he just win matches without him?
some people have time to complain about how fast sasuke is and how hard he didnt work n crap like that. well look at naruto, he became faster and stronger then neji in 2 seconds!! if u have time to complain about sasuke, reflect back at naruto.
Being a shinobi isnt about playing fair, its about being strong, </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think you are missing the point of Naruto learning to control Kyubi. That's a MAJOR accomplishment and it does show that Naruto is strong! I don't see why you should complain about Kyubi, frist off, remember that Neji WOULD have beaten Naruto if Naruto had not used Shadow Replication and dug underground, leaving a replication behind to trick Neji into thinking he won. So if Naruto hadn't been clever like he is in most of the episodes, he would have lost, even with Kyubi's power.
Second off, I agree, Sasuke is an awesome character and he kicks rear. I'm Pro-Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and just about everyone else except the villians. Both Sasuke and Naruto have their strengths, IMO, Sasuke is stronger right now, but I could be wrong. Personally I agree that it's unfair to complain about Sasuke so much, considering he took a major beating from Oro(which at that time, Naruto was stronger). In any case, I hope it comes to a point where Naruot will fight Sasuke, but until then, I'd like to see them work together again like they did against Zabuza. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
you could be right. but can naruto really control kyubi? or does kyubi just want naruto to live long enough so he can find a way out?
Naruto-god
Mon, 01-19-2004, 08:05 AM
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif I think Naruto is very strong. Remember in the beggining of naruto when he could do clone technique right. After he got mad when his teacher was about to die he broke the seal on his body. This cause naruto's chakra to flow regularly. Because the seal seal kyubi's chakra and cause naruto's chakra to not flow right so he couldn't really control it. Lol thats all i have to say. Even without kyubi naruto still learns hot moves in the future.
Sasuke , Rock lee, Neji , shikamaru, kid with the dog never could remember your name., and even Fat Choji later on your the man all of yall. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif
Harageki
Mon, 01-19-2004, 08:20 AM
dont wanna turn this into an anti-sasuke thingie, but...
The use of sharingan is to copy stuff, of course..but something thats wierd is he trained sasuke in taijutsu to give him awesome speed for the chidori (as Gai/kakashi say). Why would you have to learn taijutsu specifically to increase your speed? 0-o...taijutsu is martial arts, hand to hand combat, defending yourself with fists/feet/etc...increasing your speed is completely different really. Are Track runners martial artists? also...Sasuke didnt need to use any of his taijutsu in the beginning; he was just showing off his stolen skills and being his usual arragont bee-atchy self. He could have used chidori from the beginning, or even some other jutsus..he knew Taijutsu alone couldnt defeat Gaara, so whats the use on pounding on him for a bit? all it accomplished was him looking good and Lee feeling like crap. But I guess he`s only doing whats in his nature >_>
Aegis Runestone
Mon, 01-19-2004, 08:32 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 19 2004, 06:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aegis Runestone @ Jan 19 2004, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 19 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> sasuke built up stamina over the month, so hes kicking ass!!
and naruto always needs kyubi now. why cant he just win matches without him?
some people have time to complain about how fast sasuke is and how hard he didnt work n crap like that. well look at naruto, he became faster and stronger then neji in 2 seconds!! if u have time to complain about sasuke, reflect back at naruto.
Being a shinobi isnt about playing fair, its about being strong, </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think you are missing the point of Naruto learning to control Kyubi. That's a MAJOR accomplishment and it does show that Naruto is strong! I don't see why you should complain about Kyubi, frist off, remember that Neji WOULD have beaten Naruto if Naruto had not used Shadow Replication and dug underground, leaving a replication behind to trick Neji into thinking he won. So if Naruto hadn't been clever like he is in most of the episodes, he would have lost, even with Kyubi's power.
Second off, I agree, Sasuke is an awesome character and he kicks rear. I'm Pro-Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and just about everyone else except the villians. Both Sasuke and Naruto have their strengths, IMO, Sasuke is stronger right now, but I could be wrong. Personally I agree that it's unfair to complain about Sasuke so much, considering he took a major beating from Oro(which at that time, Naruto was stronger). In any case, I hope it comes to a point where Naruot will fight Sasuke, but until then, I'd like to see them work together again like they did against Zabuza. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
you could be right. but can naruto really control kyubi? or does kyubi just want naruto to live long enough so he can find a way out? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That's true too, what is Kyubi up to anyway? >.>
fishfish
Mon, 01-19-2004, 10:19 AM
this episode sucked.. in terms of animation..
compare this episode with the ones with lee vs garra.. big difference..
manga is much betta than anime in this part..
just my opinion..
Iznogoud
Mon, 01-19-2004, 10:32 AM
Ok as you all saw it, he was ALMOST as fast as lee without his weights...
BUT his body won't allow him to use that very long...Lee can do it without being tired, since he trained so much, and always wear weights!
I'll also add that Rock Lee can open 5 gates, which makes him even faster and stronger and sasuke cannot.
I think rock lee still kicks ass and he would wipe sasuke's ass...
Well of course sasuke has other jutsus but i don't think he'd be fast enough to use them against lee.
Gaara was the worst possible matchup for Lee, he would have pwned Neji, Shikamaru, Temari, kankuro, naruto, Shino and well every other genin.
Well of course if you don't think about kyubi, with it naruto really kicks ass ^^
@uchiha itachi: I think sasuke would beat naruto with just taijutsu...
kimunist
Mon, 01-19-2004, 10:42 AM
what...
first, the animation of 66-67 was MUCH better than 65...and it was very close to the animation of the rock lee vs gaara eps...
and i dont know why people would think just because sasuke has the sharingan that he is cheap, or if naruto uses kyubi's chakra hes not that strong...seriously
they had to learn to use and control such horrific (in potential) powers...i mean...not everyone has the courage to ask the demon fox to lend him his powers, right?
as for sasuke, his sharigan and abilites are very strong in the sense that not only does he have potential to become very strong, it also requires him to train and practice very to hard to master them
(notice he only has 2 things in each eye when there should be 3)
as for the kyubi...
hes stuck inside naruto because of the seal, and he cannot get out...
so while hes at it, he might as well make sure his owner can fight and kill his oppoent, or else he dies too...
kyubi doesnt want to die, so he has to help naruto...
its a lose-lose situation for him really.
Grey_wolf
Mon, 01-19-2004, 11:03 AM
I <u>really</u> hate thoose who says "Sasuke is gay, sasuke is that ,lame ect"
I mean he is an <u>Uchiha</u> .. the power of Uchiha is the <u>Sharingan</u> the power of the Sharingan is to <u>Copy</u> moves and styles.
Now for thoose who is saying
"Sasuke is lame he copied rock lee and use it for his own good.. blabla"
No he isnt lame.. the power of Sharingan IS to copy! . To copy other moves and styles. And i think its awesome! and sasuke is doing great. Now lee he dosnt got any special eyes or things like that. The only thing he got is his will.
So if you really think its lame then its not Sasuke who is lame. He just saw it with his <u>sharingan</u>. So if anything is lame then it is the Sharingan.
I mean even kakashi can do over 1000 moves by others just couse he got his sharingan. That would make him lame to http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif
(Sasuke is cool.. way cooler then you! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif )
Karasu
Mon, 01-19-2004, 11:31 AM
Hmm.. Harageki. Sure the copying of Lee's moves can be seen as "dumb/lame" whatever, and you said that maby he is just doing what's in his nature to do..
I think Sasuke's use of taijutsu was a smart move.. Cause Lee, Kakashi, Gai, Sasuke all the others including us have no clue to how strong Gaara is actually or what it is that he can do.. The Lee fight seemed to be a pretty one way fight with Lee breaking through the sand shield and actually touch Gaara.. That had never ever happened before.
So I think Kakashi saw something in that way of fighting casue Sasuke is more "talanted" than Lee is in terms of Jutsu use and all that kinds of stuff.. The Speed can overcome Gaaras sand shield. But the thing is I have no clue if this was intentional or not but Gaaras sand didnt act the same way as it did vs Lee.. Gaara had allready seen that kind of fighting so the speed can also be seen as a bad but very much required move.
The sand seemed to keep pretty close to Gaara and damped Gaaras fall when he got kicked back and punched and all that. So in the end Sasuke had to use Chidori.. Might have been a smart move if he used it more wisely.. Wich I belive was the intention from the beginning, to overcome the sand with the speed and finnish with chidori. I belive Sasuke had to use that kind of speed to even be able to do even the slightest.. That Speed seems to be the only weakness we have seen so far.. And I think that was what Kakashi had in mind to be able to defeat the Gaara we have seen so far atleast.
But I dont think whatever Sasuke and Kakashi would have tried during that fight Sasuke wouldnt have won anyway.. That is atleast what I think.
So dispite how lame ppl might think Sasuke and the "stealing" of Lee's moves are, it was probably the only way to do it.. And sometimes you need to use things that might seem unfair to be able to win.
Hatake Kakashi
Mon, 01-19-2004, 11:47 AM
Yeah, Lee can't fight anymore, so I am sure he was kind of glad to see his moves live on in a way through Sasuke.
Just think how versatile Sasuke would be if he was able to watch the Preliminary fights! He could have copied a lot of techniques there.
astronut
Mon, 01-19-2004, 12:12 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kimunist @ Jan 19 2004, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>they had to learn to use and control such horrific (in potential) powers...i mean...not everyone has the courage to ask the demon fox to lend him his powers, right?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif i agree with kimunist
like in episode 66-67, Rock Lee admitted that he had to train for years to obtain the speed Sasuke uses, in other words, Sasuke only trained for 1 month. to imagine if he had a year to train, damn, he would be like gai http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif
Assertn
Tue, 01-20-2004, 02:06 AM
if you think about it.........its almost as if kishimoto put lee in the series for the sole intention of passing down his moves to sasuke.......
you COULD say that after his fight against sasuke......his only purpose in the show was to show off what his fighting style can do, and that its the trick to beating gaara....then after that he gets cast away and becomes just a sideline character http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/happy.gif
Jman
Tue, 01-20-2004, 04:06 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kimunist @ Jan 19 2004, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>what...
first, the animation of 66-67 was MUCH better than 65.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
So true...
http://www.littlecooldude.com/~animemaster/lazy1.jpg
http://www.littlecooldude.com/~animemaster/lazy2.jpg
Damn lazy animators http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
<span style='color:#D6DBE0'>They might as well write "mentos" over the headband.</span>
I'd hope that this recent slacking off doesn't become a trend...not that it's a big deal. anyways...
<span style='color:#D6DBE0'>lazy ass no jutsu</span>
66-67 made up for 65's crap.
Enjoyed the high quality action.
P.S. For those who don't notice anything, look at the headband.
rEkKaShInObI
Tue, 01-20-2004, 04:08 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (animemaster @ Jan 20 2004, 03:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kimunist @ Jan 19 2004, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>what...
first, the animation of 66-67 was MUCH better than 65.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
So true...
http://www.littlecooldude.com/~animemaster/lazy1.jpg
http://www.littlecooldude.com/~animemaster/lazy2.jpg
Damn lazy animators http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
<span style='color:#D6DBE0'>They might as well write "mentos" over the headband.</span>
I'd hope that this recent slacking off doesn't become a trend...not that it's a big deal. anyways...
<span style='color:#D6DBE0'>lazy ass no jutsu</span>
66-67 made up for 65's crap.
Enjoyed the high quality action.
P.S. For those who don't notice anything, look at the headband. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
WTF?!!!? LAZY ANIMATORS!!! AND THEY GET PAID TO DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kimunist
Tue, 01-20-2004, 05:05 AM
nah, i think he also made lee because rock lee represents all the ppl who dont have as much talent or gifts as others, yet he can suceed in many ways.
like they mentioned, hard-work can achieve over genius, although i dont know if thats true.
RaZzy
Tue, 01-20-2004, 06:32 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kimunist @ Jan 20 2004, 04:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> nah, i think he also made lee because rock lee represents all the ppl who dont have as much talent or gifts as others, yet he can suceed in many ways.
like they mentioned, hard-work can achieve over genius, although i dont know if thats true. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
then you mean every hard working human can overcome the hokage? (neji)
nah you have to have some kind of talent.. else everyone could be the strongest
in real life.. the strongest men are training there muscles every day.. and it doesn't matter who trains the hardest, cuz everyone trains hard.. and it's about the muscle structure and all.. and everyone having his limit.
about 66-67:
the animation was good although when sasuke was running 2 times it looked crap ( the one where he's running towards the camera and another one )
it were the same animators as the gaara/lee fight i think
nice episode btw
Karasu
Tue, 01-20-2004, 09:14 AM
Hehe nice http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif I very much doubt a Sandnin would walk up to Gaara doing what they did heh..
Grey_wolf
Tue, 01-20-2004, 09:21 AM
Oh.. thats lame http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif
Insomniac
Tue, 01-20-2004, 09:32 AM
he quickly stole Gaaras forehead protector and put it on, then switched it back once he died
Anbu Girl
Tue, 01-20-2004, 10:26 AM
the episodes was great..! I love it .. The animation was VERY good .. its much MUCH better than 65 .. sasuke was hella cool !! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif
and kakashi was so funny http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif ignoring Gai ..LOL, kakashi OWNZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!
Uchiha-Itachi
Tue, 01-20-2004, 11:11 AM
yeh kakashi ownz! XD
I hope he won't get hurt badly in the next eps http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif
Karasu
Tue, 01-20-2004, 11:33 AM
Nah I wouldnt worry about Kakashi.. If he gets to fight Kabuto/Orochimaru or maby Baki he will have a tough time. But dont think this war will give us alot of 1on1 fights.
skyro
Wed, 01-21-2004, 01:06 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AssertnFailure @ Jan 20 2004, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if you think about it.........its almost as if kishimoto put lee in the series for the sole intention of passing down his moves to sasuke.......
you COULD say that after his fight against sasuke......his only purpose in the show was to show off what his fighting style can do, and that its the trick to beating gaara....then after that he gets cast away and becomes just a sideline character http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/happy.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
This is a common occurance. For example remember how Naruto couldn't use his Kyuubi powers unless he was totally drained of chakra? Now let's see, what technique could we give Naruto's opponent, Neji, that would do that? 64-hands of hakke perhaps?
Of course that is not the only thing these characters do. It adds flavor to a would-be stale story if it was only about the main cast, and that is pretty much the point of it all - to keep it interesting.
P.S. Lee was a genius - he was a genius of hard work remember? Also he had the ability to open more gates than a normal person would.
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