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AznKrackah
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:18 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 14 2004, 02:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> quite confusing, mind boggling of you ask me. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
yes it boggles teh mind

LegendarySenninJiraiya
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:25 AM
i agree, they embed the chakra into things and body parts, like water, air, and their hands and feet, i dont think the rain ninja was guiding the needles with his chakra, i&#39;d have to go bakc to make sure, gaaras sand is controlled by him but thru demonic powers, the priest spirit gives him the ability to do what he does, temari, it&#39;d seem to me that she puts her chakra out into the wind that she thrusts out from her fan and causes them to form blades and from the speed of the wind pushing them it becomes damaging, if u could embed chakra into weapons and guide them to the people i think no one would miss, also, who&#39;s to say that if u could get ur chakra into a weapon u&#39;d be able to make it move where u want it to go, this isnt quite dbz, u cant just telepathically control chakra u&#39;ve already manifested outta ur body, or at least they dont give us any examples of that anyways, if that were the case u&#39;d have dbz on ur hands cuz all it&#39;d make sense to do is spit out a ball of chakra and send it at ur opponent and make sure it hits, and we dont want a dbz coming outta our naruto

p.s. - the only example i&#39;ve seen of someone controlling something that was thrown was sasuke with the sharingan controlled shurikens and we already know hes got strings attached

The Kyubi Naruto
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:26 AM
Good to know that there are many who think like me&#33;
Yeah you know where I&#39;m getting at&#33; You&#39;r all weirdos&#33; No... just kidding http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

The chakra isn&#39;t applied straightly to the weapon, but to amplify its effect.

Insomniac
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:31 AM
yeah, they cant put chakra directly into a weapon but they can put it around it if they know how to, its much like Dosu directing the sound by using his chakra - he forces it into the direction he wants it to go by applying chakra around it.
I think they only one possible of applying chakra into things is Neji and some of the higher up Hyuga (although we havent seen them we can assume they&#39;re as skilled with gentle fist as him) but they train their whole style to be able to do that, and its offensive chakra to damage internal organs

r3n
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:33 AM
tbh i dont think the naruto world is meant to be taken too seriously lol, jst look at the fact that they have televisions, VCRs, etc and yet they dont use mobilephones (would be handy to call in backup&#33;), cars, etc. so dont delve too deeply into the exact workings of the chakra system, i think the creators put chakra in to allow them to create a range of cool abilities, that wouldnt be possible without some cause for it, ie. chakra http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif.

The Kyubi Naruto
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:46 AM
Waht are you implying? Are you suggesting that...? OH MY GOD&#33; I&#39;ve just realized that you are not a true Naruto fan. You traitor&#33; The world of Naruto is everything to uss. Man you are mocking the god that is Naruto&#33; We will all beat you with our mighty jutsus&#33;
Not really.
j/k.

PS. I have heard of somekind of teleporter to Naruto world. Only two get to go.
But only tell this to true fans. ....................Whoops http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif

r3n
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:49 AM
im taking physics at university so i have every right to question the validity of the naruto world http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif

The Kyubi Naruto
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:56 AM
You really don&#39;t read science rewiews do you? This day many scientists agree on that there are multiple universes. Oops... But they all function the same way as our&#39;s. Damn

Well looks like I have to use the classic.

Naruto is a part of us. It exists within our minds and hearts. And by that we know it and hold Naruto dear and true.

Oh and it isn&#39;t said that it isn&#39;t possible to exist that kind of universe. Just very, very far away... (not like in distance or time, but from our laws of physics)

But maybe the people there have been able to awaken their previously hidden psychic powers. And this psycic power would be chakra&#33;

http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif I have no idea what i just said http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

LegendarySenninJiraiya
Wed, 01-14-2004, 02:57 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Jan 14 2004, 01:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeah, they cant put chakra directly into a weapon but they can put it around it if they know how to, its much like Dosu directing the sound by using his chakra - he forces it into the direction he wants it to go by applying chakra around it.
I think they only one possible of applying chakra into things is Neji and some of the higher up Hyuga (although we havent seen them we can assume they&#39;re as skilled with gentle fist as him) but they train their whole style to be able to do that, and its offensive chakra to damage internal organs </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
hes not the only one, neitehr is the hyuuga clan, many attacks involve chakra slamming the person, like temaris windattack and kakashi&#39;s lightning edge, even sorta sasukes fire attacks, and the upcoming chidori, he uses chakra to somehow produce fire and shoots it and lightning edge/chidori are just chakra that he slaps into the person lol as seen in the zabuza fight, so a lot of people can probalby attack with chakra like the hyuga clan can, but the diff is that they can slam the chakra into ur vital organs cuz they either know or can see all the vital chakra points in ur body, i know they can see ur chakra holes but i duno if they can see ur vital organs with byakugan, either way they&#39;re not the only ones that attack using chakra, just the best we know of

rEkKaShInObI
Wed, 01-14-2004, 03:04 AM
quite confusing, mind boggling of you ask me.

r3n
Wed, 01-14-2004, 03:07 AM
although naruto is fantasy i still presume its set on earth when i watch it, jst a persons imagination gone a bit wild http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif.

The Kyubi Naruto
Wed, 01-14-2004, 03:09 AM
Actually me too. I usually tend to keep my feet firmly on the ground.
And btw, physics is one of my majors too&#33; (althought im in college)

r3n
Wed, 01-14-2004, 03:16 AM
im going to either durham university (if i get the required grades) or st. andrews university (unconditional offer http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) to do physics next year. both are in the top 3 unis for physics in the UK, durham being the best (so the Times said)

The Kyubi Naruto
Wed, 01-14-2004, 04:01 AM
Man, you must be smart and rich... or just rich. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif
What are your grades? I take it that with the possibility of getting into one of the 3 top universities you must be good.

It would be nice to know if someone could make enchanted weapons.
Oh I know... The Creators. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

Hyuga Koji
Wed, 01-14-2004, 04:17 AM
Chakra seems to work by channeling it through objects to move them where you want to go Dosu was able to manipulate his soundwaves because they were coming from the speaker embedded in his arm

Temari could put chakra into the wind coming from her fan, Tenten puts it into the strings coming from her weapons and so does Sasuke for his triple blade everyone remembers Ino putting it through her hair to catch Sakura.

Even Lee puts some of his chakra into the bandages on his arms to make them come off for the Lotus.

You can manipulate objects with your chakra provided it is connected with your body the only exception seems to be Karasu with his puppet.

The rain nin was able to push his needles towards Gaara with his chakra before he threw his umbrella (remember the needles were pretty dispursed and Gaara never moved an inch)

If Gaara had tried running he wouldn&#39;t have gotten so many direct hits but some would have still connected.

kimunist
Wed, 01-14-2004, 04:31 AM
well, the rain nin explained that his justu was unstoppable because he GUIDED the needles with his chakra to strike the oppent (all the needles)...

so that must mean he was able to guide the needles around even IF the oppent moved.

so my idea was, why dont they do that for every weapon? or something.

ricefarmer
Wed, 01-14-2004, 05:32 AM
i haven&#39;t seen anyone embed chakra to controll where it goes everyone just aims and its just that it curves and stuff.. cuz if they could do it then the sharingan controlled shurikens wouldn&#39;t be so impressive..

Uberbaka
Wed, 01-14-2004, 07:38 AM
I would think that they can put chakra in the elements (wind, sand(earth), water etc) but not in items unless they&#39;ve trained some specific skill?

Sigure
Wed, 01-14-2004, 07:56 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kimunist @ Jan 14 2004, 04:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> well, the rain nin explained that his justu was unstoppable because he GUIDED the needles with his chakra to strike the oppent (all the needles)...

so that must mean he was able to guide the needles around even IF the oppent moved.

so my idea was, why dont they do that for every weapon? or something. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
BECAUSE NO ONE IS TALENTED LIKE ME&#33; MY RAIN NIN CAN USE CHAKRA BETTER THAN ANYONE&#33; I&#39;M UNSTOPPABLE&#33; *Puts flame wall so no flames on me about my &quot;death&quot; which never happen because the animation was so bad that it looked like i died*

The_Fourth
Wed, 01-14-2004, 11:15 AM
The nin that relies in his weapons the most would be...Kankuro? I dont think you can insert chakra into the weapons, I only think you can guide them or manipulate them. (however you want to call it)

Uchiha-Itachi
Wed, 01-14-2004, 11:29 AM
May the force be with you&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

kimunist
Wed, 01-14-2004, 01:02 PM
apparently people can put chakra into weapons (temari can put chakra in the wind, the rain ninja used chakra in the needles to guide them, gaara had chakra-imbued sand, etc.)

but...can anyone do this with ANY weapon?

like i dont see why they just dont guide their kunais at each other...or something

or like whenever they throw weapons, it would just follow their oppoents...

confusing...?

maybe it takes up too much chakra, but i dont know, needles arent that much smaller than kunai.

Anbu Hatake Kakashi
Wed, 01-14-2004, 01:10 PM
dunno i never really thought aobut that lol

Jman
Wed, 01-14-2004, 01:13 PM
I don&#39;t think that they can all do so. One who seems to rely the most on using chakra in his weapon is Kankuro with his Puppet Skill (Kugutsu no Jutsu). The only other thing that comes to mind when i think of using chakra to guide a kunai to an opponent is telekinesis and that&#39;s another topic which i isn&#39;t relevant in this case as chakra and tk energy are different things.

Krbadass
Wed, 01-14-2004, 01:22 PM
They can&#39;t put chakra IN the weapon, they can stick it on them but they can&#39;t put it in it, temari puts it with the wind and the wind blows it around.

The Kyubi Naruto
Thu, 01-15-2004, 03:13 AM
aww... That&#39;s cute&#33; But I have no idea what you just did. But I guess that was the point. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

I find it interesting that everyone is making long and very thorough explanations and arguments, but the point is, everything has already been said, I think. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

The thing with those weapons that don&#39;t touch the user or aren&#39;t hand touchable(like sound, sigure&#39;s (needles?) I thought they were kunai or sumthin http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif , and Kankuro&#39;s puppet)

Even Sakura said that she thought she was good at controlling chakra, but Kakuro would seem to be even better. And Sigure just controlled the kunai (or whatever don&#39;t have the patience to check) with his chakra. Nothing odd about it.
But of course Sigure you&#39;r one of a kind. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

RoMuLuu
Thu, 01-15-2004, 10:18 AM
Yes, I haven&#39;t ever really thought about this. &quot;needles arent that much smaller than kunai.&quot; &lt;--- I perfectly agree with that. I wonder why it hasn&#39;t happened. Maybe it&#39;s a really rare skill or takes much chakra? I don&#39;t know what&#39;s the answer. I also agree that no-one can put chakra directly into a weapon, but as it was possible to guide needles with chakra, then why it souldn&#39;t work with kunais?

itachi_
Thu, 01-15-2004, 10:55 AM
I think you&#39;ll need chakra to control your weapons, aiming,speed,strengt etcetera, you see... Naruto can aim like a god with chakra... Kids at 12 can kill a 30 year old beef-cake with just one hit... Weird..

r3n
Thu, 01-15-2004, 01:59 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Jan 15 2004, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think you&#39;ll need chakra to control your weapons, aiming,speed,strengt etcetera, you see... Naruto can aim like a god with chakra... Kids at 12 can kill a 30 year old beef-cake with just one hit... Weird.. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
http://www.jtownend.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/WTF.jpeg

kimunist
Fri, 01-23-2004, 05:00 AM
he used needles..

but...im just saying, no one in naruto tried using chakra to control kunais, swords, whatever weapons there are...

maybe its too much animation work?

astronut
Fri, 01-23-2004, 08:13 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kimunist &#064; Jan 23 2004, 03:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>but...im just saying, no one in naruto tried using chakra to control kunais, swords, whatever weapons there are...

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i agree, but didn&#39;t sasuke use his chakra to like move the webs that came out of his fingers? and like the pupeteer (forgot his name) used chakra to move his puppet.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p42d91f70e0a1213b09ee205904f7c9ca/f9d98248.jpg

kimunist
Fri, 01-23-2004, 08:48 AM
yea he did....


i was just hoping to see one of them throw a bunch of kunais, then like control them so they work similar to homing missles and whatnot...or if they were knocked far away from their weapon, they can control it back up to attack their oppoent...

i guess that would be a little absurd though...and i suppose the only reason sigure could control the needles was b/c it was his jutsu that specially did it, not everyone can control it i guess =P

Evil_Sasuke
Fri, 01-23-2004, 09:28 AM
I think that it is possible to guide items using chakra because when Tenten is fighting using all the weapon techniques she has Gai says she cant miss because she controls the items. Also with Kabuto when he manipulated the dead anbu to move the way he wanted so he could escape when trying to kill Sasuke.

kimunist
Sat, 01-24-2004, 01:49 PM
tenten just had the gift of accuracy and precision and that was her unique talent (like how sasuke has sharingan and neji has byukugan(sp?))

but, kabuto used a jutsu that animated a body to move around...it wasnt him controlling it with chakra...

its kind of like mind/body switch no jutsu, except you still have control of your own body.