Hidden Sound Ninja's

[Legendary Nin]

And when Sasuke gets out of the barrel,he too will be able to turn into a monster.

[Death BOO Z]

seeing how they failed to notice the fact that the sound four were the Kazakage's bodygurds, i won't realy trust that site about it.

but still, they probably are jounins, just cuz i can't believe Orochimaru will settle for anything less.

besides, purple flame array user? what the fuck is wrong with barrier?

and they really need to update according to the new chapters... geez, having nothing to say about the sound nins?

[Vagabond]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Legendary Nin @ Jan 12 2004, 01:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And when Sasuke gets out of the barrel,he too will be able to turn into a monster. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
This is kinda stupid and you probably already know this but that&#39;s actually a coffin he&#39;s in. Weird....... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

[Anbu Hatake Kakashi]

no curse seal is ay a high gennin curse seal levlel one high raked chunnin level 2 ranked seal... lower demon jounin..... remember? it took 4 or 5 sound nins at leve 2 cursed seals (forgot how miuch there were) too take on 2 jounins

[Vagabond]

Yeah thats probably accurate. I don&#39;t think one of them alone could have taken on Gemma.

[Legato 2057]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD @ Jan 12 2004, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> This is kinda stupid and you probably already know this but that&#39;s actually a coffin he&#39;s in. Weird....... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I feel stupid for not realizing that http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

As many times as I have watched Yojimbo, I should have recognized it right away http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Everon]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Legato 2057 @ Jan 12 2004, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD &#064; Jan 12 2004, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> This is kinda stupid and you probably already know this but that&#39;s actually a coffin he&#39;s in. Weird....... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I feel stupid for not realizing that http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

As many times as I have watched Yojimbo, I should have recognized it right away http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That makes more sense. My first reaction was that they were gonna pickle sasuke.

[itachi_]

Well got to admit that Neji and Chouji was great during their battle, because the sound ninja&#39;s that they were fighting with was at level: Jounin probably it says on
Click Here&#33; ('http://narutoguide.narutofan.com/biographies_others.htm')
Though it dosen&#39;t need to be true, but i also think that they were at jounin or greatly Chuunin&#39;s specially when they are at cursed seal level 2... maybe sound has a different shinobi rank system.. what do you think?

[Demon Brother]

when they are normal they are at least on quite strong chuunin level&#33; on level 2 theyre on quite strong jounin level i&#39;d say http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

[jing]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anbu Hatake Kakashi @ Jan 12 2004, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> no curse seal is ay a high gennin curse seal levlel one high raked chunnin level 2 ranked seal... lower demon jounin..... remember? it took 4 or 5 sound nins at leve 2 cursed seals (forgot how miuch there were) too take on 2 jounins </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
if u look at the last page of that chapter, they were only at level 1......... because u didnt see them as monsters.

[Nautek]

I don&#39;t like them. But I also think that they are Jounins. But as Gemma said their Jutsus are no longer those of shinobis.

[Demon Brother]

thats because on level 2 they transform into demons...

[Strigeln]

They are probebly at least very high chuunins.

Theres on thing I don&#39;t get a shinobi is a ninja right? and genin, chuunin and jounin are ninja ranks? so Gemma must have said &quot;their Jutsus are no longer those of genins&quot;?

or what did Nautek mean?

[Nautek]

I know that Demon Brother that&#39;s why I wrote it.

Strigeln I meant that they are no longer humans but monsters.

[Strigeln]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nautek @ Jan 12 2004, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Strigeln I meant that they are no longer humans but monsters. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Sorry about that, I totally forgot that Genma and an other Jounin fought them.

[Nautek]

It&#39;s allright http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif I don&#39;t think that any of the sound nins could have beaten Gemma one on one, nooo way.

If you look in chapter 186, atleast I get it as thet fought against Gemma and his friend Raidou at lvl 2 cursed seal but I might be wrong.

[KoRnTaco]

Choji&#39;s fight was better, FAR better. Now back to the hidden sound ninja&#39;s... They are strong, but the leaf&#39;s genin are KICK ASS&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Pyr0]

Yeah, they said that 2 jounin level ninjas is a bit heavy load and they activated the cursed seal lvl 2 and later on they said that if they wouldn&#39;t have activated the cursed seal they might have been defeated. I don&#39;t think they can activate cursed seal lvl 1 once you&#39;ve advanced to lvl 2. As you know in RPGs once you get enough xp and you reach next level you can&#39;t go back to the previous lvl... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

They are probably just as powerful as chuunins would be just like Naruto, Chouji and the rest of the gang. (though they aren&#39;t chuunins but anyway) Without the cursed seal they would&#39;ve no change against Naruto&amp;co.

Vagabond: Even when you said that it&#39;s a coffin i don&#39;t believe it. In what country do you bury ppl in barrels? I think that barrel isn&#39;t a coffin (u could say so but...) but a container to keep Sasuke alive. As you might remember they say that their barrier/seal spells will reduce the side-effects from death to temporary coma. U don&#39;t but coma patient in coffin, do you? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Legato 2057]

Actually Pyr0, it is a coffin, just like the old plain wooden ones you see in the old west movies, it is just a different shape than what you are used to.

[Insomniac]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>As you know in RPGs once you get enough xp and you reach next level you can&#39;t go back to the previous lvl... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

they showed off their level 1 seals against Sasuke when they first asked him to come with them

[Vagabond]

I just want to know how the seals are different. Like the Gaia and the heaven seals. How can one be more powerful than the other. Is it a more powerful jutsu or does it just depend on the hosts power.

[Pyr0]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Jan 14 2004, 07:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> they showed off their level 1 seals against Sasuke when they first asked him to come with them </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I&#39;m sorry if i&#39;m pain in the ass but how do you know they showed the lvl 1 cursed seal? I mean how can you notice the difference between them? Or does it mean when they activate the lvl 1 half of their face and body is covered and by activating lvl 2 whole body?

how do you know all this stuff? Many of you guys say things that hasn&#39;t come up in the manga yet so how do you know? Are those your own believes?

Vagabond: So i think there are higher level seal jutsus. If Orochimaru want&#39;s stronger subordinates then he puts higher lvl seal. That&#39;s what i think.

Who the heck is Kimimaro? His seal is equal in power to the Heaven seal and i think he&#39;s quite powerful. But what i don&#39;t get is why did Orochimaru leave from Kimimaro&#39;s body?

[Mut]

it&#39;s simple. at lvl 1, their body (starting from the left side) gets covered in black patterns (different for each person). at lvl 2, their whole body is covered (not in the patterns but some weird color) and their physical appearance takes another look. the new &quot;look&quot; resembles devils/demons.

[Pyr0]

I matter of fact that isn&#39;t true. Their physical form doesn&#39;t change unless they want it. At cursed level 2 as you said their whole body is covered in those marks, but those demon-like forms don&#39;t come automatically on activation of cursed 2 lvl.
So that i&#39;m not talking bullshit you can check the chapters (186) where the sound nins confront the 2 jounins in the forest. They activate cursed seal lvl 2 when they&#39;re fighting and they look like humans at that moment. And a couple chapters (189) later that fatty nin activates that demon form against Chouji.

[jing]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pyr0 &#064; Jan 15 2004, 04:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I matter of fact that isn&#39;t true. Their physical form doesn&#39;t change unless they want it. At cursed level 2 as you said their whole body is covered in those marks, but those demon-like forms don&#39;t come automatically on activation of cursed 2 lvl.
So that i&#39;m not talking bullshit you can check the chapters (186) where the sound nins confront the 2 jounins in the forest. They activate cursed seal lvl 2 when they&#39;re fighting and they look like humans at that moment. And a couple chapters (189) later that fatty nin activates that demon form against Chouji. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
um how do Uno?

like what im trying to say is, we never really saw them BEAT the 2 leaf nins. we only saw them change. maybe kishimoto didn&#39;t want to show us cursed seal level 2. n he wanted to save for later. makes sense to me.

[Legendary Nin]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD @ Jan 15 2004, 02:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I just want to know how the seals are different. Like the Gaia and the heaven seals. How can one be more powerful than the other. Is it a more powerful jutsu or does it just depend on the hosts power. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That is a question that will probably be left hanging for a long time.

[Vagabond]

Yeah but then how does that explain the other seals on the sound nin&#39;s.

[Pyr0]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jing &#064; Jan 15 2004, 04:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> um how do Uno?

like what im trying to say is, we never really saw them BEAT the 2 leaf nins. we only saw them change. maybe kishimoto didn&#39;t want to show us cursed seal level 2. n he wanted to save for later. makes sense to me. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yes, good point, but you can see in the chapter that before they attack, they activate the 2 cursed seal. And after that we saw a bit of the fight when one of them has kunai in her hand starting to attack. So i think they&#39;re not gonna change after that.

Btw.. Kimimaro looked way too cool. I&#39;m now officially Kimimaro&#39;s fan atleast to the point he dies http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Nautek]

Ehh doesn&#39;t Kimmimaro has a Gaia (earth) seal ?? Im quite sure of that. Then he should have a strong body.

[kaigan]

if you have a strong body, then you need a &quot;heaven&quot; seal to comprehend. that&#39;s what DBZ is saying.

you are right, kimimaru does have an &#39;gaia&#39; seal cause his body is weak.

[Death BOO Z]

remember the chunin exam?
at the tower they said that heaven is brain and earth is body, so maybe it means that Kimimaru has a strong brain and will, but he&#39;s ill and lacks &quot;earth&quot;, pyhsical fittness. while Sasuke&#39;s body is powerfull while his mind is weak and sick, so he needs a &#39;heaven seal&#39;. it can also show that Orochimaru prefers a sick mind with a healthy body over a normal person with a weak body...

just my random 2 cents.

[Nautek]

Mabey oro picked Kimimaro because he was super smart, and just put the gaia seal on to get him strong.

Imagine a Shika with a Gaia seal then http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif IF the gaia seal really means that you get&#39;s a stronger body.

[Death BOO Z]

actually, it seems like the seal is rather destroying who ever has it...

Kimimaru has the gaia (earth, body) seal and he&#39;s on the life support machine.
Sasuke has the ten (heaven, brain) seal and he&#39;s losing his will and giving in to power...


so remember, guys. don&#39;t let any pedophile bite your neck or chest, it&#39;ll kill you&#33;

[Pyr0]

Yeah, i agree. I think it wears your brain or body. I think Orochimaru had Kimimaro&#39;s body a long time and it shows even when he had the Gaia seal.

If anyone here has read Dragonlance, you can all remember Raistlin Majere. Super strong wizard with great wits but very fragile body. Goughing blood all the time... Just like Kimimaro seems to be http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

[Insomniac]

we know nothing about why Kimimaro was on that bed, the seal is MEANT to make people lose their will - its how Orochimaru commands his minions.

You dont see the sound 4 on hospital beds just from using their seals and they use their seals tonnes