65 Discussion

[nar'to]

this episode was a definite filler episode. what made it unbearable to watch for me was the sub-par animation.

personally, i was happy to see the entrance of susake and kakashi, there was a strong build to it and the renewal of the naruto/sasuke friendship/rivalry was intense. too bad the animation didn't do it any justice.

the way i see it, filler episodes OR episodes with poor animation just make the characters carry more substance and give a better animators more recognition. with this episode falling in both categories, i can't wait for the next ep......and there are 2 to boot!!!

[Elric]

Im starting to dislike Naruto...

well hopefully the next 1 hour special episode will cheer me up

[Karasu]

Well appart from the animations most chars looked horrible in that ep.. to fuck up gaara that much damn.. appart from that the ep wasnt that bad now was it?.. pretty amusing and as someone else said they want the fighting to start in the next ep.. 1 hour that means it's probably gonna be a nice nice nice fight http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

And finaly Gaara can whipe that pathetic look off Sasuke damn I didnt dislike him at the beginning and I didnt like him I was Neutral but damn he's so arogant http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif to full of him self, he doesnt even have to open his mouth his apperance pisses me off http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif. So Gaara better fuck him up real good so he shuts his damn hole..

[Assassin]

no one seems to have said anyhitng about sasuke's speed yet....in the preview we see him moving as a blur and dodging gaara's sand shield completely. could he possibly be as fast as lee now? he does have weights on his hands (well they look like weights atleast)

[rasengan]

this was 1 of the worst 1 i seen yet...the drawings.... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

[Grey_wolf]

I think this EP is good http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
i think almost all EP is good! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Only 1 was really anoying.. the one when Ino VS sakura.. and MASS flashbacks.

[Nine Tailed Demon]

new ending is cool...

[Grey_wolf]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nine Tailed Demon @ Jan 11 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> new ending is cool... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i ahte it.. false vocie.. bad ... its really messed up. The one before this was much better&#33;

[RoMuLuu]

Yup, this episode was maybe a bit boring as it was all waiting for Sasuke and Kakashi to arrive. But on the other hand I&#39;m happy that now the animators don&#39;t have to spread the fight between Sasuke and Gaara into two or more episodes. If the fight started in this episode, it wouldn&#39;t have ended until the next episode. And in my opinion it&#39;s funnier to watch the whole fight at once.

[ZakuHan]

Well it&#39;s been more than 24 hours so might as well open the thread :P

As been stated, the animation could have been a lot better in a lot of places. Aside from that, it just seemed like a pointless episode. The least they could have done was have a &quot;teaser&quot; ending, where they do a few moves to kind of get started, then wait til next episode to get to the real fighting. That atleast I could tolerate..

~Chris

[Kagari]

^^ agreed, we&#39;re all gonna be thankful for the &quot;filler&quot; as you half-fans call it, because when the fight breaks loose, we&#39;ll have a full hour of naruto goodness.


I liked 65....shikamaru is SO cool....Lee and Gai&#39;s reaction to Neji&#39;s loss was sweet.

that little discussion between naruto and sasuke before gaara came down was awesome, as well.....&quot;Hey&#33; Did you win the first match?&quot; and naruto&#39;s like &quot;of course&#33;&quot; and you could see in sasuke&#39;s eyes he was proud of naruto, and he wants to fight him....i like these episodes....

everyone calls it &quot;filler&quot;....just because there isn&#39;t a battle doesn&#39;t make it filler, cmon. Story is just as important, and 65 was story. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

[joker-kun]

65 was boring, 15 minutes for Sasuke to arive at the arena, I mean how many times do they have to say over and over and over, switching from head to head asking where is he, when is he going to get here. should we disqualify him no 10 more minutes no maybe 15 we get the fucking point Sasuke was late, then more of the boring ass Garaa shit, with him making his wierd sounds like he needs to take a shit real bad and then going off and killing more people. Lets get this fuckin show on the road, sheesh. I still love it though lol http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

[hiroshi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kagari @ Jan 11 2004, 08:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ^^ agreed, we&#39;re all gonna be thankful for the &quot;filler&quot; as you half-fans call it, because when the fight breaks loose, we&#39;ll have a full hour of naruto goodness.


I liked 65....shikamaru is SO cool....Lee and Gai&#39;s reaction to Neji&#39;s loss was sweet.

that little discussion between naruto and sasuke before gaara came down was awesome, as well.....&quot;Hey&#33; Did you win the first match?&quot; and naruto&#39;s like &quot;of course&#33;&quot; and you could see in sasuke&#39;s eyes he was proud of naruto, and he wants to fight him....i like these episodes....

everyone calls it &quot;filler&quot;....just because there isn&#39;t a battle doesn&#39;t make it filler, cmon. Story is just as important, and 65 was story. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ok. There is one thing i have to say to this.

Out of all the Naruto episodes, none of them can be classed as a simple filler due to the fact that they give you background info and storyline. Episode 65, is the first episode i can seriously call. A FILLER.

I&#39;m not a half fan as you say, it&#39;s just.... Think about what happened in the episode. Was there any background information at all? No. Was there any talk amongst the characters of any plans or of anything regarding the future? No. Was there any talk regarding the situation and the characters thoughts on it at all? Yes, with Rock Lee for about 2 and a half minutes.

This had no storyline in it at all. This had no background info at all. Even the animation was bad, like it was rushed. Seriously man, this is a true filler if ever there was one.

[itsgalf]

Yah, it was kind of boring. Why did they let only that one guy draw it? I mean 2 weeks for that episode, Is that a joke?

[kimunist]

not true...this episode was more than a filler...

well it served many purposes being:

1. intro to sasuke in the arena
2. rock lee and is emotions and thoughts
3. gaara losing control of himself (killing the 2 grass ninjas)
4. aftermath of shikamaru&#39;s loss more in depth

besides...you cant say this episode was worthless when the moment in the storyline is a bit tedious...

EDIT

and hiroshi, there was technically a plan made between characters in order what to do...the sasuke/gaara match =D

think of this episode as &quot;break time&quot; before the big 1 hour special http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[XwingRob]

I don&#39;t care for the new ending but I don&#39;t hate it.
You think a new opening will be next week?

[AznKrackah]

Filler episode, the best part about the episode was the preview to the next episode

[hiroshi]

the intro to the sasuke into the arena could of been done at the beginning of the episode and had the match then and there.

I did mentioned that they stated about Rock Lee&#39;s feelings on the matter, but it lasted barely 3 minutes.

They&#39;ve already demostrated how Gaara loses control sometimes before in earlier episodes. They could of done that in the same episode as the fight, it&#39;s just they made it soooo drawn out in order to fill more time. For instance, Shika states about Gaara killing without hesitation, yet Gaara took aaaaages to simply take the cork out of the gourd. It was obvious they were trying to fill as much time as possible with every scene so they could roll the fights into the 1hr special.

As for the aftermath of Shikamaru&#39;s defeat, well i guess that&#39;s true. But they did extend even that scene a lot longer than i feel was needed.

I&#39;m not saying this moment in the storyline is tedious. To say it&#39;s tedious is to have a repeat of something i didn&#39;t like. So far i haven&#39;t minded any of the Naruto episodes, except this one. This is the first i&#39;ve really had anything against.

The Sasuke and Gaara match was obvious to the plan the first time the guy said to delay the match. Having him say it a second time, and the 4th hokage agree a second time, just gave me total deja vu all over.

[Koyuki]

I think the episode was descent. It was thous koreans that animated that ep.
The original team have to make two episode to wednesday.

Can&#39;t wait http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

[itsgalf]

&quot;thous koreans&quot; eh? and that means?

[kaigan]

&#39;thous&#39; = those?

[Mgslee]

Considering that all the story elements needed in this episode would&#39;ve taken atleast half the episode, I&#39;m glad they stretched it out and didnt start the fight

why? Cause I dont want Woohoo animation studios (Korean based) to animaite it. I want (as we all do) want nara animation studios to do it...

You might be annoyed that this ep was &quot;filler&quot; but lots of the story elements are in place in the manga and defiently wont have the same feeling if they are rushed... at most they could&#39;ve saved 10 minutes but then what? A start of a crappy drawn fight like ep 45? no thank you.

[Grey_wolf]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kagari @ Jan 11 2004, 03:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ^^ agreed, we&#39;re all gonna be thankful for the &quot;filler&quot; as you half-fans call it, because when the fight breaks loose, we&#39;ll have a full hour of naruto goodness.


I liked 65....shikamaru is SO cool....Lee and Gai&#39;s reaction to Neji&#39;s loss was sweet.

that little discussion between naruto and sasuke before gaara came down was awesome, as well.....&quot;Hey&#33; Did you win the first match?&quot; and naruto&#39;s like &quot;of course&#33;&quot; and you could see in sasuke&#39;s eyes he was proud of naruto, and he wants to fight him....i like these episodes....

everyone calls it &quot;filler&quot;....just because there isn&#39;t a battle doesn&#39;t make it filler, cmon. Story is just as important, and 65 was story. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
yeah i liked it to http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
i like all EPS.. (almost.. just 1 i hate)

[jakkz]

Damn another filler ep&#33;&#33;&#33; As far as i know from reading a bit of the manga (stopped at ch.139 and glad i didnt read it all http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) ... there will be less filler eps on the way for some time

[sexy_no_jutsu]

why would we wanna discuss this ep http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

i&#39;d say forget it, erase from memorie and start waiting impitiently for ep 66/67 http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif

[Junichiro]

i hate that it was another filler ep, but some parts are good.

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naruto&#39;s reacation to those guys ddeath http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

[Insomniac]

he said those koreans because a korean team animated 65
one of their lower budget teams

gainex is doing the next two

[ezkial rage]

that new ending suxord real bad http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif . i think its too early for a new ending and begginning anyway. they should keep the viva rock ending till at least 75. this ending is even worse than harmonia, (though i actually liked harmonia). im not even gonna talk about the episode cuz its all been covered. just wanted to throw my 2 cents into the arena about this ending. very boring if you ask me. baad marketing. bad. bad.

ezk

[Kumiriko]

The consept of diffent Groups doing the same show just seems odd to me. why not stick with the Golden team and screw all eles. heck i wount mind if naruto aired every other week as long as all the eps were Golden

[Uzumaki Naruto]

this eps was very dissapointing waited more then half the eps for sasukes gay ass to show and all he did was talk to naruto and wuts wit his new look its not even kewl at all but i commended them for bringing rock lee back. anotehr gay thing is wtf is up wit the new ending its just pointless naruto just standing there and the song is bad to

[hiddenpookie]

i dum kare about animation really as long as they talk there in color and they move oo wow garra head like a light bulb duh&#33; it was supposed to be like that once u ppl complain.....let the golden team do it&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_gap.gif man s.u. hahha j/k that episode was a filler and the ending was a lame a waist of my mb space and a waste of complete
time

[Late]

Damn that animation sucked. Sasuke and Gaara looked really goofy. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif
But I can&#39;t wait the next episode. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

[A77ALiSTiC]

dont flame, but i kinda like the new outro (i also kinda like harmonia)
but i definately think that this ep was a waste... 95 percent because of the really bad ass animation.. if it was a bit better, then i would have accepted it.. but oh well, we have had a couple of good eps lately, so i guess they have to screw up every now and then.. cant wait for the one hor special http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif:D:D

[PSJ]

the animation sucked more than anything i have seen before. aside from that it wasnt that bad.

[Orion Guardian]

hmm I thought Chidori, Raikiri and LIghtning edge were the same things, but ok...

[nar'to]

i think that the naruto follows a common trend in a few japanse storylines. u show the fans a little something and then go all out in the main event. they sometimes throw in a swerve to continue the story or fool the fans.... and that is what im looking forward to. its just a way to hook in the fans to hopefully continue watching and want more. as to why they use crappy animators, who knows (perhaps nara studios are really expensive animators and their quality needs more time, so they sacrafice quality and use cheap animators to keep up with a weekly release them for us fans).

so call episode 65 the calm before the storm. its still a filler not only in story, but for the animators too.

you can see this stuff in a similar light to that of DBZ and japan/WWE wrestling. there should always be a bulid up before a key fight, its just good storytelling, if it wasn&#39;t there, i probably not enjoy the show as much as i do.

[Assertn]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Orion Guardian @ Jan 11 2004, 07:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> hmm I thought Chidori, Raikiri and LIghtning edge were the same things, but ok... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
well you cant really make such an assumption off just the anime.....since the one that has previously been referenced so far (excluding the previews), was the raikiri (translated into lightning edge). It&#39;s relation to chidori hasnt been explained yet

[-ANBU-Sasuke-]

Nessacarly it didn&#39;t have to take nearly 30 minutes to decide the fate of Sasuke (disqualifyed or not). Then the unessacary talking, then the flashy leaf arival. BLAH THEY COULDA cramed that in like 10 minutes. But you know how TV anime works. Stall time and let the veiwer keep having to tune in to find out whats next.

O well hope that one hour special or what ever is gonnna be cool.

[Vagabond]

I agree that the episode sucked but I don&#39;t see how the episode was a filler. Most everything that happened occurs in the manga. Besides wouldn&#39;t you rather have the one hour episode be the whole fight instead of starting it in ep 65 and finishing it in 66.

[rEkKaShInObI]

episode 65 was uhh, uber boring, waited hella long time for this to. sasuke did not get a new voice actor, and quality is bad-ass, the episodes just boring.

[holangi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Jan 11 2004, 07:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> episode 65 was uhh, uber boring, waited hella long time for this to. sasuke did not get a new voice actor, and quality is bad-ass, the episodes just boring. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
dont worry there&#39;s a chance that 66 and 67 will come out at once this week.. that&#39;d be cool.. hope they get their regular animators back though..

[Uchiha-Itachi]

Filler episode indeed -.-;;; 15 mins for sasuke to arrive.

And then the best part ... 5 mins for gaara to walk down the FRIKKIN stairs?&#33;?&#33;

omfg.. why doesnt he just teleport down or jump down or whatever like everyone else does loool.. this was so stupid. Though the kills in the stairhall was funny though. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

I&#39;m getting DBZ flashback with these annoying filler episode&#39;s.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif

[itachi_]

Gaara&#39;s balloon head... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

They didn&#39;t even had that scene with the feudal lords discussion about their bet in the manga... they had like 2 minutes about that, filler episode, damn&#33;

[a_nevels666]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Uchiha-Itachi @ Jan 11 2004, 09:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Filler episode indeed -.-;;; 15 mins for sasuke to arrive.

And then the best part ... 5 mins for gaara to walk down the FRIKKIN stairs?&#33;?&#33;

omfg.. why doesnt he just teleport down or jump down or whatever like everyone else does loool.. this was so stupid. Though the kills in the stairhall was funny though. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

I&#39;m getting DBZ flashback with these annoying filler episode&#39;s.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Stop calling it a filler episode, it&#39;s not. The manga was exactly the same.

[DB_Hunter]

I think they have spoiled the next ep with that ending.... unless ofcourse the next ep(s) is gonna be so mad that even by revealing the stuff they have it&#39;s still gonna be awesome.

[Ryno2410]

If you watch the anime from start to finish, you don&#39;t care about the filler episodes because then you can watch the next one. That&#39;s what I&#39;m like right now with One Piece. IF it seems like a filler episode, i dont&#39; care because I have the next one&#33; Anyway, it wasn&#39;t much of a filler episode because all of it was in the manga. You can&#39;t have awesome episodes all the time. Anyway, after this episode, I&#39;m looking forward to...say...the next 10-15 episodes of really good stuff.

[True_strengh]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (joker-kun @ Jan 11 2004, 03:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 65 was boring, 15 minutes for Sasuke to arive at the arena, I mean how many times do they have to say over and over and over, switching from head to head asking where is he, when is he going to get here. should we disqualify him no 10 more minutes no maybe 15 we get the fucking point Sasuke was late, then more of the boring ass Garaa shit, with him making his wierd sounds like he needs to take a shit real bad and then going off and killing more people. Lets get this fuckin show on the road, sheesh. I still love it though lol http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
yea it feel like the streching out the programs with nonsense .....irritating

[The_Fourth]

I havent seen the episode http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif , but from what I hear there is no need to worry.

[Assertn]

the stuff they put in the episode was stuff that needed to be shown.....they stretched out the waiting for sasuke a little more than they did in the manga because this way thay can keep all the fighting within an hour long special. It makes perfect sense&#33; And as for animation.....we&#39;ve gone over that before, the less talented studios are always given the less significant episodes, since somebody&#39;s gotta make them, and better to reserve the high quality stuff for the good scenes.

NICE job with the new subtitles.....if Anbu/Aone were to go and change their previous releases using those subs......then i&#39;d finally be able to have eps 49-64 consistent with a single fansub group&#33; (As of right now ive been forced to judge between readability and grammar every week)

[hiroshi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Uchiha-Itachi @ Jan 11 2004, 01:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Filler episode indeed -.-;;; 15 mins for sasuke to arrive.

And then the best part ... 5 mins for gaara to walk down the FRIKKIN stairs?&#33;?&#33;

omfg.. why doesnt he just teleport down or jump down or whatever like everyone else does loool.. this was so stupid. Though the kills in the stairhall was funny though. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

I&#39;m getting DBZ flashback with these annoying filler episode&#39;s.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yeah i totally agree. If you think about what actually happened, the whole episode was a total waste of time. Nothing happened&#33; A load of talking, a load of silence, and that&#39;s all. They don&#39;t even talk about anything which is important to the storyline. Or even talk about a persons background or anything. Total waste of time.

Oh and i have to agree about the animation. It&#39;s like they changed the artist or something. For instance, Naruto&#39;s head in the end sequence is way too high, and Sakura&#39;s face when Sasuke finally appears is as dumb as hell, and Sasuke&#39;s face looks like a fan drew it rather than the proper artist.

The animation had better improve or it&#39;s going to completely ruin it all for me. Also i hope they don&#39;t waste anymore time like that, i can&#39;t believe i had to wait 2 weeks for that http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

From that episode, although i&#39;m being quick to judge, but i&#39;m getting fed up of Naruto as well. I will hang with it longer of course, because it would be unfair to judge the whole thing on one episode. But man...... 2 weeks for that? =/

[IamSpazzy]

All of the anime that came out right after the break I think sucked in terms of animation. I think it&#39;s because all the japanese animators were off on vacation and the episodes went to some lowest bidder outside contractor.

[itachi_]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hiroshi @ Jan 11 2004, 10:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Uchiha&#045;Itachi &#064; Jan 11 2004, 01:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Filler episode indeed -.-;;; 15 mins for sasuke to arrive.

And then the best part ... 5 mins for gaara to walk down the FRIKKIN stairs?&#33;?&#33;

omfg.. why doesnt he just teleport down or jump down or whatever like everyone else does loool.. this was so stupid. Though the kills in the stairhall was funny though. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

I&#39;m getting DBZ flashback with these annoying filler episode&#39;s.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yeah i totally agree. If you think about what actually happened, the whole episode was a total waste of time. Nothing happened&#33; A load of talking, a load of silence, and that&#39;s all. They don&#39;t even talk about anything which is important to the storyline. Or even talk about a persons background or anything. Total waste of time.

Oh and i have to agree about the animation. It&#39;s like they changed the artist or something. For instance, Naruto&#39;s head in the end sequence is way too high, and Sakura&#39;s face when Sasuke finally appears is as dumb as hell, and Sasuke&#39;s face looks like a fan drew it rather than the proper artist.

The animation had better improve or it&#39;s going to completely ruin it all for me. Also i hope they don&#39;t waste anymore time like that, i can&#39;t believe i had to wait 2 weeks for that http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

From that episode, although i&#39;m being quick to judge, but i&#39;m getting fed up of Naruto as well. I will hang with it longer of course, because it would be unfair to judge the whole thing on one episode. But man...... 2 weeks for that? =/ </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Did you noticed gaara&#39;s face too, balloon head&#33;

[Assertn]

One other thing...i was kinda dissappointed with the scene they had of rock lee thinking about naruto and sasuke and having his hand bleed.

In the manga, they made a symbollic comparison between him holding the bar of that crutch and him holding the bars of a closed gate that showed sasuke and naruto on the other side, in a place where he isnt good enough to enter. It seemed more emotionally powerful than the way they did it in the anime

[umdiddly]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AssertnFailure @ Jan 11 2004, 10:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> One other thing...i was kinda dissappointed with the scene they had of rock lee thinking about naruto and sasuke and having his hand bleed.

In the manga, they made a symbollic comparison between him holding the bar of that crutch and him holding the bars of a closed gate that showed sasuke and naruto on the other side, in a place where he isnt good enough to enter. It seemed more emotionally powerful than the way they did it in the anime </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
in the manga all this pineapple-crock seemed a hellaofa shorter too.... i just flipped through a page or two, and BANG. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

[LegendarySenninJiraiya]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AssertnFailure &#064; Jan 11 2004, 10:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> One other thing...i was kinda dissappointed with the scene they had of rock lee thinking about naruto and sasuke and having his hand bleed.

In the manga, they made a symbollic comparison between him holding the bar of that crutch and him holding the bars of a closed gate that showed sasuke and naruto on the other side, in a place where he isnt good enough to enter.* It seemed more emotionally powerful than the way they did it in the anime </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
i dunno, the way they did it in the anime was pretty damned sad, but that damned Sadness song almost brings me to tears anyways so it musta been that, i dont think its a good idea to sorta indicate that hes not good enough to enter that area, maybe thats why they changed it, because Rock would&#39;ve beaten any other genin there than gaara, i mean against neji, it may be a good battle, maybe neji would win, who knows, but at the point before he fought gaara he coulda beaten anyone but gaara himself, so to indicate he&#39;s not good enough probably wasnt the idea they wanted to get across, it was just that he was taking the loss and injury hard and that he felt he failed his way of the ninja, thats just my opinion anyways

i personally didnt find the animation too repulsive, i find that in most eps that people complain a whole lot about the animation, i dont seem to care/notice, in this case i did notice but i didnt really notice enough to care, gaaras head being a LIL balloony doesnt really change the episode itself, the problem with that episode to me wasnt the animation it was the teasing, they took forever and it was really slow, i didnt like the animation as much as i liked other eps. but again i didnt care, there was no action to show off so who cares if gaaras head is balloony as they show him walking down some steps, boohoo, if its balloony next week when they fight, then its time to form an angry mob, but for now just be glad it wasnt like the kiba fight, that was like scooby doo animation and at a cool ass fight too

[Orion Guardian]

I think we can be sure about some things:

1. the Animation was really bad [gaara looked fat indeed, as he walks down the stairs ;D]
2. The incoming from Sasuke was too long [ I found it some way to prolly]

and some things I myself found bad: Sasukes new look, and his Pseudiciil reactions as in the begin of the series, in some why it pissed me off in this ep.

and the Preview of the next eps was spoiling hrm...I didn&#39;t want to know yet, that Sasuke has Chidori....

[hiroshi]

Chidori? wth is that? I did watch the preview, but man&#33; did you have to say it? I didn&#39;t even hear of that until now, and a lot of people here probably didn&#39;t watch the preview due to the kind warning someone gave earlier. Jeez man.... be more careful.

[PSJ]

lol didnt noe that they told about the chidori in the preview and a 1 hour sasuke ep? man that sucks. i want some more naruto fighting no sasuke.

[MegaMika]

I liked the episode, the killing by Gaara is great. Only thing thay I really hate is the HORRIBLE way the characters were drawn. Do this a few more times and no one likes Naruto anymore.

[Assertn]

does the name even matter? chidori shouldnt have any meaning to you guys yet anyway

[DB_Hunter]

I thought Chidori was lightning edge?

[Naruto]

i say three words: WORST EPISODE EVER&#33;&#33;&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Hinata-chan]

kakashi performed chidori in episode 19 against zabuza - to my knowledge he did not say what his move was - just that it is his only original

so in theory AssertnFailure is right

[Kumiriko]

He did have some name for it. it is called Lightning Edge in the sub. will rewatch eps like now.

Ok it was eps 18. 19 is the aftermath. anywas. Yah.

[chiko^2]

that &quot;chidori&quot; of yours is actually called &quot;raikiri&quot;. &quot;chidori&quot; is another move altogether, yet to be seen.

[itsgalf]

I would have preferred that they shortened everything into 10 minutes of that episode, but not started the fight. Instead they should have just ended the episode right there after 10 minutes and not wasted my damn time...

great kthx

[Guest]

This episode wasnt that bad, there are far more anime with these kind of fillers, but in Naruto you atleast dont get any reruns of scenes u already saw a thousand times.
(the gaara head was very evil though)

[SIZE=14]and could people plz stop making this much topics or could the leader change the forum, so that it displays in &quot;a far easier to overlook&quot; way?, hell I dont even remember where i posted my last post yesterday, since it already is on the other side of page 3.
Also the topics created are pure BULLSHIT topics and they are of no use to any form of activity in this community.
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[hiroshi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (?igma @ Jan 12 2004, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> you must be in emotional distress, if you cant even watch a simple(normal) episode.
some people for example hate beans, cant eat, cant see, cant hear or they start to sweat all over their bodies. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Eh? a direct comment is that? could that possibly be flaming there? Who are you directing this to anyway? Me or the person who posted before you?

Come on, play nice http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

[Beautiful Green Beast]

Bah&#33; 65 was just a warm up before the mightiest of the mightiest matches&#33; I cant wait for 66-67&#33;&#33;&#33; Sasuke Goes Wild&#33;

[el3ctro]

i actually didnt notice the bad animation much, i thought with gaaras head they were trying to show u it through a convex/concave lense.. i forget the name...

however the episode had no point except for a thing we call &quot;suspense&quot;
its this amazing concept that if you make someone more eager for something that theyll probably enjoy it 100x more if its any good

personally i can wait for a few eps for something to happen, as long as its good


and btw about 65, i think sasukes waaay too overconfident...
he hasent even seen gaara fight yet.

[rEkKaShInObI]

uber boring episode, just a time killer. another dragon ball z...

[hiroshi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD @ Jan 12 2004, 12:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I agree that the episode sucked but I don&#39;t see how the episode was a filler. Most everything that happened occurs in the manga. Besides wouldn&#39;t you rather have the one hour episode be the whole fight instead of starting it in ep 65 and finishing it in 66. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yeah perhaps it does happen in the manga. But did those few scenes take 25 minutes to read? I highly doubt it, it only took the anime 25 minutes because they were stretched out so long on purpose, when they could of fitted all of it in like 10mins.

Igma, the idea of the forum and this specific area of the forum, is to discuss what we think of Naruto. This is not a pointless topic, because we are talking about what we think of Naruto Episode 65. Also all the other topics are done by the community for their own reasons, and I doubt everyone in this forum is going to suddenly stop posting suddenly, simply so you can keep track of your own posts. If you want to keep track of your own posts so much, visit more often.

Ok, i will stop arguing about how pointless i considered this episode seeing as some of you seem to think this episode was a very important point in the Naruto series. However, i stand firm on the fact that most of it was unnecessarily drawn out, and it should of been squashed down to 10 minutes. Also the animation was terrible, i stick by that one too =P

[Demon Brother]

the reason the &quot;bad&quot; animators made ep 65 was because the good ones were busy in making the 2 eps in one special which takes like 2 weeks to finish so therefore they sat some not so good animators on the boring ep..

[Guest]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hiroshi @ Jan 12 2004, 05:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD &#064; Jan 12 2004, 12:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I agree that the episode sucked but I don&#39;t see how the episode was a filler. Most everything that happened occurs in the manga. Besides wouldn&#39;t you rather have the one hour episode be the whole fight instead of starting it in ep 65 and finishing it in 66. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yeah perhaps it does happen in the manga. But did those few scenes take 25 minutes to read? I highly doubt it, it only took the anime 25 minutes because they were stretched out so long on purpose, when they could of fitted all of it in like 10mins.

Igma, the idea of the forum and this specific area of the forum, is to discuss what we think of Naruto. This is not a pointless topic, because we are talking about what we think of Naruto Episode 65. Also all the other topics are done by the community for their own reasons, and I doubt everyone in this forum is going to suddenly stop posting suddenly, simply so you can keep track of your own posts. If you want to keep track of your own posts so much, visit more often.

Ok, i will stop arguing about how pointless i considered this episode seeing as some of you seem to think this episode was a very important point in the Naruto series. However, i stand firm on the fact that most of it was unnecessarily drawn out, and it should of been squashed down to 10 minutes. Also the animation was terrible, i stick by that one too =P </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I wasnt talking about this topic, but i didnt feel like making a new one if u get what i mean, but &quot;rock lees most ultimate move&quot; and then tomorrow: rock lees most ultimate move that u would like to see are BULLSHIT topics.

[xTrunkZx]

was it me or was sasuke&#39;s hair longer and did he have a black shirt?

[Guizmo0]

they messed up some things in my opinion bcuz in the manga it was great and therefore i was verry dissapointed with this episode

- sasuke/kakashi&#39;s arrival just seems lame...
- when naruto says yhe i won the first match .. kakashi smiles 4 a second doesnt happen... WICH IS VERRY VERRY IMPORTANT &#33;&#33;
- the joke of being late just seemed stupid in that episode...
- and they just messed it up with lee and gai entering the stadium .. in the manga you really thought AH FINALLY SASUKE AND KAKASHI but in the ep they just spoiled it with lee&#39;s stick.
- the scene with lee being all down seemed stupid compared to the manga


these points i was really really looking forward to and it seems they just messed it all up... could have been a great episode but it didnt :/

[Ganesh]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guizmo0 @ Jan 12 2004, 08:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> - when naruto says yhe i won the first match .. kakashi smiles 4 a second doesnt happen... WICH IS VERRY VERRY IMPORTANT &#33;&#33;

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i agree about that, however if you notice in teh trailor for the next episode you do see kakashi do that. when naruto and shikamaru are in the crowd you see kakashi look up at him like you described, so they did add that in.. but in a different spot.

[Mange Sharingan]

I think this episode was ok but i want to get to the action already. Sasuke&#39;s voice was like he jus went through puberty in the training, i wish he had is regular voice, it just sounds better.

And Guizmo0, do you remember the part when the feudal lords were like, there was a rumor about the uchiha kid being badly injured, maybe they showed it to make you think for 2 seconds Sasuke injured is leg or something.

[hiroshi]

Theoretical discussions. They have their reasons. =P
Besides, i often find forums die pretty quickly if new topics arn&#39;t made every few hours. I don&#39;t care how many are made frankly, as long as everyone takes part and the forum keeps active.

Don&#39;t complain about fellow posters, or you&#39;re likely to get in trouble with someone. I don&#39;t mind your comment so much, i&#39;m just giving you my view of things as they are, and i am also taking yours as a view rather than anything personal.

Leave it to the mods to decide what should go and what should stay. It isn&#39;t your place to decide. If you&#39;re not happy with the mods decision, take it up with them through PM&#39;s. But i don&#39;t think they would be too happy with you questioning their decisions. For your own sake, i would stay silent on this rather than proceeding with this matter further.

[makkura]

i agree with guizmoo about the lee entrance.

they ruined it http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif

[itachi_]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (?igma @ Jan 12 2004, 02:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> This episode wasnt that bad, there are far more anime with these kind of fillers, but in Naruto you atleast dont get any reruns of scenes u already saw a thousand times.
(the gaara head was very evil though)

[SIZE=14]and could people plz stop making this much topics or could the leader change the forum, so that it displays in &quot;a far easier to overlook&quot; way?, hell I dont even remember where i posted my last post yesterday, since it already is on the other side of page 3.
Also the topics created are pure BULLSHIT topics and they are of no use to any form of activity in this community.
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It was WORD BY WORD <u>Worthless</u>, like unwatchable.... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

[Guest]

you must be in emotional distress, if you cant even watch a simple(normal) episode.
some people for example hate beans, cant eat, cant see, cant hear or they start to sweat all over their bodies.

[Guizmo0]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ganesh &#064; Jan 12 2004, 07:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guizmo0 &#064; Jan 12 2004, 08:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> - when naruto says yhe i won the first match .. kakashi smiles 4 a second doesnt happen... WICH IS VERRY VERRY IMPORTANT &#33;&#33;

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i agree about that, however if you notice in teh trailor for the next episode you do see kakashi do that. when naruto and shikamaru are in the crowd you see kakashi look up at him like you described, so they did add that in.. but in a different spot. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
nonono thats a whole other thing http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/happy.gif


highlight to see what it is (spoiler) : <span style='color:#D6DBE0'> here kakashi says naruto shut up and watch and then sasuke smiles and performs CHIDORI </span>


Mange Sharingan : lol why would sasuke come to the match injured he already fought once when he was screwed up and now kakashi trainend him OUR SUPER 1337 ninja then he cant come back injured it would just be too... lame

[kaigan]

what is there to discuss about episode 65? it sucked, the animation blows. NOTHING IMPORTANT HAPPENED&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; 3/4 of the episode shows how the new sasgay even look gayer. that&#39;s it.

[RealoRc]

What village did those two ninjas come from? The ones that Gaara killed.

[pat-the-1337]

it was a great ep. it was just a good way to build up for the hour long special so u guys now are are like woot cant wait and just think how good this ep will be knowing that u get to see it form start to finish of the fight (i hope). it owould have been a gay special if it had been frim middle of fight to finish am i wrong?

[DezertE]

Sasukes clothes and hair are cool, but they F&#39;ed up sasukes face when hes saying his name to the examineer &quot;Uchiha Sasuke&quot;, it looks so messed up... gah but yeah, his har is longer cuz i guess he didnt cut it for a month http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

[Shino]

66-67 better be the best episode of naruto ever made

[rEkKaShInObI]

i agree that the episode is stupid and retarted n everything. it is gay gay gay gay gay. its better for the new naruto fans to just skip that one.

[Guest]

you all seem to be waiting for certain &quot; moments&quot; in the anime to make it cool for you.
Instead I follow the red line and have to say that the only disturbing thing was the animation.

It might not have been a GREAT episode, it certainly didnt suck.
I think you should look more carefully to the thing that are shown in the non-action episodes. Often it shows things you will suddenly later on realise to be very important.

[makkura]

let me get this straight....you guys are complaining about something you&#39;re getting for free ?? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

hmph http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif

[simplyxme]

i didnt mind the episode and i didnt realize anything different about it. I was too excited http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif for this episode to care but its such a teaser http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif since nothing happened. Now i really really NEEEED to see wut happens next.. im tihnking they did it on purpose http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif to kill ppl like me&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_gap.gif

[rEkKaShInObI]

there was no point to that episode.

[UcHiHa~SaSuKe]

there is nothing about this esp... i think the next esp will be a great one... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Shikai]

just wanna say: Balloon head Gaara omfg

[Nara Shikamaru VI]

worst episode ever. graphics looks as if my kid bro drew it and where are all those cute chibis at the end?? nevertheless i gobble it up like a thanksgiving turkey

[rEkKaShInObI]

nothing looked any different, sasuke did not get a new voice actor. the episode just sucked, they stall to lon.

[Nara Shikamaru VI]

dude everything looked different
Sasuke;s hair
Gaara&#39;s head
the background

[hiroshi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (?igma @ Jan 14 2004, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nara Shikamaru VI &#064; Jan 14 2004, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i dont know about u but i dont download lisence anime or even know where to download them </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
well , then u must be really stupid lol http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ok well firstly. When companies make anime, they don&#39;t think about the possibility of people fansubbing it online. It&#39;s not something they really think about as their goal now is it?

When they create anime, they do it with the intention of having it licensed and sold on DVD format through retailers. Sometimes they have to release it to the TV though, before another company with the power to license such things, will draw their attention on their particular anime. Also showing it on TV is a good way to draw fans to buying the DVDs.

So basically, every bad drawing they make in the anime, will eventually end up in a DVD which we will be paying for. It&#39;s only thanks to the fansubs, that people outside of Japan get to see the free versions of the anime, because the companies don&#39;t like it going outside of Japan until they have applied it to DVD format and start making real money out of it.

So the quality you see will not be free for us. If it wasn&#39;t for the Fansubbers, you would have to PAY for that.

?igma, i&#39;m seriously starting to get pissed off with your attitude towards the people who come to this forum. You have no right to insult their intelligence, or make any such comment against anyone who visits these forums at all. If you don&#39;t chill down, i&#39;m going to start complaining.

[Guest]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hiroshi @ Jan 14 2004, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (?igma &#064; Jan 14 2004, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nara Shikamaru VI &#064; Jan 14 2004, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i dont know about u but i dont download lisence anime or even know where to download them </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
well , then u must be really stupid lol http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ok well firstly. When companies make anime, they don&#39;t think about the possibility of people fansubbing it online. It&#39;s not something they really think about as their goal now is it?

When they create anime, they do it with the intention of having it licensed and sold on DVD format through retailers. Sometimes they have to release it to the TV though, before another company with the power to license such things, will draw their attention on their particular anime. Also showing it on TV is a good way to draw fans to buying the DVDs.

So basically, every bad drawing they make in the anime, will eventually end up in a DVD which we will be paying for. It&#39;s only thanks to the fansubs, that people outside of Japan get to see the free versions of the anime, because the companies don&#39;t like it going outside of Japan until they have applied it to DVD format and start making real money out of it.

So the quality you see will not be free for us. If it wasn&#39;t for the Fansubbers, you would have to PAY for that.

?igma, i&#39;m seriously starting to get pissed off with your attitude towards the people who come to this forum. You have no right to insult their intelligence, or make any such comment against anyone who visits these forums at all. If you don&#39;t chill down, i&#39;m going to start complaining. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Well then u first have to come with more then just the one time I actually called somebody a moron.

There is NOT ONE person in this world that, knowing the world of i-net, doesnt know a way to download licensed anime. If that person says that he doesnt, he is a liar.

it was a sarcastic remark, yes, but u have no right telling me so.

, besides, if the above was to reply on my 3e last post, I was saying the same damn thing.
Dont complain when u got anime through internet and it sux, cuzz anywhere else u gonna pay for it and find out too late.

P.S complain all you want, my country has press-freedom, urs might not have, but this forum lives up to democratic rulz I think.

[hiroshi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (?igma @ Jan 14 2004, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nara Shikamaru VI &#064; Jan 14 2004, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i dont know about u but i dont download lisence anime or even know where to download them </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
well , then u must be really stupid lol http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ok first the direct insult stating this guys a moron. But also:

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>?igma Posted: Jan 12 2004, 07:05 AM
and could people plz stop making this much topics or could the leader change the forum, so that it displays in &quot;a far easier to overlook&quot; way?, hell I dont even remember where i posted my last post yesterday, since it already is on the other side of page 3.
Also the topics created are pure BULLSHIT topics and they are of no use to any form of activity in this community.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Critisizing the way people use the forums. Directed at the members of this community in general.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>?igma Posted: Jan 12 2004, 03:27 PM
you must be in emotional distress, if you cant even watch a simple(normal) episode.
some people for example hate beans, cant eat, cant see, cant hear or they start to sweat all over their bodies.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Directed specifically at itachi_ who stated the episode was worthless and unwatchable.

They&#39;re just from this thread alone. I&#39;m not going to look outside of this thread, but please be more cautious about what you wish to say.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>4.No flaming</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
As taken from the Rules of this forum.

Not everyone knows how to download licensed anime. Just because you know how to, dosn&#39;t mean everyone who has the internet does. There are people out there who are ignorant of that fact, and just because you&#39;re ignorant of those people, dosn&#39;t mean you&#39;re right.

Anyway, With regards to episode 65.
Just wondering, but if the animation was as bad as episode 65 throughout the rest of the series, would it still be an anime you would consider buying on DVD?

Episode 65 left me a little disappointed, but so far i think i would still buy the DVDs. If it was like this throughout though, it would be a hard decision for me =P

[Hatake Kakashi]

I am not a big fan of the new ending.

Oh and to all of you anime only viewers out there...soon you will find out why they chose the ending theme of &quot;Harumonia&quot;

It has something to do with &quot;Darkness was born, then Light was born, the two are one...&quot;

[Guest]

Your argumentation is showing flaws when you replace &quot;you&quot; by &quot; you, the lot of you&quot;
I am not flaming a whole group, just criticizing the way they get pissed off over one episode.
It&#39;s just so ...sad...
And I dont buy anime over 26 Episodes.

Bebop
Hellsing
Neon Genesis
FLCL

got them almost complete. Nee 2 DVD of Neon , 1 of Hellsing, 1 of Bebop, 2 of FLCL.

Also got Kenshin O.V.A , the only good Kenshin is the O.V.A one, the rest is rape.http://forum.icreo.net/images/smiles/finger2.gif

Anime with over 26 episodes is not worth buying, I&#39;d rather just burn them all. (cd-burning that is)

But the thing is: The animation was very bad, the storyline didnt really..move any further... BUT this is an episode that is part of a bigger whole.
Anime is not 100 episodes, its 50 hours of playtime. You shouldnt see them apart.

I&#39;ll excuse for the idiot part though, it wasnt meant as litteraly , just sarcastic. I truly believe that someone saying that he doesnt know even one&#33;&#33; way of downloading licensed anime, is lying.

If you say you never heared even of KazAa , ur lying.

[Augury]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>animation was sooooooooooo bad....we might aswell laugh about it
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it was troublesome, but i took 9 screenshots of the episode
ENJOY&#33;&#33;&#33;

N1: Who&#39;s that guy???
N2: Hey it&#39;s all flat&#33; :S
N3: No more pills for this guy...
N4: OMG is this the guy we&#39;ve all been waiting for???
N5: AARGHH ... yep...
N6: I think this one is done in MS Paint &#33;
N7: The idiot pulling out his dildo...
N8: Muhahaha...
N9: Naruto finds it funny what gaara just did....must be something stuck in his ass</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> I agree that the animation for 65 was pretty bad in some areas, but most of it seemed fine. Out of the screenshots you chose I&#39;d say only 6 and 7 are the ones that I noticed when I watched it for the first time (along with balloon-head Gaara and happy Sakura, too). The other ones don&#39;t seem so bad. That #7 of the nin pulling out his kunai was pretty idiotic, though. I think Naruto is smiling in the last one more as a crazy-power-filling excitement from seeing murder than from being happy. Perhaps Naruto thinks or knows inside of him that he can compete with Gaara.

[RaZzy]

no ... i dont remember that good but i think he looked scared in the manga instead of an almost laughing face...
i can&#39;t believe you like any of those pictures.. it&#39;s BELOW average.. if you look at N1 (shikamaru) he looks so much different.. it&#39;s just not shikamaru
btw with every screen you can see that it were those korean dudes animating this episode .. it&#39;s just so ugly.. why didn&#39;t they just let a few students do something.. they&#39;ll prolly do a better job than this

[hiroshi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (?igma @ Jan 14 2004, 07:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Your argumentation is showing flaws when you replace &quot;you&quot; by &quot; you, the lot of you&quot;
I am not flaming a whole group, just criticizing the way they get pissed off over one episode.
It&#39;s just so ...sad...
And I dont buy anime over 26 Episodes.

Bebop
Hellsing
Neon Genesis
FLCL

got them almost complete. Nee 2 DVD of Neon , 1 of Hellsing, 1 of Bebop, 2 of FLCL.

Also got Kenshin O.V.A , the only good Kenshin is the O.V.A one, the rest is rape.http://forum.icreo.net/images/smiles/finger2.gif

Anime with over 26 episodes is not worth buying, I&#39;d rather just burn them all. (cd-burning that is)

But the thing is: The animation was very bad, the storyline didnt really..move any further... BUT this is an episode that is part of a bigger whole.
Anime is not 100 episodes, its 50 hours of playtime. You shouldnt see them apart.

I&#39;ll excuse for the idiot part though, it wasnt meant as litteraly , just sarcastic. I truly believe that someone saying that he doesnt know even one&#33;&#33; way of downloading licensed anime, is lying.

If you say you never heared even of KazAa , ur lying. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I don&#39;t understand the beginning of that.
As for the crisitism, that&#39;s fair enough. I wouldn&#39;t mind, as long as it didn&#39;t have remarks which appear to be aimed specifically as hostile. I shall drop that one.

It&#39;s good you&#39;re buying anime. Dosn&#39;t matter how many as such, as long as you&#39;re actually buying it, you&#39;re supporting the anime industry. I thank you for that, because i know there are some people who don&#39;t even do that.

When you specify that the rest is rape for kenshin, that&#39;s a matter of opinion. Thus saying something like &quot;In my opinion, the rest is rape.&quot; would be more appropriate, rather than stating it as a matter of fact.

Your argument for this episode your view of it. It&#39;s a very good point, but again in my view (Which you don&#39;t need to take to heart specifically), this 25 minutes was not needed so much in the whole. It could of been put to 10 minutes, and still have the same importance.

Thankyou for seeing my point about the moron comment. I&#39;m happy that you wish to talk about this fairly. I understand this thing about people not knowing the P2P world when they have the internet is hard to believe, and that you honestly believe it&#39;s impossible. But there are indeed many hundreds of ignorant people out there, and i even know a few of them personally. It takes knowledgable people such as yourself in these matters, to introduce those ignorant people to them. Nobody in existance, will know of these applications instantly as soon as they get the net, nor will they know without someone as yourself to talk to about their internet interests.

If they don&#39;t talk about the internet with their friends much, they are less likely to find out. I know many people who are surf the net all the time, but are more interested in talking about cars and sports with their friends, than the net itself, and thus are very ignorant about a lot of what the net is capable of.

Nobody would lie about the knowledge of Kazaa, unless presented with a governmental/authority figure asking the question. They would have no reason to otherwise. However, people are allowed to be ignorant.

If you wish though on that subject, we can also leave it as a matter of opinion.

[Guizmo0]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RaZzy @ Jan 14 2004, 10:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> gonna post what i posted in open discussion http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

animation was sooooooooooo bad....we might aswell laugh about it
--
it was troublesome, but i took 9 screenshots of the episode
ENJOY&#33;&#33;&#33;

N1: Who&#39;s that guy??? ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N01.jpg')
N2: Hey it&#39;s all flat&#33; :S ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N02.jpg')
N3: No more pills for this guy... ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N03.jpg')
N4: OMG is this the guy we&#39;ve all been waiting for??? ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N04.jpg')
N5: AARGHH ... yep... ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N05.jpg')
N6: I think this one is done in MS Paint &#33; ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N06.jpg')
N7: The idiot pulling out his dildo... ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N07.jpg')
N8: Muhahaha... ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N08.jpg')
N9: Naruto finds it funny what gaara just did....must be something stuck in his ass ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N09.jpg')

Had enough yet ??
-- </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
N7 and N9 are freakin funny http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Guest]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hiroshi @ Jan 14 2004, 04:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
When you specify that the rest is rape for kenshin, that&#39;s a matter of opinion. Thus saying something like &quot;In my opinion, the rest is rape.&quot; would be more appropriate, rather than stating it as a matter of fact.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
What I say is always my opinion, a nice touch to the whole was the middlefingeremoticon I added later.
That was to all of those that think its cool waving around with a wooden katana. and that its cool he start crying every ten min he beats someone up. (my opinion http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[Assassin]

from those 9 pics, the sasuke ones look SOOO gay.......if u look closely, u c that sasuke has no nose....only a V-shaped line thats supposed to look like a nose


anyway, animation was horrible, and the plost was mediocre.......but im not complaining too much.

as for those who think we can&#39;t complain just cuz we get it for free......well, the animators job is to draw it, and to draw it well (they are professionals after all).....thats what THEY get paid for. so when we c a crappy ep like that, we wonder y the hell the animators decided to suck so much.....

its just like if an engineer was to design a bridge.....if the bridge is all wobbly and shaky, someones gonna have the engineers ass on a platter. he&#39;s being paid to build a bridge, and he should do it well

[mystyc]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Jan 11 2004, 05:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> he said those koreans because a korean team animated 65
one of their lower budget teams

gainex is doing the next two </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ahhhhhhh.... That&#39;s why it looked like Sasuke was late because he was smoking weed with Kakashi. Oh well.

But geez, they should have retitled that ep, &quot;Naruto waits for Sasuke&#33;&quot;

[hiroshi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mystyc @ Jan 14 2004, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac &#064; Jan 11 2004, 05:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> he said those koreans because a korean team animated 65
one of their lower budget teams

gainex is doing the next two </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ahhhhhhh.... That&#39;s why it looked like Sasuke was late because he was smoking weed with Kakashi. Oh well.

But geez, they should have retitled that ep, &quot;Naruto waits for Sasuke&#33;&quot; </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif

[paran0id]

All I have to say about this episode is that it was the worst animation and
graphics ever.. Hope that the person who did this episode never
is allowed near a pencil or such ever again.

[Guest]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (makkura @ Jan 13 2004, 10:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> let me get this straight....you guys are complaining about something you&#39;re getting for free ?? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

hmph http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Finally someone realises

[rEkKaShInObI]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (?igma @ Jan 14 2004, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (makkura &#064; Jan 13 2004, 10:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> let me get this straight....you guys are complaining about something you&#39;re getting for free ?? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

hmph http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Finally someone realises </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
good point

[Nara Shikamaru VI]

so wat u say is that when u gets legion of fans, yer allow to slack off?? without fans, other company wouldnt sponser them, without sponsers, they go bankrupt. unless they want that to happen. btw some of us pay according to the bytes we download, so when we download something that we think it&#39;s worthwhile and turn out to be lower than our expectation, we sure have the right to complain

[Uchiha-Itachi]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (makkura @ Jan 13 2004, 10:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> let me get this straight....you guys are complaining about something you&#39;re getting for free ?? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

hmph http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Dude that isn&#39;t free you have to pay for your internet remember, mkay?

And it still wouldn&#39;t be a reason to mess up episodes..

kthxbye~

[RaZzy]

gonna post what i posted in open discussion http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

animation was sooooooooooo bad....we might aswell laugh about it
--
it was troublesome, but i took 9 screenshots of the episode
ENJOY&#33;&#33;&#33;

N1: Who&#39;s that guy??? ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N01.jpg')
N2: Hey it&#39;s all flat&#33; :S ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N02.jpg')
N3: No more pills for this guy... ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N03.jpg')
N4: OMG is this the guy we&#39;ve all been waiting for??? ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N04.jpg')
N5: AARGHH ... yep... ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N05.jpg')
N6: I think this one is done in MS Paint &#33; ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N06.jpg')
N7: The idiot pulling out his dildo... ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N07.jpg')
N8: Muhahaha... ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N08.jpg')
N9: Naruto finds it funny what gaara just did....must be something stuck in his ass ('http://wsouldm.homestead.com/files/N09.jpg')

Had enough yet ??
--

[Guest]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nara Shikamaru VI @ Jan 14 2004, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> so wat u say is that when u gets legion of fans, yer allow to slack off?? without fans, other company wouldnt sponser them, without sponsers, they go bankrupt. unless they want that to happen. btw some of us pay according to the bytes we download, so when we download something that we think it&#39;s worthwhile and turn out to be lower than our expectation, we sure have the right to complain </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
so you put yourself in the same place as &quot;some of the people&quot; that do pay?
And next you say that without us, they would be bankrupt, well to put it simple, the anime-industry misses out on alot of billions all over the world, since anime is now up-coming and more and more licensed and we are still downloading their anime, without paying for it.
And if you really are paying for downloading stuff..can I laugh plz ?

[Nara Shikamaru VI]

i dont know about u but i dont download lisence anime or even know where to download them

[Assertn]

yeah but companies dont produce anime to appease the online community.....it would not have been their slightest intention to rip off someone who has to pay to download something off the internet.

[Guest]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nara Shikamaru VI @ Jan 14 2004, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i dont know about u but i dont download lisence anime or even know where to download them </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
well , then u must be really stupid lol http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

[simplyxme]

yea i would buy naruto.. if it was out.. but the series hasnt even gotten started yet from what i heard. My friends who read naruto tell me that A LOT more will happen. So i really cant wait http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

[*kibakun*]

all i know is that it sucked big time so ha. i think whoever drew it sucked too, seriouslly no offense im an artist also and im still not as good ok, but the regular artist was way better. and there wasnt even a beginning to the battle damn it. whateva im trying not to complain damn it.

[Nara Shikamaru VI]

if we cant voice up our opinion in this DISCUSSION thread, then whats the point of making it in the first place. the thread should be named &#39;Because it&#39;s free i cannot discuss about it thread&#39;

[Nara Shikamaru VI]

and some of the people here are showing some early sign of rabid fanboyism (yeah i am looking at the direction of ppl that flame others because they say one of the Naruto episode is poor in quality)

what i meant was i dont bother looking for anime that are lisence because i rather buy them in stores than download them. the reason i download anime is because they are not out in stores. pah

ps:sorry for double posting, need to get that off my chest

[Insomniac]

instead of double posting you could have edited your first post http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

as for quality, YES this episode was very badly drawn but that was because they were saving funds for future episodes to be drawn excellently

[r3n]

i love naruto but ill still comment if i think something about the series is crappy. nothing is perfect remember http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif


(apart from me)

[Orion Guardian]

another one from me to Lightning edge...
Gai tells, in 66/67: &quot;Chidori&quot; also called &quot;raikiri&quot;....this sentence tells me: Raikiri = Chidori = lightning edge, or not? There is no diffrence made between these two names..