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The Kyubi Naruto
Wed, 01-07-2004, 02:04 AM
I think that Sasuke will be turned to support jackson for a while. Probably he will think that he must get stronger, but then again, oro might order him to kill naruto or someone else... so that's a conflict for him.

But in the end... I think that they will get Sasuke back.

DeluxSkillz
Wed, 01-07-2004, 03:32 AM
Kimimaro is no more just partial memories of his past life remain in Orichimaru's concious, Orichimaru is now in that body so i think he'll go and whoop some ass, if you read chapter 199 carefully enough you could see that Kabuto was watching scenes from battles before and how Orichimaru said he was gonna posses his body and tried to comfort him in a way by telling him that some of his memory will remain

Harageki
Wed, 01-07-2004, 04:01 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DeluxSkillz @ Jan 7 2004, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Kimimaro is no more just partial memories of his past life remain in Orichimaru&#39;s concious, Orichimaru is now in that body so i think he&#39;ll go and whoop some ass, if you read chapter 199 carefully enough you could see that Kabuto was watching scenes from battles before and how Orichimaru said he was gonna posses his body and tried to comfort him in a way by telling him that some of his memory will remain </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Huh? that means I misunderstood that whole part. I always thought that Kimimaro guy was the one on the bed in the bandages. Hm.

-ANBU-Sasuke-
Wed, 01-07-2004, 04:04 AM
Hmm it depends, but curse level 2 is going to be a good thing to watch, but there isi going to be a down side to it, as it extracts charka without a limit from his body, it all depens on the amount of charka that sasuke has. THis kinda seems like the 8 celestrial gates. Imagine if naruto had it with his monstruous charka and stamina?? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif

DeluxSkillz
Wed, 01-07-2004, 04:09 AM
yeah he is but it&#39;s orichimaru in that body he talks like he&#39;s kimimaro sort of like a schizophrenic but if you watch kabuto he&#39;s watching a tape of what happened before so it can&#39;t be Kimimaro because on the tape Orichimaru says he&#39;s gonna take his body also the guy on the bed says something like &quot;I no longer have the capacity for the metampyschosis...in fact, it&#39;s quite difficult to discover my purpose now that i&#39;ve lost everything.&quot; i guess orichimaru or kimimaro&#39;s conciousness but i think it&#39;s orichimaru refers to the fact that he won&#39;t be able to switch body for a couple of years, if any one could point me out why i&#39;m wrong i&#39;d gladly hear it but i think this is what&#39;s up

kaigan
Wed, 01-07-2004, 04:19 AM
sasgay is a lost dog. they won&#39;t get him. if sasgay goes back, the whole developement that kishimoto put on all those chapters are a big waste and there will be lots of disapointing people.

Naruto
Wed, 01-07-2004, 04:20 AM
mh i think the second &#33;
sasuke is a bad DEVIL&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

primalspas
Wed, 01-07-2004, 05:37 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DeluxSkillz @ Jan 7 2004, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeah he is but it&#39;s orichimaru in that body he talks like he&#39;s kimimaro sort of like a schizophrenic but if you watch kabuto he&#39;s watching a tape of what happened before so it can&#39;t be Kimimaro because on the tape Orichimaru says he&#39;s gonna take his body also the guy on the bed says something like &quot;I no longer have the capacity for the metampyschosis...in fact, it&#39;s quite difficult to discover my purpose now that i&#39;ve lost everything.&quot; i guess orichimaru or kimimaro&#39;s conciousness but i think it&#39;s orichimaru refers to the fact that he won&#39;t be able to switch body for a couple of years, if any one could point me out why i&#39;m wrong i&#39;d gladly hear it but i think this is what&#39;s up </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
here is what my take on what happened, kimmimaro is sick as it is now, which is why he is on the bed hooked up to machines and kabuto is speaking the in the present to the body on the bed (who i believe is kimmimaro and not oro), and that is why that remark about no longer having the capacity, he is sick. I am fairly sure that kabuto is watching a live feed of oro taking over the villagers body. If Kabuto were watching a tape i don&#39;t think that he would be talking to kimmimaro in present tense about the next body and why he isn&#39;t suitable. In regards to the comment about losing purpose, i think that kimmimaro was prepared to have his body taken over and since he was no longer suitable he lost the only purpose he thought he had for himself. It wouldn&#39;t make sense for the remains of the concious to be speaking when oro could easily just supress that person.

DeluxSkillz
Wed, 01-07-2004, 05:49 AM
i went back and read it a couple of times and it seems logical what you say but how did he get sick, this ep is really kind of weird and hard to understand i hope kishimoto further explains in upcoming chapters, oh and if he&#39;s sick how is he gonna get sasuke is he gonna go seal level two and do a suicide attack on naruto&#39;s team and escape with sasuke

itachi_
Wed, 01-07-2004, 06:00 AM
I don&#39;t think that Sasuke&#39;s reason of living will end so fast, he won&#39;t die.. if i got to be honest i think that sasuke will kill itachi in the end, though this is just speculations, but it&#39;s reasonable.

Hao
Wed, 01-07-2004, 07:40 AM
Just to see the most popular opinion about this.

In my opinion Sasuke is too important character to be &quot;wasted&quot; as Orochimaru&#39;s body .. thus I think Naruto will be able to get him back. (although Sasuke going with the sound doesn&#39;t exclude him from being one of the main characters).

DeluxSkillz
Wed, 01-07-2004, 08:00 AM
if Kishimoto wanted us to believe the pages where he drew Sasuke with the big snake then Sasuke will join Orichimaru and it makes perfect sense why Sasuke will learn how to summon the snake because we just learned in chapter 199 that Orichimaru can&#39;t change body for a couple of years thus giving him the time to perfect Sasuke&#39;s body so he can enter it

Raven
Wed, 01-07-2004, 08:05 AM
I don&#39;t think they&#39;ll get him back right now on this particular mission.... Sasuke and the sound have been implemented in the story too much to have it all end now.

Insomniac
Wed, 01-07-2004, 08:06 AM
Orochimaru has several years before he can transfer bodies again, this time can be used to train Sasuke, therefore not wasting a character.

Raven
Wed, 01-07-2004, 08:08 AM
I must say I&#39;ll be disappointed to no longer see Oro in his original regular form.... he just looks so damn cool all the time, I&#39;ll miss it.

Insomniac
Wed, 01-07-2004, 08:10 AM
he&#39;ll look exactly the same

Orochimaru has the ability to change his face, remember when he fought the 3rd? he was in the body of a 9 year old or something, he&#39;ll still be the same Orochimaru

DeluxSkillz
Wed, 01-07-2004, 08:12 AM
yeah orichimaru is cool every now and then I wish they just hurried up and showed more of his abbilities it&#39;s kind of tiresome to keep waiting for a good battle cuz ever since the hokage and orichimaru fight I haven&#39;t really been excited that much, Neji&#39;s fight was dissapointing and I guess only naruto&#39;s rasengan and Itachi have left an good impression

Insomniac
Wed, 01-07-2004, 08:16 AM
Narutos fights arent ever the best ones, Kabuto vs Tsunade was pretty cool

anyway back to the topic, as i said they fail to mission or this whole arc was a waste of time.
ah ooh i&#39;m a jounin http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/happy.gif

Chi Chi
Wed, 01-07-2004, 08:28 AM
Bringing him back isn&#39;t good for the story but I&#39;m sure we&#39;ll see some awesome fights.

Strigeln
Wed, 01-07-2004, 09:06 AM
They&#39;ll bring him back otherwise Naruto has to go back on his words...

but maybe he will stay and be trained Oro and then when he is stronger he will call for naruto and they will deafeat Oro togheter and then both return to Leaf...

primalspas
Wed, 01-07-2004, 09:14 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DeluxSkillz @ Jan 7 2004, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i went back and read it a couple of times and it seems logical what you say but how did he get sick, this ep is really kind of weird and hard to understand i hope kishimoto further explains in upcoming chapters, oh and if he&#39;s sick how is he gonna get sasuke is he gonna go seal level two and do a suicide attack on naruto&#39;s team and escape with sasuke </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
maybe him escaping and helping sasuke isn&#39;t going to happen or maybe he his not sick at all we will find out in the couple of chapters, i mean only kishimoto and his assistants really know where the manga is going.

Legendary Nin
Wed, 01-07-2004, 09:15 AM
I think there beat this time.Even if they can defeat the remaining 2,there is still Sasuke.And what Sasuke does it beyond there control,and if a fight were to break out.They would be too tired and weak to survive,so I can&#39;t see them bringing him back.

Uzumaki Naruto
Wed, 01-07-2004, 09:38 AM
i say that they will get him back, even if they use the thing forgot wuts its called starts with ak though but anyways i think that kiba nd shikamaru will take care of the remainding sound nins and leave the k dude for naruto and then we sit back and watch naruto release his kyubi chakra on him

Strider
Wed, 01-07-2004, 10:04 AM
While I believe we shall see the Leaf put a good fight, for them being Genin and all .. I also feel that the mission will all-in-all be a failure.

Kimimaro, if I recall his name correctly, is prepared to retrieve Sasuke. He will most likely fight Naruto. And, if that Earth (&quot;Gaia&quot;) seal is as dangerous as it sounds .. our demon-fox child has a brutal fight coming up ..

Only if Lee was back. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Ninja vanish.

itachi_
Wed, 01-07-2004, 10:31 AM
They will get him back... sometime... but not in that forest were they are now... maybe at orochimaru&#39;s place...

Harageki
Wed, 01-07-2004, 12:20 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Strider @ Jan 7 2004, 09:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Only if Lee was back. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Ninja vanish. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
He woulda been an awesome addition to the team...its just that annoying injury.

Insomniac
Wed, 01-07-2004, 12:21 PM
even if they beat the 2 remaining sound nins, Kimimaro will beat them and leave with Sasuke. its bound to happen

uzumaki_clan
Wed, 01-07-2004, 12:27 PM
Sasuke&#39;s future is death nothing more

Harageki
Wed, 01-07-2004, 12:33 PM
This Kimimaro...how do we know hes really that good? how would he fare against Naruto in ninetails mode - would be interesting.

itachi_
Wed, 01-07-2004, 12:36 PM
Who&#39;s Kimimaro the guy with his eyes covered with bandage? the guy who&#39;s laying in the bed with kabuto in the same room?

sexy_no_jutsu
Wed, 01-07-2004, 01:42 PM
well, sasuke won&#39;t be saved fom the sound nins, because if they release the barrier before sasuke gets out of his coma, the &quot;side effect of death&quot; the ritual of gaining lvl 2 curse seal, would become active again and kill sasuke.

or he could totally go berserk, but something would happen at least. So the most obvious storyline would be hime getting out of his coma on his own. can have sasuke dieing http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

Nautek
Thu, 01-08-2004, 02:18 AM
I really hope Naruto and co will bring the little brat back. But it will be tough. But so far Naruto haven&#39;t took back his words so I trust him in this one too http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

Queen_Tsunade
Thu, 01-08-2004, 07:30 AM
I can see them putting all they&#39;ve got into WINNING the battle with the Sounds, but only to have Sasuke tell them to go home and mind their own business after he wakes up. Naruto will be crushed and give some great speech about friendship or whatever and then Kabuto will show up, pull some dirty trick to blind everyone and run off with Sasuke while Naruto crouches on the ground in tears. He will swear that he will become stronger before his next battle with Sasuke. Soon after, the remaining members of Naruto&#39;s group will be picked up by Kakashi and taken back to the village where they will wallow in shame.

After a week or so, it is revealed that Lee&#39;s surgury is a success&#33;&#33;&#33; Everyone&#39;s favorite magnificent green beast rises again&#33;&#33;&#33; With his super speed, Lee rips out Sasuke&#39;s eyes (one of which he will keep for himself- the other one goes to Sakura, of course) and learns Naruto&#39;s Harem no Jutsu. With this ultimate attack, Lee beats Oro into dust. The series ends with a shot of Lee and Sakura riding off into the sunset on a big white horse. The power of youth&#33;

Insomniac
Thu, 01-08-2004, 07:50 AM
Kabutos not showing up, if anyone it&#39;ll be Kimimaro

Strider
Thu, 01-08-2004, 11:55 AM
I had something all thought of to say in regards to these matters, and in all seriousness .. Queen Tsunade`s story threw me all off. Hah. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

I like that ending. I`ll stick with that.

Ninja vanish.

Insomniac
Thu, 01-08-2004, 01:05 PM
i assume Kimimaro will come to take Sasuke away then try to kill him only to be killed and Sasuke will make his way to Orochimaru

Raven
Thu, 01-08-2004, 01:08 PM
It&#39;s pretty obvious the person on the tape and the person lying on the bed are two different people. On page 18 we see the person on the bed sit up, but we don&#39;t see his face, and he appears to have a mohawk or something. So in other words, the guy on the tape (the one who looks like Naruto) who Oro possesses is not Kimimaro.

But in that case, who is the Naruto look-alike? He must just be some random guy who won the tournament.

KakashiSensei
Thu, 01-08-2004, 01:26 PM
3 pages is too much to read at once so i&#39;ll post this not knowing if it was mentioned by Sexy_no_justu yet. What if they wake up Sasuke b4 his Incubation period is over?? He could die right?? Thats why they locked him in a bucket to keep him in a coma with the seals so the Cursed seal could reach level 2 and not kill him. Another this SNJ said was he could also just go nuts and berzerk and not have control over himself. Thats NUTS

Insomniac
Thu, 01-08-2004, 01:42 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>and he appears to have a mohawk or something. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

its not a mohawk its more like one of sound 4&#39;s hair mixed with Orochimarus but its clearly not the same guy as in the video


ALTHOUGH, you have to remember that no matter whose body Orochimaru takes over he&#39;ll look the same, which was illustrated when he fought the 3rd, he was in a completely different body but he changed his appearance to make himself look like he did when he was in his original body

he shouldnt look any different since he took over that body as he did before

Raven
Thu, 01-08-2004, 01:46 PM
I never really got that whole &#39;female Oro&#39; part of the hokage battle. The whole time I was sitting there going &#39;huh?&#39;.

I wonder when he took over that person, whoever it was.

Insomniac
Thu, 01-08-2004, 01:51 PM
wasnt it some 9 year old?
or something, very strong body for that age
still its a good ability because Orochimaru will always stay the way he was but never die from old age

kaigan
Fri, 01-09-2004, 02:03 AM
DEATH&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; He looks so f***ing cocky in up coming episode.

Jman
Fri, 01-09-2004, 02:29 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Queen_Tsunade @ Jan 8 2004, 06:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I can see them putting all they&#39;ve got into WINNING the battle with the Sounds, but only to have Sasuke tell them to go home and mind their own business after he wakes up. Naruto will be crushed and give some great speech about friendship or whatever and then Kabuto will show up, pull some dirty trick to blind everyone and run off with Sasuke while Naruto crouches on the ground in tears. He will swear that he will become stronger before his next battle with Sasuke. Soon after, the remaining members of Naruto&#39;s group will be picked up by Kakashi and taken back to the village where they will wallow in shame.

After a week or so, it is revealed that Lee&#39;s surgury is a success&#33;&#33;&#33; Everyone&#39;s favorite magnificent green beast rises again&#33;&#33;&#33; With his super speed, Lee rips out Sasuke&#39;s eyes (one of which he will keep for himself- the other one goes to Sakura, of course) and learns Naruto&#39;s Harem no Jutsu. With this ultimate attack, Lee beats Oro into dust. The series ends with a shot of Lee and Sakura riding off into the sunset on a big white horse. The power of youth&#33; </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif I wish it would go that way you know the part about Lee making a return and kicking ass. Although I&#39;d like for Sasuke to have his ass handed to him by Itachi. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif



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Mut
Fri, 01-09-2004, 03:24 AM
i think i said this before, but i&#39;ll say it again anyway. the leaf team beats the sound four. naruto is the only one who hasn&#39;t fought anyone yet. sasuke comes out of his basket and they have a talk but naruto fails to convince sasuke. so naruto is like &quot;i&#39;ll just use my kage bunshin to defeat you and bring you back&quot; so they&#39;re about to fight, but then kimimaro jumps in and fights naruto instead so sasuke can go to orochimaru. naruto eventually wins (somehow) and the story goes on.

p3psi
Fri, 01-09-2004, 03:34 AM
naruto made that promise, im pretty sure he will get him back.

also, the fact that the writers made oro prematurely switch bodies, and stateded the fact that he cant transfer in a few years.

so either sasuke meets oro, and oro trains him for a year or so, or naruto captures sasuke and return him, but sasuke quickly adventures out on his own to search for his brother.

Mut
Fri, 01-09-2004, 03:59 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (p3psi @ Jan 9 2004, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> naruto made that promise, im pretty sure he will get him back.

also, the fact that the writers made oro prematurely switch bodies, and stateded the fact that he cant transfer in a few years. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
if naruto was suppose to brings back sasuke, then sasuke taking the pill for the lvl 2 ability and the sound 4 bringing him to orochimaru would&#39;ve been pointless.

i don&#39;t think orochimaru has to switch bodies immediately, i think he can wait longer til sasuke&#39;s body is &quot;ready.&quot;

Insomniac
Fri, 01-09-2004, 04:15 AM
Orochimaru cant switch for another few years

thats what Kabuto said
he doesnt need to take over Sasukes body, just train him for till its his time to take him over

p3psi
Fri, 01-09-2004, 04:20 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dazzz @ Jan 9 2004, 02:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (p3psi &#064; Jan 9 2004, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> naruto made that promise, im pretty sure he will get him back.

also, the fact that the writers made oro prematurely switch bodies, and stateded the fact that he cant transfer in a few years. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
if naruto was suppose to brings back sasuke, then sasuke taking the pill for the lvl 2 ability and the sound 4 bringing him to orochimaru would&#39;ve been pointless.

i don&#39;t think orochimaru has to switch bodies immediately, i think he can wait longer til sasuke&#39;s body is &quot;ready.&quot; </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
how would that have been pointless?

The leaf team&#39;s mission was to get him back.
that was thier point.

Sasuke still took the pill, and now is level two.
Plans change, plot change.

Well, since the 3rd took oro&#39;s arm, oro&#39;s invasion of leaf was pointless using your logic, since he wasnt able to take over village like the 4 sounds arnt able to take back sasuke, and yet that &quot;pointless event&quot; still happened.

Insomniac
Fri, 01-09-2004, 04:26 AM
um i dont know if you missed it but Orochimaru did what he set out to do

he killed the 3rd, that was the WHOLE reason for invasion.

so he did achieve something


Sasuke cannot go back now, there is no point in going back as he will just leave again, nothing has changed with Sasuke. even IF Naruto and crew deal with the sound nin, Kimimaro will show up and leave with Sasuke

Mut
Fri, 01-09-2004, 08:15 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (p3psi &#064; Jan 9 2004, 03:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> how would that have been pointless?

The leaf team&#39;s mission was to get him back.
that was thier point.

Sasuke still took the pill, and now is level two.
Plans change, plot change.

Well, since the 3rd took oro&#39;s arm, oro&#39;s invasion of leaf was pointless using your logic, since he wasnt able to take over village like the 4 sounds arnt able to take back sasuke, and yet that &quot;pointless event&quot; still happened. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
it is absolutely pointless cuz the whole point of sasuke getting the cursed seal is to get more power from orochimaru isn&#39;t it? so now since he is brought back, are they gonna have the whole &quot;i&#39;m leavin leaf to seek orochimaru so naruto and his gang can bring me back again&quot; deal? i mean, if they&#39;re not gonna do that then what was the point of hyping up all of that curse seal stuff and orochimaru saying that sasuke will seek him for power? it just turns it into a cycle of retardedness.

btw...the point of invading leaf was to kill the 3rd which would crumble the leaf. a country without a president or rather a king (that&#39;s how i see it) is just a country with headless chickens...he accomplished it even though there were severe consequences.

Jiraya
Fri, 01-09-2004, 08:18 AM
now that oro has transferred and we have some time, i think kimimaro will own leaf&#39;s team, and sasuke will get to oro&#39;s place .
but next expedition will be leaf&#39;s team vocroty .... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Stoopider
Fri, 01-09-2004, 08:29 AM
I doubt Sasuke would return, after even all the effort by the leaf team (Which I believe that they(th leaf&#39;s) still would be able to kick all of the sound&#39;s azz). However, Sasuke would still runaway after that. He&#39;ll probably say a few words to Naruto like &quot;Don&#39;t worry, Everything is in hand&quot;.

THen maybe there would be a jump in the timeline, maybe 5 years or so, when finally Oro wants to take over Sasuke&#39;s body, Sasuke would have learned enough from Oro and finally kills Oro and the rest of the Sound clan?

Jiraya
Fri, 01-09-2004, 09:06 AM
i suppose the end of the manga will be a great fight between sasuke and naruto http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sleep.gif
until then, they&#39;ll both train a similar lvl http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/happy.gif