Jounin Or ANBU

[Assertn]

jounin is a rank
anbu is a class

therefore, you cant really compare them. an anbu is simply a specialized jounin

[villin]

I always thought that ANBU were chuunin and special jounin. It has been stated in the anime that a jounin has authority over an ANBU and therefore they would be lesser than a jounin. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif

[Hotsuma]

I don't think it's really necassary to compare.

The anbu isn't even on the hierarchy for ranks.

[Aegeon]

I think that after you have been a joinin for a few years you will eventually become a part of an ANBU team unless you are a super genius. After a while of the ANBU stuff though you might retire and just do special missions and teach. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif

[villin]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aegeon @ Jan 2 2004, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think that after you have been a joinin for a few years you will eventually become a part of an ANBU team unless you are a super genius. After a while of the ANBU stuff though you might retire and just do special missions and teach. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
What about Kakashi then? He is a jounin and still an active ninja. Also, when Kabuto went to the hospital to capture/kill Sasgay, Kakashi said that the ANBU Kabuto killed were prepared by himself. This leads me to think that ANBU are at a lower level than jounins.

[itachi_]

Which one is the strongest ANBU or Jounin?, some of you may say ANBU ... because it says that after Jounin you become a ANBU, but kabuto picked out like 5-10 ANBU in episode 51, and latley outside the chuunin exam... And he&#39;s a jounin, i think that gai, kakashi, and the rest are stronger then ANBU, what do you think?

[Insomniac]

Kabutos a genin.

[Hyuga Koji]

I&#39;d imagine that Jounin would be higher in rank that ANBU since they can boss them around and they don&#39;t seem to be getting knocked off like flies.

I think that being an ANBU isn&#39;t that big but being a captain of it is the big deal Kakashi and Itachi were both ANBU captains and they certainly don&#39;t have to worry about being dropped.

ANBU are sort of like the special hit squads while the jounin are like the higher-ups who run em as ANBU seem to be sent out all the time while Jounin are only sent out on really important things whenever they&#39;re not training new genins.

[Legendary Nin]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hyuga Koji @ Jan 2 2004, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> So techiniclly,the Anbu are a lot higher I&#39;d imagine that Jounin would be higher in rank that ANBU since they can boss them around and they don&#39;t seem to be getting knocked off like flies.

I think that being an ANBU isn&#39;t that big but being a captain of it is the big deal Kakashi and Itachi were both ANBU captains and they certainly don&#39;t have to worry about being dropped.

ANBU are sort of like the special hit squads while the jounin are like the higher-ups who run em as ANBU seem to be sent out all the time while Jounin are only sent out on really important things whenever they&#39;re not training new genins. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I can prove you wrong,actually,very wrong.

http://www.narutoguide.com/ninja_rankguide.htm#anbucaptain ('http://www.narutoguide.com/ninja_rankguide.htm#anbucaptain')

As you can see,you have jounins,special jounins,then the Anbu whcih sits right below the sage level.So techniclly the Anbu are a lot higher up.The reason why Kabuto killed them so easy are for 2 reasons
1.He is the son of Leafs best doctor
2.He was trained by Orochimaru and is he right hand man.He expect him to be sissy,Orochimaru is a sage.

[sexy_no_jutsu]

ANBU members are jounins, specially trained for missions and stuff. kakashi is a special Jounin. an elite, just like gai, asuma, karenai, Ebisu ect.

[Insomniac]

ANBU is a side branch of jounin basically, thats the way i&#39;ve always seen it

Kabuto is a genin (dont forget that&#33; he never passed his chuunin exam due to forfieting 3-4 times) who can take down ANBU pretty easily - doesnt mean everyone can.

ANBU so far have been beaten up by alot of people so thats why we&#39;re looking at them like lower then jounin skill level but why would a village send out crappy nins to take on S class criminals?

Simply ANBU have been used as sacraficial measuring sticks so far

[Nautek]

Yes we haven&#39;t seen any real powerfull ANBU. But it seems to be lot&#39;s of ANBU&#39;s but fewer Jounins.

[jing]

anbu=jounin, u cannot become an anbu unless ur a jounin, technically anbu is higher, but kakashi and the rest of the jounins prove they are more usefull.

[Demon Brother]

How do u know that u have to become Jounin before becoming ANBU?

[jing]

its been said in the story.
www.narutoguide.com
im too lazy to explain when.
edit: here u go http://www.narutoguide.com/ninja_rankguide.htm ('http://www.narutoguide.com/ninja_rankguide.htm')

[Aegeon]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (villin @ Jan 2 2004, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aegeon &#064; Jan 2 2004, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think that after you have been a joinin for a few years you will eventually become a part of an ANBU team unless you are a super genius. After a while of the ANBU stuff though you might retire and just do special missions and teach. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
What about Kakashi then? He is a jounin and still an active ninja. Also, when Kabuto went to the hospital to capture/kill Sasgay, Kakashi said that the ANBU Kabuto killed were prepared by himself. This leads me to think that ANBU are at a lower level than jounins. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Kakashi would be one of my examples. Gai I am guessing would fall into that category also. I mean Kakashi was a member of ANBU team some time in the past but he has moved past that and is now a teacher and he does some really special stuff on the side.

[Insomniac]

the jounins we know of at the moment are all high levels jounins - we havent heard from the weak ones.

when the ANBU met with Anko she told them what to do if you remember - this leads me to believe that the specialised jounins are higher up then the average ANBU but its just like another jounin telling another jounin

the ANBU are there to protect so they&#39;re assigned orders by people of higher ranks and specialist jounins are higher up

ANBU = Jounins though

and just like to say it again, Kabutos a genin

[Dthncr8]

totally true hotsuma its all just names... too troublesome to think about

[Hotsuma]

To add on for Kabuto. He&#39;s the most powerful Genin out there. Yes, more powerful than Naruto.

[itachi_]

I thought kabuto was a jounin...&#33;&#33;&#33;
you think he&#39;s a genin just because he have failed 7 times in the chuunin exam..
But that&#39;s the purpose, he actually have been spying ever sinse then...
__________________________________________________ _____________

KABUTO IS A JOUNIN&#33;

[Insomniac]

its the same reason as why people want Naruto to become a chuunin

its nothing more then a rank in the village
Kabuto never got past genin in ranking, so he remains a genin - no matter his strength.
these ranks determine what missions they go on, thats all it does, Kabuto doesnt deal with missions in the same way as the leaf nin do so for his purpose he doesnt NEED to be a jounin or a chuunin

[Legendary Nin]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (villin @ Jan 3 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aegeon &#064; Jan 2 2004, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think that after you have been a joinin for a few years you will eventually become a part of an ANBU team unless you are a super genius. After a while of the ANBU stuff though you might retire and just do special missions and teach. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
What about Kakashi then? He is a jounin and still an active ninja. Also, when Kabuto went to the hospital to capture/kill Sasgay, Kakashi said that the ANBU Kabuto killed were prepared by himself. This leads me to think that ANBU are at a lower level than jounins. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
How does that make them a lower level.Kakashi could have just wanted to specially select the best to protect Sasuke instead of random Anbu members being sent out.That doesn&#39;t imply they are lower,they weren&#39;t taking orders from Kakashi,there orders came from the Hokage.

[Assertn]

but he never in his life passed the chuunin exam.....even though he may have failed on purpose, it doesnt change the fact that he&#39;s still a genin. Unless maybe he&#39;s classified jounin in the sound village........and was only known as a genin in leaf.......hmmmmm

[itachi_]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AssertnFailure &#064; Jan 3 2004, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> but he never in his life passed the chuunin exam.....even though he may have failed on purpose, it doesnt change the fact that he&#39;s still a genin. Unless maybe he&#39;s classified jounin in the sound village........and was only known as a genin in leaf.......hmmmmm </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
No, you&#39;re wrong... He&#39;s a jounin... you can qualify from a genin to a jounin directly...


In a matter of fact... he&#39;s a special jounin, medical...

[Hotsuma]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Jan 3 2004, 01:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AssertnFailure &#064; Jan 3 2004, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> but he never in his life passed the chuunin exam.....even though he may have failed on purpose, it doesnt change the fact that he&#39;s still a genin.* Unless maybe he&#39;s classified jounin in the sound village........and was only known as a genin in leaf.......hmmmmm </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
No, you&#39;re wrong... He&#39;s a jounin... you can qualify from a genin to a jounin directly...


In a matter of fact... he&#39;s a special jounin, medical... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
What basis do you have? Really, what? You have nothing.

You&#39;re an idiot. Kabuto is a GENIN IN STATUS. Yes, he might have Jounin and above strength and leadership, but according to the numbers, he&#39;s still a genin.

Also, where did you hear you can qualify from Genin to Jounin?

[itachi_]

Then you said it yourself... why do you call him a genin, just because it says so on a paper... He is a jounin in the sound, and he is orochimaru&#39;s &quot;right-hand&quot;.. so he cannot be a genin..

[Hotsuma]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Jan 3 2004, 01:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Then you said it yourself... why do you call him a genin, just because it says so on a paper... He is a jounin in the sound, and he is orochimaru&#39;s &quot;right-hand&quot;.. so he cannot be a genin.. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Actually, it&#39;s perfectly ok to have a Genin as a right hand. Jounin is merely a rank. A show.

[hiddenpookie]

uhhhh...w/e they both kika a**

[Jiraiy4]

This is what i think. ANBU and Special Jounin are da same rank. So basically you go from academy-genin-chuunin-jounin...and when you&#39;re a jounin going on to the next level...i believe you can choose either to be a special jounin or ANBU. For instance...those who choose to be a special jounin are probably the ones who dont wanna live a gory life. Cuz ANBU is assigned to kill, assassinate, etc. and special jounins rather teach genins or just do simple missions. So IMO special jounin and ANBU are the same rank (rank above the ordinary jounin level) but juss assigned with different things.

Another example...FBI and CIA.
FBI= special jounin
CIA=ANBU

they&#39;re both considered to be top, but CIA deals with bigger problems. And dere can be stronger cops in the FBI den in the CIA, but just chose not to join the CIA..you know wat im sayin? Kakashi was ANBU, but i bet he resigned cuz it was such a hassle.

[NarutoOtaku]

Although Kabuto is an official Genin... his level is not far off Kakashi&#39;s.
And the subject between ANBU and Jounin. Basically... the ninja&#39;s in the ANBU team are Jounin... or at least Jounin level. Whoever is stronger really depends on the ninja.

[villin]

Kabuto is a gennin of the hidden leaf. He may have a higher rank in the sound village but it isn&#39;t specified.