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Chi Chi
Sun, 12-28-2003, 02:28 AM
Everyone in the finals is already at the Chuunin Strength level. Most of them are already above average Chuunin strength but they need more mission experience to learn skills like Shikimaru has.

jing
Sun, 12-28-2003, 06:02 AM
I think the title is too long to fit in the main page good thing... shikamaru showed responsibility and not fight to death like Naruto did.

edit: yes im right, its too short to spoil anything.
itachi_: please becarefull next time because when people go to http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/index.php?act=idx ('http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/index.php?act=idx') they can see the title, and non manga readers would get spoiled.

itachi_
Sun, 12-28-2003, 06:08 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jing @ Dec 28 2003, 05:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think the title is too long to fit in the main page good thing... shikamaru showed responsibility and not fight to death like Naruto did.

edit: yes im right, its too short to spoil anything.
itachi_: please becarefull next time because when people go to http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/index.php?act=idx ('http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/index.php?act=idx') they can see the title, and non manga readers would get spoiled. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
This is open discussion, no spoiler rules..

itachi_
Sun, 12-28-2003, 07:42 AM
I think that these are already at chuunin level..
Neji
Sasuke
Shikamaru

I want those to become chuunins but why is only shikamaru become a chuunin?

Legendary Nin
Sun, 12-28-2003, 07:44 AM
When the thread was posted in last,the title shows up in the index.For some reason anime only viewers seem to have a grudge againist manga readers and people who come to the open discussion,don&#39;t know why.To them we are evil,and only cause trouble for them and no one else.So if they see anything that spoils,your ass is being reported even before you can edit it,by yours truly,the anime viewer with the grudge that holds no basis.

Uzumaki Kakashi
Sun, 12-28-2003, 08:30 AM
shikamaru is the opnly one that showed leadership qualities by stopping the fight because he knew he would lose.

neji, sasuke, and naruto continue to fight and maybe even to the death. they are strong and level wise stronger then genin but not chuunin leadership material

itachi_
Sun, 12-28-2003, 08:34 AM
But why do they want to become chuunin&#39;s if they already know that they are stronger than shikamaru and probably the most chuunin&#39;s no doubt. Is it really leadership to say &quot;i loose it&#39;s to troublesome to continue&quot; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif

Kyubi Unleashed
Sun, 12-28-2003, 08:56 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Dec 28 2003, 07:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> But why do they want to become chuunin&#39;s if they already know that they are stronger than shikamaru and probably the most chuunin&#39;s no doubt. Is it really leadership to say &quot;i loose it&#39;s to troublesome to continue&quot; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif Maybe? I dunno.

Insomniac
Sun, 12-28-2003, 09:56 AM
its been discussed
go look up the other 10 threads http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

Legendary Nin
Sun, 12-28-2003, 10:07 AM
I assume you took a trip to the manga section to find this out,another trip has the answer.
In a battle,as a Chuunin you are a squad leader.Naruto or Neiji would keep fighting,endangering the other ninjas,same with Naruto.Sometimes its more impportant to come back alive than dead.Shikamaru realized he couldn&#39;t win,so if he was in battle,he would create a situation giving them enough time to escape.Remember the Zabuza fight and how Kakashi said leave now and forget about me,he was willing to put his life before his squads.That&#39;s what a Chuunin needs to have,Shikamaru has that.You need to know when to fight and when to run,the rest don&#39;t understand running when your beat.

itachi_
Sun, 12-28-2003, 10:13 AM
Then chuunin is a genin with some leadership experience... because compare the skill between neji, sasuke, kyubi naruto, gaara with shikamaru, they are all better than him. maybe they don&#39;t have that leadership that&#39;s requiered but they are better fighters and have better stamina then him. so what&#39;s the point with the chuunin thing? a leadership thing... geez..&#33; I thought to become a chuunin you must surpass the genin in skillz, like jutsus and such, but it&#39;s all about this damn leadership thing... that really sux

Insomniac
Sun, 12-28-2003, 10:16 AM
it isnt about how strong you are.

Legendary Nin
Sun, 12-28-2003, 10:16 AM
Shikamaru feels there is no reason to fight in the exam,but he is strong.When he becomes the squad leader of the Genins,he shows it.Strategy can be more powerful than sheer power,now if you want to see both in one,see Itachi..lol.

Uzumaki Kakashi
Sun, 12-28-2003, 10:25 AM
shikamaru thniks but is also strong with his jutsu and how he uses it to his advantage. i dont know if u read the manga but start if dont. u will see what thyese people mean.

which would u have a as a leader someone who will check the risks and plan accordingly or jump in and HOPE that u dont kill everyone.

Hotsuma
Sun, 12-28-2003, 10:37 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Dec 28 2003, 10:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Then chuunin is a genin with some leadership experience... because compare the skill between neji, sasuke, kyubi naruto, gaara with shikamaru, they are all better than him. maybe they don&#39;t have that leadership that&#39;s requiered but they are better fighters and have better stamina then him. so what&#39;s the point with the chuunin thing? a leadership thing... geez..&#33; I thought to become a chuunin you must surpass the genin in skillz, like jutsus and such, but it&#39;s all about this damn leadership thing... that really sux </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Becoming a Chuunin has almost nothing to do with your power and stamina. You can be a Genin and still be stronger than a Chuunin. Becoming a Chuunin is more about leadership and good judgement over strength.

Nine Tailed Demon
Sun, 12-28-2003, 11:16 AM
Maybe you should edit the title since it&#39;s a spoiler.....

Insomniac
Sun, 12-28-2003, 11:36 AM
i suggest you read the manga again, it says exactly why shika was the only one to become chuunin

DemonRyu
Sun, 12-28-2003, 01:03 PM
They already tested the genins skill in the preliminaries so the finals are just to see their leadership .

DemonRyu
Mon, 12-29-2003, 08:42 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hotsuma @ Dec 28 2003, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Becoming a Chuunin has almost nothing to do with your power and stamina. You can be a Genin and still be stronger than a Chuunin. Becoming a Chuunin is more about leadership and good judgement over strength. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Actully if you think about it The second exam and prelimnary machtes already tested there power and stamina.

umdiddly
Mon, 12-29-2003, 09:08 AM
hmm... i was wondering this, whats with the vest?? .. i mean, i dont remember reading about it in much detail in the manga... is it just assumed that the vest is like a forehead protector except chuunin-ized?? well then, whats the jounin one? .. a gai sensai leotard?&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif
... not that i dont like the vest... the vest rocks... i wish i was that vest...

itachi_
Mon, 12-29-2003, 11:19 AM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Dec 28 2003, 10:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i suggest you read the manga again, it says exactly why shika was the only one to become chuunin </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I haven&#39;t read the manga, i just saw the first picture in 199 and he had a chuunin/jounin gear/clothes..

Legato 2057
Mon, 12-29-2003, 12:55 PM
Then don&#39;t you think it might be a good idea to read the manga, before you start asking questions about it?

Edit: figure I might as well post my response to this thread here too:

Not really. While I respect Lee&#39;s determination, he definitely isn&#39;t my favorite character. Jiraiya is just great comic relief. Neiji is just filled with teenage angst against his family, not a very apepaling character trait IMO.

What makes Shikamaru so special compared to everyone else is that he really isn&#39;t all that special.

He&#39;s probably weaker than most of the other genins, but what he can do is take control of a situation, using only the basest of techniques. Being able to take control of a situation is the most important quality a leader can have, and he doesn&#39;t need insane power to do it either.

Another important aspect of being a leader is to know your strengths and weaknesses. Shikamaru could very well have one that fight with Temari. But in doing so, he would have had to fight even stronger opponents with next to no chakra.

During the Temari fight, he was clearly overpowered, but he was able to show another important character trait of leader: to stay calm.

Shikamaru&#39;s ability to control a situation, his knowledge of his own strength and weaknesses (and his teammates as shown before they chase after Sasuke) and his ability to stay calm in dire circumstances, all make him the ideal candidate for a chounin.

That&#39;s my .02&#036; on Shikamaru at least

spectre270
Tue, 12-30-2003, 02:50 AM
<span style='color:blue'>Being a leader isn&#39;t about power it&#39;s about making the right choice and strategies concerning a group and he was the best leader.</span> http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_plasmawhore.gif

chronic
Tue, 12-30-2003, 10:35 AM
i can understand why shika was the only chunnin. let me explain. well first of all he is a super genius who is constantly thinking of ways to beat his opponent. also he knows his own limits, and that is pretty important. unlike naruto, who even though is the strongest out of all the gennin (imo) he just goes head on, not caring if he is badly hurt or not, even with or without chakara in him. seriously if naruto didn&#39;t have kyubi in him, he&#39;d be dead ages ago. (probably in the 1st exam. im skipping haku because i don&#39;t think haku would have killed him... maybe im wrong).

the thing that im confused wit is why shino didn&#39;t get a chunnin title http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif . i mean (for those manga readers out there), he&#39;s pretty stong and pretty smart. i mean even if ur not a manga reader, u can see by the match he was in at the prelims. i mean, he got those bugs of his on the opponent&#39;s hands without anyone realizing. well thats all from me http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

skyro
Tue, 12-30-2003, 12:23 PM
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chronic @ Dec 30 2003, 10:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> the thing that im confused wit is why shino didn&#39;t get a chunnin title http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif . i mean (for those manga readers out there), he&#39;s pretty stong and pretty smart. i mean even if ur not a manga reader, u can see by the match he was in at the prelims. i mean, he got those bugs of his on the opponent&#39;s hands without anyone realizing. well thats all from me http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
He didn&#39;t get the chuunin title because he had no match. First Kankuro gave up the first round and there was no second round because of the war outbreak. Shino&#39;s fight with Kankuro in the forest wasn&#39;t an official match as no one was even watching. I do think he would&#39;ve gotten promoted had either Kankuro not given up or the main matches had a chance to fully run its course though.

Assertn
Tue, 12-30-2003, 01:34 PM
i can understand how shikamaru was the only one picked, but i would be surprised if neji and shino dont become chuunin after the next exam. shino was definitely chuunin material, he just never had the chance to show it. neji seems very qualified too, especially after he changes his attitude.

hiddenpookie
Wed, 12-31-2003, 06:16 AM
he shows leadear ship and skills http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif