Gai should have saved lee...

[Guest]

Lee always makes me smile, charging in screaming a warcry, fire in his eyes ^^. He may be damn ugly for anime, but he sure is a cool char.

[SaSuKeRuLeS]

You got that damn right. He may not be all that great looking ok but he is great, hes strong hes always saying something bizzare(like when he said he didnt want to have to the next match at the exams and then he gets it and says he knew he would get it because he asked for the opposite) that made me smile cause hes a funny character and he shows you that hard work does pay off. Hes great, my favorite character a log Neji(even though a evil bitch sometimes) KIBA and NARUTO and SHINO.

[Neo32]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SaSuKeRuLeS @ Dec 21 2003, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeh i understand what you mean by the whole pride thing. but like over the years they have fought without him using his gates and it&#39;s sort of a equal thing between them. but hey its ok i could be wrong i just wanted to show that rock lee is really strong just never got to show it because he went up against such a tough opponent u know wat i mean he couldnt get through his fuckign sand. if he fought anyone else i dont know but i think he wouldve gotten a good chance of winning except nejis byukugan im not sure about that. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
hmmm? i think the wrong message got through lol... what i meant to say was that if Gai decides to open his gates he would be quite a bit stronger than kakashi... yeah i think it was plain bad luck rock lee got gaara... hopefully he can recover enough and become a ninja again,.... i believe what kept lee away from neji was his whirling spin or whatever.... cos it can probably deflect anything lee threw at him at normal speed...

[SaSuKeRuLeS]

Oh well im a little confused right now im tired but i know i meant to say that that gai would be a lil stronger than kakshi but he wouldnt dare use it against a fellow ninja unless needed. but anyways yes i said that somewhere else i think, but he was scared of neji cause neji could basically deflect everything if he wanted to against rock lee. same with gaara but rock lee didnt know. also if neji ever caught rock in a open momment and got at his tenketsus ..... well lets just say its not a good ending to that fight. does anyone else agree.(rock lee though i think had a good chance against anyone else someone reply to this suggestion)

[Neo32]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SaSuKeRuLeS @ Dec 21 2003, 01:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Oh well im a little confused right now im tired but i know i meant to say that that gai would be a lil stronger than kakshi but he wouldnt dare use it against a fellow ninja unless needed. but anyways yes i said that somewhere else i think, but he was scared of neji cause neji could basically deflect everything if he wanted to against rock lee. same with gaara but rock lee didnt know. also if neji ever caught rock in a open momment and got at his tenketsus ..... well lets just say its not a good ending to that fight. does anyone else agree.(rock lee though i think had a good chance against anyone else someone reply to this suggestion) </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
agreed... tired? where you from sasuke?

[**KibaKun**]

im from massachusets its just i just woke up.

[**KibaKun**]

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[**KibaKun**]

oh by the way kibakun is really the same person on the sasuke rules name sasuke is my freind this is my name

[Thermonuclear]

Seriously, the 5th gate opening seriously didn&#39;t do anything to the rest of Lee&#39;s body, only his arm/leg is insured cause of Gaara (that ash0le)

But who i hate even more is Gai, GAI SHOULD HAVE SAVED LEE MUCH EARLIER (before his arm/leg got caught in sand), UGHHHHH http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif


I THOUGHT YOU LOVED HIM GAI&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

i thought you loved him http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

[rEkKaShInObI]

dude, were on episode 63 now, post someting about episode 63.

[Thermonuclear]

Hmm something about episode 63... let me think... ahhh nothing happened http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif


Seriously im still super mad at GAI for not saving LEE http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

[Thermonuclear]

What if Naruto had to fight Gaara?

What if Sasuke had to fight Gaara?

What if Neji had to fight Gaara?



hahaha its just funny, i would of loved to see one of them get their ass whoped by Gaara instead of Lee http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

[Neo32]

um. if you paid more notice lee&#39;s arm muscles were so ripped he was dripping blood from his hands... you try moving in that state... i guess gai wanted to see if there was more that lee was capable of

[rEkKaShInObI]

the guy wanted gai to acknowledge him and accept what hes doing to protect his way of the nindo, so shit had to happen.

[Thermonuclear]

I guess if gai actualy saved lee, and lee just rested for a week and fully healed (im talking about if gaara didn&#39;t use the desert coffin on his arm/leg). Then Lee would train for 5 years and probably surpass the 3rd like nothing.

So i guess Kishomoto made Lee get injured so you wouldn&#39;t have a DBZ like show where Lee&gt;all (just like goku&gt; all) =/

Cause Lee was improving way too rapidly, i suppose.

[Chi Chi]

Do you think Lee would be happy if Gai saved him? He wanted to win, he didn&#39;t care about getting injured.

[Mgslee]

lol thermo you took my advice (Lee. from B.net)

Lee got taken out because he wasnt popular at the time and something interesting needed to happen. In fact I remember alot of people hated him prior to the preliminary fights...

[Insomniac]

most people only started liking Lee during the fight

[Thermonuclear]

I think Lee would be very happy if Gai saved him and then a week later after he is fully healed Gai tells Lee in the hospital, &quot;Ok, we will train for seven years strait. How about that Lee? I promise if you listen to me 100% you will surpass the 3rd in no time&#33;&quot;

Muahaha, LEE SUPREME

[KevKoN]

the whole lee garaa thing happened a bit differently in the manga but im not sure if it is spoiling or not so i just wont say anything.

[Neo32]

i frankly doubt lee could have surpassed the 3rd... after there have to be a couple of ninjutsu&#39;s or genjutsu&#39;s which can defeat even the strongest taijutsu...

[Thermonuclear]

Gai said Lee could if he believed in himself&#33;&#33;&#33;

Thats why Lee improved so rapidly

Besides when Lee opens gates he has enough chakra to move his body at high speeds mid-air, i still don&#39;t get why he &quot;can&#39;t use it for anything else&quot;

[Neo32]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thermonuclear @ Dec 21 2003, 04:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Gai said Lee could if he believed in himself&#33;&#33;&#33;

Thats why Lee improved so rapidly

Besides when Lee opens gates he has enough chakra to move his body at high speeds mid-air, i still don&#39;t get why he &quot;can&#39;t use it for anything else&quot; </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
but the opening of gates only improves chakra flow to the muscles of the body.. it does not allow for better extraction or molding to do high level jutsu&#39;s... and the opening of gates dramatically increases wear and tear on ones body http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif ... not a technique you would wanna try...

[DB_Hunter]

There isn&#39;t anything to say Kakashi can&#39;t open his gates.... all he did was ask Gai how many gates Lee could open.

[Moses The White]

Yeah... and I really like the way that he supports everyone so emphatically even though they are his potential enemies. He&#39;s a really nice guy. That&#39;s probably to compensate for his lack of looks. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_krider.gif

[Serpico]

I think it wouldve been lame if Gai saved him any sooner, cuz when Lee stands back up all bloody and crushed, thats when i knew he is the freakin man&#33;&#33;

[Neo32]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serpico @ Dec 21 2003, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think it wouldve been lame if Gai saved him any sooner, cuz when Lee stands back up all bloody and crushed, thats when i knew he is the freakin man&#33;&#33; </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
lol yes i have to agree... to stand up after that jutsu... i was like.. OMG&#33; hehe can&#39;t wait for 63... d/ling now...

[SeGee]

keep also in mind that I dont think that teachers are even allowed to make the call that Gai did. Its the examiner who stops the fights.

[Lys]

I&#39;m appalled that you people think Lee is un-good-looking. Is my taste in characters that messed up? It&#39;s true I thought he was a weirdo at first ... (as did almost everyone ... ) but I got over that when he saved Sakura (i&#39;m a loser fangirl, I know). I think Lee is adorable, eyebrows and all.

Anyway .. um ... concerning the topic. For all that I love Lee and am terribly distraught that he had to suffer at the sands (PUN&#33; laugh&#33;) of Gaara, I think it was fitting. Lee wanted to finish the fight on his own, I believe, and Gai agreed with that. It was ... honourable, or something. Right?

[Icingdeath]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SeGee &#064; Dec 21 2003, 05:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>keep also in mind that I dont think that teachers are even allowed to make the call that Gai did. Its the examiner who stops the fights.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Actualy I think teachers can stop the prelimary matches where their own students are involved...

&quot;Dont worry. If thinks look bad, I`ll stop the match.&quot;

-Sarutobi Asuma to Akimichi Choji

[DB_Hunter]

It was a most strategically incorrect thing to do... Rock Lee should have charmed his way past Gaara&#39;s shield, given him a bowl cut and then given him a thumbs up with his (and Gai&#39;s) trademark smile.

[boomorman]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I guess if gai actualy saved lee, and lee just rested for a week and fully healed (im talking about if gaara didn&#39;t use the desert coffin on his arm/leg). Then Lee would train for 5 years and probably surpass the 3rd like nothing.

So i guess Kishomoto made Lee get injured so you wouldn&#39;t have a DBZ like show where Lee&gt;all (just like goku&gt; all) =/

Cause Lee was improving way too rapidly, i suppose. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

They Want Naruto as their Goku not Lee. Goku pwned Neji in ep 62 it rocked when Naruto went ssj on him. Vegeta vs Goku&#39;s kaioken . No seriously you’re right tho. Lee was getting to strong to fast. I like lee and all, but with the way lee trains soon they would have had to rename the show Lee. So lee got hurt to slow down his progress.

[Thermonuclear]

Lee should have not opened any gates and just battled Gaara without the weights on.

Lee would say to Gaara, &quot;I can keep going for 87 more hours. Your free to give up at any time.&quot;

Gaara would lose to Lee unless he transformed into *SPOILER*.

But then if Gaara did do that, then the 3rd Hokage would have stopped the match and destroyed *SPOILER*.

Either way Lee would have not been injured http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

[DB_Hunter]

Thermonuclear I havn&#39;t read any of the manga for the eps but from what you have said it seems you are spoiling by saying your last statment... it&#39;s no point in not saying the name when you have practically given away what happens.

[DB_Hunter]

I don&#39;t think Lee was improving at a huge pace. Without the open gates, and considering he is a year older than the rookie genins, he was simply one of the better ones. The gate opening he can&#39;t keep doing on a regular basis, because he would damage himself and he would have to rest for *more than a week http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif * to recover from torn/ripped muscles and that would and even then when he did he would have to slowly work his way back up to his normal training pace, and his body would have weakened slightly due to not training during that time.

[Shino_i luv]

poor lee&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; but lee would have been mad at gai if he but in&#33; ....*sniffle* i feel bad 4 lee

[Beautiful Green Beast]

Well,I agree&#33; Gai should´ve saved him earlier..... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif

[RoMuLuu]

If Gai saved him earlier Lee had propably started whining about it, because Lee wanted to win, no matter what. And secondly, no-one knew that Gaaras sand attack would be that powerful. And I think that saving him after the sand attack was really better than nothing? After all... The other teachers didn&#39;t even try to save their pupils.

[Neo32]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DB_Hunter @ Dec 21 2003, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don&#39;t think Lee was improving at a huge pace. Without the open gates, and considering he is a year older than the rookie genins, he was simply one of the better ones. The gate opening he can&#39;t keep doing on a regular basis, because he would damage himself and he would have to rest for *more than a week http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif * to recover from torn/ripped muscles and that would and even then when he did he would have to slowly work his way back up to his normal training pace, and his body would have weakened slightly due to not training during that time. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Hmmm i don&#39;t agree DB darling... you see, Lee was already moving at incredible speeds with the leg weights ON. and with them OFF... well... all i saw was Gaara&#39;s ass getting whupped. The opening of the gates was probably just to help Lee drop the little brat faster... of course in the end it did more harm than good... i think that if lee just kept hitting at gaara with that armor on... in the end we would seen an extremely bruised gaara... lol...
Oh. we do have to give Gai credit... he is one of the warmest and most touching Jounins around.. (waves crashing in the backgroud for effect) yeah i agree with the Romulan

[Nautek]

Lee is a cool guy http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif my little brother bought ankle weights because he thought that he would move alot faster just like Lee lol.

[Nine Tailed Demon]

What&#39;s with all these Lee fans, LEE IS WEAK&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Moses The White]

Lee is strong, but weaker than most of the other guys for some very basic reasons:

He can&#39;t use ninja/illusionary techniques

Hand-to-Hand isn&#39;t good enough to win every battle

He has to KILL HIMSELF to open the gates

Once he does open the gates, if there are still enemies he&#39;s dead

I do like him, but he can&#39;t beat everyone out there by a long shot.

[Neo32]

yeah Lee&#39;s probably good for one on one fights where you wanna kill a ninjutsu specialist don&#39;t you think? imagine Lee vs Orochimaru.... he probably could kill the old geezer 3rd with just 1 gate... damn.... wonder what Gai is capable of... if Konoha decides to create a suicide squad and fills it up with people like Lee... amazing...

[SaSuKeRuLeS]

Actually thats something ive been meaning to say because you figuere rock lee is incredible, with the fith gate and everything you know wat i mean. well then his sensei gai is way above his level. The way Gai teaches him just goes to show you he has way more under his sleeves to teach Rock lee http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif . So ok Rock lee is really good but then Gai is really good and then you think Kakashi can beat Gai.

[Neo32]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SaSuKeRuLeS @ Dec 21 2003, 12:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Actually thats something ive been meaning to say because you figuere rock lee is incredible, with the fith gate and everything you know wat i mean. well then his sensei gai is way above his level. The way Gai teaches him just goes to show you he has way more under his sleeves to teach Rock lee http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif . So ok Rock lee is really good but then Gai is really good and then you think Kakashi can beat Gai. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Well i disagree... cos i think that gai&#39;s pride is such that he will not use forbidden techniques to defeat a fellow jounin... and you see kakashi using his sharingan eye to watch Lee attack Gaara... that shows that kakashi has not seen 5 gates being opened before.... then when you think that kakashi and gai are neck to neck in their abilities generally... thats when you realise that if Gai ever had to use the opening of his Celestial gates against kakashi then kakashi is really out of it...

[SaSuKeRuLeS]

yeh i understand what you mean by the whole pride thing. but like over the years they have fought without him using his gates and it&#39;s sort of a equal thing between them. but hey its ok i could be wrong i just wanted to show that rock lee is really strong just never got to show it because he went up against such a tough opponent u know wat i mean he couldnt get through his fuckign sand. if he fought anyone else i dont know but i think he wouldve gotten a good chance of winning except nejis byukugan im not sure about that.

[Guest]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Dec 21 2003, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> most people only started liking Lee during the fight </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
No in fact you see his true him during the fight with the sound-people in the forest.
Not during the real fights.
I liked him from that point on.

[villin]

Gaara should have squished Lee completely, not just his arm and leg. Kill off the fuzzy eyebrow bowl headed weirdo. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

[Thermonuclear]

Maybe i should clarify


All the genins would of died to Gaara in less than a few minutes (cept Lee)

Umm kakashi/gai/orochimaru/ the powerfull juunins would of probably held a better chance. I think kakashi/gai/orochimaru/3rd hokage would of killed Gaara pretty fast, and the others not as strong as kakashi/gai would fight a downhill battle.

[Thermonuclear]

What if Sasuke had to fight Gaara?

What if Naruto had to fight Gaara?

What if Neji had to fight Gaara?

What if Shino had to fight Gaara?

Thats right, no one in that room could of taken Gaara as well as Lee did except for the 3rd hokage and maybe Kakashi/Gai/Gaara&#39;s leader

Shino/Neji/Naruto/Sasuke would of died in less than 3 minutes.

[Jman]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thermonuclear @ Dec 22 2003, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Maybe i should clarify


All the genins would of died to Gaara in less than a few minutes (cept Lee)

Umm kakashi/gai/orochimaru/ the powerfull juunins would of probably held a better chance. I think kakashi/gai/orochimaru/3rd hokage would of killed Gaara pretty fast, and the others not as strong as kakashi/gai would fight a downhill battle. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
agrees
http://www.cyberconnect2.jp/naruto/menu/image/naru.gif

[Outtawack311]

Um, what about Orochimaru, Neji, ANY of the Jounins. These GENINS are not all powerful. You just haven&#39;t seen what the Chounins, Jounins and other could do so you believe that these Genins can beat anyone. I bet all of the Jounins at this point could take out the form Gaara was in (i know thats not the true him from earlier episodes; and considering he is a demon you dont know what he can do).

[DB_Hunter]

Actually thats is a good point.... just because Gaara&#39;s entitiy inside him is a demon, we don&#39;t know if it is uber strong like Kyuubi. It doesn&#39;t have to be that all demons are really strong.

[Thermonuclear]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Um, what about Orochimaru, Neji, ANY of the Jounins. These GENINS are not all powerful. You just haven&#39;t seen what the Chounins, Jounins and other could do so you believe that these Genins can beat anyone. I bet all of the Jounins at this point could take out the form Gaara was in (i know thats not the true him from earlier episodes; and considering he is a demon you dont know what he can do). </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Whoops, Orochimaru too.


Neji would of died vs Gaara.


Seriously Im pretty confident Gaara would kill anyone other than Kakashi / Gai / Orochimau / 3rd Hokage / Maybe a few others.

But i know Gaara would of killed any of the genins (duhh) just like he killed the assassins when he was young (which were probably equal to anbu)

Im just comparing Gaara to Lee, then Lee to Sasuke, then Sasuke to Kakashi, then Kakashi to Gai, then im comparing Kakashi and Gay to Orochimaru / the other chuunins (im pretty sure Kakashi and Gai are in the top 10 of Konoha)

[DB_Hunter]

Er.... animemaster what&#39;s Naruto doing there http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif ?

[Syypher77]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DB_Hunter @ Dec 22 2003, 03:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Er.... animemaster what&#39;s Naruto doing there http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif ? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
looks like hes raising the roof

[Grey_wolf]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (villin @ Dec 22 2003, 02:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Gaara should have squished Lee completely, not just his arm and leg. Kill off the fuzzy eyebrow bowl headed weirdo. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
..

Once i had 1000 kr.. that is 100 US &#036; (dollars)

So.. i showed it to everybody and asked &quot;Do you want this?&quot;
Of course everybody said &quot;Yes&#33;&quot;

So i shrinkled it and asked &quot;Do you still want this?&quot; still i got a &quot;Yes&#33;&#33;&quot;

Now i stepped on it so it got dirty.. and i ask again &quot;Do you still want this?&#33;&quot;
And still i get a &quot;yes&#33;.&quot;

See what im trying to say?

Even if he is ugly.. that dosnt mean he isnt good.. and it dosnt mean that he isnt worth living. He is stronger then most of the guys there. I mean he can open gates and thats powerful&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[forkshy]

refering to the gai vs kakashi thing.

i doubt either of them are going all out to the point where they&#39;re willing to use their most powerful jutsu. i mean, they&#39;re rivals, but there&#39;s a spark of mutual respect and friendship underneath it all (if not, one of them would certainly be dead). Also, keep in mind when compairing them that Kakashi is a brilliant strategist. It may be that Gai is much stronger in terms of brute force, but if he opened all his gates he&#39;d just hit a shadow clone of Kakashi, or at the last second Kakashi would replace his body with something else.

Gai missed it when Gaara replaced his body while in the Lotus.

I don&#39;t know who&#39;d win in a real fight, and no one will know unless we actaully see them fight each other to the death, but there&#39;s more to being a great ninja than pure power.

And about Gai jumping in. I agree with what a bunch of other poeple have said. Lee wanted to do it on his own, and if Gai had jumped in he would&#39;ve undermined his trust in his pupil. Kakashi says he doesn&#39;t knwo if he wouldn&#39;t have done the same thing with Naruto or Sasuke. Sometimes you need to let poeple make mistakes so they can learn.

(maybe Lee will learn to be more cautious with his attacks or to wait for the proper moment, instead of just going all out from the beginning.)

[DB_Hunter]

I agree with the Kakashi Vs Gai thing... just as I can&#39;t see Gai opening his gates against Kakashi I can&#39;t see Kakashi using Chidori against him either.