I guess this is where this goes...

[Kiva128]

**All new pages will be posted in this post**

Read RIGHT TO LEFT (text too).

Old Pages:
http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-00.jpg ('http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-00.jpg')
http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-01.jpg ('http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-01.jpg')
http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-02.jpg ('http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-02.jpg')
http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-03.jpg ('http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-03.jpg')
http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-04.jpg ('http://www.uploadit.org/files2/061103-Naruto-Manga-04.jpg')
http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload2/Naruto-Manga-05.jpg ('http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload2/Naruto-Manga-05.jpg')
http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/Naruto-Manga-06.jpg ('http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/Naruto-Manga-06.jpg')
http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/Naruto-Manga-07.jpg ('http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/Naruto-Manga-07.jpg')

The new page(s):

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/Naruto-Manga-08.jpg ('http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/Naruto-Manga-08.jpg') *new*

Info about the new page(s):

Hi it's me again. Quick update this time. How about that?
Page 08 (9th) is in da house~. *ahem*

Anyways, about the page. As you can see, no crazy ass backgrounds this time. Which is why it came along so quickly. This page is the prelude to one of Hiro's flashbacks which is on the next page. I had some trouble with the second panel, trying to draw Hiro from a lower angle (believe me when I say it's a lot harder than it looks). I wanted a shot of most of Hiro's body because I havn't done one in the manga yet. And people were thinking he was kakashi or something. So now there shouldn't be any confusion (hopefully).

Overall I like this page. *pats himself on back*
Enjoy~ (notice I say that a lot)
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Once again, any comments are appreciated.
Thanks for your patience.

Kiva128

[Darkflare]

the face in the last panel of the 6th page...is kurenai i suppose...looks very strange. other than that, it looks great

[Serpico]

Your backgrounds are really great and intricate, and basically I like it over all. I am really interested to see the rest http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif . I was thinking of doing berserk doujinshi myself and after looking at your stuff I feel inspired to do it! (do you read berserk?)http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Kiva128]

No I haven't read berserk ^^;;
But if you want to you should start the manga thingy. After I finished inking the very first page of mine, I knew that I had to finish it. So perhaps that's all it might take for you as well.

Thanks for the comments so far guys. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

[Orochimaru972]

the detail is incredible!! .... i try doing manga sometimes... but i grow impatient and end up stopping... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[.EcHo.]

nice, you draw good..i sux at drawing..

[jing]

good stuff, i look forward to reading more of it.

[Baka-chan]

wow, can't believe you've never drawn manga before http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif looks great. kiba reminds me of a character from some other anime, but i can't think of who...

[Jman]

nice. it takes some skill and patience to do that. good job.


and btw jing that's a funny sig. i love it http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[blacken]

http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif I hate you so much right now http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif


http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif That stuff is super awesome its almost an exact copy of the actual manga, are you sure you arent on the design team. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif

[Kiva128]

*bumpy bumpy*

[Anbu Girl]

http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif COOL!!

I didnt try to draw manga.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif I am so lazy http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

Keep up the good work !! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif

[Darkflare]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anbu Girl @ Dec 18 2003, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif COOL&#33;&#33;

I didnt try to draw manga.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif I am so lazy http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

Keep up the good work &#33;&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
finally, a girl who is lazy. all the other girls i know are always busy doing 6567854 different things

[Anbu Girl]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Darkflare @ Dec 19 2003, 04:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anbu Girl &#064; Dec 18 2003, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif COOL&#33;&#33;

I didnt try to draw manga.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif I am so lazy http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

Keep up the good work &#33;&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/cool.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
finally, a girl who is lazy. all the other girls i know are always busy doing 6567854 different things </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I am lazy in drawing ..but not lazy in other important things http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

but if I have time to draw manga.. why not&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif

[Darkflare]

i sent you a msg anbu http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wub.gif

[Brel]

very nice work there Kiva, looks completely amazing and so much better than i could hope to do so i feel weird mentioning 2 things but you&#39;ve asked for comments so:

1) the way you drew Hiro in the mid ground looks strange and not sized right on page 7, and he also kinda looks like Kakashi except for the small shoulder plate you put on him.

2) small gramatical thingy, just sounds weird to me.
Yume page 7: &quot;We can&#39;t to keep our employer waiting, you know.&quot;
i don&#39;t believe the &#39;to&#39; is supposed to be there, but i fuss over small things like that. to many years of actually listening in the wrong class.

but once again it looks amazing and you could bring the story anyway you want at this point with bringing in whatever characters you want. definetely looking forward to more.

[Darkflare]

to isnt supposed to be there

[Kiva128]

gah&#33; I always do that. Thanks guys.

and about hiro looking like kakashi (I get that a lot actually), it&#39;s generally just the face area. this is what his whole body looks like:

http://kiva128.freewebspace.com/Hiro.jpg ('http://kiva128.freewebspace.com/Hiro.jpg')
(copy &amp; paste)

thanks again guys. I&#39;ll update the link with the fix later.

[KakashiSensei]

wow dude thats a cool pic, I hope this isnt too much to ask can you do a full body pic of that guy for me, Holding his sword out?? It looks really cool and I cant draw. That would be perfect for making a wallpaper for myself. Do you mind?? If its too much to ask I&#39;m sorry but it looks soo cool. I love guys with swords and wings http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

[DB_Hunter]

Yea good job, the backgrounds are amazingly detailed.

[Forgotten]

Kiva realy nice job and l33t pic http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif

[Anbu Girl]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shardz @ Dec 19 2003, 10:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> btw, do u ink it? cuz it doesnt look like pencil

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yeah http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif ..

I was going to ask the same Q..

what did you use to ink it?

[.EcHo.]

one again, very well done

[not_sponsored]

If you finish before January 14th, you should enter your manga in the manga contest, you should have a really good shot&#33; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Beautiful Green Beast]

He reminds me of that hero from Kingdom Hearts....indeed

[Kiva128]

What do I use to ink? A brand of crappy pens. 1 decent pen for fine lines and 2 decent pens for large black areas (like hair and such). I also have 3 of this other brand that I&#39;m gonna use for inking large black areas once the ink in my other 2 run out.

The one for fine lines is a &#39; 0.3mm staedtler pigment liner&#39; whatever the hell that means.
The 2 black area pens are a &#39;0.5mm BiC Z4&#39;. It bleeds a lot so it&#39;s good for surface stuff. Although the pros use actual brushes with ink on them for large black areas. I have no brushes...or ink for that matter so I have to use a pen. I&#39;m considering just filling in all the black areas in photoshop or something. It takes too long if I have to ink really big areas.

Anyways, hope that helps. I&#39;m not really good at answering stuff like this.

As for the enter the manga into the contest thing, that&#39;s not happening since there&#39;s no way I&#39;m finishing it by January 14. There&#39;s still like...20-30 pages at least left to go.

But since it&#39;s only the backgrounds that take really really long to do, I can just de-emphasize them and draw them good, but not uber-detailed so that you know where the characters are and such. This should result in an overall speed increase. I don&#39;t have too much trouble drawing characters too fast (except when they&#39;re in crazy-ass poses/angles).

Later

[Shardz]

omg thats awesome, im trying to draw a manga also but urs would blow it away. btw, do u ink it? cuz it doesnt look like pencil

grrr

must finish cover of manga http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif

[Orochimaru972]

i was just wondering... wats this manga contest everyone speaks of? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif

[Shardz]

this contest (im so stupid for getting more competition http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif )

http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5608 ('http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5608')

o well at least kivas not entering his manga. that would own mine. i dont have any .4563545 blahblah milimeter decimeter fine tip ball point pens or w/e just a pencil and printer paper. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

btw i finished the cover&#33; now need to get my friend to scan it...hopefully itll look better after its pshoped http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif

[Orochimaru972]

im glad kiva posted his manga.... im inspired to do some manga now...i want to make my own story...

[Anbu Girl]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kiva128 @ Dec 20 2003, 06:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What do I use to ink? A brand of crappy pens. 1 decent pen for fine lines and 2 decent pens for large black areas (like hair and such). I also have 3 of this other brand that I&#39;m gonna use for inking large black areas once the ink in my other 2 run out.

The one for fine lines is a &#39; 0.3mm staedtler pigment liner&#39; whatever the hell that means.
The 2 black area pens are a &#39;0.5mm BiC Z4&#39;. It bleeds a lot so it&#39;s good for surface stuff. Although the pros use actual brushes with ink on them for large black areas. I have no brushes...or ink for that matter so I have to use a pen. I&#39;m considering just filling in all the black areas in photoshop or something. It takes too long if I have to ink really big areas.

Anyways, hope that helps. I&#39;m not really good at answering stuff like this.
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Thanks Kiva http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif that was helpful&#33;&#33;

[Kiva128]

*bump*

New page is out, guys. Check it out~

[Orochimaru972]

oHH..i like the last panel with the eyes... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_dribble.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_gap.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_w00t1.gif