Chiyu Mahou no Machigatta Tsukaikata

[Ryllharu]

Chiyu Mahou no Machigatta Tsukaikata (The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic)

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Description: On a harsh rainy day, a high school student without any particular special skills, Usato Ken, got dragged into another world summoning with two others; the beautiful Student Council President and the charismatic Vice President, both of whom he strangely started getting along with just today. As an ordinary student that doesn't stand out, he thought that he had been dragged into the situation on accident. While the other two are quickly identified as heroes, the Kingdom still hopes that Usato will be able to use magic. It is revealed he has a terrifying and rare magic affinity: Healing.

This sounds like it couldn't be a more generic isekai premise. But that's where I was pleasantly surprised.

The series sets itself apart quickly with the Vice President being angry that they've been dragged to another world without their consent. The King is a surprisingly reasonable and thoughtful leader who cares about his people as well as the three he just got involved. The student council president...well, I'll leave her as a surprise, but I thought her character development was rather well done for only a single episode. It's revealed in a comedic manner that this is actually...

Isekai Field Combat Medic - The Animation.

The animation is good, the cast is mostly relatively unknowns and they're all great. The characters have more depth to them than most isekai, and it was entertaining throughout.

It's astonishing to me that a deeply generic isekai premise can be this engaging in the hands of competent writers.

[neflight86]

Yes, very good first showing. The joke about 'hiding' the meaning of green crystal ball stretched a little thin, but everything else was near flawless. Likeable characters, some good animation, and less than overpowered characters so far. Enjoying it greatly.

[KrayZ33]

Yes, very good first showing. The joke about 'hiding' the meaning of green crystal ball stretched a little thin, but everything else was near flawless. Likeable characters, some good animation, and less than overpowered characters so far. Enjoying it greatly.

We don't really know the last part yet, do we? They could delete everything in the next episode.

I sure hope the support characters remain relevant (both of them, not just the girl).
I don't know the source material bu it would be refreshing to see if they actually group up and do some stuff on the same powerlevel between each other, against things on a similar powerlevel, so that the "group" actually has to work together and not just overpower.


I don't like the combat medic's underlings though... I dislike that "YES BOSS"-character design. Must be a japanese thing and related to some yakuza/white collar kinda stuff.

[neflight86]

We don't really know the last part yet, do we? They could delete everything in the next episode.

I suppose not, but I'm hopeful since that hand is usually played within the first episode in shows with no restraint on the power fantasy.

[Ryllharu]

Eps 2

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Rose was pretty quick to reveal their true purpose when he didn't back down or run away from her spartan training methods. They need to run as fast as they possibly can, well beyond normal human limits, so save lives on the battlefield. And Usato clicked with that immediately. He can be useful to his friends who will be fighting on the front lines. Rose and Usato are supposed to be overpowered, but not because they're fighting directly.

I like the way that this world feels alive and not necessarily centered around the main character. He's a side character in the world's narrative, at least until he suddenly will be the main character saving people from the brink of death like Rose.

Inukami being the pervert is of also a welcome treat. The ED is good, showing more hints of her life. She was happy, but lacking purpose that she has now.

Overall, the series reminds me of the earlier and more fun parts of Fire Force, before that series started down its "your true destiny" type arcs.

[David75]

Running fast and for a long time is also a plus for self preservation.
So he survives first and is fast to help others survive too.

[KrayZ33]

Sooo... so fine so good, but now the story has to change up a little and give us some stakes (I don't think the bearhunt will deliver that, but we'll see), or at least something other than training...at least if said training is just physical

I like the thirsty FMC

[Ryllharu]

Eps 3

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Of course Rose had the whole thing (mostly) planned out. She's an ogre, but she's still a healer at heart with a lot of empathy. The demon snake was a remnant from a previous invasion that the empire lost track of.

Usato done good to get her approval so fast.

We also learned that she's had two apprentices before, but they couldn't cut it at this stage.

And then finally at the end, busty demongirl sighted. I'm kind of hoping they're more of the irredeemable type, but with that design, probably not. There's actually a lot of cast shown in the OP that we've barely seen so far.

[David75]

Fanservice is needed nowadays. And I thought that in many anime, evil girls do a better job for an old guy like me :D

[neflight86]

I hoped he could keep the rabbit...

But a bear isn't so bad. I hope we got to meet the other two healers at some point.

[KrayZ33]

I hated this episode. Mostly due to the fact that I hate animals that act like humans - the rabbit perhaps because it seems to be a familiar, but the bear is wild and shouldn't be like that (and it looks super boring and ugly as well)

[neflight86]

Fair enough, but I'll call these monsters rather than animals in that they have human characteristics, like the snake killing for fun. Either way, it probably won't be a focus going forward.

[MFauli]

Caught up to episode 4.

Definitely nice to watch, but still so generic that I'll end up deciding betwee a 5 or 6 out of 10 on MAL. I wish there wouldn't be all the comedy, without it the story and setting would be more interesting. With comedy, there's always slapstick to fall back to whenever things get too serious.

I also found the solution to the bear hunt rather cheap. So instead of having to make the difficult decision of killing the bears, Usato is absolved from that and gets to kill an EVIL snake. What would have happened without the snake?

Anyway, will keep watching.

[DarthEnderX]

I wish there wouldn't be all the comedy, without it the story and setting would be more interesting.I wouldn't be watching this at all without the comedy.

[neflight86]

4,5

Still going strong. Good platonic chemistry between those two, as well. I wonder how the show will handle the actual demon invasion? What kind of scope will there be now that we have a clearer picture of everyone's roles? I'm kind of excited to see what is focused on (if not entirely rescue efforts).

[neflight86]

6

Gearing up for war, and throwing logs at bridges.

I wonder how that premonition will play out, as apparently that black knight kills everybody. And why does a simple cat girl have that and want to call in a favor later for it? A defector?

[DarthEnderX]

07

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I'm bored with this already. Another show that does nothing interesting beyond it's initial premise, which gets boring after 3 episodes.

[neflight86]

Good news is that I don't think anyone here had high hopes for just another generic isekai used as a vessel to tell a generic fantasy story. The production remains of a pretty good quality, visuals wise. I'm holding out for how the battle plays out and if healing magic's application is impactful and/or interesting.

[MFauli]

Episode 8:

Wait, so somehow her healing magic gives her super human strength? HOW? This is still what ruins everythiing about this anime the most for me: How Rose is so comically strong that all that demon danger seem like childplay. She can literally throw a big ass tree like it's nothing, clearly she'S stronger than any demon. If healing magic is supposed to answer that, it's just dumb.

Anyway, putting in a 2-episode flashback is basically filler.

This anime had a slightly interesting premise, but the focus on comedy ruined it.

[DarthEnderX]

Episode 8:Wait, so somehow her healing magic gives her super human strength? HOW?They already showed you. They do extreme physical training, and just heal themselves, so they never have to stop to rest or recover.

It's like Goku training in super gravity, with an endless supply of senzu beans.

[shinta|hikari]

Take note that they are now in a fantasy world with magic powers, so our understanding of human limits need to change. Their bodies probably grow endlessly (with of course individual differences, he is lauded as a genius/monster by Rose in this regard) as long as you are able to train and heal. Time to heal and recover is basically omitted, and he can train endlessly without risk of injury, even doing far more extreme methods that no one other than those that can heal themselves as well as him and bosslady can do.

[MFauli]

Take note that they are now in a fantasy world with magic powers, so our understanding of human limits need to change. Their bodies probably grow endlessly (with of course individual differences, he is lauded as a genius/monster by Rose in this regard) as long as you are able to train and heal. Time to heal and recover is basically omitted, and he can train endlessly without risk of injury, even doing far more extreme methods that no one other than those that can heal themselves as well as him and bosslady can do.


You'll have to show me a source where it says that the human body is that different in that world. And if so: Why does Rose not help soldiers to train their bodies then?!

[David75]

Basically: they can go to human limits and repair what breaks when doing so.

And as stated, it's possible the limits are different as they live in a world bathed in magic.

Then what we check next is the power balance.

Edit: Rose and MC have their healing magic working full time. Other soldiers can't train like them.

[Ryllharu]

They're also overstressing and destroying their muscle tissue and healing it as they act, pushing themselves over normal human limits.

Not the first IP featuring regen to do this gimmick.

[MFauli]

Again: Then why not train the royal soldiers with that method? Who Rose cares so much about? It's like she's the only one who knows about it and keeps it to herself.

Nah.

[Ryllharu]

It's because it doesn't work that way. Usato had to figure it out instinctually, and as the other healer and his sister described, what you're doing is different every time and for every healer and every patient.

Curing himself of cholera was different from curing himself from being poisoned, which was also different from how he continually heals himself from exertion. He had to be uniquely attuned to what was going sore in his body where.

It's not something that works universally. This isn't "Cast Curaga" and you're back to full health without putting some actual thought into it. Even healing a broken bone took some thought on how to approach it.

That's why the rescue squad's priority is to Get In, assess who can be saved by the backline healers and who can't, Get Out as fast as possible, and don't let yourself get killed.

[shinta|hikari]

In short, Rose and MC are special. They are the only ones who can do what they do, and everyone, including Rose, acknowledges this fact, and has explicitly said so a few times already. The other healers in the group cannot heal themselves they way Rose and MC do, so they are not even active combatants.

[MFauli]

It's because it doesn't work that way. Usato had to figure it out instinctually, and as the other healer and his sister described, what you're doing is different every time and for every healer and every patient.

Curing himself of cholera was different from curing himself from being poisoned, which was also different from how he continually heals himself from exertion. He had to be uniquely attuned to what was going sore in his body where.

It's not something that works universally. This isn't "Cast Curaga" and you're back to full health without putting some actual thought into it. Even healing a broken bone took some thought on how to approach it.

That's why the rescue squad's priority is to Get In, assess who can be saved by the backline healers and who can't, Get Out as fast as possible, and don't let yourself get killed.


This reads a whole lot like "I like this anime and will make up any excuse to protect it from valid criticism".

@shinta: Yes, Rose is special. In a comical, gag-manga way. That's the problem.

[Ryllharu]

This reads a whole lot like "I like this anime and will make up any excuse to protect it from valid criticism".

Read it as, "I pay attention and have more than a short term memory. This anime has directly told us this multiple times," because that's what is going on here, just like many series in the past.

Maybe focus less on how you wish a series to unfold and pay more attention to what the series explicitly details.

[DarthEnderX]

Take note that they are now in a fantasy world with magic powers, so our understanding of human limits need to change.I mean...it's also an anime. So even if they WEREN'T in a fantasy world with magic powers, our understanding of human limits would need to change.


Maybe focus less on how you wish a series to unfold and pay more attention to what the series explicitly details.That's how I read it. Wanting another series to be something completely different than what it was intended to be.


@shinta: Yes, Rose is special. In a comical, gag-manga way. That's the problem.It's a comical gag manga kind of show!

WHY do you keep watching these when you don't like them?!

[shinta|hikari]

I mean...it's also an anime. So even if they WEREN'T in a fantasy world with magic powers, our understanding of human limits would need to change.


That depends on what the show itself established. I wouldn't expect Monster's Dr. Tenma to suddenly use healing magic instead of surgery.

[MFauli]

It's a comical gag manga kind of show!

WHY do you keep watching these when you don't like them?!

Stop. If we all agree that this is a gag manga kind of show, I have zero issues.

As for why I keep watching these? Because I keep hoping for better and the premise was promising.

[DarthEnderX]

If we all agree that this is a gag manga kind of show, I have zero issues.It should have been obvious the second they revealed that the Class President is a secret otaku what kind of show this was.

[MFauli]

It should have been obvious the second they revealed that the Class President is a secret otaku what kind of show this was.

Her being a weeb has no impact on the laws of physics. Rose throwing a tree completely changes the dynamics with the demon threat.

I was actually hoping they'd reveal that Rose is half-demon or something.

[shinta|hikari]

Didn't Rose still lose her right eye and get her entire group killed despite being as strong as she is?

I think the demons are an actual threat either way.

[MFauli]

Episode 11:

So ... did ANYONE die in this "war battle"?

"We need to keep casualties down", Rose said, but I couldn't spot any dead soldiers at all.

This whole battle felt like cosplayers doing their thing. And, of course, the evil black knight who's murdered countless people gets to live, because there's a cute girl inside the armour.

Fuck, can someone pls warn me of such shit anime in the future? Thx

[Ryllharu]

You lack attention to detail or long-term memory, maybe both.

He ran past a lot of dead bodies last episode getting to his friends. Once dead, they stay dead.

And Rose spent years setting up a system and training people like this for exactly this reason. It is the reason humanity stands a chance against the physically superior demons. The "kidnappers" return people to the battlefield. They retain their experience, they become better fighters, and the demons lose a battle of attrition.

The whole concept was explored exhaustively in Helck as well.

[MFauli]

You lack attention to detail or long-term memory, maybe both.

He ran past a lot of dead bodies last episode getting to his friends. Once dead, they stay dead.

And Rose spent years setting up a system and training people like this for exactly this reason. It is the reason humanity stands a chance against the physically superior demons. The "kidnappers" return people to the battlefield. They retain their experience, they become better fighters, and the demons lose a battle of attrition.

The whole concept was explored exhaustively in Helck as well.

I didn't see any dead people THIS episode. And what you describe still sounds like cosplay instead of real battle. It's shit.

[Ryllharu]

Also, if you couldn't tell that the black night was a teenager, and very likely a girl, you were also missing every single hint since their first appearance.

I know you want edgelord clichés when it comes to fighting/battles/war, but the kingdom here is actually doing things intelligently by valuing their own soldiers' lives the most.

I'm not entirely sure I see the value in showing a field of corpses again. They already did as they were running across it, showing it again doesn't serve the narrative they're going for because the victory was in saving as many human lives as possible. The kingdom was on defense.

[MFauli]

Also, if you couldn't tell that the black night was a teenager, and very likely a girl, you were also missing every single hint since their first appearance.

I know you want edgelord clichés when it comes to fighting/battles/war, but the kingdom here is actually doing things intelligently by valuing their own soldiers' lives the most.

I'm not entirely sure I see the value in showing a field of corpses again. They already did as they were running across it, showing it again doesn't serve the narrative they're going for because the victory was in saving as many human lives as possible. The kingdom was on defense.

Nah, I don't want "edgelord cliches", I want realism instead of "Am I kawaii?" clichees.

And the knight being a girl was supposed to be twist reveal, there were no obvious hints, but of course you knew it. I applaud you, Ryll.

[Ryllharu]

And the knight being a girl was supposed to be twist reveal, there were no obvious hints, but of course you knew it. I applaud you, Ryll.

Girl voice behind the modulation, which guaranteed teen. Constantly acted like a whiny teen to the commanders. Constantly talking about how bored they are. Armor had high heels instead of greaves.

Not that hard.

[DarthEnderX]

Fuck, can someone pls warn me of such shit anime in the future? ThxYou want us to...what? Use our future powers to tell you what a show is going to be like, while it's still airing?

I'm pretty sure we tell you all the time to stop watching shows you're constantly complaining about. But you never do it.

[neflight86]

Just watched 11; funny that the pain isn't healed when he punches... that could have been a truely edgelord development; you can torture someone forever or until they go crazy because the only damage is purely mental. I guess there's still the chance that could happen now that she's captured, but that would drastically clash with the tone of the show, so unlikely.

I expected teen, but I missed the girl part as well- not that it matters because shows like this don't bother to introduce named characters just to kill them off when they can serve another narrative purpose- isekai storytelling is just that 'economical'. By the way, if this were just a hair worse (being the same as boilerplate isekai), that 'narrative purpose' would certainly be expanding the harem, so Chiyu Mahou gets props for that, at least. AND don't forget they finally got to use the title in dialogue.

It is hard to take the warfare in this seriously, even with the death filled flashback due to the generally uplifting and lighthearted tone the series has been in from episode one, for better or worse. We didn't get a consistent scope/strength comparison or strategic vision for either side, so what we have is random disconnected 'fighting in the sand' scenes. Bit of a missed opportunity.

[DarthEnderX]

12

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Aaaaand Black Knight goes in the harem.

[Ryllharu]

Suzune being fiercely jealous of all the "flags" that Usato set off with the black knight was worth the cliche development with the black knight.

Also, we finally saw the darker side to the Princess, hahaha.