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KrayZ33
Fri, 04-08-2022, 01:48 PM
"Upon awakening a gamer finds himself in his avatar body that he uses in his online game. Seeing his reflection in river, he is shocked to discover that his facial appearance is that of a skeleton due to the special avatar skin『Skeleton』he used. In unfamiliar territory, the gamer decides that it would be best to hide his appearance and search for inhabitants. He spies a band of bandits attacking a group at a distance. While contemplating whether or not to get involved, after he sees the bandits about to rape two women, he springs to action, killing the men. The women introduce themselves as Lauren, a noblewoman, and Rita Farren, her maid. Introducing himself as Arc, the knight agrees to escort the two ladies to the town of Rubierute. Though he refuses a reward, to avoid meeting Lauren's father, Buckle, as it would cause complications should the noble ask to see his face, Rita gives him a copper passport to allow him easier passage through any city in the territory. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeleton_Knight_in_Another_World

https://i.imgur.com/0Fgdfay.jpg

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Episode 1:


I know a lot of people will disagree, but this was like 100x more fun to watch than I expected.
I like the armor, I like the sillyness of it all and even the way he showed up as the "hero" here was kinda awesome.

First episode felt like a cooler and more fun version of Overlord.
Animation isn't as bad as I expected either.
Nothing noteworthy, but not noteworthy bad either.


The opening was so weird and silly, it was almost amazing again.
It was pretty much what I'd call "charmingly silly", like an old TV show. The ending song as well.

I will honestly consider this as "anime of the season" if this keeps up (because it's a rather weak season anyway)... but one episode is certainly not enough to properly judge that


As for the whole setup with the skills and "power" and all... it was so minimalistic, but probably enough for what is going to happen in this show. So I liked that as well....
I can't wait for MC to get into more awkward situations.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 04-08-2022, 11:46 PM
That OP gives Peacemaker a run for it's money.


So yeah, what if exactly Overlord's premise, but the opposite tone.

Kraco
Fri, 04-15-2022, 04:39 PM
What does this have in common with Overlord, apart from a skeletor body and OP stats?

I didn't expect so high production values from a random isekai series (which this is). Since I dropped the Shield Hero s2, I might watch this instead. I was most certainly more entertained by the first episode of this series than that of the Shield Hero.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 04-15-2022, 06:14 PM
What does this have in common with Overlord, apart from a skeletor body and OP stats?Pretending that's not enough, he also entered his video game world by falling asleep while playing it.

Ryllharu
Fri, 04-15-2022, 06:38 PM
What does this have in common with Overlord, apart from a skeletor body and OP stats?

Because literally everything is Overlord.

- Teleported into a video game as your overpowered character when it ends? Overlord...oh wait, that's actually Leadale which just got an anime that ended last season. Overlord and Leadale both started as web novels in the same year, 2010, and were both on the same website, but Overlord wasn't uploaded there until 2012.
- ...but having a significant impact on the world to the point of remaking it based on you and your friend's influence when you were playing the game, but now it is all real? Overlor...oh wait, that's Leadale again.
- Being so overwhelmingly powerful that most of the normal denizens of the world you were transported to fear you as a legendary monster? Overlord...oh wait. Leadale again.
- Having a ton of in-game NPCs that were the lead character's AI created subordinates became sentient, and they missed the protagonist so much in their absence from the world that they become distressingly clingy and dependent? Overlord...oh yeah, Leadale did that first too, because it ended the same year Overlord started...

Hmm...

- They get transported to their favorite videogame but are definitely an anti-hero. Overlord...Oh wait, that's BTOOOM.
- Oh, they get transported to their favorite videogame but are definitely evil because they're being mind-controlled and actually have no agency of their own. That's Overlord.

Kraco
Sat, 04-16-2022, 01:15 AM
Edit: May contain episode 2 information.


Pretending that's not enough, he also entered his video game world by falling asleep while playing it.

There are a bazillion isekai series by now, with great many starting by the MC finding themselves in the isekai after having fallen asleep. I wouldn't say it's a particular significant detail how the story starts in that sense, it just creates a little less traumatic beginning if the MC doesn't remember dying in the original world. Sure, it's similar between this series and Overlord, but it's quite a meaningless thing, nonetheless. Kind of like saying they are both seemingly medieval worlds. 99% of isekai must be, so that's also meaningless.

The differences between this and Overlord are far more significant than the similarities:

The skeletor appearance is one big difference, in fact, because in Overlord Ainz doesn't need to hide it. He's among his own kind (monsters) most of the time. He's only hiding it when using his alter ego, Momon. Arc has no choice but to hide it from everyone.
Ainz is a leader of a nation, Arc is a lonely adventurer. This is also significant because Ainz is fundamentally bound to a single place, whereas Arc didn't even have a penny to his name, much less a home with friends/underlings.
Strangely Arc didn't possess a pocket dimension, like you'd have in most fantasy RPGs, which Ainz naturally does have.
Ainz can be viewed as an evil character, even if he's a lot of the time pushed into it by his underlings, whereas Arc is surely a hero.
Ainz is actually restricted by his class, magician, whereas Arc has a broad fusion class with multiple abilities from diverse sources, which makes Arc a more typical OP isekai MC. I'm not saying Ainz wouldn't still be OP in the isekai, though.


I could probably come up with more, but that's a good start with a bunch of points that matter continuously, unlike a single detail that only mattered during the first seconds, like how he got transported. While the skeletor appearance is indeed a big shared thing, the consequences do differ, so it's kind of like a 50-50 thing between a similarity and difference.

DarthEnderX
Sat, 04-16-2022, 02:31 AM
There are a bazillion isekai series by now, with great many starting by the MC finding themselves in the isekai after having fallen asleep. I wouldn't say it's a particular significant detail how the story starts in that sense.None of them are significant individually. But taken together, a lot of insignificant similarities makes a big similarity.

Kraco
Sat, 04-16-2022, 03:04 AM
None of them are significant individually. But taken together, a lot of insignificant similarities makes a big similarity.

Uhhuh. You could take any two isekai, no matter how different looking, and make an endless list of similarities. Such as being based on a game. Has monsters. Has magic. Has a male MC. Has girls hanging around the MC, and so forth. Is it really meaningful? If the MC wasn't a skeletor in this series, like in Overlord, nobody would think them particularly similar, even though they are similar simply by being typical isekai. As far as isekai goes, the biggest differences are between the seinen/shounen and shoujo/josei genres, which understandably makes sense. They are more often than not fundamentally different.

KrayZ33
Sat, 04-16-2022, 05:36 AM
I consider most Isekai similar to Overlord. Because they are all the same in the first place.


This show is like Overlord because it's a skeleton hero in disguise that's OP and could basically be named "Momon-the Anime show".

If it doesn't remind you of Overlord then I don't know what would.


If the MC wasn't a skeletor in this series, like in Overlord, nobody would think them particularly similar, even though they are similar simply by being typical isekai.

But he *is* a skeleton, so.... That makes it already more similar to it than the other 500 isekais we have every year. I mean, you are basically saying "if it didn't have the only unique thing overlord had, no one would say it's like overlord"

The setup is way more similar to Overlord than it is to Slime for example when it comes to what the character has, what he is, what he did, how the people would react. etc.

Kraco
Sat, 04-16-2022, 06:23 AM
Sure, this is similar in having a skeletor MC, but that's where the similarities end if you ignore the thousand other isekai tropes that exist in the ten thousand isekai series out there. You could say Overlord and Slime have equal similarities by having the MC tied to a monster nation they need to take care of. However, the real unique thing about Overlord is nothing that superficial. It's that the MC is evil. That's (still) relatively rare in isekai. Maybe because it's kind of difficult for the majority of the audience to stomach (myself included), in the end. Precisely when it's not an edgelord revenge story about a bloody but still justified payback.

neflight86
Thu, 04-21-2022, 07:40 AM
One differentiator is that this doesn't forget to have a bit of fun and not have the protagonist take himself too seriously. Really, he acts like this is one big RP experience with no clear end in sight. I don't know if I'm confusing bravado for character, but there is life in this skeleton.

I liked that the small time guild guy plainly stated that he looks too well off to be getting quests from the pub's board, and the 'random backstory' bit was pretty good. Small bits of detail in the world building sometimes separate the goo... watchable iseaki from the trash.

Kraco
Thu, 04-21-2022, 11:44 AM
Episode 3

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Stock evil noble at least was aware of his even more evil son being a useless waste of skin.

I already said it before, but it's really weird Arc doesn't have a pocket dimension. It's hard to imagine an RPG without it, even if it was nominally a backpack, sack, or whatever. Survival games often have it stricter, but even those tend to stretch carry capacity. You need to look at something like Arma, a tactical shooter, to get anywhere near realistic, but that would be insufferable in an RPG. Did he actually have a bottomless bag, for example, but it's not on him anymore after getting isekaied? I have to wonder how he makes it work now. He got a huge amount of loot from the bandit cave, but what did he do with it afterwards?

Kraco
Thu, 04-28-2022, 02:28 PM
Episode 4


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Keeping the helmet on all the time allows Arc to keep ogling at that pair of boobs without Ariane being aware of it at all. The considerable height difference further masks his true intentions.

KrayZ33
Sat, 04-30-2022, 07:51 AM
Haha, yeah.

as for the episodes.
Kinda a bit too slow for my liking, but I still enjoy it. Enough to keep watching at least.
Don't necessarily like the whole kidnapping stuff.
It's pretty stupid that these children run around in a forest all alone and get snatched by some super powerless thugs.

I guess these kind of things show whenever an author just doesn't really care.

I mean, I don't really mind because I can pretend to not care either... but the whole abduction stuff could be done in a more interesting way with relative minor adjustments..
Traps, actual capable people going on a "hunt" and stuff like that.

I'm never sure if the source material is just as simple or if it's done because of the low anime budget.

Kraco
Sat, 04-30-2022, 10:49 AM
Don't necessarily like the whole kidnapping stuff.
It's pretty stupid that these children run around in a forest all alone and get snatched by some super powerless thugs.

I guess these kind of things show whenever an author just doesn't really care.

I mean, I don't really mind because I can pretend to not care either... but the whole abduction stuff could be done in a more interesting way with relative minor adjustments..
Traps, actual capable people going on a "hunt" and stuff like that.

Very true. I guess this was the author's attempt to make it look more clandestine, instead of real raids into elven settlements, which would look more like warfare and thus nobody could pretend they know nothing about it. But this plot sure is full of weaknesses. The elves should be far more familiar with the forests and combat in forests, so it's indeed strange the weak goons could multiple times capture whole groups of children without the elves being able to do anything about it, apart from going to rescue them afterwards.

DarthEnderX
Sat, 04-30-2022, 11:42 AM
It's pretty stupid that these children run around in a forest all alone and get snatched by some super powerless thugs.I'm assuming they were originally accompanied by adults who were killed by the thugs.

KrayZ33
Sat, 04-30-2022, 04:42 PM
I'm assuming they were originally accompanied by adults who were killed by the thugs.

Maybe, but then they should show it at least somewhat. And it's also unlikely considering that the noble was looking for adults to catch.

"Elven warriors" seem to be something special, not just in like every fantasy setting there is, but also in this one when the kids say "an elven warrior will come and rescue us".

Dunno, I kinda expect these elves to be better than a few humans that don't seem to be anything but brawns.
It's just so boring to see skinny/brawny village idiots doing this.

You have probably seen the special episode of Mushoku Tensei? - The assassins there were pretty cool n' stuff.
Just turn these kind of guys into tracker/trappers/hunters (the type of guys that use tactics and maybe even animals) and you have some interesting and believable matchup right there, even if our skel-hero will clean them up in the end (just like Eris did)

I mean, the way it was portrayed here was that they went into the woods with a big cage-wagon and it looked like they were picking little baby elves up as if they were in some kind of chicken-coop and hunting baby chicken.

What I'm saying is basically: How can an adult man write his story like that and not cringe when he does so. Even more amazing that these kind of stories get attention and money as well.
As mentioned earlier, I'm a consumer that doesn't "need" all that to enjoy a show... but it's also not like wouldn't enjoy it a lot more if someone invested 2 more minutes to improve his story and worldbuilding.

"It's free" - basically.
But maybe the source material is actually a lot better - but I will certainly not even check it out because of how poorly that was done.

KrayZ33
Tue, 05-03-2022, 02:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxtUG2AWn80

I found it interesting who actually sings this opening.
It looks kinda awesome how he sings it as well. Just look at his neck.

This show's opening gives me some old-school anime vibes. What I mean is, not because of the style of music, but due to what they show and how they use the sound in the scenes slightly in the background.

It's almost like I'm watching M.A.S.K. again... it even reminds me of stuff like Slayers or Ranma.

neflight86
Wed, 05-04-2022, 09:59 AM
One detail I appreciated this ep was how, even without the skeleton knight, it appeared the two elven warriors would have been able to pull the job off without too much hassle. The only limiting factor seems against plain brigands seems to be hostage situations. In too many isekai, the world is a sea of flames without the awesome self-insert hero around to right the wrongs all the time, but this at least looked like it would be resolved similarly without his involvement.

Kraco
Wed, 05-04-2022, 10:41 AM
Not faring well in hostage situations is a pretty big problem when you are trying to rescue imprisoned, defenseless people from a whole company of criminals.

neflight86
Wed, 05-04-2022, 11:55 AM
Not arguing that, but you could hear all of their big, weighty footsteps the entire time they were in the mansion. Security seemed like a joke if they could stealth like that and get away with it, and the few they did fight put no appreciable resistance (flame sword). It just looked like this was a very easy mission with or without.

Kraco
Wed, 05-04-2022, 01:26 PM
Not arguing that, but you could hear all of their big, weighty footsteps the entire time they were in the mansion. Security seemed like a joke if they could stealth like that and get away with it, and the few they did fight put no appreciable resistance (flame sword). It just looked like this was a very easy mission with or without.

True enough. It didn't look like any of the goons even tried to use the children as hostages. On the other hand, half of the crooks were already offed by the animal ears ninja, which left less work to do for the elves. However, she's also a part of that world, so she can't be used against your argument, more or less. She would have been there, with Arc or without Arc.

neflight86
Wed, 05-04-2022, 01:42 PM
Almost forgot about her. I could complain about the coincidence that they call their sec ops spy/assassin types 'ninjas' too (not shinobi, strangely) in this isekai world, but then I'd have to reconcile not being annoyed with everyone already speaking perfect Japanese... and I forgot this was based on a video game.

Kraco
Thu, 05-05-2022, 11:30 AM
Episode 5



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At least Arc emptied the marquis's coffers. Otherwise the man would have escaped with nary a punishment. Losing his treasury will hurt, though. Of course he could raise taxes, but that would make all the people unhappy, which would have its consequences. Other nobles, bankers, and merchants might also take advantage of him while his pockets are empty. Unless the two freed elf slaves castrated him, Arc's way of punishing him was the heaviest.

The elves are pretty lenient, though. Even the waste of skin son was left alive and free. If the elves don't dictate harsh terms in future negotiations, the slavers will keep doing what they have been doing. Assuming the elves aren't actually fearful of an invasion by the humans.

KrayZ33
Thu, 05-05-2022, 01:40 PM
I laughed so hard when Arc took the money the elf offered.
Everyone would just say "naaah, keep it", but my man is basically roleplaying a proper DnD Rogue.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 05-06-2022, 12:46 AM
Every episode starts and I'm like "Content warning again?", and then every episode there's just a liiiiiittle bit of elf rape...

Kraco
Fri, 05-06-2022, 09:46 AM
Every episode starts and I'm like "Content warning again?", and then every episode there's just a liiiiiittle bit of elf rape...

An exceptionally sensitive localisation editor. I hope he/she didn't need to visit a psychiatrist after watching the episodes. Although I bet the person has been visiting one for their whole life anyway. Chipping a fingernail probably left the doofus with a PTSD.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 05-06-2022, 11:50 AM
An exceptionally sensitive localisation editor.Or, ya know, one who's job it is to be sensitive to the audience.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 05-06-2022, 02:00 PM
I like the ninja girl.

KrayZ33
Sat, 05-07-2022, 12:03 AM
I like the ninja girl.

Me too actually.
I like the design - somewhat generic but still rather detailed.

Seeing that she isn't bothered by it when she is slicing everyone up while they are asleep makes her kinda awesome as well.

puffy fluffy ears and tail is a big plus of course.

Kraco
Sat, 05-07-2022, 03:03 AM
One good thing about the ninja girl is that she didn't immediately become Arc's follower. She has her own thing going on, she can do it on her own, so she left to pursue it. She shared some info because it served her purposes as well, but that's it. I guess I shouldn't blame Ariane for wanting to keep Arc around considering his power is beyond her comprehension, he's amiable, and willing to help the elves. So, it would be idiotic not to try to make him a very good friend of the elves. Nevertheless, she must realise that next to him, she will look like the lesser party member.

DarthEnderX
Sat, 05-07-2022, 03:24 AM
I mean, she definitely WILL be his follower though, cause she's in the ED with the rest of them.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 05-07-2022, 08:18 AM
Wouldn't Arc technically be the follower since it is their goal he is helping with?

Kraco
Sat, 05-07-2022, 09:17 AM
Technically yes, but he's vastly more powerful, plus, in the end, he's the MC. If you consider this episode, it was pretty much Arc who handled the whole case. Ariane herself would have probably found it difficult just to get past the castle gates. However, in Arc's company she doesn't really even need to come up with elaborate plans, let alone contingency plans, because Arc is so powerful and can heal & teleport. If they do things Arc's way, due to using his powers, then it's difficult to say Ariane would be the party leader, even if it's her mission.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 05-07-2022, 12:27 PM
Was it ever explained how Arc eats? Isn't he just a skeleton? Won't the food and drinks just pass through and seep out of his armor?

Kraco
Sat, 05-07-2022, 01:23 PM
He's not an undead, though. He just looks like a skeleton. Wasn't it a skeleton skin for the player character, or something? I can't quite remember.

David75
Sat, 05-07-2022, 01:41 PM
Was it ever explained how Arc eats? Isn't he just a skeleton? Won't the food and drinks just pass through and seep out of his armor?
Ep1 and 2 he's been shown eating and drinking with no such problems.
I like the skin/apparence idea. Simple explanation.

Buffalobiian
Tue, 05-10-2022, 07:33 PM
Was it ever explained how Arc eats? Isn't he just a skeleton? Won't the food and drinks just pass through and seep out of his armor?

They got around this by drawing a thick neck rather than drawing him with just a cervical vertebral column. How this works physiologically, who knows. I'm in the "it's just a skin" camp.

I'm also with Kraco in that this feels more different than similar to Overlord. Overlord for me is more about Ainz running his organisation, management of his underlings and the display of his vassal's powers and mostly unyielding loyalty/expectations. His fights have plans proportional to the number of buffs he has.

OP characters are quite usual for isekai so that doesn't really count for me. Being a skeleton is a similarity, as is the incoherence between their inner thoughts and the way they act, but everything else feels quite different. This guy wings his fights, even if he's trying to be "careful" against the Basilisk. I don't know why he was trying to do that anyway. The "careful" thing to do would have been to stay at a distance and Wyvern slash it to death instead of tanking hits.

DarthEnderX
Thu, 05-12-2022, 01:09 PM
They got around this by drawing a thick neck rather than drawing him with just a cervical vertebral column. How this works physiologically, who knows. I'm in the "it's just a skin" camp.06

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He seems like a real skeleton in the bath.

And Ponta slept INSIDE his rib cage.

Buffalobiian
Thu, 05-12-2022, 06:17 PM
Yeah, he looks like a proper skeleton now.

Kraco
Fri, 05-13-2022, 02:57 AM
I wonder if Ariane's mother could quite comprehend Arc's true power only with that duel she completely dominated. All things considered, Arc only probably used 5% of his true power, or rather even less. But then again, she's over 200 years old, pardon me, 170 years, so she ought to have enough wisdom to understand Arc took the duel as a pure swordsmanship thing. She should be able to understand more than Ariane. In the end Ariane hasn't seen anything yet, either, though she does know Arc is versatile.

This did show the difference between hacking and slashing in a game and true skills with a sword. It's surprisingly something not too many isekai bother to address. But then again, if you have the typical cheat skills of an isekai MC, it doesn't really matter.

Despite having the body is a skeleton, Arc must still be able to feel things; the bath didn't look like only a spiritual experience for him.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 05-13-2022, 10:31 AM
The point was that, even with Arc's massive speed and strengh, he still swings a sword like his player.

Kraco
Fri, 05-13-2022, 01:02 PM
Yeah. But since he has all kinds of game skills, spells, and power attacks, he's still overpowering. It was a good sign he'd like to learn real swordsmanship on top of the game swordsmanship he currently possesses. Of course it makes sense since he is pretty careful and doesn't like to underestimate opponents. He doesn't even know just how powerful he is in that world. He knows he's much above ordinary thugs and guards and knows what a young elf warrior is capable of. He also has some idea of the close combat skills of an older elf warrior, but little else. Yeah, and he knows he can beat some random monsters no problem. He has no idea of the dragon lord, though.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 05-13-2022, 01:41 PM
I actually have no idea what other skills Arc has. In that spar, he only used dimension move once, and retaliated with his poor swordsmanship afterwards. Realistically, if he just didn't want to get hit, he could just spam dimension move like he did when fighting the basilisk. Maybe he has a ton of other magic spells that could just AOE pawn the elf mom, but there wouldn't be a point in using those in a sword spar.

Kraco
Fri, 05-13-2022, 02:49 PM
Yeah, we don't know what he has and it's possible he doesn't quite know that himself. He was quite baffled when he figured out he's basically a fusion class (warrior, knight, monk, priest, summoner, magician, sorcerer). Since it's a high level character (actually max level if you check the first ep), it has to have a whole bunch of skills and powers. What kind of game would it have been otherwise? He already knows he can use priest, knight, and magician class powers. In fact it's fairly interesting that despite being max level holy knight, he can't somehow natively fight with a sword like a real pro. It feels like magic is more forgiving for an isekaied person than physical skills.

neflight86
Fri, 05-13-2022, 03:00 PM
I wonder what's the deal with Big Sis's betrothal? Is that set up to be some scumbag to save her from, or some off-hand characterization to introduce her with?

Also, always dry off your spirit animals properly after giving them a bath to prevent hypothermia.

Buffalobiian
Fri, 05-13-2022, 06:59 PM
Arc's fights so far have been spamming Blood Hound Step (https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Bloodhound%27s+Step)and Moonveil (https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Moonveil) to great effect. Skills aside, we saw the difference in reaction between Arc's reaction to a surprise rear attack vs the mum's reaction.


I wonder what's the deal with Big Sis's betrothal? Is that set up to be some scumbag to save her from, or some off-hand characterization to introduce her with?

Not sure, but it's setting the trend of strong female elves marrying and settling down while the trainees go save captured comrades..

Seemingly, "dark elves" are just pink haired elves.

Edit@below: a man of culture I see.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 05-13-2022, 09:49 PM
Arc's fights so far have been spamming Blood Hound Step (https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Bloodhound%27s+Step)and Moonveil (https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Moonveil) to great effect.I understood that reference.

Kraco
Thu, 05-19-2022, 12:13 PM
Episode 7


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At least Arc, by chance, resurrected a good member of royalty, not a rotten one. By the looks of it, the odds were against that.

I feel like Arc has been artificially nerfed by his own attitude. Sure, he's not 100% accustomed to his body and the idea of living in that world, but considering he does have a lot of power, to the point of undoubtedly being OP at least to a certain degree (right in this episode a spell he could spam multiple times was viewed as a divine miracle by a princess), it would make sense he would still get things done, even if he went too far. So, his sudden "I don't know what to do and how to use my powers" stance is annoying and worrisome. It would make more sense that he would cause a lot of unnecessary damage to the surroundings by using too much power. Since it's power he can use freely.

shinta|hikari
Thu, 05-19-2022, 09:41 PM
He is clearly OP. The reason he "lost" to the elf mom was because it was a training session. Her attacks did NOTHING to his armor, just like those wolves. He was doing kendo, and he naturally lost to a better swordsman due to points on hits.

But actual life or death fights are another story. Honestly, I don't even know if he can be killed. He is a fucken skeleton...

Regeneration resurrecting people is a truly dumb skill name.

Loli Ninja is back!

Kraco
Thu, 05-19-2022, 11:44 PM
I wasn't talking about the bout with the elf mama anymore. I already addressed that earlier. I had no particular problem with that friendly match. I was talking about the fight against the wolves. He was faring worse than Ariane. And later the fight against the assassins and noting several of them escaped, despite the pack of wolves getting involved as well. He has shown signs of this earlier as well, but it's fair to say he just wasn't so used to the world and it didn't matter so much back then. Now it mattered, though. Especially with the assassins. He decided to save the princess but let a portion of the killers escape, possibly to try again later or at least make a report on the interference to their employer.

Buffalobiian
Fri, 05-20-2022, 01:09 AM
For whatever reason, Arc is being super cautious (despite wolves hanging off his armour etc), when it seems like he can just facetank everything.

His weakness is that he's a noob to fighting. Things like controlling space, movement, terrain advantage, baiting, controlling his own body etc. He's an over-levelled character as opposed instead of being Jackie Chan.

I found it funny that the wolves were bled and hung when all she seemed to be after was the tails. It'd make more sense to at least show the rest of the skinned pelts to visually confirm that she made use of the whole wolf.

The uncurse thing vs Skeleton is logically inconsistent but I doubt it's significant to the story. By logically inconsistent, imagine this - What'd happen Arc uncursed his chest while Ponta was resting inside? Is he truly a skeleton, or a human? Or is he 100% one, then 100% the other depending on the status of Uncurse?

Kraco
Fri, 05-20-2022, 01:56 AM
The uncurse thing vs Skeleton is logically inconsistent but I doubt it's significant to the story. By logically inconsistent, imagine this - What'd happen Arc uncursed his chest while Ponta was resting inside? Is he truly a skeleton, or a human? Or is he 100% one, then 100% the other depending on the status of Uncurse?

It's indeed pretty weird. Considering he eats and drinks just fine, I reckon he also needs to eat and drink to live. We know he's not an undead. So, it's indeed a skeleton avatar/skin applied on top of the normal human one. It's like he's a normal human, but everything in his body, apart from the bones, is invisible and incorporeal. So, all the flesh, organs, and skin is there, but you can't see or touch them. When he uses the anti-curse spell, it temporarily makes the flesh visible, possibly also corporeal. I suppose it makes sense for that world, which is real, not a game anymore, to treat the avatar/skin issue like that, as a curse. It might be funny in a game, but if you had to live your life like that, it would indeed be a curse.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 05-20-2022, 05:32 AM
What's actually funny is the mechanics of him trying to have sex. How fast can you spam uncurse Arc?!

He needs some kind of Uncurse Field or Uncurse Pool or something.

Kraco
Fri, 05-20-2022, 05:44 AM
What's actually funny is the mechanics of him trying to have sex. How fast can you spam uncurse Arc?!

He needs some kind of Uncurse Field or Uncurse Pool or something.

He doesn't need to worry about that at all because this is a shounen series! The strongest fundamental force in a shounen universe is the inability of the MC to have sex.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 05-20-2022, 01:23 PM
This is a light novel adaptation though. That POS Arifureta proves that that's not always the case. That's a shonen light novel adaptation, and that guy totally fucks the loli in, like, the first arc.

Kraco
Fri, 05-20-2022, 01:37 PM
A good point. Maybe it gets a special privilege by being an edgelord series?

neflight86
Thu, 05-26-2022, 08:48 AM
Thankfully his self doubt hasn't manifested in any meaningful hesitation; that's where it would begin to grate for me.

I'm glad he remembered to try to resurrect the fallen soldiers. For some reason I fully expected him to only heal the cute princess and consort. Never more glad to be wrong. Also, wolf pack leader is, indeed, a good boy.

I wish I were more excited for the ninja, but her injections so far have been pretty random, so the upcoming arc (no pun intended) will hopefully flesh her out a bit (also, no pun intended).

Kraco
Thu, 05-26-2022, 12:14 PM
Episode 8



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21:58, Ariena randomly spilled the beans and revealed Arc is a skeleton. I guess it's 50-50 whether Chiome paid attention or not, but since she's a ninja, you'd think nothing escapes her ears. She already noted that Arc is missing the scent of the races she knows, so if she now puts two and two together, she would get some ideas. After all, a skeleton doesn't really produce any typical biological odours.

It's a cliche, but Arc and Goemon's muscle men greeting and further synchronisation were pretty amusing. It's for reasons like that it would be nice if all Japanese fantasy wasn't always 1 boy + multiple girls. However, any new wave isekai where it isn't just a single dude surrounded by girls are few and far between.

Buffalobiian
Fri, 05-27-2022, 01:09 AM
I found it particularly amusing that Arc is actually all armour and no muscle at all.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 05-27-2022, 02:09 AM
I found it particularly amusing that Arc is actually all armour and no muscle at all.That's...I mean...he's a skeleton.

Kraco
Fri, 05-27-2022, 02:13 AM
At least his personal aim is to stop being a skeleton, to get some muscle and skin on top of the bones.

Buffalobiian
Fri, 05-27-2022, 02:24 AM
That's...I mean...he's a skeleton.

Yes. But they went with the Muscle Bro greeting anyway. And he kept up.

Went as far as to break out all the Earth magic that he knows but never dished out until now.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 05-27-2022, 09:45 AM
WHERE DOES THE FOOD GO

DarthEnderX
Fri, 05-27-2022, 10:47 AM
In you're heart.

Kraco
Thu, 06-02-2022, 12:28 PM
Episode 9


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Considering Sekt is a cautious schemer, I'd say Cetrion would be smart if he gathered all of his profits and made himself scarce. He's probably the only person who knows Sekt is behind the murders (or a murder and an attempted one) of the two other royals. A man with such knowledge ought to be a worrisome detail in the eyes of the remaining prince. Especially after Sekt is sure he will inherit the throne. That moment might not be far away, as long as nobody knows the princess is still alive. In fact, once people learn the princess still lives, Cetrion could also become a weakness for Sekt's position. If the princess gains great fame from the negotiations with the elves, she might become a new favourite. If at that point Cetrion revealed what he knows about Sekt, the prince could see his chances to grasp the crown wither away.

shinta|hikari
Thu, 06-02-2022, 08:00 PM
I mean, didn't Cetrion know that the princess is alive and relayed that info to Sekt? Neither of them cared as long as the dumb brother took the fall.

I hope we get actually powerful people facing off against the OP protag team. I'm okay with Arc being OP because duh, but the others need to have challenges and maybe even be directly saved by Arc's OPness.

Kraco
Thu, 06-02-2022, 10:44 PM
I mean, didn't Cetrion know that the princess is alive and relayed that info to Sekt? Neither of them cared as long as the dumb brother took the fall.

Didn't he think the princess is dead, even though someone interfered enough to kill a portion of the assassin squad? Bringing someone back from death is probably a novel idea for the people of that world, and thus nobody would immediately assume it could happen.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 06-03-2022, 08:05 AM
I rewatched that scene and you are correct. Cetrion specifically used the word "ihin", which means property left behind by a dead person, so they really did think the princess is dead. I now remember they actually did kill the princess, Arc just rezzed her.

Buffalobiian
Thu, 06-09-2022, 11:02 AM
Ep 10

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So Arianne's sister married that Lord.

shinta|hikari
Thu, 06-09-2022, 01:57 PM
Arc's strength is pretty random. He clashes swords with elves, wrestles with a buff ninja, but then lifts and slams a 30 meter sandworm... These are not feats in the same magnitude.

Kraco
Thu, 06-09-2022, 02:48 PM
Ep 10

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So Arianne's sister married that Lord.

Does she have more sisters than one? The sister we saw a few eps away is a combat addict who wouldn't have been captured as a slave in the first place. Plus she looks different. Isn't this one just some random elf?

I reckon from now on Arc will drink his booze alone, or only share with Ponta.

Buffalobiian
Fri, 06-10-2022, 02:43 AM
Does she have more sisters than one? The sister we saw a few eps away is a combat addict who wouldn't have been captured as a slave in the first place. Plus she looks different. Isn't this one just some random elf?

I reckon from now on Arc will drink his booze alone, or only share with Ponta.

I assumed that the picture were were shown was not of the real couple. I have nothing to back that assumption up other than "this is anime and I'm going to think that everything is connected"

I agree that Arc's strength seems inconsistent. I assumed that he didn't even land a single hit on Ara Ara though, since he couldn't even do it with his flash step.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 06-10-2022, 07:35 AM
I assumed that he didn't even land a single hit on Ara Ara though, since he couldn't even do it with his flash step.

But they clashed wooden swords several times. Even a fraction of the strength he needed to lift a 30 meter worm would've destroyed both swords or at least launched elf mom away. I will just assume he ALWAYS holds back his strength, even when goofing off with ninja dude, which would explain why even drunkard elf was also shocked by him slamming the worm.

I mean, he didn't even seem like he was truly struggling with the worm. He just said it was fairly strong, then just decided to lift and slam it.

neflight86
Fri, 06-10-2022, 08:32 AM
Just caught up. Ninjas were pretty plain (surprised they didn't recruit ninja girl into harem), and the sandworm side arc was interesting because I kept expecting the script to flip and have the elf/human community be one big sham and them to get betrayed or set up with poison or the like. Maybe this show has conditioned me to expect the worst from 'people'. Since it didn't, Elf girl's refusal to accept elves and humans getting along hit a little harder, like a personal growth moment.

Buffalobiian
Fri, 06-10-2022, 10:19 AM
But they clashed wooden swords several times. Even a fraction of the strength he needed to lift a 30 meter worm would've destroyed both swords or at least launched elf mom away. I will just assume he ALWAYS holds back his strength, even when goofing off with ninja dude, which would explain why even drunkard elf was also shocked by him slamming the worm.

I mean, he didn't even seem like he was truly struggling with the worm. He just said it was fairly strong, then just decided to lift and slam it.

Oh you mean Ariane. Yeah, they clashed swords a few times when they first met.

Arc never hit anything during his fight against Glenys.

As for the sister, it was mentioned that she'd get married next year, while that Lord married his own elf just now. It's still possible that they crossed into a new year while adventuring, but now I'm much less sure about the sister being married to a human.

Kraco
Thu, 06-16-2022, 10:25 AM
Episode 11


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You can tell Arc is still treating this all as a game. "Normally" (nothing normal about it in RL) you'd take out the monster tamer immediately if you could (Arc certainly could), not just fight the monsters one by one and then even allowing the tamer to walk away. Just like you'd do with a summoner. However, since Arc considers the world still a game, he does things in the proper order, like most gamers would, especially during the first playthrough, lest you might miss a cutscene, a boss fight, or whatnot.

DarthEnderX
Thu, 06-16-2022, 12:49 PM
He better not let that guy find out he's a skeleton!

Buffalobiian
Fri, 06-17-2022, 10:38 AM
He better not let that guy find out he's a skeleton!

Why not?

neflight86
Fri, 06-17-2022, 11:22 AM
Presumably because "skeleton" is likely a type of monster to be tamed?

DarthEnderX
Fri, 06-17-2022, 11:43 AM
Presumably because "skeleton" is likely a type of monster to be tamed?*nod*

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Kraco
Fri, 06-17-2022, 12:12 PM
It would be interesting to watch him try.

Buffalobiian
Fri, 06-17-2022, 11:09 PM
Monster-tamer should be akin to Beast-tamer. Skeleton would fall under the Undead category. A Necromancer would be what he should be afraid of.

Assuming a true skeleton that is.

Kraco
Fri, 06-17-2022, 11:59 PM
Assuming a true skeleton that is.

It's kind of dodgy to assume that since we already know he's not an undead and a remove curse will very temporarily bring back his flesh. Plus he can eat and drink like a human. Once again, it would be interesting if a necromancer saw his visage under the helmet and then all proud of his/her skills tried to control Arc. Arc would just be like: "What's up? Did he/she do something?"

Buffalobiian
Sat, 06-18-2022, 02:57 AM
Well yeah, we know he's actually human.

Buffalobiian
Thu, 06-23-2022, 11:40 AM
Episode 12

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Ifrit just sitting like a puppy! Arc could have at least pampered it or rewarded it.
I was slightly disappointed that Arc used a summon instead of soloing the hydra, but it fits with the fact that he's an OP spellcaster at heart.

I was secretly hoping that Ifrit would wrestle the hydra and do something like Endevour's Prominence Burn. That's one of my favourite fire moves. It exudes so much power and badassery. A headlock, squeeze and nuke. Such a rewarding and visceral move.

This is some lighthearted adventuring fun. I wouldn't mind watching more.

Kraco
Thu, 06-23-2022, 01:49 PM
A skeleton angel, huh. Might be the first, or at least I don't remember seeing one before. There could have been one in some fantasy series before, of course, but I've just forgotten it. I'm sure the princess would be even more surprised than the animal ears ninja girl, considering Chiyome sees Arc as an unreasonable fighting machine, whereas for Juliana Arc is a holy being.

One of the best fire moves is like that used by Bell against the minotaur in Danmachi: Basically creating an exploding fire spell inside the target.

shinta|hikari
Thu, 06-23-2022, 02:41 PM
Good fun unambitious show with a non-arrogant OP MC, who is also at the same time not ridiculously humble.

Time to continue this story with the manga!

KrayZ33
Fri, 06-24-2022, 01:20 AM
I have to admit that the Ifrit summon ruined the whole fight for me.
When he used his sacred knight "judgement" skill I was instantly reminded of a WoW-Paladin who has a similar skill (a holy blade errupting from the ground, impaling enemies) which was very-very cool.

The Ifrit thing however came out of no where and I kinda thought he had only "basic" mage abilities, that are potent... but basic.
A fireball yes, but not a meteor shower, basically.

I also like the style of the skeleton (Arc). It really looks... "dead"... even when he is in "silly mode" and that's kinda awesome.

Overall the show was fun. But Arc using world-destroyer-abilities like Ifrit did ruin it quite a bit for me.

Kraco
Fri, 06-24-2022, 04:57 AM
He's a max level fusion class of a bunch of other classes, including magic ones (warrior, knight, monk, priest, summoner, magician, sorcerer). Who knows how the system is supposed to work, but if all those original classes were maxed out as well, he could use the top spells of a summoner, of the original game.

KrayZ33
Fri, 06-24-2022, 05:44 AM
He's a max level fusion class of a bunch of other classes, including magic ones (warrior, knight, monk, priest, summoner, magician, sorcerer). Who knows how the system is supposed to work, but if all those original classes were maxed out as well, he could use the top spells of a summoner, of the original game.

Yeah... I believe it was even mentioned that, unlike in the game, he can use *all* spells of his sub-classes, even the ones he didn't invest anything into when he was gaming.
But I thought that the classes themselves that involve spellcaster were rather basic, because he went the "holy warrior route".
But it seems like I was wrong, although I have to say it would be pretty bad game design if you have to use an advanced magican class to get to the holy warrior archtype.

Magican (basic magic)- > Priest (adds support skills)
Warrior (basic combat skills) -> Knight (adds defensive skills)

Priest + Knight unlocks -> Paladin/Holy Warrior

Like this is what I imagined.
Didn't remember/know that he also had to take Sorcerer, which in my opinion, sounds like an advanced mage type class.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 06-24-2022, 07:05 AM
The manga goes on and the art is great. Better than the anime, not that such a statement says a lot, but it's much more detailed. Just started yesterday, and it isn't even halfway of what is out there.

David75
Fri, 06-24-2022, 10:31 AM
So basically he could just have used his beast tamer abilities to steal Fumba's pets, including Hydra ?
I agree Ifrit was disapointing. Slime version was more apealing at least.

Buffalobiian
Fri, 06-24-2022, 12:20 PM
I thought he was going to figure the ring thing about, but it sounds like they need the rings for more of the plot so that'll have to wait.