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Kraco
Wed, 10-06-2021, 01:36 PM
Full name: Shin no Nakama ja Nai to Yuusha no Party o Oidasareta node, Henkyou de Slow Life Suru Koto ni Shimashita
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"Red was once a member of the Hero's party, a powerful group destined to save the world from the evil forces of Taraxon, the Raging Demon Lord. That is, until one of his comrades kicked him out. Hoping to live the easy life on the frontier, Red's new goal is to open an apothecary. However, keeping the secret of his former life may not be as simple as he thinks. Especially when the beautiful Rit, an adventurer from his past, shows up and asks to move in with him!" -Yen Press
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This is quite a standard fantasy series (not isekai), but it's standard mostly in good, not bad. It has some trope elements, like getting kicked out of his original group despite being competent and trying to his best (I guess that's the lightest variation of the "betrayed by comrades" trope). Fortunately it at least fits the destiny based world. Since the MC is seemingly not edgy or emo about it (no revenge plot), it doesn't feel like a particularly corny backstory. It's almost refreshing that since his god-given profession is not suitable for grand deeds, he doesn't fight back with full shounen mentality, but instead decides to ace a smaller dream.
Still, this is a fantasy series and the dude does have a background he's trying to hide, so it would be a miracle if he gained the perfect slow life.
This is quite a pleasant series, so I'll try to keep watching.
Ryllharu
Wed, 10-06-2021, 06:44 PM
Since the MC is seemingly not edgy or emo about it (no revenge plot), it doesn't feel like a particularly corny backstory. It's almost refreshing that since his god-given profession is not suitable for grand deeds, he doesn't fight back with full shounen mentality, but instead decides to ace a smaller dream.
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This is quite a pleasant series, so I'll try to keep watching.
My impression was that he was not very happy at all at getting kicked out of his sister's party by that asshole. He's worried about his sister a lot, and relieved at the end when the rumor goes around that she's doing well and still alive. He just accepted the logic that he's a liability to her and agreed to leave. Obviously didn't discuss it with her first because that asshole implied that she would never ask him to leave (like she wanted to, but was too polite).
I'm guessing Ruti is quite displeased at her brother leaving her side as well. She doesn't know if he was killed off after leaving her. And based on the quick clip, I would wager she wasn't too polite to want him to leave, but she legitimately enjoyed the family support, even if he wasn't as strong as he used to be relatively.
It certainly has me intrigued, as it looks like the other adventurer Rit knows exactly who he used to be.
Kraco
Thu, 10-07-2021, 02:29 AM
Yeah, he was helping her grow up and become the real hero, so it's easy to guess they are close. Just suddenly disappearing is certainly the weak point of his plan. Realistically it should bother him a lot as well, and I'd say we did see some indications of that when he was worrying about her. Even if she didn't want him to leave, he should have still left in a better understanding and agreement. The whole dishonouring the knightly order thing was a bit dubious as well. Basically it would mean that the only way for Red to leave honourably would be by dying. In a world where you receive your optimal profession at birth from the god, it's quite peculiar and ruthless to tell someone to ignore that inviolable truth just for the sake of some organisation. His job was done. That should have been enough. The rest is nothing but bolstering the egos of the members of the knightly order.
Kraco
Wed, 10-13-2021, 02:26 PM
Episode 2
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A whole episode spent on flashbacks is never good in my book, but considering how the series started, I guess it couldn't be helped. Rit appearing like an old comrade would be meaningless if she wasn't an old comrade...
I bet Ruti being like that made it easier for Red to leave:
Red: "Sorry, Ruti, but I need to go."
Ruti: -_-
Red: "Will you be okay?"
Ruti: -_-
Red: "We might not see each other for a long time."
Ruti: -_-
Red: "Alright then, farewell."
Ruti: -_-
Ryllharu
Wed, 10-13-2021, 06:22 PM
It sounds to me like Ruti is looking for a weapon to give to her brother to entice him back into her party. An equipment upgrade, since the sword he gave back when he left wasn't enough. I was wary of the assassin girl until she introduced her spider pet.
As for the rest of the episode, I agree. The flashbacks all felt like dreadful filler to pad out the time. They could have compressed all that to five minutes and it wouldn't have changed a thing. The tone of the flashbacks felt very strange too, like a 4koma at the end of a manga volume that goes back to play gags related to events of the main plot.
The best part of the episode was when Rit was essentially proposing to Gideon, they both knew it, and were both embarrassing the crap out of themselves attempting to pretend they didn't know exactly what the subtext was of the conversation.
Kraco
Thu, 10-14-2021, 02:51 AM
The best part of the episode was when Rit was essentially proposing to Gideon, they both knew it, and were both embarrassing the crap out of themselves attempting to pretend they didn't know exactly what the subtext was of the conversation.
I definitely agree. Considering the circumstances she was about as direct as possible, without appearing totally crazy. Yet being so straightforward would be embarrassing, realistically.
Kraco
Sat, 10-23-2021, 09:59 AM
Episode 3
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The aggressive romance reminds me of the explanation for the short courting process in Skyrim: In a violent, dangerous world, who can afford to spend years on it? Other than that, it's simply refreshing when there's not as dense as tungsten male MC and no harem either.
For a character filling that particular role, Ares is surprisingly incompetent. He's arrogant and subtly nefarious, but it's hard to think he would be anywhere near equal to Ruti in power, so it's difficult to consider him a second last boss next to the demon king. Although I've no idea how big of a role the demon king will even end up playing in the story. This isn't about Ruti and her fight, after all, but about Red and Rit.
neflight86
Wed, 10-27-2021, 01:27 PM
Ah, the bureaucracy of approving accidental narcotics. It always amuses me how certain anime will, as if going on a tangent, decide that this is where the worldbuilding should be fleshed out. Nothing wrong with it, but it is starkly random for such a cookie-cutter high fantasy backdrop and made me pay more attention to how it may be eventually returned to as a plot point.
Good to know that other members of the Hero party are aware of Red's contribution, and the sage isn't cutting it as a logistical replacement.
I was wary of the assassin girl until she introduced her spider pet.
How quickly we are swayed by moe...
This courtship is awfully forward, and both the shop keep and her calling him a wimp for shying away from the double bed was pretty amusing. It was also good to know that he is a bonafide cheapskate.
it's simply refreshing when there's not as dense as tungsten male MC and no harem either.
We're not out of the woods, yet. There's still plenty of opportunities for a harem to form, I'm afraid.
Kraco
Wed, 10-27-2021, 03:25 PM
Episode 4
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For a Finn, a sauna-centric episode was nice, but it bothered me immensely the dudes were sitting on the footrest like little children, not on the actual bench, which you could see higher, right behind their backs. It's kind of embarrassing to make the episode mostly about saunas, yet then have such an elementary blunder in. But I guess it can happen when the director has never been to a sauna. In another country it would be enough if anyone at the studio had used a sauna before, but I guess in Japan an animator or another random employee trying to tell the director there's a factual mistake in the episode draft would be unimaginable.
I suppose Red hiding his actual battle power is wise in many ways. It draws less attention to him, making hiding his real indentity easier, including preventing his fame from spreading. It also ensures he can keep running the apothecary shop in peace, without people running to him, begging his assistance for various quests. Similarly the local adventurers' guild won't try to tell him to quit the store and work for them. A perhaps more rare benefit is being able to pull off stunts in secret, without people suspecting it was he who did it. A disadvantage is folks looking down on him, but it's a relatively peaceful town.
Ryllharu
Thu, 10-28-2021, 07:24 PM
It also makes him much harder to track down. He's a useless D-rank adventurer who has all but given up questing. In fact, shacking up with Rit (the obvious one to track down in an attempt to find Gideon, at least for information if nothing else) makes him much more likely to be found. Most outsiders wouldn't think of it and make the connection, but his former party certainly will remember the princess who fancied him.
Rit's request for mead was pretty obvious. Mead is where the term honeymoon originated in the first place.
Kraco
Fri, 10-29-2021, 02:13 AM
In fact, shacking up with Rit (the obvious one to track down in an attempt to find Gideon, at least for information if nothing else) makes him much more likely to be found.
Totally worth the risk, though.
neflight86
Fri, 10-29-2021, 02:04 PM
Didn't notice the sauna thing, as I've never been, so it was a non-issue for me. But the three stooges taking turns taking the fall was amusing. Very 'healing' episode, indeed.
Kraco
Wed, 11-03-2021, 04:25 PM
Episode 5
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That was a pretty good way of saying: "Don't touch me."
Ryllharu
Thu, 11-04-2021, 04:34 AM
"I learned my lesson." from the elf.
I felt that one pretty hard. Nicely done bit of minimalist drama by implication.
Kraco
Wed, 11-10-2021, 02:17 PM
Episode 6
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The Hero's blessing really sucks. It basically turns the person into a Terminator: A single, obsessive purpose and more or less no other feelings, no desires, no happiness, no sadness. The hero is nigh unstoppable, but it hardly benefits the hero themselves at all. It seems like the lesser the blessing, the more free a person is. There are good and bad sides to everything.
If you throw in weird drugs, though, all bets are off.
The romance plot is definitely one of the strengths of this series, compared to many of the isekai/fantasy series out there.
Ryllharu
Wed, 11-10-2021, 04:22 PM
Ruti says unnecessary emotions she doesn't need to survive are eliminated, then immediately laments that her path leads her away from her brother. Sounds like someone is lying to themselves...
Red's blessing is Guide, so he was the perfect intermediate level trainer and mentor for his sister and the others. But he certainly isn't trapped by it, since he's basically just applying a handful of the skills associated with it to be very proficient at something else.
I think that Ruti and her companions are putting her into that self-imposed prison by reinforcing all the aspects of her Blessing. The Assassin girl doesn't seem trapped by hers, and seems to live fairly carefree. Ares may have screwed up by inviting her, because to me it looks like Ruti might finally have her actual first friend. Ruti said she doesn't need to sleep, not that she can't if she does want to. The Assassin girl is asking some questions I would assume no one else ever has.
The romance stuff is pretty good here. Rit deliberately checking to see Red was looking before showing off her décolletage while changing instead of the trope of asking him to turn around. Incredible.
Kraco
Wed, 11-10-2021, 04:36 PM
Social skills aren't unnecessary for the hero, though, so feelings (of affection) toward other people would remain to some extent. A hero still needs to operate with a team. As a side effect she would miss her big bro. Also, if she felt nothing about other people, she would be a total loose cannon who might kill any random person who seemed to get in her way. That's not suitable behavior for a hero.
If you think about assassins, they ought to be near the epitome of needing to be able to work alone, relying only on themselves. Thus it would make sense her blessing would make her more independent also emotionally.
Ryllharu
Wed, 11-24-2021, 12:25 PM
Episode 08
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The intro felt like I missed an episode, jumping from the conspiracy to, "we finally got a double bed and are prepared to fuck." Only to jump back to the conspiracy after the OP. It was very weird storyboarding.
But overall, the series is getting far more interesting than the premise would have you believe...with the demons apparently having their own traitor faction who has embedded themselves within the Church itself if I'm reading that dialogue correctly. Quite the contrast to other "quiet life of the adventurer" type series where they truly are slice of life with absolutely no stakes involved. I'm quite pleased with this one.
Even Al ended up with a big titty onee-san party leader. I was kind of hoping for a revelation that Ademi could still become a guard like he wanted, but needed to learn how to adapt his Bar Brawler blessing to beating up drunkards, thugs, and the occasional monster invading the town square.
Also, it feels like Rit's boobs grow bigger by the episode? Must be love.
Kraco
Wed, 11-24-2021, 04:59 PM
But overall, the series is getting far more interesting than the premise would have you believe...with the demons apparently having their own traitor faction who has embedded themselves within the Church itself if I'm reading that dialogue correctly.
It could be that or it could be the rulers trying to limit the amount of powerful people.
Also, it feels like Rit's boobs grow bigger by the episode? Must be love.
She's getting ready to feed the many children.
Kraco
Wed, 12-01-2021, 01:44 PM
Episode 9
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Somehow I didn't expect them to meet so soon, in fact not before the story ends. Since this is beyond the manga adaptation already, I had no idea. Since they met now, I wonder how Ruti's war against the demon king is going to continue. She'd obviously want big bro to accompany her once again, but Red has no intention to continue. It's not like he would have left only because Ares told him to disappear. Still, Ruti should be wondering why Red is just running a pharmacy in peace and leisure in a small town, while others are out there fighting demons.
Ryllharu
Thu, 12-02-2021, 04:50 AM
Overall, this whole episode was cute.
Ruti's true wishes getting revealed in full though they've been obvious a while, Tisse and Red sizing each other up, Tisse's inner thoughts about Ruti being revealed, Ruti scaring the crap out of everyone and being a horrible undercover hero, and Rit flirting as always.
I'm not sure that Ruti wanted him to come with her. She seemed almost ecstatic to take a drug that would reduce her blessing, since hers truly is a curse that apparently can't be channeled into any other activity. She can't even help being a hero when suppressed.
Kraco
Thu, 12-02-2021, 06:14 AM
I'm not sure that Ruti wanted him to come with her. She seemed almost ecstatic to take a drug that would reduce her blessing, since hers truly is a curse that apparently can't be channeled into any other activity. She can't even help being a hero when suppressed.
It's hard to say. Logic dictates she would want to be with him, since Red seems to be the only human who gets some feelings out of her. She desperately yearns for those emotions. So, would she want to be separated from him? I think not, but she might also realise as well that he's not anymore up to the task of facing boss demons, so her wisdom could be telling her to leave him be.
Ryllharu
Thu, 12-02-2021, 07:17 AM
I assume that the outcome will be that Ruti realizes her brother can be (temporarily) replaced as her favorite emotional support with Tisse, her first true friend in life.
Her entire party aside from Gideon are afraid of her, but Tisse at least is willing to help Ruti on a personal level while hiding her cold sweat. Hah.
Kraco
Fri, 12-10-2021, 12:02 PM
Episode 10
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The Hero's blessing really is no blessing at all. It's nothing but a curse. Even if she saved the world, it wouldn't matter to her personally at all. She couldn't enjoy it a single bit. Logic should dictate she would have no motivation to save the world either, but instead the need to save people is pretty much her only remaining genuine emotion, and thus all the stronger.
It's not so strange to see fantasy worlds where people are born with a certain fixed ability, which more or less dictates the single thing where they can excel in, but this takes it one unfortunate step further by making that fixed ability also affect the people's personalities to a high degree, with the stronger abilities being more affected. It looks like Assassin isn't an extremely strong profession because Tisse isn't overly crooked (murderous), but maybe her fearfulness is a sign of it.
Nevertheless, I'm really glad that bath scene happened. At least there are a couple of people more now who can understand Ruti a bit better. I have no idea what's going to happen now with Rit heavily sympathising with Ruti, but we will see.
Kraco
Thu, 12-16-2021, 10:44 AM
Episode 11
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I wonder if the Sage blessing actually drives Ares to want to accompany the hero, no matter what. So, just like Ruti is forced, by her Hero blessing, to look for the demon king, Ares is forced to try to aid the hero. He seems pretty bereft of wits already, as if he was a crack addict who hasn't seen as much as a glimpse of a dose for weeks.
Other than that, it's nice that Red and Ruti now know what the other one is thinking. Seeing how Ruti has lost pretty much everything, it's better she doesn't need to hide things from Red.
Ryllharu
Thu, 12-16-2021, 07:45 PM
But the true victim in all this is the double bed.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 12-16-2021, 09:21 PM
I've never agreed with Ryll as completely as now.
Kraco
Fri, 12-17-2021, 01:27 AM
But the true victim in all this is the double bed.
Indeed. At least Red and Lit can guess who did it, after the encounter with Ares, especially witnessing how deranged Ares was. Too bad Red and Ruti don't yet know what happened at the pharmacy/house. They could have claimed compensation from Ares, had they known. Maybe Ruti feels responsible and will pay for it. She ought to have plenty of money, being the hero (unless this is one of those destitute heroes stories, which the Japanese love). Or maybe they will meet Ares later and it will all be solved.
KrayZ33
Fri, 12-17-2021, 02:02 AM
I started watching this and this show is fast.
I kinda like it, but I kinda also feel like some things could use a proper build up.
Not that I expected a whole lot, I pretty much only watched it for the romance anyway, which I found to be rather cute and suprisingly well done after the inital teenager-blushing
I'm only at episode 8 right now but when they were going to bed together I thought "NO WAY?!" but the kid had to ruin it (I don't know why he was even there, wasn't that after the whole incident. I don't even know anymore because the show is zooming around like that.
neflight86
Tue, 12-28-2021, 04:00 PM
So the overarching theme here appears to be "does/should your talent/blessing define you?"
Ruti and Ares are the negative examples of this, being unwilling (or unknowing) slaves of their expected roles, while Red and Rit took the self gratification route and appears happier for it.
I'm afraid I'd fall more on the 'bad' side of this debate, essentially calling Red selfish and negligent to not return to the party trying to save the world now that he knows the gaping hole he left, just so he can keep playing house in the boondocks. This is young adult fiction, so I certainly expect the morality to be framed as it was, but it is sad, when I take a step back, to imagine such power/responsibility being in the hands of practical children. Not like this is the first time anime has given the big middle finger to societal expectations, but the attitude in this series towards it feels frivolous considering what's supposedly at stake.
Ryllharu
Tue, 12-28-2021, 04:22 PM
That was the whole argument Rit was having with Theodora though.
Who is Theodora to demand that Ruti be her savior? Theodora's only answer was her own interpretation of God's will, which Rit then also denied had any merit. Theodora and the other party members are all strong. They could all form their own hero parties and defeat the demon lords.
But Theodora and Ares demand that Ruti do it for them. Ares because he is compelled to bask in Ruti's glorious victories and satisfy himself that she won because of his support (when she's proven time and time again that she doesn't need him at all). What Ruti did want is emotional support, which Tisse provided better than any of the companions did so far, and Gideon was the only approval she ever wanted. Theodora wants the holy victory, but Rit pointed out that she was too scared to do it herself.
Theodora was belittling everyone she's ever come across, including herself, by believing that only a person with the Hero's Blessing can ever actually be the hero.
I'm very confused on where the Demons stand in all this. They seem to philosophically agree with Rit, but also want to ensure that Ruti's blessing overwhelms her. Maybe there's something we haven't been told, that the demons already know (evidence by his comments about her weapons and that these better copies will force her to become more controlled by the blessing). My only guess is that the Hero's Blessing will result in the holder to also become the demon lord once they kill the current one? Or something like that.
neflight86
Wed, 12-29-2021, 09:20 AM
That was the whole argument Rit was having with Theodora though.
Who is Theodora to demand that Ruti be her savior? Theodora's only answer was her own interpretation of God's will, which Rit then also denied had any merit. Theodora and the other party members are all strong. They could all form their own hero parties and defeat the demon lords.
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Theodora was belittling everyone she's ever come across, including herself, by believing that only a person with the Hero's Blessing can ever actually be the hero.
I see. To clarify my position, I believe what I said under the assumption that both only the hero blessing can be the hero, and that only the hero can save the world. Those two things also require that the will/plan of their god is trustworthy and true, which I glossed over, may not be the case. If not, perhaps there is some wiggle room, but if so, the stakes are too high for someone's individual whims to have much weight. Assuming humanity is at stake, the decision to 'want to be the hero' is (or should be) bigger than Ruti if she has any perspective beyond 'I want to be with my onii-chan'. Its unfortunate, but into each life a little rain must fall. Actually, Red could alleviate this somewhat by re-joining the hero party, but no- his new waifu wants to be lovey-dovey, so he'll stay here, and Rit won't ask him to give of himself for anyone but her. It's a cycle of selfishness that leaves a few people self-satisfied at the expense of so many more. Again, this is assuming that without the hero, disaster will befall the remaining sentient life in this world. I'm unsympathetic, but also glad I don't live in a fantasy world with a demon lord rampaging. Maybe the depiction of the hero party itself and its objective are too vague for me to get a grasp on what is actually happening. As you mentioned, the demons themselves aren't all unreasonable, so maybe the demon lord could coexist; I dunno.
Kraco
Wed, 12-29-2021, 12:19 PM
Episode 13
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Considering what Zoltan is like, it seems to me the situation isn't so bad that Ruti absolutely can't make her own decisions. People in Zoltan are living relatively leisurely lives, so if they can afford to do that, why can't Ruti or Red, after everything they have already gone through? Compared to most, they have done their part. The only thing speaking against that is the whole Blessing thing, but if that's the decisive factor, then there would be no fighting it. Since folks can and do fight against that urge, some more easily, some with greater difficylty, then it's also okay. Things would be different if the whole world looked like a battlefield and not a single person would live a life not touched by the (demon) war, like in much of the WW2 Europe. That's not the case by far.
How the demons are connected to it all is quite interesting. Maybe the god dealing out the blessings is an artificial god, with its origin connected to the ancient civilization. The demons could share the same roots, in some way. Possibly a few demons still remember and would like to return things to how they used to be.
neflight86
Thu, 12-30-2021, 01:25 PM
It seems as you say, which means that either the demon lord isn't that big a deal, or he/she is, and zoltan is complacent and contributing to the downfall of the world. We haven't seen much of the outside world other than the battlefields the hero party was on in the flashbacks (and present day), so I could really use a more concrete explanation of exactly how important that conflict is, at the end of the day. It has been downplayed so much over these last few episodes that I'm not sure if that was the author's intent.
Ruti got another super rare blessing to suppress the negative aspects of her hero's blessing. I've should clean the floor before watching so my eyes don't get dirty rolling across it... Okay, problem solved.
Lewd scene was awkward, crude, and unnecessary, but I'm sure someone appreciates it.
I do like that the story was effectively closed off aside from the small post credits scene that teased a possible continuation.
Kraco
Thu, 12-30-2021, 02:19 PM
I've should clean the floor before watching so my eyes don't get dirty rolling across it... Okay, problem solved.
What got my eyes rolling was how Ares defeated Tisse. Tisse would have had all the time in the world to slay Ares after Ares attacked them, he even had his back turned to Tisse for a while. But no, the mighty level 1 assassin was just standing there before Ares bothered to turn around and one-shotted her. I have no idea why such a useless assassin was sent to join the hero party.
Kraco
Sun, 01-07-2024, 05:40 PM
S2 Episode 1
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Quite a relaxed and fluffy beginning for a season, just like I want this series to be. Of course the psycho new hero might eventually cause problems, I guess he wouldn't have been introduced otherwise, repeating their experiences with Ares, but who knows. In the meantime I welcome them sorting out smaller problems or even misunderstandings, such as with the knife ears.
Tisse is as weak as ever, though.
Ryllharu
Sun, 01-07-2024, 07:58 PM
Not sure I really needed a sequel to this, to the point that I failed to notice that it got one. I thought the end of last season was very conclusive.
I'm going to pass on this season of it.
neflight86
Mon, 01-08-2024, 10:30 PM
I likely will to, but after another episode or two. I had to re-read this thread to remember my disconnect with this series, and right away, the OP for this season suggests it is more about Tisse and Ruti being... fiends forever? Hardly any display or Red and fun-bags Rit, though they were in the episode plenty. New zealot hero brings nothing new, and elf companion I can't tell if I forgot or was never shown before, but I do know I don't care. Agree with Ryllharu; this needed a second season like tapeworm needs a colonoscopy.
Ryllharu
Tue, 01-09-2024, 04:20 AM
I'm not that harsh on it. I enjoyed last season enough. I just think that narratively, it didn't need another.
shinta|hikari
Sun, 01-21-2024, 11:39 PM
Guys, come back in. It is nice.
Kraco
Mon, 01-22-2024, 03:18 AM
Episode 3
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This was mostly fluff, which I didn't mind. Unfortunately the animation director still has never experienced a sauna. It's sad the animation studios pay so awfully low wages to all the staff that they can't even afford to visit a sauna before making a sauna scene, to know how it works.
What I did mind is that this ended up being another episode that makes Tisse look as incompetent as possible. I can't understand why the series does it. She supposedly was a part of the hero party meant to fight the demon lord himself, yet she's nothing but an inexperienced weakling.
Kraco
Mon, 02-05-2024, 11:19 AM
Episode 5
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It's interesting how the new hero is exactly how one should be in that world, considering its natural laws, but that also makes him a total psycho. That being said, maybe only Tisse should stay away from him? Assassin sounds like a "wrongdoer's" blessing. The rest around Red don't really have dubious blessings, as far as I can remember. Though obviously Ruti might be the worst offender in the new hero's eyes since Ruti is rejecting the hero's blessing. I doubt he would be her opponent, though.
Kraco
Sun, 02-25-2024, 01:03 PM
Episode 8
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This is starting to become brain dead. While the new hero is interesting as a totally twisted, and thus perfect, hero from the point of view of the god of that world, the other characters aren't making too much sense anymore. Anyone can see the hero is a psycho, yet they keep expecting the best from him and worship the ground he walked on. The fairy is even worse; Van at least believes he's doing the right thing (despite being more like a villain than a hero), but the fairy is utterly evil, plain and simple. Why didn't anyone kill it during this commotion? You know, a literally little bit of collateral damage in the chaos. The fairy is probably working directly for the demon king. Yet the story got so brain dead that nobody does anything about it. This is precisely the kind of idiotic, illogical writing I hate.
neflight86
Tue, 02-27-2024, 12:10 PM
I stopped watching a few episodes ago, but sorry to hear the writing is as slipshod as I'd feared it would be, going by the first season. Is it shield hero bad, or even worse? Is the narrative completely contrived at this point?
Kraco
Tue, 02-27-2024, 05:04 PM
I stopped watching a few episodes ago, but sorry to hear the writing is as slipshod as I'd feared it would be, going by the first season. Is it shield hero bad, or even worse? Is the narrative completely contrived at this point?
Shield hero is meandering bad and lost its edge, or at least that's how I'd describe it, this is just forcefully making people act in strange ways. Though I'm sure someone would disagree with me. Maybe the fundamental problem in this story is that it was supposed to be about the slow like for Red+Lit, and then Ruti conquering her blessing - to also gain her own slow life. In this second season that was clearly supposed to continue, but with the new hero and the temple backing him, it can't anymore be about just the slow life in a small town. So, the slow life basic setting is clashing with the bigger story, which was only supposed to be background information.
This kind of conflict can work perfectly in a story precisely written for it, like for example the first Rambo movie, where a killing machine is forced to seek slow life, but the real slow life folks of the small town can't accommodate such an unknown variable. But this series obviously is no Rambo movie.
I'll still probably keep watching this (because I like the characters), but if you are several eps behind, I can't honestly say it would necessarily be worth it to catch up.
shinta|hikari
Tue, 02-27-2024, 09:11 PM
Just watched that episode, and it is quite infuriating. The psycho hero is clearly irredeemable. They should just kill him and get another hero. The fairy needs to get the Berserk treatment.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 03-20-2024, 11:36 AM
Holy Shit this got so much worse. You guys are lucky you bailed.
Kraco
Wed, 03-20-2024, 12:41 PM
I haven't watched the last couple of episodes. It's too painful, considering how much I liked the show before.
neflight86
Wed, 03-20-2024, 01:25 PM
Give us the hot goss! What happened?!
shinta|hikari
Wed, 03-20-2024, 01:29 PM
Faux-Hero lost the ability to hear his blessing.
He decides to kill Ruti because that was the last thing he heard the blessing say.
He goes on to almost murder the dood that mask girl fell for. Mask girl fights him.
Instead of just murdering this asshole, MC decides to talk to him again, after everything he has done.
MC decides the best way to do this is to fight Faux-Hero 1v1.
neflight86
Wed, 03-20-2024, 02:43 PM
Thanks, that sounds kinda really dumb. Painful when a show like that continues to take itself seriously. Reminds me of my reaction to Tokyo Revengers.
shinta|hikari
Sun, 03-24-2024, 11:50 AM
The ending wasn't too bad.
Red wiped the floor with the faux-hero, taught him some lessons, and converted him to a decent human. Fairy bitch gave Red the ring gemstone needed for the proposal. Everything works out in the end.
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