Redo of Healer: Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi

[MFauli]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzq2ksNGnA


Keare, who was bound by this common knowledge, was exploited again and again by others. One day, he noticed what lay beyond healing magic, and was convinced that a healing magician was the strongest class. However, by the time he realized that potential, he was deprived of everything. Thus, he used healing magic on the world itself to go back four years, deciding to redo everything.

This is a heroic tale of one healing magician who became the strongest by using knowledge from his past life and healing magic.

Redo of Healer (Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi)


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This seems to be one of the hyped up, controversial anime of the season, so I make a thread for it. Looking forward to see if this can live up to the hyped.

[Kraco]

One of the more edgelordish series. I really wonder how much of it will make it into the anime. The manga adaptation has pretty raunchy stuff. I expect the anime to be more tame.

[Munsu]

I'll be trying this out as well, looks like it starts airing next week.

[Munsu]

Well, first episode is out. Not sure about it yet, I like the idea behind it so will have to see the execution. I think the first episode tried to cram a lot of info in a short amount of time and suffered for it... I wonder if when the BD comes out it'll also be censored.

In all I like the main character, I'm a sucker for revenge stories. But surely looks like it'll devolve into building a harem, but crossing fingers it stays violent. Would've preferred if the princess villain wasn't so obvious about it. Would've been nice if this second go around the main character would have to struggle a bit to find her devious side in order to justify the mission he's about to undertake.

I think the Mushoku Tensei production values spoiled me quite a bit.

[MFauli]

Was an okay first episode, animation is worse than hoped. What really makes me angry: the typical sj crowd is already calling this an "alt-right nazi Trumper anime". WHY?! Is any story where a male hero was abused by others (including female characters) and then takes revenge on them (including the female characters) an "alt-right" story?! WTF If this was about a female hero who got abused and now tries to murder those that abused her, these people wouldn't complain one iota. :/

I hope this anime isn't severely altered like Shield Hero, because from what I heard, in the manga he takes some really satisfying revenge on the bitch that we saw. Dunno what exactly that means, but I can imagine it.

[Kraco]

Would've preferred if the princess villain wasn't so obvious about it. Would've been nice if this second go around the main character would have to struggle a bit to find her devious side in order to justify the mission he's about to undertake.


I'd say Feiya showing her true colours now was nothing but a sort of sideshow for the MC, a verification he accepted but didn't really need. His justification is his previous life. After everything he has gone through, he would get nowhere if his determination was still so flimsy.

[Munsu]

I'd say Feiya showing her true colours now was nothing but a sort of sideshow for the MC, a verification he accepted but didn't really need. His justification is his previous life. After everything he has gone through, he would get nowhere if his determination was still so flimsy.

Right, but he himself said "thanks for making this easier on me" or something along those lines, so say in this redo any small changes would prevent him from seeing her true colors, and only kept seeing the good and maybe caring princess... would he still act on it? And if he acted, would his conscience be as clean?

[Kraco]

Right, but he himself said "thanks for making this easier on me" or something along those lines, so say in this redo any small changes would prevent him from seeing her true colors, and only kept seeing the good and maybe caring princess... would he still act on it? And if he acted, would his conscience be as clean?

You would also say all kind of things in his shoes. He's basically alone against the whole kingdom at this point; his main enemy is the royal family, after all. He has got no one to talk to. I'm not trying to deny, per se, what you are saying, but I'd say his actions are more important than his words at the moment.

Such words are akin to, for example, a police detective keeping an eye on a location. He's 100% sure of the suspect's identity, but when he sees the suspect he expected entering the place, he may still say: "Haha, so it really was you."

[KrayZ33]

From what I know is that this show is full of sex, rape, blackmail and lies.
I'll watch it for the porn and hope they go all the way with every scene (or at least like what we had in the uncensored version).
Not sure what the difference between uncensored/censored was (I can only imagine) but I'll stick to the uncensored version.

The story is basically porn btw. Not sure who would "hype" this... it's really "bad".
The manga is not really statisfying at all. I hope this is better.

[David75]

DKB is late, tried EMBER. Some translations were missing...
Not like it matters for that show.
Art is not great, story not that exciting. Yeah there's a little bit of danger because MC is weak, so he has to plot everything carefully, but it's not like it's enough to have a good show.
Ecchi/porn is there only as fanservice... or a bit like the dope the MC experienced. Once you get used to it, you can drop such a show if it bores you.

Will keep an eye on it till all major harem girls are introduced, in every sense of the meaning I guess...

[MFauli]

Honestly, had the outrage crowd not played this one up as sooooo offensive, I wouldn't watch it

At this point I'm waiting to see if this anime punishes the bitch(es) more satisfyingly than Shield Hero did.

Art is really bad, though. That's actually what proves that it's hentai: gorgeous cover ary, crappy in-anime art. 🤷*♀️

[MFauli]

German streaming services have removed the anime out of fear of controversy.

Wow. We now really live in a world of censorship. First Twitter, Facebook and Amazon. Now this. Only what private companies allow is ok to say/watch/consume.

I'm so sick of dumb people putting rape on a pedestal. So many video games let you do gruesome, violent stuff, but rape? No. Fuck these authoritarian neopurotans ...

[neflight86]

I don't remember the manga being much more than female de-empowerment fetish harem schlock. There's an audience for that, but I'm weary of this because I don't remember there being anything of real substance besides building the edgiest collection of ecchi slaves.

[KrayZ33]

That's pretty much it, yes.

I don't mind looking at it and I sure as heck wouldn't attribute this show any political agenda because, as mentioned earlier, it's just porn.

But I can understand why companies would prefer to not air it or just avoid this show completely.
Basically for the same reason why you can't see porn on these sites. Not really something they want to identify themselves with or not the intended "service" they want to provide.

The whole "drain-healing" thing is so obviously low effort, it's the worst and most random fantasy explanation I've seen in a while.
It's like the author wanted to tell a story using the p.o.v. of a "healer"-character but couldn't come up with anything and made him a normal warlock/mage instead that also happens to end up with unlimited potential since he can always "drain heal"-XP from other classes.

It's even more shitty than that other show from 1-2 seasons ago, where this weak dude fell down a bridge and ate monster flesh to gain unequaled power.

But since I actually recognized the art-style of the LN covers before I've seen this, I knew what I was in for.
So whatever :D

[MFauli]

The topic didn't leave my mind, so I ended up writing a little article about the whole situation. If anyone's interested, here's what I wrote:

https://outrageousfacts.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/stop-putting-rape-on-a-pedestal/

[MFauli]

Episode 2:

This felt deeply cathartic. Wow.

It's a trash anime and the hero got real galaxy brains for willingly undergoing his own abuse twice, lol. But ... wow.

That this anime exists, just that, feels like a giant middlefinger against all the toxic, pro-censorship pc culture that is nurtured by Twitter and western media. It felt so satisfying to see this terrible cunt get raped - even though we didn't 'see' it, and I'm not sure wether that censoring was done by the anime makers or the crunchyroll/funimation. But it didn't matter much, because I'm not watching this to fap, but for the emotions of satisfaction.

I love this for the experience it is, and I'd hope that western media treat it as a learning experience to open up to uncomfortable topics. I don't expect that, though. And as such, I will just enjoy that this anime exists. It's an important anime for reasons beyond of itself.

[Munsu]

Yeah, didn't care for this episode... everything is nonsensical gratuitous. Which overall is fine, but this is pure extreme hentai censored. It being censored, not the nudity, but the content itself just made this a drag to watch. I mean, we spent like 2 minutes staring at a wall. That aside, the whole notion of the plot moving for her to became a petslave is just not something I care for, and by the look of it the first of a few. More importantly, that they've given this shallow MC the generic evil laugh just makes it worse. This is not the type of revenge I care to see.

Whatever, I'll surely keep watching.

I have no problem with companies removing/banning this type of content.

And MFauli, you're giving this waaaaay too much credit and importance than it deserves. It's pure drivel with a low quality plot and production. That it has controversial content for those that like to indulge in rape fantasies doesn't make it an important anime. It's simply just another hentai.

[Buffalobiian]

Bad stuff.

Whatever, I'll surely keep watching.

Lol... why?

[MFauli]

Lol... why?

You know why 🤷*♀️

[Munsu]

Lol... why?

Well, I usually finish what I begin, or at least try to... hoping it's not all porn fantasies.

[Kraco]

Yeah, this isn't trying to make any political statements or show a middle finger at the censorship proponents. This is a simply edgelord revenge fantasy. You might even say it's a coincidence women get raped; for the revenge to really hit home, the opponent needs to be a human (or at least something that once was a human). Revenge is plentiful among the various themes of fiction, has been since the birth of fiction. This is merely taking it a step higher with the edgelord stuff. Funnily enough among rape fantasy stuff this is actually tame because a justification was given for the rape. In pure rape fantasy the rape would simply happen for no higher reason (if you can call it that), like it usually happens in RL, aside from wars and terrorism, where it's used as a weapon.

I switched to watching uncensored releases (Rom & Rem). I don't like artifical looking censoring. Either cut the scene away entirely, exchange it for something else, or show it. Don't paint half of the screen black or do something else stupid.

[Munsu]

Yeah, this isn't trying to make any political statements or show a middle finger at the censorship proponents. This is a simply edgelord revenge fantasy. You might even say it's a coincidence women get raped; for the revenge to really hit home, the opponent needs to be a human (or at least something that once was a human). Revenge is plentiful among the various themes of fiction, has been since the birth of fiction. This is merely taking it a step higher with the edgelord stuff. Funnily enough among rape fantasy stuff this is actually tame because a justification was given for the rape. In pure rape fantasy the rape would simply happen for no higher reason (if you can call it that), like it usually happens in RL, aside from wars and terrorism, where it's used as a weapon.

I switched to watching uncensored releases (Rom & Rem). I don't like artifical looking censoring. Either cut the scene away entirely, exchange it for something else, or show it. Don't paint half of the screen black or do something else stupid.

Wasn't aware there was an uncensored version.

[MFauli]

Yeah, this isn't trying to make any political statements or show a middle finger at the censorship proponents. This is a simply edgelord revenge fantasy.

The show itself isn't. *That* it exists in this day and age, is.

[shinta|hikari]

Wasn't aware there was an uncensored version.

There is. The finger breaking scene was better there.

[KrayZ33]

The show itself isn't. *That* it exists in this day and age, is.

I wouldn't say so.
This is just porn. And this plot is common in hentai and stuff (much worse there actually), so I don't even see this as something "new".
It's just a matter of whether someone wants to show/stream porn (doesn't matter if it's hardcore/soft or some rape fetish) or not.

This show isn't just showing rape either. It's glorifying and justifying it. It's a joke actually and if you give it more credit than it deserves, it's not only wrong, but also disturbing and dangerous - so lets just not do that..
Rape isn't even truely a plot or a real story element here. It's basically just the goal to show it.

[MFauli]

I wouldn't say so.
This is just porn. And this plot is common in hentai and stuff (much worse there actually), so I don't even see this as something "new".
It's just a matter of whether someone wants to show/stream porn (doesn't matter if it's hardcore/soft or some rape fetish) or not.

This show isn't just showing rape either. It's glorifying and justifying it. It's a joke actually and if you give it more credit than it deserves, it's not only wrong, but also disturbing and dangerous - so lets just not do that..
Rape isn't even truely a plot or a real story element here. It's basically just the goal to show it.


So if he was killing torturing and killing her, but NOT raping, then it'd be a regular anime. But rape makes it porn?

Ok

[KrayZ33]

So if he was killing torturing and killing her, but NOT raping, then it'd be a regular anime. But rape makes it porn?

Ok

Your "argument" falls flat so hard.

He's doing all of it. Not just raping.
The raping however is clearly portrayed and used in a way to make it not as bad though.
He rapes them and then the character he rapes start to *love* him due to "mind magicks".

You know how silly this is?

He got "special powers" so he can rape others better and to make it possible in the first place

You understand how silly this is?

The anime justifies rape and torture because this has happened to him, implying "it's fine to do so because shit has happened to you, get your revenge buddy!"

You get how silly this is?

So yeah, it's porn.

If they would focus on killing for the revenge story, it would be an action thriller.
Like John Wick, or Equalizer. In these movies, MC is actually still an outlaw and perceived as such in the world they live in, and most of all, they don't *gain* anything from it - they suffer *because* of it.
In this show, he isn't. He gets rewarded for it AND the world celebrates him, not just the world the victims too actually.

On top of that, this show is actively putting the main villains as women, that's a thought worth thinking about too, just so that he can build a harem of mind-erased drones he can keep violating whenever he wants. For some reason, there is no male character in his harem. They just die.
Weird isn't it?

Well, not really, as this is mostly hetero porn. So obviously they want to show hetero sex.

[MFauli]

You understand how silly this is?

It's an anime.

There are countless anime where murder is justified by having loved ones murdered, to mention a popular mainstream one: Naruto (Itachi and Sasuke). But being raped and then dishing out rape against others is silly? wat

Special powers, revenge, satisfying scenes - none of these are any sillier than they are in other anime without rape.

You're the prime example of someone who I wrote this article for two days ago: https://outrageousfacts.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/stop-putting-rape-on-a-pedestal/

Rape isn't special. And rape doesn't make it porn. As someone who has watched his fair share of actual hentai, Redo of Healer would be pretty bad at being porn, because the sex scenes are way too short for that. The anime is hot trash, I won't say that it itself is a masterpiece or anything. But it's not porn. It shows the revenge in full detail and that is what the story has always been about: revenge

Again: If the revenge didn't include rape, but instead minutes of detailed torture and murder, you wouldn't complain. You'd call it a horror thriller or whatever. But some rape makes it porn. That's actually quite a fucked up train of thought for other reasons, lol.

I've never seen a mainstream anime dish out proper revenge against female villains in the way Redo of Healer does, so I'm glad it exists. It's what I hated about Shield Hero, when Melty got off way too easily. And you also go full-sjw and call it misogynistic. Afaik he will take revenge against the entire group that abused him, which includes men, too. He doesn't hate all women, he hates those SPECIFIC women that did crimes against him. It's ridiculous to call this misogynistic.

[Kraco]

The show itself isn't. *That* it exists in this day and age, is.

No, not really. These series are based on light novels, which often are based on web novels, basically self-publications, meaning, there's no limit to them. I reckon in Japan, with it's society constructed to be highly competitive yet uniform at the same time, there's strong demand for edgelord and revenge fantasies. After all, traditionally in Japan a bullied person isn't helped by the society, instead the bullying victim is blamed for getting bullied and told to deal with it. Bullying isn't traumatic only for the targets but also for some of the onlookers if they happen to be empathetic people or if they fear they will be the next victims. It's not hard to see how there's a continuous stream of new customers for revenge fantasies.


The anime justifies rape and torture because this has happened to him, implying "it's fine to do so because shit has happened to you, get your revenge buddy!"

You get how silly this is?

In this show, he isn't. He gets rewarded for it AND the world celebrates him, not just the world the victims too actually.

How exactly is it silly? The oldest form of justice in the world was revenge, either by the victim or by their relatives. In fact it's still so in some unfortunate parts of the world. In most of the world the revenge was simply institutionalised. However, in lots of cases it still depends on the victim, or the victim's family, to report the offense and/or sue the offender.

World celebrates him? Where exactly did you get that from? Dude's automatically a fugitive. Why did you think he waited until the king is away, prepared a double by mutating the knight, and then sneaked out, altering his own looks and name (though the alias is as stupid as in these stories normally). He's on the run. The whole kingdom is basically his enemy right now. Just like if you killed a person who had assaulted you previously, you'd be hunted by the law enforcement of your country. This dude attacked the very government of the country.

I don't know why you are calling this porn, though. Sex, so far, has been nothing but acts of violence in the story. Furthermore, you could remove those scenes, wholly or partially, and little would change. With real porn, you would have the customer calling you angrily and demanding their money back if you removed sex scenes. This is an edgelord revenge fantasy. Rape is a part of it, just like maiming and killing.

[KrayZ33]

How exactly is it silly? The oldest form of justice in the world was revenge, either by the victim or by their relatives. In fact it's still so in some unfortunate parts of the world. In most of the world the revenge was simply institutionalised. However, in lots of cases it still depends on the victim, or the victim's family, to report the offense and/or sue the offender.


how does that matter in the slightest?
Do you think John Wick is somehow an "important movie"?
Reminder: this is what that statment is referring to:

The show itself isn't. *That* it exists in this day and age, is.

No - it's just a silly form of justification.
Just like the killing spree of John Wick used a silly justification.





World celebrates him? Where exactly did you get that from? Dude's automatically a fugitive. Why did you think he waited until the king is away, prepared a double by mutating the knight, and then sneaked out, altering his own looks and name (though the alias is as stupid as in these stories normally). He's on the run. The whole kingdom is basically his enemy right now. Just like if you killed a person who had assaulted you previously, you'd be hunted by the law enforcement of your country. This dude attacked the very government of the country.


Except for the victims, am I right? When we talk about this, it doesn't really help if you (guys) only know what happens in the first 2 episodes. The Kingdom is evil. Even the demons are less evil than them. A character that is looking to make the kingdom a better place and one of the few truely innocent characters in this show, is more or less willingly going along with his party.
And everyone knows who it is going to be and it was pretty obvious in the first episode anyway.




I don't know why you are calling this porn, though. Sex, so far, has been nothing but acts of violence in the story. Furthermore, you could remove those scenes, wholly or partially, and little would change. With real porn, you would have the customer calling you angrily and demanding their money back if you removed sex scenes. This is an edgelord revenge fantasy. Rape is a part of it, just like maiming and killing.

And because sex is used for acts of violence, this can't be porn??
What is hentai to you?
This is certainly not "dark fantasy", which is what you are implying, this is just revenge porn. There is a reason why there is rape and why it's actually shown, there is also a reason why the victums "enjoy" it.
However, the reason is certainly not plot driven. As you are already saying yourself.

So if it's not shown for plot, why else but for porn?

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousRape


@Mfauli

Again: If the revenge didn't include rape, but instead minutes of detailed torture and murder, you wouldn't complain. You'd call it a horror thriller or whatever. But some rape makes it porn. That's actually quite a fucked up train of thought for other reasons, lol.

No. You don't understand this in the slightest. And it's also why your blogpost is the most cringe thing I've read in a while, because you completely fail to actually see the problem with this topic.
The rape and porn is there for the sake of porn. You still live in a world where you think rape is a rare occurence in media, when it's actually not that rare, even less so in animated form.
It has nothing to do with there being rape, it has to do with how rape is being shown here.
You talk about how rape can be used as a plot element and all that shit, when this show doesn't do jackshit to make it a relevant plot element.

Remember that one show where a guy got killed and reincarnated as his child version? And they had to find the child-killer? And the child-killer turned out to be their teacher?
That's how you portray murder not for the sake of violence, but for the sake of a proper story and plot.

This show has absolutely *none* of that. No more than your generic hentai anime porn at least.
That means it's also not worth more than your generic anime porn no. 21315
The whole "revenge" plot is basically pointless when he erases their minds and fucks them silly and they start to enjoy it.
It's so dumb and silly and when people can't see that, I'm sorry for them and the fact that they don't realize how stupid they act and behave.

You are fighting for rape as a form of "art" or "expression" or whatever (as in "this is a portrayal of a realistic horrible scenario"), when this show does give a shit about it and laughs in your face and just wants to pleasure you with porn-scenarios.

It's like I'd be saying how important the 128 deaths in John Wick 2 are when the movie and story could just have worked as well with ~10.

[MFauli]

how does that matter in the slightest?
Do you think John Wick is somehow an "important movie"?
Reminder: this is what that statment is referring to:


No - it's just a silly form of justification.
Just like the killing spree of John Wick is a silly justification.








And because sex is used for acts of violence, this can't be porn??
What is hentai to you?

Kraco, if Redo of Healer is porn for you, you're the quickest quickshot in the history of quickshots.

Sorry :P

[Ryllharu]

Himekishi ga Classmate does it better, and it isn't very good either.

[Kraco]

What is hentai to you?

In this context, it's animated porn. It has been published as porn, by porn producers, distributed and marketed by those who usually distribute porn. As far as anime goes, the voice actors are also from partially different pools between regular anime and porn anime (hentai), plus those VAs that appear in both, often use a different name in porn credits.


This is certainly not "dark fantasy", which is what you are implying, this is just revenge porn. There is a reason why there is rape and why it's actually shown, there is also a reason why the victums "enjoy" it.
However, the reason is certainly not plot driven. As you are already saying yourself.

Yeah, I'm starting to understand that any work of fiction that has one or more scenes of sufficiently explicit sex depicted is porn for you.


Kraco, if Redo of Healer is porn for you, you're the quickest quickshot in the history of quickshots.

Sorry :P

Why are you quoting KrayZ33's post, yet addressing me? Especially when I said this isn't porn.

[KrayZ33]

Yeah, I'm starting to understand that any work of fiction that has one or more scenes of sufficiently explicit sex depicted is porn for you.
.

Yeah... I'm starting to understand you completely misunderstand what I'm saying.

When a show shows sex scenes that mean literally nothing and are there for the portrayal of naked body parts alone, then they are no different from a scene in a porn movie.
You saying that this rape stuff could've been left out completely is the perfect proof that this is nothing but porn.
The story around these scenes and what he does to these girls afterwards are completely nonsensical and actually conflict with the whole idea of the revenge story too. Even more proof that it's just there for the sake of porn and/or sexual content.

It doesn't matter if it's consensual or rape. It can be porn either way, which is why I asked (and the part you quoted here) what hentai is to you. Since probably more than 50% of hentai is not consensual but blackmail and rape.

This show uses these sexual acts with his "party" to arouse the viewer. "Ohoho look how he got her good and made her his sex slave, yeaahhhh boiiii"
That's by *definition* porn, look it up on wiki or something, but I hope that's not necessary? It's not about what I think about it or how often this happens.
Since the whole idea of this show is him getting control of certain women and making them his sex slaves we can hardly depict this show as anything else. It's this shows major selling point for sure and it actively morphs it's story around it so it can be the major selling point. There is absolutely no doubt about it.
Just to mention it again: What a coincidence that the major targets of his revenge are all (or mostly) female :rolleyes:, the rest (even the male targets), he just kills in an instant, even though *everyone* raped him.

[MFauli]

@Kraco: Because I cannot read and Kray and Kraco is the same for me. Obviously!!1 :i


When a show shows sex scenes that mean literally nothing and are there for the portrayal of naked body parts alone, then they are no different from a scene in a porn movie.

Good that we can agree then that Redo is not porn, because its sex scenes "mean something". They're his revenge against the evil cunt that abused him for a long time. And because revenge is the theme of the series, it is shown in full detail. I don't know why that can be meaningless to anyone.

[KrayZ33]

If you say so

[Kraco]

Sure, you could say those scenes may be porn since they are videos of sex in a product of entertainment industry. However, it doesn't mean the whole work is porn. There are a lot of live action movies with sex scenes as a part of the character development, that is, as a part of the plot/story. It doesn't make them porn. I could bet a whole lot on Academy Award winners having some movies with sex scenes, though hopefully more tasteful than in this series. They could also be removed with not too much effect, some entirely, some by bypassing them otherwise if they are relevant to the plot later.

For biological reasons humans enjoy watching sex and beautiful/handsome members of the opposite/same gender naked, depending on the orientation of the individual viewer. That's why anime, in general, in so full of fanservice even if it doesn't most of the time make it to the intercourse level.

Sure, in this series a lot of the sex is there for the sake of attracting an audience wanting to see it, but that pretty much applies to everything. Many movies want to have a famous actor because lots of people will at least consider watching the movie because of it. This work is geared toward an audience that is attracted by sex scenes. It still doesn't make this porn, though. Porn is a category of its own. You don't just throw stuff into it because you feel like it. I'm sure you know how the shounen/shoujo/josei/seinen classifications work? It's all based on the publisher of the work. Like I said before, porn is something that was made to be porn, specifically. It won't be aired/streamed by regular services. Some might say, and indeed have said, that this is too close to porn, which is a fair and understandable statement, but calling this actual porn is factually incorrect.

[KrayZ33]

I'm not calling this show porn - as in "this show should only air on pornhub"

I'm saying this story is just porn and most of the rape scenes, where MC is involved as the culprit, are too.

So not sure why we compare this to other movies that are clearly not about MC getting his way with the ladies by mindbending and brainwashing his targets.

The fact that it isn't actual porn but has a porn plot and porn story and porn-storytelling is the actual problem and why this show was taken from a German streaming site.
If it actually were porn, it would be much less of an issue. (It would probably not air then too, but for other reasons).

[MFauli]

The fact that it isn't actual porn but has a porn plot and porn story and porn-storytelling is the actual problem and why this show was taken from a German streaming site.
If it actually were porn, it would be much less of an issue. (It would probably not air then too, but for other reasons).

Nah, that is not true. It was removed from Simulcast because the streaming service found it too controversial because of the rape. A ridiculous reason, but that's it. Not because they deemed it as porn.

[Kraco]

The fact that it isn't actual porn but has a porn plot and porn story and porn-storytelling is the actual problem and why this show was taken from a German streaming site.
If it actually were porn, it would be much less of an issue. (It would probably not air then too, but for other reasons).

I feel like we understand each other sufficiently at this point. Although for me personally this would be unsatisfactory as porn, but then again, I'm not interested in rape porn in general. With that mindset, I can just watch through the rape scenes as presentations of the violence the dude uses for revenge.

I feel like you spent too much effort in judging this series, though. This is like the very definition of garbage fantasy, so does it really matter if under different circumstances this could be released as porn and nobody would think twice about it? The one and only saving grace is that the MC isn't a total loser (loser like, always at other people's mercy, never making his own decision, with no ambition of his own, etc), now that he's living his second life. Of course this wouldn't be an edgelord series if he wasn't fighting the power all on his own, at least in the beginning.

[KrayZ33]

Nah, that is not true. It was removed from Simulcast because the streaming service found it too controversial because of the rape. A ridiculous reason, but that's it. Not because they deemed it as porn.

I didn't say they deemed it as porn. I said the opposite.
This show was to be taken more "seriously" in their eyes because it *isn't* porn.

[David75]

It feels like how Shield-Hero could have been.
Go uncensored or do not watch, but warned we did not get lesbian stuff yet (well indirecly in ep 3) ... but most of everything else.

[MFauli]

Episode 3:

Well, waiting for the uncensored version backfired, there was only male-abuse this time xD

Good episode, though. It really shows how despicable those that Keyaru punishes are. Honestly, I can't even think of a proper punishment against the heinous shit they did to him. Rape is not enough ,lol. I don't know ... cut their legs and arms off slice by slice and use heal so they dont die. that way they'll have to experience excruciating pain over and over again. At the end, sell them to some pervert who's into #amputee.

This anime is fun to watch and those who complain and are still watching are idiots.

Btw I wonder if he'll fuck the wolf girl. She didn't abuse him, so unless Keyaru goes full-villain, he shouldn't harm her. Although it seemed like she'll like him on her own account. And then there's the fact ... that this is a world where slavery is normal. This was one of those half-assed things in Shield Hero: Slaves exist, but everybody acts friendly to each other. A world that allows slavery should be less friendly, especially towards the slaves. So in that context, Keyaru wouldn't necessarily become a villain by abusing the wolf girl, he'd just do as the Romans do.

[shinta|hikari]

Btw I wonder if he'll fuck the wolf girl. She didn't abuse him, so unless Keyaru goes full-villain, he shouldn't harm her. Although it seemed like she'll like him on her own account.

Yes he will. No he won't. Yes she will.

The last part where she went red after he promised her vengeance foreshadows the diddling about to happen.

[MFauli]

Yes he will. No he won't. Yes she will.

The last part where she went red after he promised her vengeance foreshadows the diddling about to happen.

Really hope you're not spoiling here just because the anime is on the trashy side.

[shinta|hikari]

Just prediction based on everything that happened so far.

[neflight86]

Oh, my...

I forgot or didn't read this far, but the sheer abuse (and frequency of it) on display is comical at this point. How can so much bad happen to one healer? The villains don't have much depth, but maybe that'll change.

Building a harem the old-fashioned way, eh?

[MFauli]

Oh, my...

I forgot or didn't read this far, but the sheer abuse (and frequency of it) on display is comical at this point. How can so much bad happen to one healer? The villains don't have much depth, but maybe that'll change.

Building a harem the old-fashioned way, eh?

Then again, it might just be the first time that an anime depicts a world where slavery exists truthfully. Because Keyaru wasn't much more than a sex slave to them, and once that's established, everyone else just goes along with it.

Compare this to SHield Hero, where slaves also supposedly exist, but then later on some villain is vilified for ... having several slaves and abusing them. Well duh, what did anyone expect, right?

[neflight86]

Well, historically, not all slavery has been the way it is understood by the majority of contemporary society.

It has often been, in antiquity, more of a caste style arrangement where masters actually considered their slaves (lower) household members, even treating them like family and they could exercise great personal freedom. The American flavor is the one most rooted in 'racism', and that is what most people think of when they think 'slavery'.

My point is that plenty of 'softer' slavery depictions (in anime) aren't inherently wrong or disingenuous in their presentation (by chance, I would wager), as plenty of slaves throughout history have been able to live decent/fulfilling lives. I'm not defending the practice, but it was fueled by more than simply hatred and therefor did not result in a majority of slaves having their genitals stepped on after performing oral satisfaction or other routine abuse as seen here. That's why it is comical to me.

[KrayZ33]

I also think that the sheer frequency of MCs abuse (especially the moment where he went from tent 1 to tent 2 and got raped 3 times in the process) is just ridicilous and actually probably not even the best way to tell his story.

Kinda would make more sense to limit the scenes to one person - basically the scenes including his next target for revenge.
Right now, it turns into noise. The villains are boring, they are just "bad guys and sick". Would've been much better if they'd actually focus on the lesbian for 5 minutes instead of showing 5 minutes of abuse from 3 different characters.

But oooh well, I doubt the author would be capable of writing/showing anything significant in that regard in the first place. So he kept it simple.

edit: not saying I could do any/much better btw.

[MFauli]

Episode 4:

Of course, this week I watch the censored version when it would have been beneficial to wait for uncensored ;>

But I don't get it. Keyaru made her stronger, that much is a fact, right? So does he truly have some power up-semen or was the whole sex act just him bullshitting Setsuna? If it was bs, why did she get stronger?

Honestly, I don't understand why he fucked her to begin with lol. Was he just horny? If he had been slightly more patient, she probably would have begged him to fuck her from her own account. "Oh, you saved my village. You made me stronger. Please, let me stay by your side. And ... *blushes*", yada yada.

That was the first incident where I felt like watching a villain.

[shinta|hikari]

But I don't get it. Keyaru made her stronger, that much is a fact, right? So does he truly have some power up-semen or was the whole sex act just him bullshitting Setsuna? If it was bs, why did she get stronger?

It was explained in the first episode that his sperm powers up people that receive it. That's why so many people raped him.

He even complained about the men that fucked his ass even though that gave them no powerup.

[Buffalobiian]

It was explained in the first episode that his sperm powers up people that receive it. That's why so many people raped him.

He even complained about the men that fucked his ass even though that gave them no powerup.

Oh wow.. (this is news to me since I don't actually watch this show)

This made me immediately think of dairy farms... and how we're low key assaulting cows every day for their secretions :S.

[MFauli]

It was explained in the first episode that his sperm powers up people that receive it. That's why so many people raped him.

He even complained about the men that fucked his ass even though that gave them no powerup.

LOL, ok, thanks, I must have blocked that explanation from my memory. :D

Well, it makes him fucking Setsuna semi-reasonable then. Although he could have gone about it in a nicer manner.

[neflight86]

Not much more than revenge and titillations this episode. At least there is some real opposition now in that the King is sanctioning action against the healer. I guess it was only a matter of time for them to piece together that the knight captain wasn't the healer.

The target has moved away from individualistic targets to the entire country? That is more interesting indeed than all of the hate toward the cardboard cutout villains the hero party seems comprised of. Healer even entertains the idea that those that harmed him might themselves have had the opportunity to be decent people if not for the corrupting influence of this country itself. Its not much, but I'll take what I can get from this show, narratively.

[KrayZ33]

EPISODE 6:

Funnily enough, even though the animation didn't hold up. That fighting scene was more entertaining to watch than what I got out of season 2 (the one with the fox-girl) DanMachi for example.

[MFauli]

Episode 12:

An enjoyable anime.
Just a straight forward revenge story with the most beautiful nipples Ive ever seen in either anime or hentai.

I guess there wont be a second season, but since most girls got banged by Keyaru, thats not so important.

The death of Hawkeye was a bit shocking, like, one second he's talking all high and mighty, next second, he turns into a cloud of blood and flesh. ugh

[Buffalobiian]

I came across an interview with the author. Dunno if that fox costume enhanced his expressiveness.


https://youtu.be/n5sr-xdN13I

[MFauli]

..... and here I was hoping a season 2 got announced.