Kakashi's passed..

[itachi_]

You have propbably seen different photos of ninjas thrue out the anime and manga.. Have you seen that picture when kakashi is a child and he stand next to two other ninjas... who are those? and the leader in thet group? It's like the picture of Sakura, naruto, sasuke, and the leader from that pic is Kakashi..

[Rock Lee]

To tell you would be a spoiler. If you really wanna know check out the Naruto fan sites on google, theyre will be an answer there. Otherwise answer below

<span style='color:#D6DBE0'>

If its the picture im thinking of his teacher is 4th hokage. THe two with him the male is believed to be Asuma the smoking Jounin in the series. The other the female is assumed to be kakashi&#39;s dead friend he mention in episode 3 or 4 when naruto trys to steal the lunches.</span>

[Chi Chi]

The leader is the fourth. Spoilers <span style='color:#D6DBE0'>The guy is the one whose grave he always visits and the girl he meets there with the Hokage&#39;s funeral is the woman. (At least, those last two are just assumptions of me.) That means the guy could have been an Uchica.</span>

[itachi_]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chi Chi &#064; Dec 9 2003, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The leader is the fourth. Spoilers <span style='color:#D6DBE0'>The guy is the one whose grave he always visits and the girl he meets there with the Hokage&#39;s funeral is the woman. (At least, those last two are just assumptions of me.) That means the guy could have been an Uchica.</span> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

[jing]

Its not given yet, but im ASSUMING the guy with goggles, is Obito. Who died.

[somewhat]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jing @ Dec 9 2003, 03:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Its not given yet, but im ASSUMING the guy with goggles, is Obito. Who died. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That &#39;s the most common assumption/rumor, and I side with it.

[jing]

plus that anbu women who went to visit with him... i tihnk he might be the girl in the small picture... but theres one contradiction and its that kakashi says everyone important to him has been killed. so i dont think it can be the anbu girl... since she had to been important to kakashi.

[sangai]

jing your sig is to funny

[jing]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Dec 10 2003, 10:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jing &#064; Dec 9 2003, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Its not given yet, but im ASSUMING the guy with goggles, is Obito. Who died. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
So who&#39;s Obito?, i haven&#39;t heard of him, have you? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
*thank you sangai

Obito is mentioned somwhere around 130-140 chapter..

[itachi_]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jing @ Dec 9 2003, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Its not given yet, but im ASSUMING the guy with goggles, is Obito. Who died. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
So who&#39;s Obito?, i haven&#39;t heard of him, have you?

[Insomniac]

Naruto open discussion isnt bound by spoiler rules http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
Kakashi&#39;s past you mean
most people asume that Obito is one of the members of Kakashi&#39;s team and that one of them is Uchiha (to explain Kakashi&#39;s eye)

[Trip]

/me enters bad joke mode

Kakashi&#39;s passed what? passed wind? passed out?


ah&#33;&#33; you mean &#39;past&#39; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif


but seriously, i hope they do clear up his past http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

[NarutoOtaku]

Most likely... Obito is of the Uchiha Clan. But it is unknown how Kakashi got the Sharingan and also why he only got it for one of his eyes.

[Anbu Girl]

when the hell are they going to clear kakashi&#39;s past http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif ??

[Insomniac]

they might never, when Kishimoto thinks that it&#39;ll help Naruto&#39;s storyline then he might but no time soon

[Raven]

They probably never will, hence keeping the mystery of the character. I can&#39;t imagine a way it will ever be fit in.

[Anbu Girl]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn &#064; Jan 5 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> They probably never will, hence keeping the mystery of the character.* I can&#39;t imagine a way it will ever be fit in. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
If that really happens and if they keep it mystery ..then the story will be so DAMN
disgusting http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif

no no , I cant imagine that could happen http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif I&#39;m sure that they will clear his mystery past *sigh*

[itachi_]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anbu Girl @ Jan 5 2004, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn &#064; Jan 5 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> They probably never will, hence keeping the mystery of the character.* I can&#39;t imagine a way it will ever be fit in. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
If that really happens and if they keep it mystery ..then the story will be so DAMN
disgusting http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif

no no , I cant imagine that could happen http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif I&#39;m sure that they will clear his mystery past *sigh* </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think that in Naruto they explain most of the things, specially in the beginning, for example about weapons, ranks, villages, and most of the things. I think that naruto has gain a lot of popularity because of that... everything has a reason, i don&#39;t think they will leave that mysterious passed out of line..

[Anbu Girl]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Jan 5 2004, 06:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anbu Girl &#064; Jan 5 2004, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn &#064; Jan 5 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> They probably never will, hence keeping the mystery of the character.* I can&#39;t imagine a way it will ever be fit in. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
If that really happens and if they keep it mystery ..then the story will be so DAMN
disgusting http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_jumpon.gif

no no , I cant imagine that could happen http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif I&#39;m sure that they will clear his mystery past *sigh* </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think that in Naruto they explain most of the things, specially in the beginning, for example about weapons, ranks, villages, and most of the things. I think that naruto has gain a lot of popularity because of that... everything has a reason, i don&#39;t think they will leave that mysterious passed out of line.. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
yeah ^^ me too .. I hope that too =D

[Insomniac]

everything doesnt have a reason actually, they never explained why Dosu covered his face

they&#39;re yet to explain why Kabutos eyes changed back in the forest of death and its been more then a year or so since it was shown in the manga. Also they havent mentioned Obito or whether he/she was actually a nin.

They havent shown Anko again even though she was Orochimarus student and has a cursed seal herself, and they never explained why Orochimaru stopped using her.

They didnt explain exactly what clan Haku was from either http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif do you get my point? theres alot of unexplained things in Naruto

they&#39;re also yet to show the reason why Sakura has an inner self too http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

i think its the mysterious things that keep Naruto interesting, it keeps us speculating.
if Kakashi&#39;s past is explained then it&#39;ll change the way we view his character, i dont think Kishimoto is about to that unless it directly effects Naruto in some way

[Raven]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac &#064; Jan 5 2004, 09:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> some say that they&#39;re used in Orochimarus summoning which isnt completely true but i&#39;m yet to see the page where they&#39;re mentioned or shown during it. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Bah that&#39;s it, I&#39;m going to find the page right now, I remember vaguely where it is.

I&#39;ll edit this post when I find it.


*EDIT* Here it is. ('http://a.1asphost.com/kakashi/Naruto%20-%20123%20-%2013.jpg')

[Insomniac]

bah&#33; my manga chapter didnt include that page, completely jibbed http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

it has every other page but that one, ah well at least i got to get that page http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/happy.gif


well the rest of what i said still stands lol

[Raven]

LOL sure sure, excuses excuses.

j/k.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Anbu Girl]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Trip @ Jan 5 2004, 11:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> /me enters bad joke mode

Kakashi&#39;s passed what? passed wind? passed out?


ah&#33;&#33; you mean &#39;past&#39; http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_laughbounce2.gif


but seriously, i hope they do clear up his past http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
yeah.. me too&#33;&#33; LOL http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif
I thought its Kakashi passed out http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Vagabond]

Hm makes me wonder why he didn&#39;t want the 4th to be resurected. I&#39;m thinking it can&#39;t be because of his (the 4th) power and that he just didn&#39;t want to fight him. Probably has something to do with Naruto. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

[DeluxSkillz]

maybe kakashi is half uchiha(soeculation), i really think Kakashi&#39;s past will be revealed sooner or later because i have this feeling that the manga will last for another 200 chapters atleast i hope, we also need to know more about Gai&#39;s past, Kabuto&#39;s eyes (bloodline limit??) the 4th&#39;s connection to Naruto (possible father) etc Naruto is full of unexplained things this is what makes it such a good story because as the story progresses we learn more and more about the charachters so I really hope Kishimoto will give them all a past that fits in the story

[itachi_]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn @ Jan 5 2004, 10:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac &#064; Jan 5 2004, 09:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> some say that they&#39;re used in Orochimarus summoning which isnt completely true but i&#39;m yet to see the page where they&#39;re mentioned or shown during it. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Bah that&#39;s it, I&#39;m going to find the page right now, I remember vaguely where it is.

I&#39;ll edit this post when I find it.


*EDIT* Here it is. ('http://a.1asphost.com/kakashi/Naruto%20-%20123%20-%2013.jpg') </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Who are those on that picture? that&#39;s covered with something.

[Raven]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Jan 6 2004, 09:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Who are those on that picture? that&#39;s covered with something. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
It&#39;s Kin and Zaku, the two sound nins, the team mates of Dosu. Orochimaru used their bodies as sacrifices to resurrect the 1st and 2nd Hokages during his battle with the 3rd.

[Raven]

Maybe it&#39;s to do with the fact that the 4th died unnaturally through the kyuubi sealing process?

Or it might be to do with the old, old theory that Naruto is in fact the 4th in kid form, a side effect of the seal, therefore he can&#39;t resurrect him if he&#39;s still alive.

[Uberbaka]

Or he ment dosu to &quot;be the 4th&quot; which has been mentioned before.

[Vagabond]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ÜberBaka @ Jan 6 2004, 11:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Or he ment dosu to &quot;be the 4th&quot; which has been mentioned before. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Whaaa? I&#39;ve haven&#39;t been here very long so please fill me in on that.

Anyways something I never considered (and this may be obvious for some people) is that Kakashi has a scar over his eye. That eye is the sharingan eye. So I concluded that he can&#39;t be half Uchiha and his eye must have come from an operation.

So stupid.........Please shoot me http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

[itachi_]

So the whole &quot;sound-team&quot; with dosu, kin, zaku are dead.... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif .. i forgot that picture..

[Raven]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VagabondLBD @ Jan 6 2004, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ÜberBaka &#064; Jan 6 2004, 11:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Or he ment dosu to &quot;be the 4th&quot; which has been mentioned before. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Whaaa? I&#39;ve haven&#39;t been here very long so please fill me in on that. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
There&#39;s a theory that Oro might have resurrected the 4th using Dosu&#39;s body but Gaara had already killed him.

[DaRk-SeRpEnT]

so umm why does kakashi wear that face mask ani1 noe?

[Insomniac]

there is no reason for that other then that its a ninja attire

[NarutoOtaku]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Insomniac @ Jan 8 2004, 12:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yes and they say it again when he faces Itachi that hes not a part of the clan


Obito could be anyone, doesnt have to be the person that gave him his sharigan - i mean he obviously knew more then one person yeah? all of his friends died, not just one </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
True... although there is no evidence yet that Kakashi didnt get it from Obito. Our only evidence is that Obito was his closest friend. But... there is also no evidence that he did get it from Obito so the past still remains mysterious.

[Takenoko]

I thought the Third was able to counter the summoning of the Fourth?

They better make a spin-off prequal of Kakashi&#33; This better not be a one series thing and thats it, I hope it spawns a ton of &quot;Gundam-like&quot; series and isn&#39;t limited to only one.

Haku is the best&#33;

[itachi_]

Why do you have to have &quot;evidence&quot; on everything in United States... &quot;Imagination is more important then knowledge&quot; ...

[Legendary Nin]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ @ Jan 8 2004, 05:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why do you have to have &quot;evidence&quot; on everything in United States... &quot;Imagination is more important then knowledge&quot; ... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
So are you saying imagination gets you a phd.Would you allow a doctor to with more imagination than knowledge operate on you?

[Uberbaka]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Legendary Nin @ Jan 8 2004, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ &#064; Jan 8 2004, 05:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why do you have to have &quot;evidence&quot; on everything in United States... &quot;Imagination is more important then knowledge&quot; ... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
So are you saying imagination gets you a phd.Would you allow a doctor to with more imagination than knowledge operate on you? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
No, but you&#39;d make an excellent lawyer http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

[itachi_]

That&#39;s a total other aspect.. this is difference...

[Mut]

you have to have 100% fact cuz no one really gives a shit if you got nothing to back up your assumptions/ideas/theories/etc with.

[NarutoOtaku]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (itachi_ &#064; Jan 8 2004, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why do you have to have &quot;evidence&quot; on everything in United States... &quot;Imagination is more important then knowledge&quot; ... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
If you think imagination is more important... im not saying that its more important than knowledge, but if you do think imagination is more important then maybe you should try imagining Naruto instead of watching it. Its a bit difficult isnt it? Of course, you could imagine anything you want for Naruto. You could see him becoming Hokage, or defeating Sasuke, or falling in love with Hinata maybe. But the truth is... its not real. It&#39;s just your imagination telling you what you want to see. To tell you the truth, I dream about Naruto a lot and the time i dream about Naruto isnt even compared to the real thing.
And besides, evidence proves that something is right or wrong. Evidence will tell you if Kakashi really did get the Sharingan from Obito and if Obito really is of the Uchiha Clan. It could show you if Naruto really does succeed in his goal. So... why dont you think about it for a while, hmm? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif

[NarutoOtaku]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DeluxSkillz @ Jan 6 2004, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> maybe kakashi is half uchiha(soeculation), i really think Kakashi&#39;s past will be revealed sooner or later because i have this feeling that the manga will last for another 200 chapters atleast i hope, we also need to know more about Gai&#39;s past, Kabuto&#39;s eyes (bloodline limit??) the 4th&#39;s connection to Naruto (possible father) etc Naruto is full of unexplained things this is what makes it such a good story because as the story progresses we learn more and more about the charachters so I really hope Kishimoto will give them all a past that fits in the story </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Of course Kishimoto will give us a past to these characters. Havent you noticed already that they have shown the past to most of main characters... even if it wasnt much.

There is also evidence that Kakashi is not of the Uchiha clan. If i remember correctly, when Kakashi was sealing Sasuke&#39;s cursed seal with his technique Orochimaru appeared and they had a little conversation. Orochimaru also said that Kakashi had only received the Sharingan not long ago.

[Insomniac]

yes and they say it again when he faces Itachi that hes not a part of the clan


Obito could be anyone, doesnt have to be the person that gave him his sharigan - i mean he obviously knew more then one person yeah? all of his friends died, not just one

[Tofu #2]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DaRk-SeRpEnT @ Jan 6 2004, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> so umm why does kakashi wear that face mask ani1 noe? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
isnt it because his sharingan is always active and using it drains energy or something? i dont know wat im talking about... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif

[NarutoOtaku]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_naruto_X @ Jan 9 2004, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DaRk&#045;SeRpEnT &#064; Jan 6 2004, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> so umm why does kakashi wear that face mask ani1 noe? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
isnt it because his sharingan is always active and using it drains energy or something? i dont know wat im talking about... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Im assuming that he means why Kakashi covers his mouth and nose. Not the eye. Although I dont know myself, it is interesting with his mask on.

[Anbu Hatake Kakashi]

maybe they will show kakashi&#39;s past when someone attacks the village and is fimmaliar with kakashi and he tells naruto and the gang aobuthis past